Jerome Simpson Pleads Guilty - Up to 60 Days (1 Viewer)

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633454/jerome-simpson-cincinnati-bengals-pleads-guilty-drug-charge

Prosecutors agree he wasn't distributing - but 'probably sharing with his friends.' Does that make this a standard violation of league policy? What's the suspension look like?

60 days + probation + 200 community service. With work release doesn't look like it will prevent him from suiting up. Worth a hold now?

 

[The Hank]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633454/jerome-simpson-cincinnati-bengals-pleads-guilty-drug-chargeProsecutors agree he wasn't distributing - but 'probably sharing with his friends.' Does that make this a standard violation of league policy? What's the suspension look like? 60 days + probation + 200 community service. With work release doesn't look like it will prevent him from suiting up. Worth a hold now?

I would prefer he do 8 games, probably will be 4 though.

 

[inzanitee]

I agree it'll likely be 4.

 

[cvnpoka]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633454/jerome-simpson-cincinnati-bengals-pleads-guilty-drug-chargeProsecutors agree he wasn't distributing - but 'probably sharing with his friends.' Does that make this a standard violation of league policy? What's the suspension look like? 60 days + probation + 200 community service. With work release doesn't look like it will prevent him from suiting up. Worth a hold now?

I would prefer he do 8 games, probably will be 4 though.

why do you want him to do 8 games?

 

[squistion]

I will be conservative and guess a 2 game suspension (4 or 8 wouldn't surprise me). I thought he was of marginal value before this and was holding in one league in the event this situation might play out a little better than it did. I cut him for another player after hearing the news today.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

With the amount of pot, it's a distribution thing, so I'd say a heavier hand at 8 games.

 

[Dreamer]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

 

[Leroy Hoard]

With the amount of pot, it's a distribution thing, so I'd say a heavier hand at 8 games.

I'll go with this, with the commish maybe shortening it a couple games at the end as part of the deal.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

With the amount of pot, it's a distribution thing, so I'd say a heavier hand at 8 games.

I'll go with this, with the commish maybe shortening it a couple games at the end as part of the deal.

Agree it's a lot of pot, but prosecutors specifically say he wasn't distributing. Guessing four, but eight wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

for some reason I think this Commish sees that these guys get cut breaks that maybe many of us average Joes wouldn't and so he tries to acknowledge that a little in his suspensions and inevitible reduction of suspension after appeal....I think he takes this case pretty serious even if he wasn't "dealing"...

think he will go high and then not reduce by the normal half...

8 down to 6......

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

for some reason I think this Commish sees that these guys get cut breaks that maybe many of us average Joes wouldn't and so he tries to acknowledge that a little in his suspensions and inevitible reduction of suspension after appeal....I think he takes this case pretty serious even if he wasn't "dealing"...think he will go high and then not reduce by the normal half...8 down to 6......

According to the article Simpson didn't get a break and his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average' for the crime he plead guilty to.

 

[gandalas]

for some reason I think this Commish sees that these guys get cut breaks that maybe many of us average Joes wouldn't and so he tries to acknowledge that a little in his suspensions and inevitible reduction of suspension after appeal....I think he takes this case pretty serious even if he wasn't "dealing"...think he will go high and then not reduce by the normal half...8 down to 6......

According to the article Simpson didn't get a break and his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average' for the crime he plead guilty to.

The point is, multiple pounds for most people NOT named Jerome Simpson would be considered distribution, not personal use. That is the break right there...

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

He was able to plead down to a lesser charge......you and I would have been charged with the higher charge of possession with the intent to distribute (ie. Drug Lord). This wasn't one ounce of pot for personal use here.......pounds of marijuana = dealing. IMO marijuana isn't a big deal.....it's better than alcohol, but I just think it's interesting how very little time he's going to serve based on being a dealer.

 

[cvnpoka]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

He was able to plead down to a lesser charge......you and I would have been charged with the higher charge of possession with the intent to distribute (ie. Drug Lord). This wasn't one ounce of pot for personal use here.......pounds of marijuana = dealing. IMO marijuana isn't a big deal.....it's better than alcohol, but I just think it's interesting how very little time he's going to serve based on being a dealer.

oh pls, if the authorities found evidence he was dealing they woulda nailed him on that. id imagine if yall werent dealing, were rich, and hired a top notch lawyer the situation woulda played out similarly.

 

[pghrob]

for some reason I think this Commish sees that these guys get cut breaks that maybe many of us average Joes wouldn't and so he tries to acknowledge that a little in his suspensions and inevitible reduction of suspension after appeal....I think he takes this case pretty serious even if he wasn't "dealing"...think he will go high and then not reduce by the normal half...8 down to 6......

According to the article Simpson didn't get a break and his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average' for the crime he plead guilty to.

The point is, multiple pounds for most people NOT named Jerome Simpson would be considered distribution, not personal use. That is the break right there...

"his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average'" to me indicates that the judge was perhaps smoking the seized pounds of marijuana. I agree that the majority of defendants found to have that much pot who are not famous or with personally arranged legal representation would probably get months if not years of jail time on a felony drug conviction.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Took a minute to look up Ohio's pot laws, and it doesn't look like Simpson got a break. Dealing/intent to distribute isn't automatically linked to the amount you possess:

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/marijuana-laws-and-penalties/ohio.htm

 

[cvnpoka]

"his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average'" to me indicates that the judge was perhaps smoking the seized pounds of marijuana. I agree that the majority of defendants found to have that much pot who are not famous or with personally arranged legal representation would probably get months if not years of jail time on a felony drug conviction.

there is so much logic fail in this thread. they get longer sentences bc they are selling. not bc of the large quantities.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

"his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average'" to me indicates that the judge was perhaps smoking the seized pounds of marijuana. I agree that the majority of defendants found to have that much pot who are not famous or with personally arranged legal representation would probably get months if not years of jail time on a felony drug conviction.

there is so much logic fail in this thread. they get longer sentences bc they are selling. not bc of the large quantities.

Not really a logic problem at all. More an issue of not appreciating nuances in law that differentiate possession of substantial quantity for personal consumption versus for purposes of distribution.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

just curious...does anybody know if there were any of his "homeboys" involved in any of this and if they got any charges....you know the members of the posse that take the fall when the money train guy gets caught in some bad ####.....?

 

[cvnpoka]

"his sentence is 'probably on the high side of average'" to me indicates that the judge was perhaps smoking the seized pounds of marijuana. I agree that the majority of defendants found to have that much pot who are not famous or with personally arranged legal representation would probably get months if not years of jail time on a felony drug conviction.

there is so much logic fail in this thread. they get longer sentences bc they are selling. not bc of the large quantities.

Not really a logic problem at all. More an issue of not appreciating nuances in law that differentiate possession of substantial quantity for personal consumption versus for purposes of distribution.

ya i worded it poorly. anyway, if there is one demographic that is sure to get lenient penalties in kentucky it is young flamboyant black ppl.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

He was able to plead down to a lesser charge......you and I would have been charged with the higher charge of possession with the intent to distribute (ie. Drug Lord). This wasn't one ounce of pot for personal use here.......pounds of marijuana = dealing. IMO marijuana isn't a big deal.....it's better than alcohol, but I just think it's interesting how very little time he's going to serve based on being a dealer.

oh pls, if the authorities found evidence he was dealing they woulda nailed him on that. id imagine if yall werent dealing, were rich, and hired a top notch lawyer the situation woulda played out similarly.

Not if he gave up his supplier. And you expect me to believe 3-5 lbs is for personal use? LOL!!

 

[Dragon1952]

The penalties, depending on state and previous record, are not that drastic for distributing marijuana. A guy I know got busted with a bunch of plants in California and got nailed with 2 felonies, one for growing and one for intent to distribute (not sure of the exact wording of the laws broken)and got just 3 yrs probation and 200 hrs community service..... no jail time.

 

[metoo]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

Not true. My knucklehead brother got caught with 5lbs and only received probation.

 

[az_prof]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

He was able to plead down to a lesser charge......you and I would have been charged with the higher charge of possession with the intent to distribute (ie. Drug Lord). This wasn't one ounce of pot for personal use here.......pounds of marijuana = dealing. IMO marijuana isn't a big deal.....it's better than alcohol, but I just think it's interesting how very little time he's going to serve based on being a dealer.

Absolutely. If he were a regular guy he would be going to jail for years. I think 8 game suspension minimum. Does the league really want a guy in the club house who is supplying?

 

[cvnpoka]

Absolutely. If he were a regular guy he would be going to jail for years. I think 8 game suspension minimum. Does the league really want a guy in the club house who is supplying?

you guys keep saying this but its just not true.

 

[notdarkyet]

Took a minute to look up Ohio's pot laws, and it doesn't look like Simpson got a break. Dealing/intent to distribute isn't automatically linked to the amount you possess:http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/marijuana-laws-and-penalties/ohio.htm

His house and more importantly the charges were in KY, which has much more strict marijuana laws. http://norml.org/laws/kyI know the article says he got a strict sentence, but sure looks to me like he is lucky.

 

[Balco]

Jerome must have one good lawyer! Pounds of marijuana and he might get 60 days? LOL!! If it were you or me we'd be in prison already for years and I'm 100 percent sure our employers wouldn't just give us a small suspension. Unreal.

The article states his sentence "is probably on the high end of average".

He was able to plead down to a lesser charge......you and I would have been charged with the higher charge of possession with the intent to distribute (ie. Drug Lord). This wasn't one ounce of pot for personal use here.......pounds of marijuana = dealing. IMO marijuana isn't a big deal.....it's better than alcohol, but I just think it's interesting how very little time he's going to serve based on being a dealer.

You do realize that 75 % of cases involve defendants pleading to lesser charges, right? (and as someone who works in the criminal court system, I think my figure might be low).I laugh every time someone says, "If that was me or Joe Public, we would get 20 years!". No you wouldn't.