Jets fans this morning? (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

What's the local buzz from Jets fans after this game? If I'm them, I'm fine. Rookie QB got some good lessons on the road (Houston road isn't really an NFL road game). Defense played well. Revis still looks like the league MVP. I'm fine if I'm a Jets fan this morning. Is that what you're seeing?

J

 

[=Smackdown=]

Cancelling their plans for the Super Bowl?

Edit to add: The green buzz would have reached epic proportions if they had beaten the Saints yesterday.

 

[MCguidance]

What's the local buzz from Jets fans after this game? If I'm them, I'm fine. Rookie QB got some good lessons on the road (Houston road isn't really an NFL road game). Defense played well. Revis still looks like the league MVP. I'm fine if I'm a Jets fan this morning. Is that what you're seeing?J

I am fine. There were people saying around here that the Jets would 0-4 through their first 4 games. While I did not believe that, I am more than happy with 3-1 heading into Miami come Monday Night Football.As you mentioned, there are several lessons to be learned from this game. First, the Jets D is for real. Do not expect to score more than 20 points on this unit. They have now shut down three top offenses and looked good in doing so. Revis and Asomugha are the two best corners in the game, IMO, and Revis is now on his level. The guy shuts down whomever he is covering, a HUGE advantage for the Jets. I try to avoid the papers the day after a win or a loss, because even the media are very reactionary. I see no reason why the Jets should hang their head afte rthis loss. Sure, it's no ideal and it should sting, but they will take more from this than the Pats win IMO. Sanchez has to do a better job of managing the clock in his head, he needs to go through his progressions and then either tuck and go or throw it away. His natural instincts are great, it's the football experience he obviously does not have.3-1 after 4? No problem here.

 

[TLEF316]

Fully expected this loss (especially with Pace and 2 CB's out). However, i figured the loss would come from Brees picking the jets apart, not from Sanchez throwing picks.

The defensive game plan was good. (had to play back a bit with the injuries in the secondary, which allowed the Saints to run the ball a little bit better than expected).

Obviously, Sanchez played like crap. However, i wasnt nuts about the playcalling. The O-line still isnt getting the push they need and I think Schottenheimer abandoned the run a little too early as a result (obviously this was partially caused by going down 2 scores due to the defensive TD's).

The bottom line is i'm glad this happened this week and not next week against Miami. Sanchez gets 8 days to look at tape and fix some stuff (gotta get rid of it quicker) and he'll be better prepared next week. I also think the jets O-line will play well next week, as it will be the worst front 7 they have faced so far (Houston, NE, Tenn and NO all have impact D-linemen. Unless I'm missing someone, Miami doesnt have a comparable force up front).

Positives....

Revis is an all-pro

Cotchery is playing well

Pace and the CB's should be back

Negatives...

Poor playcalling on O

Ferguson has proven to be an average LT AT BEST (not worthy of where he was picked)

Rhodes still not making as many plays as i expected he would.

 

[LittlePhatty]

The green buzz would have reached epic proportions if they had beaten the Saints yesterday.

Gotta lose a couple here and there.The Jets story works better if they are the underdog.

 

[Gadabout]

Seemed like all the drunks out in the Quarter last night had finally come to the realization that they have a rookie QB.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Most of my firends are disappointed but Ok with where the team is at right now. Sanchez finally looked like a rookie QB - and it was assumed that he would lose a game or two all by himself at some point - but will use it as a learning experience. Even in that terrible performace he showed glimpses of the skill and grit that shows he has "it".

The defense showed that it is for real. They played a hell of a game against a high powered offense (10 offensive points by the Saints). They covered the multitude of Saint WRs pretty thoroughly and pressued Brees enough to make him look human. They now get their best pass rusher - Calvin Pace - back in the mix as well. Pierre Thomas ran well on them but the D shut him down when they really needed to.

Bottom line is when the fans looked at the first month of the schedule and saw @Houtson, NE, Tenn and @ NO - any of them would have signed up for 3-1 in a heartbeat.

 

[Righetti]

3-1 with a rookie QB is nothing to sneeze at.. Sanchez looked every part a rookie yesterday and honestly there have been a number of games where he's gotten away with a couple of balls and/or fumbles which should/could have gone the other way..

Revis has been great, I was happy to see them contain the Saints offense and although I wasn't thrilled with the offense, I did like what we got to see from Shonn Green yesterday

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I am still upbeat.

Sanchez will have games like this and to think not is simply unrealistic. He needs to work on ball security. I think he will learn from a game like this and improve, although I do still think that he'll post another clunker or two this season.

I am really excited about the defense. They essentially limited the Saints offense to about 10 points. They made a couple of stops on 4th and short that they would not have made at all in prior seasons.

I expected a loss and certainly its best to get losses in games against non-Conference opponents.

Miami looked real good yesterday. Time for Rex to see if he can scheme agaisnt the Wildcat and let Revis try to shut down Ted Ginn.

 

[Cripster]

The Jets are a solid club that should improve. Sanchez will not have many games like this . Also, Calvin Pace will help the defense. This is a game the Jets could have easily won in late November. The Saints are probably playing as good a football as they ever have right now. I have been following them since the early 70's.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Miami looked real good yesterday. Time for Rex to see if he can scheme agaisnt the Wildcat and let Revis try to shut down Ted Ginn.

Gonna be an interesting game next Monday night.Not worried about Revis shutting down the #1 WR - Ginn - he shuts himself down weekly.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I also think the jets O-line will play well next week, as it will be the worst front 7 they have faced so far (Houston, NE, Tenn and NO all have impact D-linemen. Unless I'm missing someone, Miami doesnt have a comparable force up front).

I think this is the best front 7 the Jets will face in the first five games. Miami is top three in both rushing yards and YPC allowed. And they've shut down some very good runners. I'm expecting a very low scoring game next week. If Sproles and Fred Jackson can't run on Miami, will Leon? If Turner and Lynch and Addai and Brown are bottled up, I don't expect much out of Jones, either. I agree they lack the big names, and I don't necessarily understand the success, but the Miami run D/front 7 is playing lights out football. Of course, as good as the run D has been is as bad as the pass D has looked. Unfortunately, I don't think the Jets will take advantage of that (more on that in a minute).

 

[Ghost Rider]

What's the local buzz from Jets fans after this game? If I'm them, I'm fine. Rookie QB got some good lessons on the road (Houston road isn't really an NFL road game). Defense played well. Revis still looks like the league MVP. I'm fine if I'm a Jets fan this morning. Is that what you're seeing?J

Not a Jets fan, but if I was, I would be happy with the direction this team is going in. The defense looks scary good, and Sanchez will get better. Yesterday was simply rookie growing pains against a defense that has been great at taking the ball away so far. If you are a Jets fan, I don't see how you are not optimistic about their immediate future.

 

[zamboni]

It was definitely a disappointing loss considering that they key was to hold Brees & Co. in check, and they did just that. Rather, it was obvously the Saints defense that won the game for them.

Sanchez finally played like a rookie, and we had to expect it would happen sooner or later.

What I'd like to see Ryan do is try to take a page from Flacco and the Ravens last year. The Jets have a terrific D, highlighted by a superb secondary. Control the clock with the running game - the OL is very strong as well - and let Sanchez manage the game and not have to do too much. It's when they unleash him is when he's apt to make mistakes, as we saw yesterday and the ill-advised helmet-led goaline dash last week.

 

[=Smackdown=]

I also think the jets O-line will play well next week, as it will be the worst front 7 they have faced so far (Houston, NE, Tenn and NO all have impact D-linemen. Unless I'm missing someone, Miami doesnt have a comparable force up front).

I think this is the best front 7 the Jets will face in the first five games. Miami is top three in both rushing yards and YPC allowed. And they've shut down some very good runners. I'm expecting a very low scoring game next week. If Sproles and Fred Jackson can't run on Miami, will Leon? If Turner and Lynch and Addai and Brown are bottled up, I don't expect much out of Jones, either. I agree they lack the big names, and I don't necessarily understand the success, but the Miami run D/front 7 is playing lights out football. Of course, as good as the run D has been is as bad as the pass D has looked. Unfortunately, I don't think the Jets will take advantage of that (more on that in a minute).

Parcells has rebuilt both lines - the O is running wild and the D is shutting down the run. The Miami secondary is young.Next weeks game will come down to Sanchez throwing it vs The Wildcat trying to beat a very good Jets D.

 

[TLEF316]

yeah, i guess i didnt really look at the stats. I was talking more about the names. The Jets have had to deal with pro-bowl caliber D-linemen every week so far.

Didnt realize that Miami has been that good against the run. I still the Jets blockers have a good week. They're due.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Long thoughts here, unit by unit:

Defense

Just ecstatic about this defense. To play that well on the road against the best O in the NFL, without your top pass rusher and two cornerbacks? Just outstanding. The big worry is that Kris Jenkins doesn't hold up, and without him I still think this D could be cooked. But as long as Jenkins is in there and healthy, this D is Super Bowl ready. Gholston/Bryan Thomas are pass rushing busts, so having Pace back will be huge. The Jets will actually get to the QB when they dial up the blitzes now, as opposed to just getting pressure.

The D shut down Schaub, Brady and Brees. There's no reason this D can't have a Steelers/Ravens/Bucs type run in the playoffs... the key is not only is this a great D but it's a great pass D. With what the Jets might face in the playoffs, being able to stop the pass is probably the top concern. And we've seen turnover prone QBs (Eli leading the league in INTs, Roethlisberger leading the league in fumbles) win Super Bowls the past two seasons, so I'm not even worried about Sanchez derailing this unit. Of course, even the Ravens last year/Ravens in '06/Bears in years past have shown that a great D alone is not always enough. But I am very excited about the defense and think it's Super Bowl caliber. Most importantly, the Jets have an easy schedule this year, and could conceivably have a couple of home games in January. No QB is going to be putting up good numbers in the Meadowlands in January against this Jets D.

As excited as I am on defense, the offense is just as disheartening. Sanchez is a mediocre QB, Jones/Washington are just a tick above average, Keller is average, Cotchery is below average for a WR1, the rest of the WR corp is well below average, and the OL is disappointing. This really is Ravens North.

Sanchez had similar problems at SC that he's having here. He has a lack of experience, sure, but he really lacks experience playing for a team that gets manhandled at the point of attack. Sanchez is used to having time in the pocket, and as Sigmund Bloom pointed out at Draftguys, he lacks the internal clock to know when the throw the ball away. He holds on to the ball too long, he expects a great play to always happen, and he (understandably) has room to grow when it comes to reading a defense/moving a secondary with his eyes. Is that all going to improve eventually? Probably, because he's such a student of the game. Will it improve in time for a SB run this year? Maybe not.

The OL is not doing well, although they have some outs. Sanchez takes more sacks than he should. Jones has no burst. Schotty calls very predictable short-yardage runs. But the OL was the strength of the team last season, and it's not the case anymore. Mangold is great, Faneca is okay in the run game, Brick is okay, the right side of the line is decent... but last year, as a unit, the line was terrific. So far this year, that's not the case.

Why? My #1 complaint on the entire team so far this year is the lack of downfield passing. Schotty needs to open things up. The Jets had a bunch of passes batted down yesterday. Why? Because there are 10 Saints inside of 10 yards of the LOS on every play, and they're all looking at the QB, not turning their backs and running downfield. The Jets can't run up the middle. Why? Because every D has two more people in the box than the Jets do. The Jets are consistently getting into third and long situations. Why? Because on first and second down, the Jets either run or throw the ball for five yards. That allows every D to cheat and to stay close to the LOS.

The Jets can't use the Chad excuse any more. They have a QB that can throw deep. Do they have a WR? Yes. David Clowney. Is he good? Who knows, but more importantly, who cares. The Jets need to stretch the field vertically; that will help Sanchez just as much as a good running game. They need to get the secondary to think about the deep pass -- one a quarter the Jets need to go deep, and it doesn't matter if it connects. Right now, that's the biggest problem on offense. And a deep passing offense is not inconsistent with Ryan's ground and pound. The Jets were supposed to have star receiving threats at TE and RB to make up for a mediocre set of wideouts, but that hasn't been the case so far. We need to see more out of Keller and Washington, especially with both split out wide.

Of course, the play-caller is still dealing from a half deck. The Jets don't have enough playmakers and are not a good offense from behind. With a lead, the Jets can be a decent enough offense. If the D stays healthy, watch out. And as long as the Jets don't fall behind early, they should be able to win against any team in the league. So overall, after yesterday, I'm happier about the team's future than I was three days ago. There's a definite ceiling on this team because of the offense, but they don't need to be the greatest team of all time; they just need to beat the power houses in the AFC, and I think they can do that. Right now the Colts look like the favorite, and whether the Jets play the Colts at home or at Lucas Oil could be a huge factor. The Jets play @Indy this year, and I expect they'll lose, but if nothing else, that's good preparation for a game there in January. The Jets keys to going to the Super Bowl right now are getting home field, and scoring first in their playoff games.

 

[NYRAGE]

I blame it all on Ryan benching Clowney for tweeting. Just kidding, I'm still happy. The defense is only going to get better with the return of Pace, Sheppard, and Strickland. Once they get everyone back, we'll see this defense take another step. I'm so happy to be done with Mangini and his passive ways.

I've never lost sight that we've had a rookie qb. The offense is going to struggle this year. The early success has been great, but I've always thought that this year is just prep for next season. With a year under Sanchez's belt, plus a year of experience in Ryan's defense, this team should be a legitimate contender next season. Anything that we get this season is a bonus.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I blame it all on Ryan benching Clowney for tweeting. Just kidding, I'm still happy. The defense is only going to get better with the return of Pace, Sheppard, and Strickland. Once they get everyone back, we'll see this defense take another step. I'm so happy to be done with Mangini and his passive ways.I've never lost sight that we've had a rookie qb. The offense is going to struggle this year. The early success has been great, but I've always thought that this year is just prep for next season. With a year under Sanchez's belt, plus a year of experience in Ryan's defense, this team should be a legitimate contender next season. Anything that we get this season is a bonus.

I pretty much agree with this. Jenkins will be "only" 31 next year, and Jones can be replaced by Greene. The only guys who will be over 32 next year are both DEs (but I think Ellis/Douglas will be fine, and the Jets need to add a DE anyway), both guards (Faneca 34 is a problem, Woody 33) and Tony Richardson (the Jets could use a road grader FB, but those are pretty easy to get). On the plus side of the ledger?Gholston/Sanchez will be 24. Revis and Lowery will be 25 and 26. Harris, Keller and Mangold will be 26. That's a lot of potential improvement, with the most notable area being at QB.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Fire Marshall Bill (or Ed, whatever his name is) finally hopped off his brother's shoulders...?

 

[Jason Wood]

Nothing to sneeze at IMHO. Consider what the Jets did against the Saints in NO versus what the Eagles (who many consider a contender this year) did in their home opener against them, and you have a TON to be pleased about. Chase hit on a lot of points, but were I a Jets fan, I would be feeling really good about things right now.

 

[Reaper]

Cancelling their plans for the Super Bowl?

Edit to add: The green buzz would have reached epic proportions if they had beaten the Saints yesterday.

LOL... Really there hasn't been a huge buzz from Jets fans here all year... Moreso from Non-Jets fans IMO.Personally I think Jets fans at FBG are a great group of fans!!!!!

As for today - I didn't expect a win here at all. Tough matchup for a young team like this.. I said so last week... Though I expected a little different game.

3 Wins - 1 Loss.... Sheesh, way more than I expected.. One "Expert" said the Jets could start this year 0-5 and frankly I never debated that - with a rookie HC and a rookie QB no one knows what to expect and the schedule was tough...

But, Now Calvin Pace comes back and hopefully Lito Sheppard and it's time for some MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL!!!!!!

No dissapointment at all. Gotta take care of business this week though and Sanchez needs to step up - I've said that he made a few mistakes in the 1st few games that have been overshadowed with Wins... He can't keep turning the ball over and he's not backing up any defenses.

 

[comfortably numb]

I thought in August if the Jets were 2-2 at this stage I would have been ecstatic.

3-1 means playoffs are a possibility, not just a dream.

 

[Otis]

Sanchez was due for some rookie mistakes, and they were due for a beating somewhere. That defense was tremendous and shut down the best offense in the league. You never want to lose, but this was an encouraging loss.

 

[Brutis]

Its still early but looks to be a 4 man race between the Saints/Giants and Colts/Jets.

 

[JMJ]

Revis Christ and our defense will keep us playing at a high level all season long. Defense doesn't go into slumps and the Jets defense is for REAL!

As for Sanchez, it took him until Week 4 versus a very good opponent until he looked like a rookie. Our next 4 games leading up to the bye are Miami twice, Oakland, and Buffalo. None of them scare the crap out of you so he can work out some kinks in those 4 games before the bye in week 9.

We can very well be 7-1 going into our bye. I'll manage.

 

[switz]

I also think the jets O-line will play well next week, as it will be the worst front 7 they have faced so far (Houston, NE, Tenn and NO all have impact D-linemen. Unless I'm missing someone, Miami doesnt have a comparable force up front).

I think this is the best front 7 the Jets will face in the first five games. Miami is top three in both rushing yards and YPC allowed. And they've shut down some very good runners. I'm expecting a very low scoring game next week. If Sproles and Fred Jackson can't run on Miami, will Leon? If Turner and Lynch and Addai and Brown are bottled up, I don't expect much out of Jones, either. I agree they lack the big names, and I don't necessarily understand the success, but the Miami run D/front 7 is playing lights out football. Of course, as good as the run D has been is as bad as the pass D has looked. Unfortunately, I don't think the Jets will take advantage of that (more on that in a minute).

Pretty sure MIA didn't "bottle up" Addai and Brown... merely controlled the ball long enough to limit their opportunities. Addai and Brown were chugging along over 5 YPC against MIA, hardly "bottled up."

 

[PatsFanCT]

Its still early but looks to be a 4 man race between the Saints/Giants and Colts/Jets.

You're right. it is still early.

 

[JD8p]

I did not expect the Jets to win this game, they are just not there yet.

I am fine. They battled back, and in the end, their D was outstanding against the Saints. Two Sanchez mistakes were the main difference here, and if you don't expect that with a 22 year old who started all of 16 games, you are just not being realistic.

I still see them as a playoff team, and I still expect them to battle for the division title. No shame in losing to that Saints team in New Orleans. The real test comes on Monday night when we see how they bounce back.

 

[Fiddles]

Its still early but looks to be a 4 man race between the Saints/Giants and Colts/Jets.

no ravens?

 

[PatsFanCT]

Its still early but looks to be a 4 man race between the Saints/Giants and Colts/Jets.

no ravens?

There's at least four more he could add to his "4 man race".

 

[John Mamula]

What's the local buzz from Jets fans after this game? If I'm them, I'm fine. Rookie QB got some good lessons on the road (Houston road isn't really an NFL road game). Defense played well. Revis still looks like the league MVP. I'm fine if I'm a Jets fan this morning. Is that what you're seeing?J

I totally agree. After 1/4 the season they are 3-1...outstanding. The Jets weren't going to go 16-0 so if you figure they can go 7-1 at home and 4-4 on the road they are doing fantastic.It was only a matter of time until Sanchez had a brutal game, just like any other NFL QB.

 

[GregR_2]

What's the local buzz from Jets fans after this game? If I'm them, I'm fine. Rookie QB got some good lessons on the road (Houston road isn't really an NFL road game). Defense played well. Revis still looks like the league MVP. I'm fine if I'm a Jets fan this morning. Is that what you're seeing?

J

The Texans have the 3rd best home record in the league over the last 2 years. Only the Patriots and Steelers have been better at home.Jets kicked the Texans butts, but it had nothing to do with games in Houston not being "real NFL road games".

 

[xenith]

Miami looked real good yesterday. Time for Rex to see if he can scheme agaisnt the Wildcat and let Revis try to shut down Ted Ginn.

Gonna be an interesting game next Monday night.Not worried about Revis shutting down the #1 WR - Ginn - he shuts himself down weekly.

They should develop a game plan for Revis to shadow the opponent's RB, if he is indeed the best player on their offense. For Miami, that would be Mr. Brown.

 

[RUSF18]

I said this in the game thread, but I like Sanchez, so if I was a Jet fan, I'd be most worried about a defender destroying him for his continued cut blocking at players' knees.

I mean, have Harris or Pace go up to him and say, "If you did that to one of my teammates, there's no amount of yards or fine that would prevent me from knocking you out cold" if that is what's necessary.

 

[Reaper]

I said this in the game thread, but I like Sanchez, so if I was a Jet fan, I'd be most worried about a defender destroying him for his continued cut blocking at players' knees. I mean, have Harris or Pace go up to him and say, "If you did that to one of my teammates, there's no amount of yards or fine that would prevent me from knocking you out cold" if that is what's necessary.

Rex Ryan Adressed this.... Even if it were a legit play, it's absolutey STUPID for your QB to be in position to ruin his career.Sanchez probably has little to no experience in such situations - He's probably frustrated "in the moment" and looking to "do something".. but, no excuses... As Ryan said, it happened twice now and needs to be emphasized.I'm sure Sanchez will get fined... If I'm him I call up Vilma and apologize... Just a stupid stupid play...

 

[Breesisdaman]

their D was outstanding against the Saints.

I am really excited about the defense. They essentially limited the Saints offense to about 10 points. They made a couple of stops on 4th and short that they would not have made at all in prior seasons.

Not really trying to deny the Jets limited the Saints offense but you guys do realize the Saints left one and perhaps two TD's on the field in the last 7 minutes opting to run out clock over going for a blow out lead. The score is not indicative of how well the Saints offense played IMO. It could have been more one sided than it was. The main thing that would concern me if I was a jets fan is offense and not just QB. The line needed to open up room for your backs and they just couldn't get it done against the Saints. That will have to improve or you will see more games like this one. IMO

 

[JD8p]

their D was outstanding against the Saints.

Not really trying to deny the Jets limited the Saints offense but you guys do realize the Saints left one and perhaps two TD's on the field in the last 7 minutes opting to run out clock over going for a blow out lead. The score is not indicative of how well the Saints offense played IMO. It could have been more one sided than it was. The main thing that would concern me if I was a jets fan is offense and not just QB. The line needed to open up room for your backs and they just couldn't get it done against the Saints. That will have to improve or you will see more games like this one. IMO

The Saints had opportunity because of the poor play of the Jets offense. The Jets D held the Saints in check better than any team thus far.As I said, I did not expect the Jets to win. I think the Saints are the class of the NFC right now...yep, I think they are better than the Giants. All that offense ever needed was a slightly below average defense to make them a real threat. Well, it looks like the D is better than that, and they have a running game. You cannot fall behind the Saints, if you do, you are in trouble...the Jets did on two defensive TD's, and still, they clawed back to make it a game.All that said, we will really find out what we need to know about the Jets on Monday night.

 

[glock]

Liking what little I saw of Shonn Green, what are the odds that the Jets use him ALOT here on out? Anyone think it looked a little bit like the beginning of the passing of the torch...Thomas to Green?

 

[MCguidance]

Liking what little I saw of Shonn Green, what are the odds that the Jets use him ALOT here on out? Anyone think it looked a little bit like the beginning of the passing of the torch...Thomas to Green?

I think we will see more of how Greene fits into the game plan this week. I do not think he is in for a significant bump this season, barring injury. 5 carries on Monday night maybe, give or take 2 or 3.

 

[glock]

Liking what little I saw of Shonn Green, what are the odds that the Jets use him ALOT here on out? Anyone think it looked a little bit like the beginning of the passing of the torch...Thomas to Green?

I think we will see more of how Greene fits into the game plan this week. I do not think he is in for a significant bump this season, barring injury. 5 carries on Monday night maybe, give or take 2 or 3.

Even though he was effective to the tune of 5+ ypc against a tough Aints D, you don't see him getting more then that?

 

[MCguidance]

Liking what little I saw of Shonn Green, what are the odds that the Jets use him ALOT here on out? Anyone think it looked a little bit like the beginning of the passing of the torch...Thomas to Green?

I think we will see more of how Greene fits into the game plan this week. I do not think he is in for a significant bump this season, barring injury. 5 carries on Monday night maybe, give or take 2 or 3.

Even though he was effective to the tune of 5+ ypc against a tough Aints D, you don't see him getting more then that?

Its just my opinion, but I dont. They have Washington and Jones, both of whom will touch the ball plenty. That's not to say that if Greene starts to look very promising and does well with limited touches they won't play him, just that there are two key parts of the Jets offense in front of him. They need to get the running game going, so they will use the top guys. If Greene continues to play really well, maybe he'll get in there. Just my take, could be wrong.

 

[Rovers]

I expected that the Jets would lose to NO at home. The ONE thing that reallydisappointed me was Sanchez. Not the INT's, but he HAS to know better than to run around in his own end zone carrying the ball like a loaf of bread. That was a stupid mistake I thought he was not going to make. That was a pee-wee league footbll mistake. He should be WELL beyond that sort of absolute lack of awareness and bad fundamentals.

Other mistakes are understandable, that one was unforgivable. It shakes my previous level of cautious optomism I had in the kid. He now has to show me something more I beleive the Jets can make the playoffs. The D will keep most games close. Sanchez has to stop with the inexcusable mistakes.

Chase, you are such a darksider, I can't even read your posts anymore. One would think the Jets are 0-16 reading your ...comments.

 

[Aardvarks]

I've cruised the Jets fan forums and many are crying for Leon to get the rock. And they aren't fantasy cries...

 

[Yenrub]

Do the Jets get Pace back for the Monday night game against Miami?

How will the Jets defense do aganst the wildcat? How did they do last season?

 

[Green and Gold]

I blame it all on Ryan benching Clowney for tweeting. Just kidding, I'm still happy. The defense is only going to get better with the return of Pace, Sheppard, and Strickland. Once they get everyone back, we'll see this defense take another step. I'm so happy to be done with Mangini and his passive ways.I've never lost sight that we've had a rookie qb. The offense is going to struggle this year. The early success has been great, but I've always thought that this year is just prep for next season. With a year under Sanchez's belt, plus a year of experience in Ryan's defense, this team should be a legitimate contender next season. Anything that we get this season is a bonus.

I pretty much agree with this. Jenkins will be "only" 31 next year, and Jones can be replaced by Greene. The only guys who will be over 32 next year are both DEs (but I think Ellis/Douglas will be fine, and the Jets need to add a DE anyway), both guards (Faneca 34 is a problem, Woody 33) and Tony Richardson (the Jets could use a road grader FB, but those are pretty easy to get). On the plus side of the ledger?Gholston/Sanchez will be 24. Revis and Lowery will be 25 and 26. Harris, Keller and Mangold will be 26. That's a lot of potential improvement, with the most notable area being at QB.

Very . Anything they do this year is gravy, but barring injury to key players the Jets could become the class of the division as Brady's star wanes in the decade to come. I'm no Jets fan (Patriots), but anyone with eyes can see they're a franchise on the rise.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Why? My #1 complaint on the entire team so far this year is the lack of downfield passing. Schotty needs to open things up. The Jets had a bunch of passes batted down yesterday. Why? Because there are 10 Saints inside of 10 yards of the LOS on every play, and they're all looking at the QB, not turning their backs and running downfield. The Jets can't run up the middle. Why? Because every D has two more people in the box than the Jets do. The Jets are consistently getting into third and long situations. Why? Because on first and second down, the Jets either run or throw the ball for five yards. That allows every D to cheat and to stay close to the LOS.

The Jets can't use the Chad excuse any more. They have a QB that can throw deep. Do they have a WR? Yes. David Clowney. Is he good? Who knows, but more importantly, who cares. The Jets need to stretch the field vertically; that will help Sanchez just as much as a good running game. They need to get the secondary to think about the deep pass -- once a quarter the Jets need to go deep, and it doesn't matter if it connects. Right now, that's the biggest problem on offense. And a deep passing offense is not inconsistent with Ryan's ground and pound. The Jets were supposed to have star receiving threats at TE and RB to make up for a mediocre set of wideouts, but that hasn't been the case so far. We need to see more out of Keller and Washington, especially with both split out wide.

Clearly Mr. T reads these boards. Thanks, Mike.