Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (2 Viewers)

[Ramblin Wreck]

Hey look, the fanboys are still indeed reading the thread. Should I say goodbye now, since I don't expect you guys to be around here much after tomorrow?

The title of this thread should be changed. Nobody really cares about Sandusky anymore, they just want to ##### about a dead guy.

I know you'd like the story to start and end at Sandusky, but like it or not, Paterno is permanently linked to the Sandusky story. Now that Sandusky is in prison, most of us would like to hold accountable the people who had direct knowledge of who he was but still allowed him to prey on young kids.

BS. Just Paterno, nobody cares about anyone else.

Wrong

 

[fatness]

P.S. - Thursday's going to be a great day.

I don't know why. It'll probably be either inconclusive or ugly.

 

[fatness]

Looks like Spanier wants to control what the report shows also.

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier was interviewed "at length" Friday by members of the team working on the school's internal probe of the Jerry Sandusky sex abuse scandal.

Spanier, his attorneys said in a statement, requested the interview in hopes of seeing that the Freeh report is accurate. That amounts to a late about-face for Spanier, who had rebuffed earlier requests from the Freeh Investigative Group because of Penn State's refusal to give him access to a trove of emails from 1998-2004.

 

[Joe Summer]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

 

[fatness]

Any chance for a legal block on releasing the report tomorrow?

I sincerely doubt it. On what grounds would he (or Paterno's family for that matter) block it? That they'd like editorial control of a report they've never seen, which they weren't hired to produce?

 

[ICON211]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

 

[TexanFan02]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

 

[TexanFan02]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

I don't know about that. I bet he wouldn't have been caught dead driving a Miata.

He probably wouldn't wear girlie spandex pants and ride bikes either, but that does not detract from his ultimate evil.

 

[Todd Andrews]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

Paterno helping to get multiple kids repeatedly anally raped really makes his other accomplishments pretty meaningless.

 

[Dragons]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

Paterno helping to get multiple kids repeatedly anally raped really makes his other accomplishments pretty meaningless.

These last 2 posts wouldn't exist if there were no Paterno hero worship. Still "not"?

 

[fatness]

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Current and former students and athletes aren't being punished. Penn State is being criticized. The supposed damage to all students and athletes who ever went to the school is just trotted out by PSU and Paterno defenders to deflect criticism. Hiding behind "rah rah", citing fake victims, not mentioning any of his or the administrations actions or inactions, but mentioning others' opinions of them --- the letter sounds like it was written by Paterno's son, who really isn't very good at this PR thing.

 

[TexanFan02]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

Paterno helping to get multiple kids repeatedly anally raped really makes his other accomplishments pretty meaningless.

These last 2 posts wouldn't exist if there were no Paterno hero worship. Still "not"?

I'm just highlighting the absurdity of the hyperbole in this thread. Next Todd Andrews will be saying Paterno recruited kids for Sandusky to abuse. Oh wait, he kind of already did.

 

[fatness]

I'm just highlighting the absurdity of the hyperbole in this thread. Next Fatness will be saying Paterno recruited kids for Sandusky to abuse. Oh wait, he kind of already did.

Show me that.

 

[TexanFan02]

I'm just highlighting the absurdity of the hyperbole in this thread. Next Fatness will be saying Paterno recruited kids for Sandusky to abuse. Oh wait, he kind of already did.

Show me that.

"Helped".

 

[fatness]

Joe Paterno's family has confirmed that the Penn State football coach dictated in December what was meant to be an opinion letter that was shown to a couple of former players.

link

 

[fatness]

I'm just highlighting the absurdity of the hyperbole in this thread. Next Fatness will be saying Paterno recruited kids for Sandusky to abuse. Oh wait, he kind of already did.

Show me that.

"Helped".

WTF are you talking about?

 

[TexanFan02]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Yes, the real tragedy here is if the football team is looked at in a negative light and his legacy is tarnished.

I think the point is not to punish the current/former students and athletes for his and the admin and sandusky's actions/in-action.

Shut up! Paterno is worse than Hitler! Everything he ever did was wrong!

Paterno helping to get multiple kids repeatedly anally raped really makes his other accomplishments pretty meaningless.

Get it know?

 

[fatness]

Get it know?

I get that someone else said it.Where did I say it?

 

[TexanFan02]

Get it know?

I get that someone else said it.Where did I say it?

Oops, you're totally right. Todd Andrews is the dickmitten, not you. I apologize.

 

[fatness]

You're making a mistake lumping all criticism together like that.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

It seems unlikely that this would have happened if Sandusky was a math professor or the coach of the soccer team.

 

[TexanFan02]

You're making a mistake lumping all criticism together like that.

This thread is ridiculous. I'm not even a Penn State fan. This thread is worse than the Zimmerman thread. It's worse than the Casey Anthony thread. If it was just about Sandusky, it would be 10 pages long, max. This is the worst thread in the history of FBGs.

 

[Sea Duck]

In December, Paterno wrote a letter defending PSU

For the last two months, at the request of the Attorney General's office, I have not discussed the specifics of my testimony regarding the pending cases. And while I will continue to honor that request, I do feel compelled to address comments made subsequent to November 9; specifically, I feel compelled to say, in no uncertain terms, that this is not a football scandal.

Let me say that again so I am not misunderstood: regardless of anyone's opinion of my actions or the actions of the handful of administration officials in this matter, the fact is nothing alleged is an indictment of football or evidence that the spectacular collections of accomplishments by dedicated student athletes should be in anyway tarnished.

Yet, over and over again, I have heard Penn State officials decrying the influence of football and have heard such ignorant comments like Penn State will no longer be a "football factory" and we are going to "start" focusing on integrity in athletics. These statements are simply unsupported by the five decades of evidence to the contrary -- and succeed only in unfairly besmirching both a great university and the players and alumni of the football program who have given of themselves to help make it great.

For over 40 years young men have come to Penn State with the idea that they were going to do something different -- they were coming to a place where they would be expected to compete at the highest levels of college football and challenged to get a degree. And they succeeded -- during the last 45 years NO ONE has won more games while graduating more players. The men who made that commitment and who gave of themselves to help build the national reputation of what was once a regional school deserve better than to have their hard work and sacrifice dismissed as part of a "football factory," all in the interests of expediency.

Penn State is not a football factory and it is ALREADY a great University. We have world-class researchers, degree programs, and students in every discipline. Penn Staters have been pioneers in medical advancements, engineering, and in the humanities. Our graduates have gone on to change the world -- even graduates with football lettermen sweaters.

That is why recent comments are so perplexing and damaging -- Penn Staters know we are a world class University. We can recite with pride the ranks of our academic programs and the successes of our graduates. Penn Staters (and employers) know what we are and the quality of our education. Nothing that has been alleged in any way implicates that reputation; rather, it is only the inexplicable comments of our own administration doing so.

It must stop. This is not a football scandal and should not be treated as one. It is not an academic scandal and does not in any way tarnish the hard earned and well-deserved academic reputation of Penn State. That Penn State officials would suggest otherwise is a disservice to every one of the over 500,000 living alumni.

Forget my career in terms of my accomplishments and look at the last 40 years as I do: as the aggregate achievements of hundreds of young men working to become better people as they got an education and became better football players. Look at those men and what they have done in the world since they left Penn State and assess their contributions as an aggregate -- is this a collection of jocks who did nothing but skate by at a football factory, or are these men who earned an education and built a reputation second to none as a place where academic integrity and gridiron success could thrive together?

Whatever failings that may have happened at Penn State, whatever conclusions about my or others' conduct you may wish to draw from a fair view of the allegations, it is inarguable that these actions had nothing to do with this last team or any of the hundreds of prior graduates of the "Grand Experiment."

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are . Penn State." This is a great university with one of the best academic performing football programs in major college athletics. Those are facts -- and nothing that has been alleged changes them.

Translation: "The important thing to remember is that I won a lot of football games and graduated a lot of players "

 

[ConstruxBoy]

You guys set up a road trip for FBG's to meet up and dig Joe Pa up and kill him again, then piss on his grave? Just checking.

His grave isn't worth my piss. Plus, it might diminish the effectiveness of the fire and brimstone bath he's enduring.

I think the angry tirades about Paterno have pretty much jumped the shark with this one.

I mean, how do you not laugh when reading that? Paterno bashing has turned into the Aristocrats joke, where people just keep getting stupider and stupider to try to express their indignity, just in case you didn't think they were indignant enough. The next guy will be ####ting down his throat or something. It's hilarious.

The fact that anyone can laugh at any level of disdain someone has for this man, no matter how far fetched or hyperbole riddled, is what's hilarious. Glad I could provide you humorless twats with at least one laugh. It's the least I could do after you JoPa fan boys have provided the sane people around here with countless ones.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

P.S. - Thursday's going to be a great day.

I don't know why. It'll probably be either inconclusive or ugly.

Hard for me to call anything surrounding this situation great. It's all sad. Justice is a sort of good news I guess, but I'd rather all these men had made the right call in the first place.

Nice to see we finally agree on something.

 

[belljr]

Paterno Sandusky U_?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

It seems unlikely that this would have happened if Sandusky was a math professor or the coach of the soccer team.

I'm tempting fate by responding but I actually disagree with this statement, to a degree. I was thinking about this last night. There are four aspects of Sandusky that caused most of the issue here, somewhat unrelated to football:1) He was accomplished at what he did2) in a popular/powerful organization3) he started a charity for kids and was seen with them all the time4) they were "troubled" kidsIt's true that 1 and 2 were due to PSU football, but if he was a VP at GE or something like that, it could have still happened. Issues 1 and 2 made it easy to trust him because you thought you knew everything about it and he would be successful (honest) at anything. But issues 3 and 4 were the real kickers. He did this "wonderful" thing starting a charity for "troubled" kids and was always around them and always praised for what he did for them. That made it much, much more difficult to believe that he was the monster that he truly was. I think the same thing could have happened at a big company where he had gotten a lot of good publicity and people maybe didn't believe it was true and maybe didn't want to "hurt the stock price" so they looked the other way. Anyway, it didn't happen anywhere but at Penn State. But I do think it was possible. If nothing else this incident has helped show us what to look for.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Paterno Sandusky U_?

I like that. Think of the extra merchandise they could sell, and without coping out to a black uniform like most teams.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

"Dickmitten" made me laugh.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

On a more serious note, great article here.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

It seems unlikely that this would have happened if Sandusky was a math professor or the coach of the soccer team.

I'm tempting fate by responding but I actually disagree with this statement, to a degree. I was thinking about this last night. There are four aspects of Sandusky that caused most of the issue here, somewhat unrelated to football:1) He was accomplished at what he did2) in a popular/powerful organization3) he started a charity for kids and was seen with them all the time4) they were "troubled" kidsIt's true that 1 and 2 were due to PSU football, but if he was a VP at GE or something like that, it could have still happened. Issues 1 and 2 made it easy to trust him because you thought you knew everything about it and he would be successful (honest) at anything. But issues 3 and 4 were the real kickers. He did this "wonderful" thing starting a charity for "troubled" kids and was always around them and always praised for what he did for them. That made it much, much more difficult to believe that he was the monster that he truly was. I think the same thing could have happened at a big company where he had gotten a lot of good publicity and people maybe didn't believe it was true and maybe didn't want to "hurt the stock price" so they looked the other way. Anyway, it didn't happen anywhere but at Penn State. But I do think it was possible. If nothing else this incident has helped show us what to look for.

Right, I'm talking about what you dubbed #2. Football was the most powerful institution on campus. We can't know for certain, but my impression is that all the hand wringing and inaction by the higher-ups was a result of football's special role at Penn State. If some non-football employee had been seen raping a kid in the shower, the administration would likely have taken swift action by firing him and turning him over to authorities. It would have been a no-brainer. They wouldn't have had to give consideration to stuff like alumni, and recruitment. Most importantly, they wouldn't have had to worry about pissing off Paterno, the most respected and revered person on campus, who could have probably gotten any one of them fired if he wanted to.That's why I think Paterno's letter was wrong when it said this wasn't a "football scandal."

 

[ConstruxBoy]

It seems unlikely that this would have happened if Sandusky was a math professor or the coach of the soccer team.

I'm tempting fate by responding but I actually disagree with this statement, to a degree. I was thinking about this last night. There are four aspects of Sandusky that caused most of the issue here, somewhat unrelated to football:1) He was accomplished at what he did2) in a popular/powerful organization3) he started a charity for kids and was seen with them all the time4) they were "troubled" kidsIt's true that 1 and 2 were due to PSU football, but if he was a VP at GE or something like that, it could have still happened. Issues 1 and 2 made it easy to trust him because you thought you knew everything about it and he would be successful (honest) at anything. But issues 3 and 4 were the real kickers. He did this "wonderful" thing starting a charity for "troubled" kids and was always around them and always praised for what he did for them. That made it much, much more difficult to believe that he was the monster that he truly was. I think the same thing could have happened at a big company where he had gotten a lot of good publicity and people maybe didn't believe it was true and maybe didn't want to "hurt the stock price" so they looked the other way. Anyway, it didn't happen anywhere but at Penn State. But I do think it was possible. If nothing else this incident has helped show us what to look for.

Right, I'm talking about what you dubbed #2. Football was the most powerful institution on campus. We can't know for certain, but my impression is that all the hand wringing and inaction by the higher-ups was a result of football's special role at Penn State. If some non-football employee had been seen raping a kid in the shower, the administration would likely have taken swift action by firing him and turning him over to authorities. It would have been a no-brainer. They wouldn't have had to give consideration to stuff like alumni, and recruitment. Most importantly, they wouldn't have had to worry about pissing off Paterno, the most respected and revered person on campus, who could have probably gotten any one of them fired if he wanted to.That's why I think Paterno's letter was wrong when it said this wasn't a "football scandal."

I see your point and I agree 100% that, at Penn State, that was true. I was more pointing out that it could happen within other organizations where a "BMOC" (if you'll pardon the phrase) is the monster. But certainly it would need to be someone like that within an organization, not some middle manager at GE, to continue the analogy. Regarding the "football scandal" phrase by Paterno (assuming that is really him), I see the point he's making that it wasn't a direct result of the football team, more of an indirect result of their success and power, if that makes sense. In other words, no one said "We can win more games, recruit better players and make more money if only we had a former coach molesting little boys". That would be a direct attempt to benefit the football team. This was more of a "we win games, attract recruits and make lots of money because of this football team so let's not let a pedophile screw it up". Both bad of course, but a slight difference in intent. Not sure it will matter with the NCAA or in the court of public opinion.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Hey look, the fanboys are still indeed reading the thread. Should I say goodbye now, since I don't expect you guys to be around here much after tomorrow?

FWIW, and because I know you worry about me, I don't have access to this site at work. So when I don't show up to pass out the kool-aid moments after the report is released tomorrow morning, don't worry. I'll check back in tomorrow night.

 

[TexanFan02]

P.S. - Thursday's going to be a great day.

I don't know why. It'll probably be either inconclusive or ugly.

Hard for me to call anything surrounding this situation great. It's all sad. Justice is a sort of good news I guess, but I'd rather all these men had made the right call in the first place.

Nice to see we finally agree on something.

Disagree as we might on most things in here, I'm pretty sure 100% of us are anti kiddie rape and wish less of it would have happened. While I think you're looking at Joe through rose colored glasses (and you seem to think my criticism of what he didn't do stems from some hate of Paterno over any of the other bad guys in this story) I certainly don't think you condone what Sandusky did and appreciate how you disagree with me.

I'm pretty sure nobody here approves of that. If it was a poll it'd be the most one-sided poll in FBG history. But that's not what this thread is about.

 

[fatness]

P.S. - Thursday's going to be a great day.

I don't know why. It'll probably be either inconclusive or ugly.

Hard for me to call anything surrounding this situation great. It's all sad. Justice is a sort of good news I guess, but I'd rather all these men had made the right call in the first place.

Nice to see we finally agree on something.

A lot of us agree on that point.

 

[TexanFan02]

I'm pretty sure nobody here approves of that. If it was a poll it'd be the most one-sided poll in FBG history. But that's not what this thread is about.

Most of us don't really give a rat's backside about anybody involved in this story except for the fact that they let a monster run amok. Paterno is the only one people are defending, because he's the only one who was a football coach everyone thought was an upstanding man. The folks defending him are the ones responsible for the direction this thread has taken.

I disagree. This thread is all about Paterno. Enough people hate Paterno (This is a football website) that even if no one had defended him, this thread would have gone on far too long and had way too much hyperbole.

 

[fatness]

On a more serious note, great article here.

From that article:

An interesting thing to do in the central Pennsylvania college town where I live and work is to walk around the town and campus and make a list of all the things that remind you of the recently deceased football coach. These include but are not limited to: Joegies, the sandwich shop in the student union

If that place has a "Jerry's Subs" it better change its name fast.

 

[TexanFan02]

I'm pretty sure nobody here approves of that. If it was a poll it'd be the most one-sided poll in FBG history. But that's not what this thread is about.

Most of us don't really give a rat's backside about anybody involved in this story except for the fact that they let a monster run amok. Paterno is the only one people are defending, because he's the only one who was a football coach everyone thought was an upstanding man. The folks defending him are the ones responsible for the direction this thread has taken.

I disagree. This thread is all about Paterno. Enough people hate Paterno (This is a football website) that even if no one had defended him, this thread would have gone on far too long and had way too much hyperbole.

You are welcome to disagree, but in my case you would be very wrong. I couldn't have cared any less about Paterno before this thread, and I've been far too active in it.

I respect your views, but you aren't the only one posting in this thread.

 

[fatness]

You're making a mistake lumping all criticism together like that.

This thread is ridiculous. I'm not even a Penn State fan. This thread is worse than the Zimmerman thread. It's worse than the Casey Anthony thread. If it was just about Sandusky, it would be 10 pages long, max. This is the worst thread in the history of FBGs.

When it's aggravated you to the point that you don't know who said what, maybe it's time for a break.

 

[TexanFan02]

You're making a mistake lumping all criticism together like that.

This thread is ridiculous. I'm not even a Penn State fan. This thread is worse than the Zimmerman thread. It's worse than the Casey Anthony thread. If it was just about Sandusky, it would be 10 pages long, max. This is the worst thread in the history of FBGs.

When it's aggravated you to the point that you don't know who said what, maybe it's time for a break.

The FBG multi-quote thing is confusing at best. At worst you make mistakes. Doesn't change my underlying point. That you won't acknowledge.

 

[fatness]

Your underlying point is that you want anyone criticizing Paterno to shut up. I acknowledge that.

 

[TexanFan02]

Your underlying point is that you want anyone criticizing Paterno to shut up. I acknowledge that.

Nah, go ahead and damn him to hell and piss on his grave. That's what most in this thread have done. Want to be different?

 

[Todd Andrews]

I'm just highlighting the absurdity of the hyperbole in this thread. Next Fatness will be saying Paterno recruited kids for Sandusky to abuse. Oh wait, he kind of already did.

Show me that.

"Helped".

Are you a moron? I know you are a fan of child rapist enablers, but when I say help, I dont mean that Paterno played GI Joe with the boys before driving them over to Sandusky's, although he may have well as done that. I mean he kept that scum on the street with access to Second Mile and PSU facilities. Are you an idiot or just mildly returded?

 

[belljr]

Paterno Sandusky U_?

I like that. Think of the extra merchandise they could sell, and without coping out to a black uniform like most teams.

Let's fill out the U somehow....

 

[yellowdog]

The Freeh report will be released for all the world to see at 9am tomorrow morning on their own website.http://thefreehreportonpsu.com/

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[Dragons]

The Freeh report will be released for all the world to see at 9am tomorrow morning on their own website.http://thefreehreportonpsu.com/

Chances that server isn't a pile of ash by 9:01?

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

The Freeh report will be released for all the world to see at 9am tomorrow morning on their own website.http://thefreehreportonpsu.com/

A press release is now up summarizing the report but I don't see the link to the actual report. From the press release:

Our most saddening and sobering finding is the total disregard for the safety andwelfare of Sandusky’s child victims by the most senior leaders at Penn State. The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the childrenwho Sandusky victimized. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley neverdemonstrated, through actions or words, any concern for the safety and well-being ofSandusky’s victims until after Sandusky’s arrest.In critical written correspondence that we uncovered on March 20th of this year, we see evidence of their proposed plan of action in February 2001 that included reporting allegations about Sandusky to the authorities. After Mr. Curley consulted with Mr. Paterno, however, they changed the plan and decided not to make a report to the authorities. Their failure to protect the February 9, 2001 child victim, or make attempts to identify him, created a dangerous situation for other unknown, unsuspecting young boys who were lured to the Penn State campus and football games by Sandusky and victimized repeatedly by him.Further, they exposed this child to additional harm by alerting Sandusky, who was the only one who knew the child’s identity, about what McQueary saw in the shower on the night of February 9, 2001.The stated reasons by Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley for not taking action to identify the victim and for not reporting Sandusky to the police or Child Welfare are:(1) Through counsel, Messrs. Curley and Schultz have stated that the “humane” thing to do in 2001 was to carefully and responsibly assess the best way to handle vague but troubling allegations.(2) Mr. Paterno said that “I didn’t know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was. So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn’t work out that way.”(3) Mr. Spanier told the Special Investigative Counsel that he was never told by anyone that the February 2001 incident in the shower involved the sexual abuse of a child but only “horsing around.” He further stated that he never asked what “horsing around” by Sandusky entailed.Taking into account the available witness statements and evidence, it is more reasonable to conclude that, in order to avoid the consequences of bad publicity, the most powerful leaders at Penn State University – Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley – repeatedly concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse from the authorities, the Board of Trustees, Penn State community, and the public at large. Although concern to treat the child abuser humanely was expressly stated, no suchsentiments were ever expressed by them for Sandusky’s victims.The evidence shows that these four men also knew about a 1998 criminal investigation of Sandusky relating to suspected sexual misconduct with a young boy in a Penn State football locker room shower. Again, they showed no concern about thatvictim. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno was made aware of the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, followed it closely, but failed to take any action, even though Sanduskyhad been a key member of his coaching staff for almost 30 years, and had an office juststeps away from Mr. Paterno’s. At the very least, Mr. Paterno could have alerted the entire football staff, in order to prevent Sandusky from bringing another child into the Lasch Building. Messrs. Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley also failed to alert the Board of Trustees about the 1998 investigation or take any further action against Mr. Sandusky. None of them even spoke to Sandusky about his conduct. In short, nothing was done and Sandusky was allowed to continue with impunity.Based on the evidence, the only known, intervening factor between the decision made on February 25, 2001 by Messrs. Spanier, Curley and Schulz to report the incident to the Department of Public Welfare, and then agreeing not to do so on February 27th, was Mr. Paterno’s February 26th conversation with Mr. Curley.We never had the opportunity to talk with Mr. Paterno, but he did say what he told McQueary on February 10, 2011 when McQueary reported what he saw Sandusky doing in the shower the night before: “You did what you had to do. It is my job now to figure out what we want to do.” Why would anyone have to figure out what had to be done in these circumstances? We also know that he delayed reporting Sandusky’s sexual conduct because Mr. Paterno did not “want to interfere” with people’s weekend. To his credit, Mr. Paterno stated on November 9, 2011, “With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.”Their callous and shocking disregard for child victims was underscored by the Grand Jury, which noted in its November 4, 2011 presentment that there was no “attempt to investigate, to identify Victim 2 or to protect that child or others from similar conduct, except as related to preventing its reoccurrence on University property.”None of these four men took any responsible action after February 2001 other than Mr. Curley informing the Second Mile that Mr. Sandusky had showered with a boy. Even though they all knew about the 1998 incident, the best they could muster toprotect Sandusky’s victims was to ask Sandusky not to bring his “guests” into the PennState facilities.Although we found no evidence that the Penn State Board of Trustees wasaware of the allegations regarding Sandusky in 1998 and 2001, that does not shield the Board from criticism. In this matter, the Board – despite its duties of care and oversight of the University and its Officers – failed to create an environment which held the University’s most senior leaders accountable to it. Mr. Spanier resisted the Board’s attempt to have more transparency. In fact, around the time that Mr. Sandusky, Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz were arrested, Mr. Spanier was unwilling to give the Board any more information about what was going on than what he was providing to the public.After a media report on March 31, 2011, the Board was put on notice aboutserious allegations that Sandusky was sexually assaulting children on the Penn State campus. The Board failed in its duty to make reasonable inquiry into these seriousmatters and to demand action by the President.The President, a Senior Vice President, and General Counsel did not perform their duty to make timely, thorough and forthright reports of these 1998 and 2001 allegations to the Board. This was a failure of governance for which the Board must also bear responsibility.We also found that:• The Board did not have regular reporting procedures or committee structures to ensure disclosure of major risks to the University;• Some Trustees felt their meetings were a “rubber stamp” process for Mr.Spanier’s actions;• The Board did not independently ask for more information or assess the underreporting by Spanier about the Sandusky investigation after May 2011 and thereby failed to oversee properly his executive management of the worst crisis in Penn State’s history;• The Board was over-confident in Spanier’s abilities to handle crises and was unprepared to deal with the filing of criminal charges against senior University leaders and a prominent former football coach in November, 2011; and,o the firing of Coach Paterno.From 1998–2011, Penn State’s “Tone at the Top” for transparency, compliance, police reporting and child protection was completely wrong, as shown by the inaction and concealment on the part of its most senior leaders, and followed by those at the bottom of the University’s pyramid of power. This is best reflected by the janitors’ decision not to report Sandusky’s horrific 2000 sexual assault of a young boy in the Lasch Building shower. The janitors were afraid of being fired for reporting a powerful football coach.football coach.

 

[MAC_32]

The Freeh report will be released for all the world to see at 9am tomorrow morning on their own website.http://thefreehreportonpsu.com/

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Deadspin reported this would happen last night.

 

[Dragons]

Nothing really new in the summary, basically what was leaked/suspected. I probably won't read the full 267 page report.