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**Jets at Dolphins** (-6, 45) 1:00 (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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-Looks like Breece HALL is OUT tomorrow and that would mean a big uptick for Allen tomorrow. I would say a solid RB2/Flex start
-Adams and Hill have had some better games of late, will that continue on Sunday. Sauce Gardner is Doubtful and that's about an inch away from being OUT
-Tua 3 games in a row 30+, can he extend that streak to 4 games?

GO!
 
Jets are done, and Miami is basically in playoff mode right now. With no Sauce, and just general issues across the board, I'd be surprised by a Jets win, though Miami will likely let them hang around.

Hot take, I don't think Breece Hall will be missed. In fact, I think Braelon Allen might actually be an upgrade as I've felt Hall has been pressing, and passing up 5 yards runs, trying to make a guy miss and get 20+. Now I don't think Allen will get all of Hall's workload, but I think he'll be a great flex on the 15 or so touches he gets. I think the return of Allen Lazard likely has a slightly negative affect on both Adams/Wilson, but is likely a positive for Rodgers, and the offense in general for keeping drives going.

For Miami, I'll be interested to see their gameplan, as one thing the Jets do really well is cover TEs. This feels like it should be a letdown week for Jonnu (and a week where the Dolphins attack outside with Sauce out) but we'll see how adaptable the offensive gameplan is. I do think Achane gets his in the passing game, and maybe he'll get going as a runner given Miami should lead throughout. Does really feel like an "if not now, when?" week for Tyreek in the big downfield plays department.

Dolphins-27
Jets-20
 
I have a feeling Mr. Rogers will not find a pleasant neighborhood to play in today
I have a feeling The Sea Mammals will play like Great Whites and feast on The Visitors today
I have a feeling The Fins offense will have many "chunk" plays today
I have a feeling The Fins defense will get more sacks,turnovers and stops than The Jets will get points
So...

Great Whites- 30
Gang Green- 9
 
Let’s keep our eyes on Patrick Paul Dolfans.

I like what I am seeing so far

And why are we in shotgun on 3rd and 1.
 
"Tua 3 games in a row 30+, can he extend that streak to 4 games?"

Apparently not, already got inside the RZ, TD target to Hil ends up DPi and a RB plunge into the end zone
Oh well
 
Rodgers looking spry today in the pocket. He still can sling it, what will he do next year?

Isaiah Davis looks good.

As a Miami fan, a loss today will not upset me. In the 2024 draft, another loss would've netted Jared Verse instead of Chop Robinson.
 
Pathetic on 3rd and goal or whatever, almost throw the ball behind the LOS

Miami continues to settle for FGs, Tua Investors getting the shaft today after 3 straight 30+ point games,
 
Literally every week I see the back of #5’s jersey.

What an albatross contract we have on this guy who to me looks washed.

This pass rush is non existent
 
Literally every week I see the back of #5’s jersey.

What an albatross contract we have on this guy who to me looks washed.

This pass rush is non existent
Ramsey has been ok this year by PFF metrics, but he's not a shutdown CB any more, He should be moved to safety next year.

No pass rush on most plays. We need to draft another edge player next year, since Chubb and Phillips might not be the same when they return in 2025.

Chop has done well when facing bad tackles, but even if he's good next year, he needs a complement on the other side.
 
Ramsey finally makes a play.

And SoBe the problem is he is paid like one……

Being abused today.
 
Phins lose today vs a worthless 3-9 Jets team at home in December...what else do you need to see as a Phins fan?
We've had some absentee fans I'll say that have opted to just ignore basically the entire season following Tua's last consussion, I wonder what the real support is for Grier and McDaniel at this point since we were reading fans in the summer saying McDaniel was the coach for the next 10-20 years, how can you possibly say that or see that when you watch this team?

Is it all a joke until they can get to the off season and try to get a Sam Darnold to come in and compete?
Tua is kinda completing a lot of passes but they are all short and Miami at one time was able to score long TDs, not any more

And Miami is paying an arm and a leg to Tua-Hill-Waddle and it's not working
What would really change next season?
 
Ramsey finally makes a play.

And SoBe the problem is he is paid like one……

Being abused today.
I think we draft mostly defense next year. Edge, CB, DL. Ramsey goes to safety.

And hope that Patrick Paul is good, and Tua and the WRs stay healthy. Our 3rd WR could be Taj Washington, Malik, or a cheap FA.
 
Phins lose today vs a worthless 3-9 Jets team at home in December...what else do you need to see as a Phins fan?
We've had some absentee fans I'll say that have opted to just ignore basically the entire season following Tua's last consussion, I wonder what the real support is for Grier and McDaniel at this point since we were reading fans in the summer saying McDaniel was the coach for the next 10-20 years, how can you possibly say that or see that when you watch this team?

Is it all a joke until they can get to the off season and try to get a Sam Darnold to come in and compete?
Tua is kinda completing a lot of passes but they are all short and Miami at one time was able to score long TDs, not any more

And Miami is paying an arm and a leg to Tua-Hill-Waddle and it's not working
What would really change next season?
Mac Jones is auditioning for a chance at a starting job. We can't afford Sam Darnold. We need to load up on defense.
 
Phins lose today vs a worthless 3-9 Jets team at home in December...what else do you need to see as a Phins fan?
We've had some absentee fans I'll say that have opted to just ignore basically the entire season following Tua's last consussion, I wonder what the real support is for Grier and McDaniel at this point since we were reading fans in the summer saying McDaniel was the coach for the next 10-20 years, how can you possibly say that or see that when you watch this team?

Is it all a joke until they can get to the off season and try to get a Sam Darnold to come in and compete?
Tua is kinda completing a lot of passes but they are all short and Miami at one time was able to score long TDs, not any more

And Miami is paying an arm and a leg to Tua-Hill-Waddle and it's not working
What would really change next season?
I think 2025 is the last hurrah with this offense as you see it now.

2026 Ross hits the reset button.

The trio of McDaniel, Grier and Tua have one more season to prove it or lose it.

Tua’s team opt out in 2026 dictates that IMO
 
Finally a big sack.

23 total. Fewest in the NFL
A loss today and a few more could propel us to a chance to get a difference maker in the first round of the 2025 draft. I don't blame this on Grier - injuries to Chubb and Phillips.
 
WTF is Tyreek helping up an opposing player??

They got 10 other guys to help him up.

GTF back to the huddle. This is what I am talking about.

We are ****ing soft.
 
Phins lose today vs a worthless 3-9 Jets team at home in December...what else do you need to see as a Phins fan?
We've had some absentee fans I'll say that have opted to just ignore basically the entire season following Tua's last consussion, I wonder what the real support is for Grier and McDaniel at this point since we were reading fans in the summer saying McDaniel was the coach for the next 10-20 years, how can you possibly say that or see that when you watch this team?

Is it all a joke until they can get to the off season and try to get a Sam Darnold to come in and compete?
Tua is kinda completing a lot of passes but they are all short and Miami at one time was able to score long TDs, not any more

And Miami is paying an arm and a leg to Tua-Hill-Waddle and it's not working
What would really change next season?
Mac Jones is auditioning for a chance at a starting job. We can't afford Sam Darnold. We need to load up on defense.
I don't know, doesn't seem like the Miami Offense is a shadow of what it was a year ago
When has loading up on Defense done them any good anyways?
 
You guys spend every game thread ripping on your team and planning for when a reasonably good quarterback leaves. If you had somebody reasonable backing him up, you’d all be in the hunt in the AFC. Jeez. You’re breaking up what doesn’t necessarily need to be broken up.
 
You guys spend every game thread ripping on your team and planning for when a reasonably good quarterback leaves. If you had somebody reasonable backing him up, you’d all be in the hunt in the AFC. Jeez. You’re breaking up what doesn’t necessarily need to be broken up.
We're in the hunt right now! That's what they say. The issues with Tua are health and performance versus good defenses, which might also be related to Grier and roster construction, such as no TE involvement in the passing game until this year with Jonnu. I never understood that.

Your Jets have an interesting decision at QB. Rodgers looks spry today.
 
You guys spend every game thread ripping on your team and planning for when a reasonably good quarterback leaves. If you had somebody reasonable backing him up, you’d all be in the hunt in the AFC. Jeez. You’re breaking up what doesn’t necessarily need to be broken up.
Yer crazy…..but go ahead keep telling me how good Tua is.

This offense is nothing like the first half of last season.

That was the **** tease. We are what you see….a soft dink and dunk offense with a limited QB.
 
You guys spend every game thread ripping on your team and planning for when a reasonably good quarterback leaves. If you had somebody reasonable backing him up, you’d all be in the hunt in the AFC. Jeez. You’re breaking up what doesn’t necessarily need to be broken up.
We're in the hunt right now! That's what they say. The issues with Tua are health and performance versus good defenses, which might also be related to Grier and roster construction, such as no TE involvement in the passing game until this year with Jonnu. I never understood that.

Your Jets have an interesting decision at QB. Rodgers looks spry today.
Thank you.

7-18 lifetime vs teams over .500

He simply does not play well vs winning teams.
 
Brooks and Calais were great signings by Grier. So was Brewer.

OTOH, OBJ was a WTF. You can't win them all. Grier had some doubt himself - we drafted 2 WRs late.
 

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