Jerome Harrison (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

I just acquired Harrison in a deal tongiht and I don't know what I think of him.

I think he has an incredable line infront of him and not alot of competition right now for the job

but

I also think that Cleveland is going to be less than spectacular again this year and I don't know how actually talented I think he is.

What are others' thoughts on him............

Does anyone thing the Browns will draft a rookie early or bring in a vetern via trade (like M. Lynch)?

 

[Pack43]

Good question. Always liked Harrison. Thought his WSU film was very impressive and he looked good in limited action for the Browns. Never understood why they didn't give him more touches. I expect he'll do well if CLE sticks with him but don't trust them to not to bring in another back or have him split carries with Davis.

 

[AngryPatriot]

That's it, just don't know how they'll play it. He certainly had some good games but Cleveland is pretty bad right now. They look to be run heavy for awhile so JH might be a nice pickup with good upside depending on what you gave for him- what plays out in the offseason. He's one of those under the radar type guys with possibly good RB2 production.

 

[Donsmith753]

Lot of competition for touches, Hillis will be used as a RB and they've also got Davis. Cribbs will steal some too.

 

[Todem]

Harrison takes the reigns this training camp.....he has always produced when given the touches.....in pre-season he was IMO always the best back on that team. Last year...he proved he can play and ball in the NFL when it counts and when given the work load.

Harrison is a nice #3 RB with upside to #2 IMO. But the Browns will find a way to F*** it all up.

 

[TitansFan10]

No, I do not think Harrison has what it takes to be the man. I am sure Hillis will get carries and others too and I doubt Harrison has what it takes to be a long term solution over a whole season. Not sold at all. If you got him cheap them it's a nice gamble, but I don't like him.

 

[Todem]

No, I do not think Harrison has what it takes to be the man. I am sure Hillis will get carries and others too and I doubt Harrison has what it takes to be a long term solution over a whole season. Not sold at all. If you got him cheap them it's a nice gamble, but I don't like him.

Well there in lies the question. Most owners in deep dynasty have stashed him...or picked him up on waivers. Would I pay a lot for him? No...too much risk with that cluster F*** of a team. But he can be a nice value if you can get him cheap.

 

[Jedimaster21]

I think James Davis is being forgotten here a little bit. He has looked very good with limited touches, has the build and ability to be successful in the NFL, and kept Spiller on the bench at Clemson.

He still has a lot to prove, but I wouldn't be suprised to see him in the front of that race again at some point.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I think James Davis is being forgotten here a little bit. He has looked very good with limited touches

Yeah, those 9 carries for 15 yards looked great. Whoops, I almost forgot about the 4 receptions for 5 yards.

 

[Nagle2998]

Lot of competition for touches, Hillis will be used as a RB and they've also got Davis. Cribbs will steal some too.

Not disagreeing with you but really if this is the competition Harrison has for touches when the season starts I have to believe he will be getting a ton of touches this year

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Just a guess here but if things stay the way they are now I would guess JH receives around 13-16 carries a game.

 

[TheFanatic]

This all comes down to the 22nd and 23rd. If Cleveland doesn't take a RB on Thur or Friday of next week, the JH is the guy on a bad Cleveland team that will be behind a lot. Even if he is the guy, how much can he produce? I would say the ceiling for this guy is 17-20 range. The floor, well, the floor is really low....

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

This all comes down to the 22nd and 23rd. If Cleveland doesn't take a RB on Thur or Friday of next week, the JH is the guy on a bad Cleveland team that will be behind a lot. Even if he is the guy, how much can he produce? I would say the ceiling for this guy is 17-20 range. The floor, well, the floor is really low....

He would be running behind a very good line on a team that won their last few games with using the run almost exclusively. I'll agree that the floor is pretty low due to uncertainties but I think his ceiling is higher than that.

 

[TheFanatic]

This all comes down to the 22nd and 23rd. If Cleveland doesn't take a RB on Thur or Friday of next week, the JH is the guy on a bad Cleveland team that will be behind a lot. Even if he is the guy, how much can he produce? I would say the ceiling for this guy is 17-20 range. The floor, well, the floor is really low....

He would be running behind a very good line on a team that won their last few games with using the run almost exclusively. I'll agree that the floor is pretty low due to uncertainties but I think his ceiling is higher than that.

You may be right. I mean, I think we've learned that the only thing Delhomme is really good at is handing off!?!?! But I also see competition on the roster for carries.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

This all comes down to the 22nd and 23rd. If Cleveland doesn't take a RB on Thur or Friday of next week, the JH is the guy on a bad Cleveland team that will be behind a lot. Even if he is the guy, how much can he produce? I would say the ceiling for this guy is 17-20 range. The floor, well, the floor is really low....

He would be running behind a very good line on a team that won their last few games with using the run almost exclusively. I'll agree that the floor is pretty low due to uncertainties but I think his ceiling is higher than that.

You may be right. I mean, I think we've learned that the only thing Delhomme is really good at is handing off!?!?! But I also see competition on the roster for carries.

The competition is the hardest part to predict. The wild cards(assuming the Browns don't draft a RB) are Jennings and Davis. I'm pretty sure Hillis will get a decent amount of touches ( ala thunder and lightning albeit the welfare version) but if no one else gets many touches I could see Harrison finishing top 12.

 

[Blackjacks]

I'm not one to usually go off of last years' stats but he was #20 I believe last year and didn't really get any carries until the last 4 or 5 games.

I agree with what was said before. If he doesn't have competition FROM THE DRAFT NEXT WEEK he will be the man.

I also think his ceiling is closer to the 12-14 stage and his floor is obviously very low IF CLE DRAFTS SOMEONE.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

A few things to consider.

Only 8 RBs carried the ball 30 or more times in a game. Only 2 did it more than once (Benson and Harrison). Only 1 did it three games in a row. Harrison had 106 carries over a 3 game span. He can clearly carry a load.

Mangini doesn't tend to use a RBBC. In his last 2 years in NY, Jones got over 80% of the RB carries. Last year, when he wasn't hurt, Lewis got the majority of carries in 9 games. Harrison got the majority in 6 of the other 7. Jennings got the majority in 1 game, when Harrison was sick during the week leading up to the game. Overall, the lead RB once again got over 80% of the carries. Unless Mangini suddenly changes, there isn't any reason to expect him to go to a RBBC. Cleveland had 409 RB carries last year. Their passing game won't be any better this year. That give 320 carries to the lead RB next year. Harrison just has to hold on to the job.

ETA: In those 6 games for Harrison, he had 191 touches, or and average of 32. His low was 17. His median was 34.5. What does he have to do to convince people he can carry a load?

 

[travdogg]

I'm not one to usually go off of last years' stats but he was #20 I believe last year and didn't really get any carries until the last 4 or 5 games.I agree with what was said before. If he doesn't have competition FROM THE DRAFT NEXT WEEK he will be the man.I also think his ceiling is closer to the 12-14 stage and his floor is obviously very low IF CLE DRAFTS SOMEONE.

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.If they don't draft a guy high(and it seems like they won't) its not hard to see Harrison being a solid RB2. Probably still not a very appealing dynasty option(maybe a sell-high) but a pretty solid redraft guy.

 

[midnight_green81]

I think James Davis is being forgotten here a little bit. He has looked very good with limited touches

Yeah, those 9 carries for 15 yards looked great. Whoops, I almost forgot about the 4 receptions for 5 yards.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think James Davis is being forgotten here a little bit. He has looked very good with limited touches

Yeah, those 9 carries for 15 yards looked great. Whoops, I almost forgot about the 4 receptions for 5 yards.

rathe small sample size, but yeah I dont see how he looked 'good'Imo id pedal harrison now. its a trainwreck in clev

 

[Mikey16x]

Don't like him because the coach is Mangini. I am so glad he's no longer coaching here in New York, what a turd. He'll find a way to take something that's working and ruin it.. IMO Mangini owes Harrison a portion of next seasons salary because of his strong finish in 09... without that... Mangini is unemployed.

 

[Tanner9919]

A few things to consider. Only 8 RBs carried the ball 30 or more times in a game. Only 2 did it more than once (Benson and Harrison). Only 1 did it three games in a row. Harrison had 106 carries over a 3 game span. He can clearly carry a load.Mangini doesn't tend to use a RBBC. In his last 2 years in NY, Jones got over 80% of the RB carries. Last year, when he wasn't hurt, Lewis got the majority of carries in 9 games. Harrison got the majority in 6 of the other 7. Jennings got the majority in 1 game, when Harrison was sick during the week leading up to the game. Overall, the lead RB once again got over 80% of the carries. Unless Mangini suddenly changes, there isn't any reason to expect him to go to a RBBC. Cleveland had 409 RB carries last year. Their passing game won't be any better this year. That give 320 carries to the lead RB next year. Harrison just has to hold on to the job.ETA: In those 6 games for Harrison, he had 191 touches, or and average of 32. His low was 17. His median was 34.5. What does he have to do to convince people he can carry a load?

not a , but a GREAT one!!!!Harrison seems to be extremely undervalued right now...this guy can easily carry the rock 25+ times/gm..your point abount Mangini is perfect: he doesn't use RBBC, nor did Holmgren in Seattle or GB..they're going to stick with one guy only..Harrison will be drafted as a RB3-4, but will produce as a RB1 from opening day forward..I'd be shocked if Harrison didn't finish the season as a top 10,possibly top 5 RB.. from CBS, might be coachspeak, but I like what I'm hearing from Mangini:"Browns coach Eric Mangini said in an interview with CBSSports.com at the NFL owner's meeting in Orlando, FL that he's confident RB Jerome Harrison can be an every-down back in 2010. Harrison came on for the injured Jamal Lewis in 2009 and finished the season with 194 carries for 862 yards and five touchdowns and 34 catches for 220 yards and two touchdowns. Most of that damage came in the final three games (107 carries for 561 yards and five touchdowns), and Mangini is looking for Harrison to build on that. "I'm looking for him to continue what he did last season," Mangini said. "He made progress as a complete player. We want to see that trend continue." But Mangini also said they don't want to overwork Harrison and run him into the ground. "He handled the load well, but you don't want the guy to carry the load all the time," he said. "It's not easy to stay healthy for a full season."(Updated 03/23/2010). Mangini said the Browns would spell Harrison with Chris Jennings, James Davis and Peyton Hillis, who was acquired in the Brady Quinn trade with Denver. Still, we like Harrison as a potential Fantasy star, and he should be considered a No. 2 Fantasy option coming into the year. Plan on drafting Harrison somewhere in Round 4 and hope that Mangini leans on him a lot this season."

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Don't like him because the coach is Mangini. I am so glad he's no longer coaching here in New York, what a turd. He'll find a way to take something that's working and ruin it.. IMO Mangini owes Harrison a portion of next seasons salary because of his strong finish in 09... without that... Mangini is unemployed.

This post reminds me of how less profitable FF would be with unbiased opinions.

 

[finito]

I think James Davis is being forgotten here a little bit. He has looked very good with limited touches

Yeah, those 9 carries for 15 yards looked great. Whoops, I almost forgot about the 4 receptions for 5 yards.

rathe small sample size, but yeah I dont see how he looked 'good'Imo id pedal harrison now. its a trainwreck in clev

It won't be anymore of a trainwreck than last year, and Harrison helped win some people titles the last few games. He played great. I think he is undervalued going into this season because few believe in him. He won't get 30 carries a game often, but he's easily the best RB on the roster now IMO and proved he can be effective as the lead back.

 

[gandalas]

Have the Browns even signed him for next season yet? I thought he was a restricted free agent...if they agreed to a contract and I somehow missed it, then I apologize...

Anyway, I just don't know if his body can handle the pounding of 20-30 carries per game over a 16-game season. The last 3 games of the season? Sure. But over the long haul? I just don't know...

 

[az_prof]

I suspect that they will draft another back in the third round or so to pair up with him. He should get 15 or so carries a game and be a good RB3 or ok RB2.

 

[beto]

I've always thought Harrison has the "it" factor that the great RBs have. He can also catch the ball out of the backfield. If Cleveland doesn't take one of the top backs you have to think Harrison will put up good numbers next year.

 

[Mikey16x]

Don't like him because the coach is Mangini. I am so glad he's no longer coaching here in New York, what a turd. He'll find a way to take something that's working and ruin it.. IMO Mangini owes Harrison a portion of next seasons salary because of his strong finish in 09... without that... Mangini is unemployed.

This post reminds me of how less profitable FF would be with unbiased opinions.

Yes, I'm being biased but with good reason. Didn't Harrison record two consecutive 100+ yard games and then for no reason be placed "in the doghouse" giving James Davis and some other guy carries? I'm just saying that usually when a player has good games on a team that's ran and coached efficiently they continue the production? If you don't think that coaching plays a role in FF, you haven't been playing that long. Mangini is just one of those unpredictable coaches that do things for absolutely no reason and I like to avoid players in that situation. Why don't people target a Patriot running back? or a Denver RB in the Shanahan era? Jamal Charles was given every chance to fail with Haley and a 1% chance to succeed with his talent pulling through and Haley actually seeming pissed about it. A bad coach can be the demise of a good player. If you want the heartache next season, by all means, draft Harrison... Hell, I'll take him if I can get him late enough... but I'm not putting all my eggs in that basket.