Jets get Cromartie (1 Viewer)

[Carver]

From twitter:

"jets& bolts on verge of trade. cromartie goes to jets in exchange for a high pick in 2011 draft. 2nd or 3rd."

 

[Deuceman]

2nd or 3rd in 2011

 

[bigern1000]

So SD doesn't get an RB for Cromartie after all, then...

 

[gorf]

funny. i wonder if SD would have taken thomas jones...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

funny. i wonder if SD would have taken thomas jones...

still might get him

 

[Sweet Love]

Very interesting as I don't quite see him being a "Rex Ryan" kind of guy.

 

[gorf]

funny. i wonder if SD would have taken thomas jones...

still might get him

yeah, but the jets might not have had to give up the pick.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Updating a previous item, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the San Diego Chargers have traded CB Antonio Cromartie to the New York Jets. The Chargers will get a third-round draft pick in the 2011 NFL Draft that could turn into a second-round draft pick based on Cromartie's playing time and the Jets' performance.

 

[Domination]

I think he could be great for the Jets. He is a ball hawking corner, on a team that loves to pressure the QB. That sounds like a match made in heaven

 

[Chase Stuart]

As a Jets fan, I think Cromartie could do great as a CB2. A lot of his problems may come due to being "the guy" but as a piece on the Jets defense he might revert back into being a dynamic playmaker.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

As a Jets fan, I think Cromartie could do great as a CB2. A lot of his problems may come due to being "the guy" but as a piece on the Jets defense he might revert back into being a dynamic playmaker.

He wasnt the guy, Jammer is the guy (on SD anyway)

 

[Carver]

Word is... he likes to party quite a bit. Gonna be interesting to see how he fairs in NYC.

Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

 

[KoolKat]

As a Jets fan, I think Cromartie could do great as a CB2. A lot of his problems may come due to being "the guy" but as a piece on the Jets defense he might revert back into being a dynamic playmaker.

He wasnt the guy, Jammer is the guy (on SD anyway)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

As a Jets fan, I think Cromartie could do great as a CB2. A lot of his problems may come due to being "the guy" but as a piece on the Jets defense he might revert back into being a dynamic playmaker.

He wasnt the guy, Jammer is the guy (on SD anyway)

True, that.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

I think the kids outnumber the women rather than vice versa.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

In BAL, Rex Ryan said that Cromartie's pro day workout was the best CB workout he had ever seen 28 minutes ago via TweetDeck

No doubt, the guy's athleticism is sick.

 

[Carver]

Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

I think the kids outnumber the women rather than vice versa.

Yea. I was just messin around. I knw he has some babymamma isues.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

So the Bolts got rid of a 1st round draft pick for a 3rd round draft pick? Brilliant

 

[shadyridr]

As a Jets fan, I think Cromartie could do great as a CB2. A lot of his problems may come due to being "the guy" but as a piece on the Jets defense he might revert back into being a dynamic playmaker.

Jammer was the #1 CB in SD

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

So the Bolts got rid of a 1st round draft pick for a 3rd round draft pick? Brilliant

It's better than cutting him, which was the alternative if they couldn't trade him.Jets fans should be happy to get a guy with amazing athletic potential. Like Deion II type potential. (And it's not just potential -- he already showed in 2007 that he can be productive.)Chargers fans are happy to get something, anything, for him. He couldn't stay in San Diego. According to Acee, Cro wouldn't have started over Cason next season, and there's no way he would have been a good citizen as a backup.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

So the Bolts got rid of a 1st round draft pick for a 3rd round draft pick? Brilliant

throw original draft slot out the window when determining players current value. David Carr was a #1 overall pick and the Giants just let him walk!

 

[Mister CIA]

Word is... he likes to party quite a bit. Gonna be interesting to see how he fairs in NYC. Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

Has a bit of Beverly Hillbillies (invert ^ activated) going on here. ... assuming he loads up the truck.

 

[BassNBrew]

So the Bolts got rid of a 1st round draft pick for a 3rd round draft pick? Brilliant

throw original draft slot out the window when determining players current value. David Carr was a #1 overall pick and the Giants just let him walk!

Brilliant!

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Cromartie as #2cb to revis has off the wall potential for the jets

 

[Ghost Rider]

How ironic that he goes to the Jets, considering it was his pathetic non-effort on Greene's long TD run in the SD/Jets playoff game that allowed the Jets to take a 10-point 4th quarter lead. I guess the Jets then know not to count on him in run support.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Another great move by the NY Jets who suddenly are becoming the team that sets the benchmark. They know they want someone opposite Revis and while Cromartie is not perfect I still believe in him quite strongly. I think the Jets make another shrewd move and are able to cross another need off their list. They might only have to focus on an outside speed rusher and there are guys like that at the end of the 1st round.

RB is obviously another area of concern with Thomas Jones gone. I'm a diehard Phinsfan but I am very jealous of what New York has done over the past 12+ months, amazing turnaround and even though its a division rival I have to be honest about what the Jets are doing.

Miami can redeem themselves by siging Dansvy and Bryant for starters, would sho they are serious about getting better.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This guy could revive his career with this move. Could be a great fit for Rex's D just as long as he's not expected to help much in run support.

Pats fans are nervous.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Another great move by the NY Jets who suddenly are becoming the team that sets the benchmark. They know they want someone opposite Revis and while Cromartie is not perfect I still believe in him quite strongly. I think the Jets make another shrewd move and are able to cross another need off their list. They might only have to focus on an outside speed rusher and there are guys like that at the end of the 1st round. RB is obviously another area of concern with Thomas Jones gone. I'm a diehard Phinsfan but I am very jealous of what New York has done over the past 12+ months, amazing turnaround and even though its a division rival I have to be honest about what the Jets are doing. Miami can redeem themselves by siging Dansvy and Bryant for starters, would sho they are serious about getting better.

I like this MoP Yes, the Jets look to be in very good shape defensively.They need depth everywhere, but who doesn't?DE: Ellis and Douglas played well last season. Ellis had perhaps his best season in years and Douglas is a very good role player. DeVito was a solid DE3. The Jets need youth and depth here, and it'd be great to find an impact 3-4 DE, but the Jets are solid here.NT: Jenkins is not a guy you can count on for many games, but he's still a dominant interior lineman. Pouha had a breakout season as the NT last year. If the two of them can spell each other and keep both healthy and fresh, watch out. This position looks set, although some youth could be added to replace Jenkins in a couple of years.OLB: Pace underachieved last year, as he was the star of training camp, but he's still a decent 'backer. Bryan Thomas is strong against the run. Gholston may not be dead yet -- Ryan was saying good things about him and the Jets are going to keep him around this year. If he can develop into a pass rusher, the defense would really have another dimension. He's obviously nowhere close to there yet, but I wouldn't totally write him off, either.ILB: Harris was an All-Pro last year. Scott is very good and brings a good attitude to the defense. This group is set for a long time.CB: Revis might be the best defensive player in the league. Cromartie is one of the most athletic players in the league. There's a chance this duo could really shine. Lowery and Strickland have looked bad at times, but are young guys. I'm not sure if the Jets think they can groom one of them into being a good nickel corner or if the team still wants to address the position.S: Rhodes is a gamble at this point; no one knows what you'll get from him. Leonhard is very good at the other safety spot. Jets could use some youth and speed here.The Ryan defense is definitely one that's greater than the sum of its parts, but the Jets have All-Pros at NT, ILB and CB, and added an elite talent in Cromartie. They need a pure edge rusher -- someone to explode off the ball and get to the QB -- which is one of the rarest things to find in football. If they get that -- or if the stars align for Gholston -- combined with Cromartie, and this defense could be outstanding for a very long time. As it stands, despite not being good at CB2, losing the top NT and not having an edge rusher, the defense was still the best in the league last year, and the pass defense was head and shoulders above every other team until the final 35 minutes of the season.

 

[Gr00vus]

Word is... he likes to party quite a bit. Gonna be interesting to see how he fairs in NYC.

Doesnt he have like 8 kids by 10 different women??

Has a bit of Beverly Hillbillies (invert ^ activated) going on here. ... assuming he loads up the truck.

Some of the details make it a little less funny.

Cromartie in DMV, child-support bind

His driver’s license application on hold

By Brent Schrotenboer, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, March 5, 2010 at 12:02 a.m.

Cornerback Antonio Cromartie — traded by the Chargers last night to the Jets — failed to appear in court twice for different traffic tickets and hasn’t paid $799 in traffic-related fines, causing the Department of Motor Vehicles to withhold his driver’s license application.

It’s one of the latest in a string of traffic and financial problems for Cromartie, 25, whose future with the team is in doubt.

Cromartie was traded to the New York Jets Thursday evening after four seasons with the Chargers.

He is scheduled to appear in San Diego Superior Court later this month for a judgment debtor’s exam related to child support he owes one of the mothers of his children.

Last month, the Union-Tribune reported Cromartie was past due on about $25,000 in child support, according to court records and a local attorney.

Cromartie has at least seven children with six different women in five states. All children are under 6.

Records show Cromartie owes $499 for a red-light violation and $300 for failure to appear in court on the charge. He was convicted of the violation on Dec. 10. He also failed to appear in court after getting a ticket for driving while talking on his cell phone, according to the DMV. He was convicted of that in March 2009. It’s unclear what he owes for the latter offenses. Additionally, in April 2008, he was convicted of failure to obey a traffic sign.

Cromartie signed a five-year contract in 2006 with $7.35 million guaranteed.

Cromartie applied for a California driver’s license in 2006 but didn’t properly complete the application, so he was never issued a license, according to the DMV. Because of his unpaid fines, he’s not eligible for a license even if he does complete his application.

His attorneys and another Cromartie representative didn’t return messages seeking comment.

He has been named in at least five paternity suits in the past three years.

In January, an attorney for one of the mothers of his children filed a court document that prevents him from buying or selling any property without first making sure he’s current on his child support.

“My client has every hope and expectation that Mr. Cromartie will honor his responsibilities to his children and live up to his court-ordered responsibilities,” said Steven Bishop, a certified family law specialist representing one of the mothers. “She keeps receiving promises, but she can’t feed her child with promises.”

Interesting that the SD Union Trib decides to run with this the day they announce his trade from SD to NY.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Interesting that the SD Union Trib decides to run with this the day they announce his trade from SD to NY.

The article was already scheduled to run today. I saw a heads-up on it somewhere yesterday morning. (I don't remember where.)It fails to mention that his former agent also got a judgment against Cromartie recently for money owed to him.

 

[Gadzooks]

Another great move by the NY Jets who suddenly are becoming the team that sets the benchmark. They know they want someone opposite Revis and while Cromartie is not perfect I still believe in him quite strongly. I think the Jets make another shrewd move and are able to cross another need off their list. They might only have to focus on an outside speed rusher and there are guys like that at the end of the 1st round. RB is obviously another area of concern with Thomas Jones gone. I'm a diehard Phinsfan but I am very jealous of what New York has done over the past 12+ months, amazing turnaround and even though its a division rival I have to be honest about what the Jets are doing. Miami can redeem themselves by siging Dansvy and Bryant for starters, would sho they are serious about getting better.

I like this MoP Yes, the Jets look to be in very good shape defensively.They need depth everywhere, but who doesn't?DE: Ellis and Douglas played well last season. Ellis had perhaps his best season in years and Douglas is a very good role player. DeVito was a solid DE3. The Jets need youth and depth here, and it'd be great to find an impact 3-4 DE, but the Jets are solid here.NT: Jenkins is not a guy you can count on for many games, but he's still a dominant interior lineman. Pouha had a breakout season as the NT last year. If the two of them can spell each other and keep both healthy and fresh, watch out. This position looks set, although some youth could be added to replace Jenkins in a couple of years.OLB: Pace underachieved last year, as he was the star of training camp, but he's still a decent 'backer. Bryan Thomas is strong against the run. Gholston may not be dead yet -- Ryan was saying good things about him and the Jets are going to keep him around this year. If he can develop into a pass rusher, the defense would really have another dimension. He's obviously nowhere close to there yet, but I wouldn't totally write him off, either.ILB: Harris was an All-Pro last year. Scott is very good and brings a good attitude to the defense. This group is set for a long time.CB: Revis might be the best defensive player in the league. Cromartie is one of the most athletic players in the league. There's a chance this duo could really shine. Lowery and Strickland have looked bad at times, but are young guys. I'm not sure if the Jets think they can groom one of them into being a good nickel corner or if the team still wants to address the position.S: Rhodes is a gamble at this point; no one knows what you'll get from him. Leonhard is very good at the other safety spot. Jets could use some youth and speed here.The Ryan defense is definitely one that's greater than the sum of its parts, but the Jets have All-Pros at NT, ILB and CB, and added an elite talent in Cromartie. They need a pure edge rusher -- someone to explode off the ball and get to the QB -- which is one of the rarest things to find in football. If they get that -- or if the stars align for Gholston -- combined with Cromartie, and this defense could be outstanding for a very long time. As it stands, despite not being good at CB2, losing the top NT and not having an edge rusher, the defense was still the best in the league last year, and the pass defense was head and shoulders above every other team until the final 35 minutes of the season.

I'm betting that the pass rusher they need will be Adelius Thomas once the Pats cut him. And if that is the case, and Gholston can be somewhat productive then I think that would make Bryan Thomas expendable. Wouldn't mind seeing Thomas and Rhodes dealt for draft picks so we can stock up on some young DE's. Other than Gholston, Tanny has been on fire with draft picks the last couple years, so more picks will mean more opportunities for Tanny to do his magic.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Cromartie: From sizzle to fizzle

Chargers deal cornerback to the Jets for draft pick

By Kevin Acee

March 4, 2010

The Chargers traded cornerback Antonio Cromartie to the New York Jets Thursday night for a third-round pick in 2011.

The pick could become a second-rounder if Cromartie signs a long-term deal with the Jets, reaches a certain playing-time threshold or the Jets win the AFC East.

Thus ends a relationship that began so grandly but fizzled and threatened to become a serious distraction had it gone on much longer.

“I think it’s good for both parties,” said Chargers cornerback Quentin Jammer, one of Cromartie’s closest friends on the team. “Cro got his wish, and the Chargers got their wish.”

Cromartie had 10 interceptions in 2007, his second season after the Chargers made him the 19th overall pick in the ’06 draft.

After playing through a hip injury and admittedly being distracted by off-the-field issues in 2008, Cromartie played well much of 2009. But he had just five interceptions over the past two seasons, even as he struggled with paternity and financial issues away from the game. Moreover, teammates and coaches tired of his attitude and antics. He was accosted at least twice by linebacker Shawne Merriman in the past year over a lack of effort, and several teammates have quietly wished him good riddance.

Jammer, who attempted to mentor Cromartie and remained his staunchest supporter, said the real Cromartie was not known in San Diego.

“A lot of the antics were maybe techniques to get him traded,” Jammer said. “The person he is, that was not him. I think he got exactly what he wanted.”

The irony of Cromartie’s destination is that it was a few plays against the New York Jets in the Chargers’ Jan. 17 playoff loss that summed up Cromartie’s lack of physicality and brought widespread wrath from fans.

In reality, that game — including his non-attempt to tackle Shonn Greene on a Jets touchdown — had nothing to do with Cromartie’s departure. Cromartie, 25, had essentially been on the trading block for a year. The Chargers first made it known to other teams that he was available last March, and they continued entertaining conversations through the October trading deadline.

He became available again this offseason, and the Jets covet him for his man-to-man coverage skills. In their defense, playing opposite Darrelle Revis, Cromartie could flourish. He had frequently complained about how much zone coverage the Chargers played.

The Chargers will turn to Antoine Cason to replace Cromartie, and they will also look to draft a cornerback next month.

Cason was selected with the 27th pick in the 2008 draft. He was replaced as the Chargers’ No. 1 nickel back in 2009, but the Chargers have always seen him as being better suited outside at corner.

 

[Faust]

IDP analysts - this guy should be good for a big bump in tackles and INTs as he gets tested frequently now playing opposite of Revis, correct?

 

[Gr00vus]

IDP analysts - this guy should be good for a big bump in tackles and INTs as he gets tested frequently now playing opposite of Revis, correct?

I wouldn't count on the tackles - should lead to more fun highlights though.Cromartie puts on his Matador cape and hat...

 

[Polar Dude]

For Cromartie's sake, I hope this move works out well for him. I'm hoping Rex can whip this guy in shape, and not just from a football perspective. If he gets his crap sorted out to where he can focus on performing on the field, Cro/Revis could be an amazing tandem for years to come. Jammer acted as his mentor in SD and recently commented how some of the things that happened on the field and in the locker room were more an expression of Cromartie's desire to get out of SD than they were representative of who really is as a football player and a teammate.

 

[jurb26]

Cromartie has the potential and physical ability to be an All Pro CB. It seems logical that making him their CB2 would be a good move. I don't know that it is though. Cromartie plays undisciplined and takes too many chances. In a scheme that likes to blitz as often as the Jets that could be a disaster. Maybe the move will help him to focus more and turn things around but it doesn't seem like a good fit based on the scheme. And yes, Cromartie already was a CB2 in SD so this is a lateral move for him.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

From twitter: "jets& bolts on verge of trade. cromartie goes to jets in exchange for a high pick in 2011 draft. 2nd or 3rd."

confetti

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

So the Bolts got rid of a 1st round draft pick for a 3rd round draft pick? Brilliant

throw original draft slot out the window when determining players current value. David Carr was a #1 overall pick and the Giants just let him walk!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Cromartie has the potential and physical ability to be an All Pro CB. It seems logical that making him their CB2 would be a good move. I don't know that it is though. Cromartie plays undisciplined and takes too many chances. In a scheme that likes to blitz as often as the Jets that could be a disaster. Maybe the move will help him to focus more and turn things around but it doesn't seem like a good fit based on the scheme. And yes, Cromartie already was a CB2 in SD so this is a lateral move for him.

I think it's a good signing for the Jets. I know the SD faithful are in here pointing out he's the CB2 but so was Anquan Boldin a WR2 and just throwing out things like CB2 as a blanket statement like all CB2's are the same, just like Bryant Johnson who was a WR2 in Detroit isn't close to the caliber of a guy like Anquan Boldin.The bottom line is Cromartie on paper is a better football player than the guy he's replacing in New York. He's also going on a team where they were one of the toughest teams to pass on to begin with. So if you want to make light of the signing and point out that it's a lateral move and there's no difference one way or the other because of it I disagree.Good signing for the Jets.

 

[Gr00vus]

I know the SD faithful are in here pointing out he's the CB2 but so was Anquan Boldin a WR2 and just throwing out things like CB2 as a blanket statement like all CB2's are the same

We weren't saying it as a pejorative statement, just correcting a previous statement that being a CB2 was somehow a new thing for Cromartie. He'll do well in NY.

 

[jurb26]

Cromartie has the potential and physical ability to be an All Pro CB. It seems logical that making him their CB2 would be a good move. I don't know that it is though. Cromartie plays undisciplined and takes too many chances. In a scheme that likes to blitz as often as the Jets that could be a disaster. Maybe the move will help him to focus more and turn things around but it doesn't seem like a good fit based on the scheme. And yes, Cromartie already was a CB2 in SD so this is a lateral move for him.

I think it's a good signing for the Jets. I know the SD faithful are in here pointing out he's the CB2 but so was Anquan Boldin a WR2 and just throwing out things like CB2 as a blanket statement like all CB2's are the same, just like Bryant Johnson who was a WR2 in Detroit isn't close to the caliber of a guy like Anquan Boldin.The bottom line is Cromartie on paper is a better football player than the guy he's replacing in New York. He's also going on a team where they were one of the toughest teams to pass on to begin with. So if you want to make light of the signing and point out that it's a lateral move and there's no difference one way or the other because of it I disagree.

Good signing for the Jets.

On paper? On paper Cromartie is a better CB than just about everyone in the NFL outside of a handful of guys. So was D. Hall. That didn't make him a great football player in SD and didn't even set him apart from Jammer. All I'm saying is that it isn't full proof that it will in NY either. A team with a scheme that is less favorable to his tendencies IMO. NYJ's pass D is tough because they have talented players who know their assignments. Cromartie has shown to be a talented player who has sever lapses in his assignments thus far in his career.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Cromartie has the potential and physical ability to be an All Pro CB. It seems logical that making him their CB2 would be a good move. I don't know that it is though. Cromartie plays undisciplined and takes too many chances. In a scheme that likes to blitz as often as the Jets that could be a disaster. Maybe the move will help him to focus more and turn things around but it doesn't seem like a good fit based on the scheme. And yes, Cromartie already was a CB2 in SD so this is a lateral move for him.

I think it's a good signing for the Jets. I know the SD faithful are in here pointing out he's the CB2 but so was Anquan Boldin a WR2 and just throwing out things like CB2 as a blanket statement like all CB2's are the same, just like Bryant Johnson who was a WR2 in Detroit isn't close to the caliber of a guy like Anquan Boldin.The bottom line is Cromartie on paper is a better football player than the guy he's replacing in New York. He's also going on a team where they were one of the toughest teams to pass on to begin with. So if you want to make light of the signing and point out that it's a lateral move and there's no difference one way or the other because of it I disagree.

Good signing for the Jets.

On paper? On paper Cromartie is a better CB than just about everyone in the NFL outside of a handful of guys. So was D. Hall. That didn't make him a great football player in SD and didn't even set him apart from Jammer. All I'm saying is that it isn't full proof that it will in NY either. A team with a scheme that is less favorable to his tendencies IMO. NYJ's pass D is tough because they have talented players who know their assignments. Cromartie has shown to be a talented player who has sever lapses in his assignments thus far in his career.

That's why I said on paper and it's not etched in stone. Just putting him on the Jets doesn't 100 percent make them a better defense but it looks on paper that it does make them better. I'm not sure I'd trade this guy to the team that just beat me in the playoffs.

 

[Polar Dude]

I'm not sure I'd trade this guy to the team that just beat me in the playoffs.

Instead you'd do what? Trade him to some other team that you might face in the regular season or postseason? Cut him and get nothing? It looks like the Jets probably made the best offer of compensation. I'm not so sure I'd pass on a 3rd that could reasonably turn into a 2nd for a guy that I didn't want and had already figured to replace in the starting lineup just because the team that offered me that good of a deal just beat me in the playoffs.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

cromartie is the one guy in the nfl who could use that tired bit about trying to feed their family and I'd believe him.

 

[Vision6]

As a Raider fan I don't like this. Cromartie is as overrated as they come and money for any offense needing a big play. Not only do the Chargers get rid of him but potentially get a 2nd rounder back?

SD must have a magic wand.

Cromartie is going to get exposed like John Edwards opposite Revis.

 

[TwinTurbo]

This is an outstanding move by the Jets. Cromartie is worth the risk because he's only 25 years old and represents an All-Pro CB if he can return to form. I don't know what the scouts think of him now, but coming out of college he was one of the most athletic CB prospects that I had ever seen and it carried over to the NFL with his fantastic season in 2007. He picked off Peyton Manning three times in one game and still shares the record for the longest play in NFL history with the 109yd missed FG return against the Vikes. The skills are definitely there. He just needs to refocus and get hungry again. Rex Ryan seems like the ideal coach to make that happen and motivate Cromartie to have more INT's than illegitimate children.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'm not sure I'd trade this guy to the team that just beat me in the playoffs.

Instead you'd do what? Trade him to some other team that you might face in the regular season or postseason? Cut him and get nothing? It looks like the Jets probably made the best offer of compensation. I'm not so sure I'd pass on a 3rd that could reasonably turn into a 2nd for a guy that I didn't want and had already figured to replace in the starting lineup just because the team that offered me that good of a deal just beat me in the playoffs.

It's done now but from what I heard Detroit was interested in him. Maybe that fell thru, I have no idea but sending him to Detroit instead of a team that just beat you in the playoffs seems like a better fit. You asked, but I have no idea what else they could have done but to me giving him to the Jets is more of a last resort type move. And you guys can't have it both ways, you have all this "Cromartie is overrated" stuff in here and then when talking about the trade say it could lead to a 2nd. If he blows like everyone is saying, they're getting a 3rd. To me, he seems like a good player on an already solid pass defense for a 3rd round pick.

 

[Polar Dude]

If he blows like everyone is saying, they're getting a 3rd.

I didn't say he blows. I said the Chargers didn't want him and that he wasn't in their plans as a starter next year. Beyond that, Cromartie could completely self-destruct and the Chargers could still get a 2nd out of it if the Jets win their division.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

And you guys can't have it both ways, you have all this "Cromartie is overrated" stuff in here and then when talking about the trade say it could lead to a 2nd. If he blows like everyone is saying, they're getting a 3rd.

No, the Chargers could still get a 2nd if he blows. Apparently the 3rd becomes a 2nd if the Jets win the division, OR if the Jets sign Cromartie to a long-term deal, OR if Cromartie gets enough snaps.