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Four Year Deal per Rotoworld....
Maybe 8 mediocre RBs will end up equaling one good one.
Maybe 8 mediocre RBs will end up equaling one good one.
I understand the Cutler situation is ugly.But what is ugly about signing role players?![]()
The Broncos went through an unbelievable number of RBs last year to injury. I don't know why people are seemingly having a problem with the team getting some decent depth at the position. Furthermore, nothing says all these guys are going to make the final roster.Although I don't see how getting rid of Cutler or Scheffler will improve the team, I don't see how that has anything to do with depth signings at RB.It sure seems like they want to get ridof Cutler, now Sheffler too... signing a bunch of marginal RB's is somehow going to improve this team? It sure seems to me that Denver and KC have no clue, and will be the dregs of the NFL this year.
Contraire, while not a Denver fan, I have Cutler, Marshall and Scheffler on many of my dynatsy teams. I don't like the dismantling of the offense when it's the defense that is the real problem. I HATE watching Denver crumble.I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
How is the offense being dismantled? It doesn't look like Cutler is going anywhere this offseason and Marshall's potential suspension is out of management's hands.Contraire, while not a Denver fan, I have Cutler, Marshall and Scheffler on many of my dynatsy teams. I don't like the dismantling of the offense when it's the defense that is the real problem. I HATE watching Denver crumble.I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
Contraire, while not a Denver fan, I have Cutler, Marshall and Scheffler on many of my dynatsy teams. I don't like the dismantling of the offense when it's the defense that is the real problem. I HATE watching Denver crumble.I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
The O is dismantling? Didn't get the memo. You act like we're 1 month into the season or something...And they've signed more D than O, by the way. HTHMaybe...NFL | Jennings to hold private workouts with several teamsWed, 04 Mar 2009 16:06:13 -0800JJ Pesavento, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Liberty RB Rashad Jennings has private workouts scheduled with the Denver Broncos, the San Diego Chargers and the Seattle Seahawks in the near future.I would laugh if they drafted a RB in rd2 of the draft lol
As out of control as these guys are at signing everyone, they may cut Young and re-sign him to the same deal as soon as they find out he's available.I think this means adios Selvin Young . . .

As out of control as these guys are at signing everyone, they may cut Young and re-sign him to the same deal as soon as they find out he's available.I think this means adios Selvin Young . . .![]()

Thats funnyAs out of control as these guys are at signing everyone, they may cut Young and re-sign him to the same deal as soon as they find out he's available.I think this means adios Selvin Young . . .![]()

I'm guessing too many guys looking at it from a fantasy football perspectiveWhat is wrong with this signing? I could see Arrington being like a Kevin Faulk, as he is an excellent pass catcher. Every time I saw him touch the ball for the Cardinals in '08, he was making a play.
And considering the system McDaniels will be running won't be the same system that Shanahan ran, I seriously doubt that most of the RBs that were on the roster last year will be on the roster in '09, a) because, like I said, they might not fit in the system, and b) most of those guys couldn't stay healthy.
Thank god I'm not a Bronco's fan. From an unbiased opinion, and outsider looking in if you will, this guy has disaster written all over him. He's all over the spectrum in free agency, pissing off his star players, and what he's doing at tailback is beyond me. Maybe he already did this on his Madden 09 franchise and it worked.As out of control as these guys are at signing everyone, they may cut Young and re-sign him to the same deal as soon as they find out he's available.I think this means adios Selvin Young . . .![]()
Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
I'm personally pretty happy with what Denver has done so far this off season. Our D should be better. Our special teams should be better. Our O should be as good as last year. This whole Cutler thing will be so far blown over by the time the season starts it's not even funny. I think it has been blown way out of proportion by a bunch of reporters trying to stir up the pot. Cutler will be fine next season and he will be a Denver Bronco (and he will be happy about it) The only negative is the Brandon Marshall fiasco and looming suspension. Even that, with the dropped charges shouldn't be too bad of a storm to weather. At this point in time I think Denver will be a better team next year, not worse. Obviously a lot (the draft etc) is still to come, and the success of this off season is still up in the air.Don't you have to be somewhere for people to predict your demise? This is an 8-8 team that couldn't get out of its own way and had to start fresh with a new HC. But they're certainly going to have a lot of RB talent to evaluate. I'm sure a couple of these guys can make up a productive backfield. I just don't have a clue who they will be. I'm sure they'd prefer for Torain to claim the job and let a vet play backup and spell Ryan.Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
Demise from what? Donks are playoff afterthoughts. "With the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, the Denver Broncos select....."Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
Just keep telling yourself that Tommy if it makes you feel better.Demise from what? Donks are playoff afterthoughts. "With the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, the Denver Broncos select....."Sonny Lubick Blow Up Doll said:I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
Until 14 months ago, the Chargers had been playoff afterthoughts for well over a decade.Demise from what? Donks are playoff afterthoughts.

Perfect.ARCHIVED.Demise from what? Donks are playoff afterthoughts. "With the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, the Denver Broncos select....."I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
I seriously don't get all the flak that the Broncos have been getting for their RB FA pickups. If it was the Pats then all of you would be signing their praises.If you honestly believe that the talent they have at RB this year is not improved over last year one has to question your evaluation skills.Do they have a legit stud fantasy back that everybody wants...no, but then a lot of teams don't these days. Instead they have a bunch of #2s that will compete for the starting job.Not to mention that outside of the Cutler/Marshall fiasco the Broncos have had a good FA and improved their team overall. Their secondary is dramatically improved, they have more depth at RB, and a solid addition at NT and ILB. They still have holes, but not near as many as when the season ended.

I understand the logic, load up on middle of the road RBsand let them battle it out during pre-season.They still have quite a bit of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.I seriously don't get all the flak that the Broncos have been getting for their RB FA pickups. If it was the Pats then all of you would be signing their praises.If you honestly believe that the talent they have at RB this year is not improved over last year one has to question your evaluation skills.Do they have a legit stud fantasy back that everybody wants...no, but then a lot of teams don't these days. Instead they have a bunch of #2s that will compete for the starting job.Not to mention that outside of the Cutler/Marshall fiasco the Broncos have had a good FA and improved their team overall. Their secondary is dramatically improved, they have more depth at RB, and a solid addition at NT and ILB. They still have holes, but not near as many as when the season ended.![]()
Agreed, but even with that awful defense, they still managed to go 8-8 in '08, so if the defense improves even just a little bit, and they get some RBs who can stay healthy and be productive, they could definitely improve on that record...assuming Cutler and McDaniels get their little problems worked out. What happens with Brandon Marshall will be key, too, although I still say not having him could actually help Cutler, who forces it to him too much.I understand the logic, load up on middle of the road RBsand let them battle it out during pre-season.They still have quite a bit of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.I seriously don't get all the flak that the Broncos have been getting for their RB FA pickups. If it was the Pats then all of you would be signing their praises.If you honestly believe that the talent they have at RB this year is not improved over last year one has to question your evaluation skills.Do they have a legit stud fantasy back that everybody wants...no, but then a lot of teams don't these days. Instead they have a bunch of #2s that will compete for the starting job.Not to mention that outside of the Cutler/Marshall fiasco the Broncos have had a good FA and improved their team overall. Their secondary is dramatically improved, they have more depth at RB, and a solid addition at NT and ILB. They still have holes, but not near as many as when the season ended.![]()
This is obviosly a ploy to motivate....Selvin Young?As out of control as these guys are at signing everyone, they may cut Young and re-sign him to the same deal as soon as they find out he's available.I think this means adios Selvin Young . . .![]()
I don't think it was the reporters blowing it out of proportion.But I agree that Cutler will be fine. At some point he'll realize that having his panties in a bunch discomforts him more than anyone else and he'll decide to man up and play football.I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.I'm personally pretty happy with what Denver has done so far this off season. Our D should be better. Our special teams should be better. Our O should be as good as last year. This whole Cutler thing will be so far blown over by the time the season starts it's not even funny. I think it has been blown way out of proportion by a bunch of reporters trying to stir up the pot. Cutler will be fine next season and he will be a Denver Bronco (and he will be happy about it) The only negative is the Brandon Marshall fiasco and looming suspension. Even that, with the dropped charges shouldn't be too bad of a storm to weather.
At this point in time I think Denver will be a better team next year, not worse. Obviously a lot (the draft etc) is still to come, and the success of this off season is still up in the air.
They've already added at least 3 starters on defense (FS, SS, CB) that are obvious upgrades and possibly 2 more (NT, ILB). When you have so many holes as they did you can't go after all the high priced FAs. It is going to take more than one offseason to rebuild the worst defense for more than a decade (per some study on football outsiders).They still have holes along the D-line (1 DE spot and NT especially) and LB (SLB particularly) but they've made some solid additions and have 9 picks in the upcoming draft.I understand the logic, load up on middle of the road RBsand let them battle it out during pre-season.They still have quite a bit of work to do on the defensive side of the ball.I seriously don't get all the flak that the Broncos have been getting for their RB FA pickups. If it was the Pats then all of you would be signing their praises.If you honestly believe that the talent they have at RB this year is not improved over last year one has to question your evaluation skills.Do they have a legit stud fantasy back that everybody wants...no, but then a lot of teams don't these days. Instead they have a bunch of #2s that will compete for the starting job.Not to mention that outside of the Cutler/Marshall fiasco the Broncos have had a good FA and improved their team overall. Their secondary is dramatically improved, they have more depth at RB, and a solid addition at NT and ILB. They still have holes, but not near as many as when the season ended.![]()
I don't think Hall or Young will survive TC. I think Hillis starts @ FB (but still sees action w/ 8-12 touches per game). Buckhalter and JJ can rotate in as 3rd down/COP guys, Jordan starts, Torain is backup.Early march prediction.What is the pecking order in Denver now....HillisBuckhalterTorainJordanArringtonYoungHall?
I suspect a great many people, including some in this thread, would be #####ing up a storm if they went into work, found out from three of their coworkers that their boss was talking about firing them, and then were told "No, no, we weren't really going to, we were just talking about it." All the rhetoric directed towards Cutler is ridiculous. So he's pissed. He'll get over it. So should the public.I don't think it was the reporters blowing it out of proportion.But I agree that Cutler will be fine. At some point he'll realize that having his panties in a bunch discomforts him more than anyone else and he'll decide to man up and play football.I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.I'm personally pretty happy with what Denver has done so far this off season. Our D should be better. Our special teams should be better. Our O should be as good as last year. This whole Cutler thing will be so far blown over by the time the season starts it's not even funny. I think it has been blown way out of proportion by a bunch of reporters trying to stir up the pot. Cutler will be fine next season and he will be a Denver Bronco (and he will be happy about it) The only negative is the Brandon Marshall fiasco and looming suspension. Even that, with the dropped charges shouldn't be too bad of a storm to weather.
At this point in time I think Denver will be a better team next year, not worse. Obviously a lot (the draft etc) is still to come, and the success of this off season is still up in the air.
Ahem...Lions fan here. That title is mine.PeaceIt sure seems like they want to get ridof Cutler, now Sheffler too... signing a bunch of marginal RB's is somehow going to improve this team? It sure seems to me that Denver and KC have no clue, and will be the dregs of the NFL this year.
We've all seen the accuracy of a good GunZ prediction. Playoff time?Perfect.ARCHIVED.Demise from what? Donks are playoff afterthoughts. "With the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, the Denver Broncos select....."I don't see the big deal. A good KR that actually ended up filling in better in Az than most people realize. But I doubt most actually saw that -- they just remember a bust from the draft...
Wow, didn't realize how many people would LOVE to see Denver crumble. You may be celebrating their demise a little prematurely.
LaMont Jordan [Age 30, 2 years, $2.5 million, $500,000 signing bonus]Correll Buckhalter [Age 30, 4 years, $8.5 million]J.J. Arrington [Age 26 , 4 year, $10 million]It is going to be interesting to see what happens when training camp comes along. What do the Broncos do when the cheap young RBs start to outplay the older expensive ones?What is the pecking order in Denver now....HillisBuckhalterTorainJordanArringtonYoungHall?
In defense of JJ, it wouldn't be the first time a Cardinals RB went to another team and played well (TJ, Pittman, Hearst). That's all I got.Can somebody go get CalBear and tell him to come over and defend Arrington in here? Like the numbers between J.J. and Hightower and Edge and stuff?Thanks, appreciate it.
I've always been relatively ambivalent on Arrington. He's got speed and he can hit holes, but he's not a particularly creative runner. I think he clearly performed better than Hightower this year, but that's not saying much. I don't think he would have performed better than Edge if he had Edge's starting role. I think both Arrington and Edge got a raw deal, playing for a team that's simply awful at run blocking; I don't think Edge is nearly as done as most people do, and I think Arrington could be a useful role-player. I don't see him taking the starting job in Denver, but he's reasonably likely to win the regular third-down back role.Can somebody go get CalBear and tell him to come over and defend Arrington in here? Like the numbers between J.J. and Hightower and Edge and stuff?Thanks, appreciate it.