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Jimmy Graham "Uncertain" for Week 8 (1 Viewer)
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Not practicing, the highly questionable quotes, the Bramel tweets. Just doesn't feel right.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Regarding Ben Watson, before Graham became "the man" in NO, catches by the year by tight ends under Sean Payton:
2010: 102 (31 by Graham; he was not the starter yet)
2009: 88
2008: 107
2007: 75
2006: 40
So, TE catches were low the first year with Payton, but have been really high every year since, even before Graham got there. That bodes well for Ben Watson if/when Graham should miss any time. Not saying he is gonna put up Graham-like numbers, but low TE1 PPR numbers are more than reasonable to foresee.
2010: 102 (31 by Graham; he was not the starter yet)
2009: 88
2008: 107
2007: 75
2006: 40
So, TE catches were low the first year with Payton, but have been really high every year since, even before Graham got there. That bodes well for Ben Watson if/when Graham should miss any time. Not saying he is gonna put up Graham-like numbers, but low TE1 PPR numbers are more than reasonable to foresee.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Watson's not a slug, even though he's a bit older. Still would not expect low TE1 PPR numbers. I don't think the volume will be there. But he's going to be in on a lot more red zone plays than a lot of the other waiver wire TE's listed, so one catch into paydirt will be able to make your day.
Same here, rolling with Clay. Although I guess we could cut Clay for Watson, not sure who is better long-term if Graham is out longer than this week.
packersfan
Footballguy
I like Clay but if Graham's out for an extended period (and that's complete speculation at this point) I'd rather have the guy catching passes from Drew Brees.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Squintz82
Footballguy
Offered Cameron + Fitzgerald during Graham's bye week, and I'm very happy they rejected it.
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
We've seen this play out differently. If you feel your team is strong enough to risk a GTD each week, carrying extra TE's to cope. In the hopes of a monster week 14, it could very well pay off. In my case, I had a fledgling 5-2 team coming off two straight losses. I had to shake things up.
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Faust
MVP
The Bills Defense gave up a TD this past week to Dolphins TE Charles Clay.
Edit: not suggesting that Clay is in the same class as Graham and the Saints, just that TE match-up data over the first 6 weeks of the season is a limited sample size.
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
anyone have the balls to roll with Quarless? With Cobb/Jones/Finley all out-he could sneak in a good game this week against Minny's defense, which is ranked 26th out of 32 in TE FFP allowed.
packersfan
Footballguy
In my opinion Brees & the Saints' passing game is the bad matchup. I always give them the advantage no matter what defense they're going up against and I favor them even more when they're at home.
Squintz82
Footballguy
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
FWIW, it's Drew Bree's at home, but the Bills have been very good at covering TEs so far this year. Alonso has been very good at it. Byrd is also back and Aaron Williams is back playing safety. So I'm not sure that Watson would be as good of a play as people may assume.
The one difference for the Bills this week though is Manny Lawson has been covering TEs a lot and he looks like he'll be out this week.
The one difference for the Bills this week though is Manny Lawson has been covering TEs a lot and he looks like he'll be out this week.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
At least if he's close enough to be a GTD this week, he should be playing for sure next week... I hope.
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
They can beat the Bills without Jimmy. I think he sits one more week. Bigger question is how effective he'll be when he comes back. Very reminiscent of last season and his ankle injury.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I'm thinking of my making a play in my other league - I've got Gronk ad Thomas, maybe I should offer Thomas to a panicked Graham owner.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
need him for week 10 to cover gronks bye week.
get that foot healthy and be ready for the fantasy playoffs stretch run along with the saints stretch run.
get that foot healthy and be ready for the fantasy playoffs stretch run along with the saints stretch run.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Anybody have the guts to put Tim Wright in tonight? I'm tempted...
grateful zed
Footballguy
just picked up watson to start.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Picked him up yesterday. My only other option is Bennett, who is on a bye.
He's more of a blocker than a pass-catcher, but he's probably good for a few grabs. That might be the difference between winning and losing.
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Mistabishi
Footballguy
Yep all those signs led me to take Bramel's advise and swap him straight up for Gronk today. I'm excited and sad at the same time but it had to be done.
Mistabishi
Footballguy
Just FYI that he draws a tough sled in the playoffs. He gets the Panthers twice in week 14 and 16 who can easily take out one guy. See VJax tonight.ebsteelers said:
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
When healthy he's match-up proof. CAR also hasn't really faced anyone of note outside of maybe Rudolph who put up a 9/97/1 stat line versus them.
freejamaal25
Footballguy
i did. surprised it worked out honestly..Kwai Chang Caine said:
just_want_2_win
Footballguy
I'll be using Clay for the time being.
I had Cameron backing up Graham for a while but traded out Cam just before his production dipped. Not sure I'd be super confident in Cam now that Campbell's in there. Camp's supposedly going to check down a lot but I worry about his ability to do even that.
I had Cameron backing up Graham for a while but traded out Cam just before his production dipped. Not sure I'd be super confident in Cam now that Campbell's in there. Camp's supposedly going to check down a lot but I worry about his ability to do even that.
I grabbed Clay off the WW early so I'm OK for a week or two until he gets back... but I own him 4 leagues so I really need him for the playoff push.......
I think he's likely to ease back into it ... at 5-1 they really don't need to push him back. I bet they lean on Colston/Sproles this week.
I think he's likely to ease back into it ... at 5-1 they really don't need to push him back. I bet they lean on Colston/Sproles this week.
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Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I did it too! Five minutes before kickoff. Only guy going for either fantasy team so the degenerate I am, I sat and watched that whole garbage fest. Three minutes left--paydirt!At least I went to bed happy.
At any rate, Glennon likes him. We might do worse if Graham. Is out for an extended period.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Graham being a GTD scares me -- I would hate to start him only to see him leave in the 1st quarter. I rather him just be declared out and wait until he is 100%.
I currently have Kyle Rudolph at TE but considering picking up Watson.
I currently have Kyle Rudolph at TE but considering picking up Watson.
Woogie Lee
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
today is the big practice day, should shed the light on him playing.
packersfan
Footballguy
Maybe. Even if he didn't practice, though, if he showed up on Sunday ready to play you know he'll play. I think this situation drags out until the inactives are announced Sunday morning.
zamboni
Footballguy
And even then if he's active, who knows how much of a decoy he'll play or aggravate the injury the first time he's tackled.
Definitely a tough roster situation to face if he plays, but don't know how anyone can bench him if he's active, only to see him go 8-120-2.
packersfan
Footballguy
There's no way I'd ever sit Graham if he's active.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
If he's active Im playing him.
Usual21
Footballguy
Listening to Lammey's Game Time Decisions podcast and there was a caller asking about Graham. It was stated that the way the taped up Graham's Ankle was in the same way they would tape up a Lis Franc injury. Not saying he has a Lis Franc, but definitely something to keep an eye on.
Mistabishi
Footballguy
It was that information that caused me to go ahead and implement plan B. Trade him for Gronk. The only downside is Gronk has a bye coming up but I think I can make it through.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Mistabishi
Footballguy
No offense, but who made this statement? Because without a thorough examination (X-ray, MRI, etc), you'd tape up an ankle the same way for any injury to a specific location. The athlete would let the trainer know where the pain/discomfort is, what action he/she takes that causes the pain/discomfort, and the trainer would tape the joint in such a way to try to prevent/limit the pain/discomfort. Since we know the injury was to his foot, the tape job would look the same, whether the injury was actually a lisfranc injury, or some other mid-foot injury.
Mistabishi
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Def don't want a lingering issue a la Roddy or CJ - Much rather he sit then let this linger...
Really wish we had more info then "foot injury"
Really wish we had more info then "foot injury"
