Jets looking to get a bye (1 Viewer)

[NoFBinLA]

We'll see if the chip on their shoulder is bigger than the monkey on their back!!!!!

I do like monkeys - but am also a big fan of chips WHAT TO DO?!?!?!?!?

 

[brednbuddah]

you bring up some good points, but I'm not on board until they beat the Pats in NE on Thursday. It won't be easy.

They've been way too inconsistent so far to really assume anything. 4-2 appears like a good possibility, but I'll take it a game at a time.

Mangini coached himself out of the home opener vs NE. Hopefully, he redeems himself.

 

[Chase Stuart]

 

[JMJ]

As a Jets fan, our head coach and our offensive coordinator are still bumbling idiots, but I will tell you what, we are not running the risk of "being exposed." The team is getting better as the season goes on, not worse. It is all because of the offensive line. 4 of our 5 starting OLineman are former 1st round picks and the only guy who isn't (Brandon Moore) is a converted DT who mauls people in the run game. Thomas Jones has had holes the size he hasn't seen in his career the past few weeks and with guys like Faneca, Mangold, Woody, and D'Brick blocking for him each week, these will continue.

We're beginning to win games NY Giants style. Blow teams off the ball in the run game, allow your QB to manage the game, throw for under 200 yards on less than 25 pass attempts.

And don't even get me started on the defense. They are the 5th best run defense in the NFL giving up only 3.2 yards per rush and they are the #2 team in all the NFL in sacks trailing the Steelers by 1.

I'm not going to go out on a limb and say we will surely be 11-5, but we are in no way going to "get exposed" and the team is in no way a fluke. When we lose, it is because of our coaches. When we win, it is despite them. They are the only thing holding us back.

See what I mean?

 

[Ghost Rider]

I cannot see how anyone would think that Favre is the Jets' weakest link anymore. Not after last night's game, where his great play was integral in them winning a huge division game on the road.

Also, the Jets' defense is definitely improving, but still not dominant, as someone tried to say earlier in this thread. A dominant defense does not blow an 18-point lead, while letting Matt Cassel throw for 400 yards.

That aside, great win for the Jets tonight. They are definitely a better team than I thought they were.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

They are definitely a better team than I thought they were.

 

[brednbuddah]

wow, what a game!

and to think it took everything the Jets had to beat a Pats team that had no Brady, A.Thomas, Ty Warren, Harrison, Koppen and even Mayo for a stretch is a testament to just how good the Pats are.

wow!

 

[-baller]

and maroney

wtf

how soon they forget....

 

[TLEF316]

As a Jets fan, our head coach and our offensive coordinator are still bumbling idiots, but I will tell you what, we are not running the risk of "being exposed." The team is getting better as the season goes on, not worse. It is all because of the offensive line. 4 of our 5 starting OLineman are former 1st round picks and the only guy who isn't (Brandon Moore) is a converted DT who mauls people in the run game. Thomas Jones has had holes the size he hasn't seen in his career the past few weeks and with guys like Faneca, Mangold, Woody, and D'Brick blocking for him each week, these will continue.

We're beginning to win games NY Giants style. Blow teams off the ball in the run game, allow your QB to manage the game, throw for under 200 yards on less than 25 pass attempts.

And don't even get me started on the defense. They are the 5th best run defense in the NFL giving up only 3.2 yards per rush and they are the #2 team in all the NFL in sacks trailing the Steelers by 1.

I'm not going to go out on a limb and say we will surely be 11-5, but we are in no way going to "get exposed" and the team is in no way a fluke. When we lose, it is because of our coaches. When we win, it is despite them. They are the only thing holding us back.

See what I mean?

this staff will never get the jets where they want to go. They are stupid and spineless.

 

[JMJ]

As a Jets fan, our head coach and our offensive coordinator are still bumbling idiots, but I will tell you what, we are not running the risk of "being exposed." The team is getting better as the season goes on, not worse. It is all because of the offensive line. 4 of our 5 starting OLineman are former 1st round picks and the only guy who isn't (Brandon Moore) is a converted DT who mauls people in the run game. Thomas Jones has had holes the size he hasn't seen in his career the past few weeks and with guys like Faneca, Mangold, Woody, and D'Brick blocking for him each week, these will continue.

We're beginning to win games NY Giants style. Blow teams off the ball in the run game, allow your QB to manage the game, throw for under 200 yards on less than 25 pass attempts.

And don't even get me started on the defense. They are the 5th best run defense in the NFL giving up only 3.2 yards per rush and they are the #2 team in all the NFL in sacks trailing the Steelers by 1.

I'm not going to go out on a limb and say we will surely be 11-5, but we are in no way going to "get exposed" and the team is in no way a fluke. When we lose, it is because of our coaches. When we win, it is despite them. They are the only thing holding us back.

See what I mean?

this staff will never get the jets where they want to go. They are stupid and spineless.

Jets fans have been screaming this for 2 years now and now a national stage got to see it:How explosive is Leon Washington?!?! Yes, that explosive. How irresponsible is it to only give him 7 touches of the football all game long? He is the only player on our team who is a threat to take it to the house no matter where he touches the football. He now has 4 TDs on only 81 offensive touches this season (and he has a 5th on special teams where he leads all return men with at least double digit returns in kick return average with 29.6 yards per return, and he is 3rd in punt return average for all return men with at least double digit returns with a 12.9 average).

Get Leon Washington the damn football! Use him like the Eagles do Westbrook, or the Saints do Reggie Bush. I don't care how you use him but ******* use him!

 

[MCguidance]

As a Jets fan, our head coach and our offensive coordinator are still bumbling idiots, but I will tell you what, we are not running the risk of "being exposed." The team is getting better as the season goes on, not worse. It is all because of the offensive line. 4 of our 5 starting OLineman are former 1st round picks and the only guy who isn't (Brandon Moore) is a converted DT who mauls people in the run game. Thomas Jones has had holes the size he hasn't seen in his career the past few weeks and with guys like Faneca, Mangold, Woody, and D'Brick blocking for him each week, these will continue.

We're beginning to win games NY Giants style. Blow teams off the ball in the run game, allow your QB to manage the game, throw for under 200 yards on less than 25 pass attempts.

And don't even get me started on the defense. They are the 5th best run defense in the NFL giving up only 3.2 yards per rush and they are the #2 team in all the NFL in sacks trailing the Steelers by 1.

I'm not going to go out on a limb and say we will surely be 11-5, but we are in no way going to "get exposed" and the team is in no way a fluke. When we lose, it is because of our coaches. When we win, it is despite them. They are the only thing holding us back.

See what I mean?

this staff will never get the jets where they want to go. They are stupid and spineless.

Jets fans have been screaming this for 2 years now and now a national stage got to see it:How explosive is Leon Washington?!?! Yes, that explosive. How irresponsible is it to only give him 7 touches of the football all game long? He is the only player on our team who is a threat to take it to the house no matter where he touches the football. He now has 4 TDs on only 81 offensive touches this season (and he has a 5th on special teams where he leads all return men with at least double digit returns in kick return average with 29.6 yards per return, and he is 3rd in punt return average for all return men with at least double digit returns with a 12.9 average).

Get Leon Washington the damn football! Use him like the Eagles do Westbrook, or the Saints do Reggie Bush. I don't care how you use him but ******* use him!

I am in the camp that the Jets are using him pretty well. In order to use him more, they would have to be running him between the tackles, and there is no point when you have Thomas Jones. Many thought Jones looked slow - and maybe he is - but that was last year when the line was awful. Think about it, the Jets had 3 starters last year that aren't even on teams this year (I think, lol). Leon gives them the homerun threat they need - he is a great receiver, COP back, and special teams player. I agree though, that in the near future the Jets are looking at a special back. I just don't think that time is now with Jones looking very strong in his own role.I can see Washington making a Pro Bowl very soon - whether it's this year or not who knows.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia

NE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @Buffalo

I see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beating the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.

NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.

Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

 

[MCguidance]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

 

[Workhorse]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

 

[MCguidance]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

Other than the Titans, Ravens and probably the Steelers in the AFC, whom do you think is really that strong that both the Pats and the Jets don't have a good chance to make noise? I think these teams are good enough to get a game in the playoffs. JMO.

 

[Workhorse]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

Other than the Titans, Ravens and probably the Steelers in the AFC, whom do you think is really that strong that both the Pats and the Jets don't have a good chance to make noise? I think these teams are good enough to get a game in the playoffs. JMO.

Any team with a good passing attack will carve up these two defenses in the playoffs. In addition to the 3 teams you mentioned, who I think are better than the Pats and the Jets, I'd put the Colts in there too and possibly the Chargers as well, if they were to get in.

 

[MCguidance]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

Other than the Titans, Ravens and probably the Steelers in the AFC, whom do you think is really that strong that both the Pats and the Jets don't have a good chance to make noise? I think these teams are good enough to get a game in the playoffs. JMO.

Any team with a good passing attack will carve up these two defenses in the playoffs. In addition to the 3 teams you mentioned, who I think are better than the Pats and the Jets, I'd put the Colts in there too and possibly the Chargers as well, if they were to get in.

Chargers have 5 losses, they might make it, but it's not looking good. Plus they have not generated a rush, similar to other teams. Colts are a good mention, too. I think they are legitimate contenders for the WC. I still think the Jets and Pats are in upper class of the AFC, and have a good shot if they get there.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I don't think there are any teams that the Jets or Pats have no shot against. One of the most interesting things to watch in the forward Pats schedule is how the Pats secondary evolves. I think the view that neither the Jets or the Pats can beat near elite teams in the playoffs is based on what these teams looked like in Week 4.

 

[Reaper]

I don't think there are any teams that the Jets or Pats have no shot against. One of the most interesting things to watch in the forward Pats schedule is how the Pats secondary evolves. I think the view that neither the Jets or the Pats can beat near elite teams in the playoffs is based on what these teams looked like in Week 4.

As I said all along the Jets are still a major work in progress with all the new players... 1/3 of the starters are new. Hopefully they stay healthy and get David Harris back to solidify the middle....Forget about what the teams looked like in week 4 - Speaking of the Jets, I think they have potential to be something totally different in the next 6+ weeks...Also, as someone pointed out in the game thread, the stats last night have to be taken in context. Yeah, the Jets D gave up a lot but, give some credit to the Pats offense and Cassel as well - Plus, I blame part of the Jets Defensive problems on the Jets Offense. The drive at the end of the 2nd qtr plus the entire 3rd qtr the Jets offense did nothing... IMO, it should have been mostly runs.. (Funny though a lot of people wil tell you the Jets played too conservative with the lead - WRONG!).... Jets had drives in the 3rd qtr of 1:30, 2:00 and 1:30.... THAT coupled with the Pats hurry up offense is what helped tire out the defense and keep Jenkins off the field.If the Jets could have had a sustained drive anywhere in there, the defense is completely different - Easy to sit back and blame the defense, while they did have their problems.I'm also not so sure who these "Elite" teams are that people are talking about....

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia

NE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @Buffalo

I see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.

NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.

Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

Not to mention the Jets get both at home (and beat both on the road) while the Pats play both on the road (and lost to Miami at home).Arizona is also going to give the Pats weak secondary a tough game.

Pit and Tenn are both tough teams.

I don't see such a disparity in the schedules.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

How many "unflawed" teams are there in the AFC?Right now Tennessee seems to be the most balanced and complete team, but they do have Kerry Collins and medicore WRs.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I don't think there are any teams that the Jets or Pats have no shot against. One of the most interesting things to watch in the forward Pats schedule is how the Pats secondary evolves. I think the view that neither the Jets or the Pats can beat near elite teams in the playoffs is based on what these teams looked like in Week 4.

Please share with me as to who are the "Elite" teams in the AFC?Frankly, I see none (depsite Tenn 9-0 record).

 

[stbugs]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia

NE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @Buffalo

I see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.

NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.

Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

Not to mention the Jets get both at home (and beat both on the road) while the Pats play both on the road (and lost to Miami at home).Arizona is also going to give the Pats weak secondary a tough game.

Pit and Tenn are both tough teams.

I don't see such a disparity in the schedules.

Based on how good teams appear to be right now, I would say both teams "should" win 3 a piece (Seattle, Buffalo and Oak/SF) and then they both have 3 toss up games, althought with Denver's D, I think I would rather play them than Arizona. Based on TN being better than Pitt, I would say the schedules appear about the same in strength to me.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

I don't think there are any teams that the Jets or Pats have no shot against. One of the most interesting things to watch in the forward Pats schedule is how the Pats secondary evolves. I think the view that neither the Jets or the Pats can beat near elite teams in the playoffs is based on what these teams looked like in Week 4.

Please share with me as to who are the "Elite" teams in the AFC?Frankly, I see none (depsite Tenn 9-0 record).

My post said "near elite". HTH.

 

[Kleck]

Superbowl lock!

Give that #31/32 pick to the Packers.

 

[brednbuddah]

and maroneywtfhow soon they forget....

he would have had to play first in order to be missed...

 

[brednbuddah]

Yeah, the Jets D gave up a lot but, give some credit to the Pats offense and Cassel as well - Plus, I blame part of the Jets Defensive problems on the Jets Offense. The drive at the end of the 2nd qtr plus the entire 3rd qtr the Jets offense did nothing... IMO, it should have been mostly runs.. (Funny though a lot of people wil tell you the Jets played too conservative with the lead - WRONG!).... Jets had drives in the 3rd qtr of 1:30, 2:00 and 1:30.... THAT coupled with the Pats hurry up offense is what helped tire out the defense and keep Jenkins off the field.

excellent point.NE has back to back games against Sea and Oak. Any NE homers feel the Pats will stay out there after the Seattle game rather than making 4 cross country trips after their home game vs. Pitt?

 

[Rovers]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beating the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

Hard to fathom this logic. One, the Jets are a team with a lot of new starters, including a QB and two offensive linemen. The rookie Dustin Keller continues to improve, and this unit is showing steady improvement. The Oakland game was literally given away by some horrible throws by Favre, who has learned to be a more patient QB in this offesne in the interim.I'd cal the Pit @ NE game and the Jets @Ten games a toss up. I'd say both the Jets and NE lose thos e games. NE has 4 of the five remaining games on the road, including two back to back west coast trips. Buffalo at home in the last week of the season could be a tough game. You think that either SEA or SF have a reasonable chance of beating the Jets? Yet you see the Jets losing 3 or 4 games and the Pats winning, what, 5?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beating the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

Hard to fathom this logic. One, the Jets are a team with a lot of new starters, including a QB and two offensive linemen. The rookie Dustin Keller continues to improve, and this unit is showing steady improvement. The Oakland game was literally given away by some horrible throws by Favre, who has learned to be a more patient QB in this offesne in the interim.I'd cal the Pit @ NE game and the Jets @Ten games a toss up. I'd say both the Jets and NE lose thos e games. NE has 4 of the five remaining games on the road, including two back to back west coast trips. Buffalo at home in the last week of the season could be a tough game. You think that either SEA or SF have a reasonable chance of beating the Jets? Yet you see the Jets losing 3 or 4 games and the Pats winning, what, 5?

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloJets lose to Tenn, Buf and Mia.NE loses to Arizona.Of course I could be wrong...but we'll see.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

 

[MCguidance]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

False.

 

[Interseptopus]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

False.

bitter Pats fan hates nothing more than to swallow a loss to the JetsLooking at the schedule the Jets SHOULD finish 4-2. They have the firepower to beat the Titans too, so that could give them some wiggle room. Better draft pick for GB!

 

[Walton Goggins]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and MiaNE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @BuffaloI see 5 teams that have a reasonable chance of beathing the Jets, versus 2-2.5 losses for NE.NE makes up 2 games based on forward schedules, and takes the division.Edited to add: definitely in the give Leon more touches camp.

How can you see it that dramatic? Both the Jets and Pats play Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo - I guess you see the Jets as being worse than the Pats even though they beat them last night?

I see the two teams as dead even after last night. Both good, yet fatally flawed teams. Neither team is doing anything in the playoffs with their defensive struggles IMO.

Other than the Titans, Ravens and probably the Steelers in the AFC, whom do you think is really that strong that both the Pats and the Jets don't have a good chance to make noise? I think these teams are good enough to get a game in the playoffs. JMO.

Any team with a good passing attack will carve up these two defenses in the playoffs. In addition to the 3 teams you mentioned, who I think are better than the Pats and the Jets, I'd put the Colts in there too and possibly the Chargers as well, if they were to get in.

Did Arizona beat NYJ?

 

[Rovers]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

 

[MDSkinner]

Jets: @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia

NE: @Miami, Pit, @Seattle, @Oak, Arizona, @Buffalo

Jets lose to Tenn, Buf and Mia.

NE loses to Arizona.

Of course I could be wrong...but we'll see.

You may be right, but where is the logic in a team losing to two teams that they have already beaten on their own fields? I have no love for either of these teams, but assuming the Jets are going to lose to two teams they have already beaten and the fact that they get them both at home and one of those teams being a warm weather team who will be playing them at the end of December? I am not sure who your team is but I am guessing New England based on that alone.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

 

[phthalatemagic]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

No way in hell do the Jets win the division this year

 

[Rovers]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

No way in hell do the Jets win the division this year

 

[MCguidance]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

You may be right, but this is assuming the Jets are the same team they were early in the year - which they are clearly not. By the way, the OAK loss was not 3 weeks ago, it was before 4 straight wins over KC, Buf, StL, and NE.

 

[-baller]

The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2.

they gave that game away but they BEAT the pats.

megalol

typical jets fan.

 

[Rovers]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

No way in hell do the Jets win the division this year

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Jets-Pats winner certainly has the inside track on getting the #2 seed and a bye in the AFC. The Jets have a better passing offense, a better passing defense and a better rushing defense than New England. The teams are pretty close to even, but I think the Jets are a slightly better team and NY has fared much better in Foxboro than at home over the last five to ten years against the Patriots. I think they'll eek out a victory on Thursday.And after that? The Jets play @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia. That screams 4-2 to me, which puts them at 11-5 in the AFC. 11-5 will win the AFC East, and the Jets should have the tiebreaker if some other AFC-E team matches them.SD already has five losses and seems unlikely to run the table; Denver has an uphill battle to going 6-1 to match the Jets, and they'd have to win in NY to get that tiebreaker. It looks to me like the AFC North winner will be challenging the Jets (or Pats) for the bye, and not the AFC West winner.Baltimore is 6-3, but has the entire NFC East still to play and Pittsburgh. The Steelers have the Ravens, the Titans, the Pats, the Chargers and the Cowboys. While either Balt or Pitt might get to 11-5, it looks to me like the Jets have a much easier path to 11-5 or 12-4, and thus, have to be considered the favorites at this point to get the #2 seed in the AFC.

 

[Rovers]

The Jets-Pats winner certainly has the inside track on getting the #2 seed and a bye in the AFC. The Jets have a better passing offense, a better passing defense and a better rushing defense than New England. The teams are pretty close to even, but I think the Jets are a slightly better team and NY has fared much better in Foxboro than at home over the last five to ten years against the Patriots. I think they'll eek out a victory on Thursday.And after that? The Jets play @Tenn, Den, @SF, Buf, @Sea and Mia. That screams 4-2 to me, which puts them at 11-5 in the AFC. 11-5 will win the AFC East, and the Jets should have the tiebreaker if some other AFC-E team matches them.SD already has five losses and seems unlikely to run the table; Denver has an uphill battle to going 6-1 to match the Jets, and they'd have to win in NY to get that tiebreaker. It looks to me like the AFC North winner will be challenging the Jets (or Pats) for the bye, and not the AFC West winner.Baltimore is 6-3, but has the entire NFC East still to play and Pittsburgh. The Steelers have the Ravens, the Titans, the Pats, the Chargers and the Cowboys. While either Balt or Pitt might get to 11-5, it looks to me like the Jets have a much easier path to 11-5 or 12-4, and thus, have to be considered the favorites at this point to get the #2 seed in the AFC.

Yes, it was.... but the self quote will bring some flack from some bitter NE fans... but that is nothing new!

 

[Reaper]

My dad who knows nothing about the NFL and doesn't know a TD for a Hr (for real) just called..

he was in a diner on Long Island and said the whole place was cheering and he wants a jersey.

-4-

 

[phthalatemagic]

My dad who knows nothing about the NFL and doesn't know a TD for a Hr (for real) just called..he was in a diner on Long Island and said the whole place was cheering and he wants a jersey.-4-

It's almost like Obama. People that know nothing are on board

 

[phthalatemagic]

Congrats, the Jets beat the Pats; lets not get carried away, the Jets are just as likely to finish 2-4 (1-5) rather than the 4-2 (5-1) finish Chase is predicting

I understand being a fan, but the lack of objectivity by so many Pats fans borders on arrogance or delusional wishing, I'm not sure which. Face it... the Jets just might be a better team than the Patroits this year. They might not... but to say it's just as likely they will go 2-4 (or even 1-5) as 4-2 is blind homerism. If they are so bad.... how did they beat NE? NE has now lost to the Phins and the Jets at home. The Jets gave the Oakland game away... they should in fact be 8-2. You can root all you want, pray all you want.... but the Jets are in the driver's seat for the Division and have a good shot at the bye. Is reality really that hard to accept? Is baller your drinking buddy?

Oy, face it? I didn't mention the Pats in my post and I am not sure it means all that much, but if pressed it would be hard not to agree that the Jets are the better team right now. As for the Jets, they are not all that and yes they might go 5-2 down the stretch, the division and playoff race are clearly wide open and indeed the Jets are in the drivers seat. However, to think that they are so solid that it is blasphemy to suggest that they could easily falter down the stretch and dismiss it as blatant homerism (wishful thinking maybe) is silly. The Jets are the same team who lost to Oak 3 weeks ago, it is hardly unthinkable that they could lose to Ten this week and then Den the following week. Then they fly to the West coast to take on a SF team that is more formidable than the OAK team they already lost to; 3 of their games are on the road and 2 of those are on the west coast. I don't think they will be favored by more than 6 points in any of their remaining games (if they should happen to beat TEN that could change) and the reason for that is simple; they are considered by most to be a good but not great team.The wonderful thing is, we get to watch and see how it all plays out. If i'm wrong I promise to come back and eat some crow and take my punishment for speaking such heresy

:X No way in hell do the Jets win the division this year

I stand by that statement. If I happen to be wrong, feel free to remind me via pm and I'll admit it. I want to let you know now, so it won't be a heartbreaker later.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

he was in a diner on Long Island and said the whole place was cheering and he wants a jersey.

-4-

It's almost like Obama. People that know nothing are on board

Not really. Obama wears 08. :X http://photos.upi.com/story/t/76feb7f57981..._Daily_Show.jpg

 

[Bri]

Late games Jets vs Mia, Ten vs Indy, and Ten vs Pitt

It'll be interesting to see if all teams play "full tilt" or if some "take it easy" those weeks.

Jets have a nice schedule now. Will Pitt be pretty much locked into the 3rd spot then? Will Miami still be in the hunt or just out of it?

 

[Reaper]

My dad who knows nothing about the NFL and doesn't know a TD for a Hr (for real) just called..he was in a diner on Long Island and said the whole place was cheering and he wants a jersey.-4-

It's almost like Obama. People that know nothing are on board

exactly. some of em were wearing obama t-shirts. even.

 

[phthalatemagic]

My dad who knows nothing about the NFL and doesn't know a TD for a Hr (for real) just called..he was in a diner on Long Island and said the whole place was cheering and he wants a jersey.-4-

It's almost like Obama. People that know nothing are on board

exactly. some of em were wearing obama t-shirts. even.

Well, let's just hope they know the difference between Sanford and Son with the Jeffersons.