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in yahoo leagues, webb is listed as a qb/wr. if he gets the starting nod, is he worthy of a start as a wr. essentially for those starting only 1 qb, u could start him with ur normal starting qb for 2 qbs in your lineup. they face the bears who are generous vs the pass, but if the game is played in gopher stadium, i'm not sure how webb would hold up

 
If you have S. Rice this would be a great idea, but the problem is, this is a MNF game. There's a pretty good chance we won't know the starting QB until Monday, so this could backfire if Webb doesn't start and you don't have a good back-up plan.

 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
I'm a commish who is generally on top of things...but I'd let this slide. But in ESPN leagues he's only listed as qb so it's a non issue.
 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
You realize that Webb wears a number that is eligible for both WRs and QBs to wear right? :confused:
 
Just checked in my yahoo league - he's QB/WR. I picked him up to have another option at the flex (Austin, Blount are other options). I think if Webb starts he could be a safer play than the other two this week. (I am a favorite in the semi's, so the safe road at flex might be the way to go).

 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...Case closed.ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
 
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As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
You realize that Webb wears a number that is eligible for both WRs and QBs to wear right? :lmao:
"his" meaning Woodhead's #39, not Webb's #14. Our rules are clear that we go by what the NFL.com site lists as official position. Webb is therefore a QB.
 
Not a Yahoo FF owner by why in the heck do they see no desire, advantage or duty to update the roster positions for players?

A few years back in Marques Colston's rookie season it happened that Yahoo leagues got to play him as a TE, whereupon he rolled as a "WR" and proceeded to skrew standings for the rest of the year. So Yahoo has had notice.... do they just send the web master home after the 3rd week of training camp?\

 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
Sounds like a dictatorship, you change the rules that you dont like. If the site has him as a QB/WR he should be allowed to be played as such regardless of rule "you create".
 
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
How is it "case closed" under your rules if Joe Webb has not started any games yet?
 
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Sounds like the QB for the Vikings on Monday night isn't even on the roster - possibly Patrick Ramsey.
i bet ramsey is only being called in strictly as a backup to webb, who will be taking first string snaps all week.webb has been studying this playbook since training camp and has been picking favres brain all season long. i doubt they would throw ramsey in as a starter w/ less than a full week of knowing the playbook and limited first string reps.

i fully intend to pick up webb to (potentially) play as my wr2 or wr3 in a ppr yahoo league, as my other choices are knox, harvin, ford and james jones. notable FA wrs are sims walker, bennett, murphy, benn.

if webb starts the game and has even an average game of 125-150 yards passing, 20+ yards rushing and 1 td, he would be good for a dozen points or so- similar points to what i would expect for from a wr2 or solid game for a wr3.

an avg. starting qb SHOULD put up more points than an avg wr. webb is an athletic, fast young player and may have the ability to run w/ an opportunity.

if it looks like he is going to be starting the home game against chi on mnf, i fully plan on taking advantage of the yahoo glitch and using him as my wr. im foreseeing him doing some damage on the ground as well as the air.

 
yeah, hes a def start in any league if hes a starting QB.. he will give you 50 rushing yards easy.. and u gotta think he will give u at least 100 yards passing... and a TD seems very likely.. maybe even 2..

this is the reason why vick is the best fantasy QB.. because of his legs

 
Our rules are clear that we go by what the NFL.com site lists as official position. Webb is therefore a QB.
He was officially listed as a WR earlier in the year. How do you deal with that? You can start him at WR one week but not the next week?
Correct. If he moves to a different position like QB, you can't play him as a WR. This really isn't rocket science we're dealing with...
 
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
Sounds like a dictatorship, you change the rules that you dont like. If the site has him as a QB/WR he should be allowed to be played as such regardless of rule "you create".
Everyone agreed on these rules in the offseason :( So you're telling me that if Yahoo lists Brady as a WR/QB that people should be able to play Brady at WR? Riiiiiight! :sadbanana:

 
Brady can't run routes or gain any separation. ;)

Edit: There is a loophole in your rule. Webb has not started any games as a QB and was listed as a Wr until last week.

 
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Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
How is it "case closed" under your rules if Joe Webb has not started any games yet?
I'm assuming Webb has played snaps in the pre-season, yes? And those snaps were taken at QB and not WR, yes?Like I said... case closed. ;)

 
Brady can't run routes or gain any separation. ;)Edit: There is a loophole in your rule. Webb has not started any games as a QB and was listed as a Wr until last week.
I'm sure I can dig into some preseason records and see what position Webb has played... and besides, he's listed as a QB on the MIN team website.
 
if you do not think webb should be played at WR in yahoo leagues.. then your crazy.. thats his only value.. pick him up yourself if your unhappy about it

 
FWIW...Woodhead & McCluster are listed as RB/WR in Yahoo.
Woodhead is a RB/WR in every league that I'm a member of. His number may represent that of a running back, but he is often utilized from the line of scrimmage. That fact alone makes it difficult to specifically label him one or the other.
 
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
Sounds like a dictatorship, you change the rules that you dont like. If the site has him as a QB/WR he should be allowed to be played as such regardless of rule "you create".
Everyone agreed on these rules in the offseason :shrug: So you're telling me that if Yahoo lists Brady as a WR/QB that people should be able to play Brady at WR? Riiiiiight! :thumbup:
Not even a good argument, nor in the same boat.Brady has never played WR, Webb was a QB/WR when he came into the league. I know YOU may not like it, but that dont make it wrong.

If he is listed as a dual position player by your leagues website, then he is a QB/WR no matter what you think or your argument, all your doing is changing rules c uz you dont like them from what i see.

 
goldenchild said:
Don Quixote said:
goldenchild said:
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:

The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
How is it "case closed" under your rules if Joe Webb has not started any games yet?
I'm assuming Webb has played snaps in the pre-season, yes? And those snaps were taken at QB and not WR, yes?Like I said... case closed. :confused:
Although your rule is the conjunction "starts and plays", so he would have had to not only play, but start those two games. :thumbup:
 
My brother in law ran into this problem back in 1991 with Rod Bernstine. The magazine we were going by had Bernstine listed as a TE/RB. Bernstine became the Chargers starting RB (despite being number 82) and had 766 rushing yards, 124 receiving yards and 8 touchdowns. Per the league rules, my brother in law used him as a TE all year until the playoffs when the commissioner changed the rules and said he could only use him as a RB now because other teams complained .

Needless to say he quit that league after the season.

So, as long as you play by the rules you should be able to do it (as long as the commissioner doesn't change the rules on you).

 
My brother in law ran into this problem back in 1991 with Rod Bernstine. The magazine we were going by had Bernstine listed as a TE/RB. Bernstine became the Chargers starting RB (despite being number 82) and had 766 rushing yards, 124 receiving yards and 8 touchdowns. Per the league rules, my brother in law used him as a TE all year until the playoffs when the commissioner changed the rules and said he could only use him as a RB now because other teams complained . Needless to say he quit that league after the season.So, as long as you play by the rules you should be able to do it (as long as the commissioner doesn't change the rules on you).
Similarly back in the halycon days of FF, Kordell Stewart was listed as a WR in my league when he first started out (he was mostly used as a WR his first couple of years in the NFL). It was a distance TD-scoring league. You got double points for doing something out of position. So, if a WR threw a TD pass, it was worth a minimum of 12 points (versus a minimum 6 if a QB had thrown it). Needless to say, the Kordell Stewart owner dominated the league when the Steelers started playing Stewart at QB, but he was still listed as WR in our league.Something similar happened when Eric Metcalf moved from RB to WR.
 
bfarrell20 said:
yeah, hes a def start in any league if hes a starting QB.. he will give you 50 rushing yards easy.. and u gotta think he will give u at least 100 yards passing... and a TD seems very likely.. maybe even 2..this is the reason why vick is the best fantasy QB.. because of his legs
funny you say that, b/c i have vick in at qb.i got webb in as a wr and am feelin pretty good about it right now for playoff week 1.GO BIG OR GO HOME!
 
inca911 said:
The_Wolfman said:
inca911 said:
TommyGilmore said:
Txns8 said:
As commish I wouldn't allow this to happen.
Huh? You wouldn't allow someone to play by the rules?
Player positions are defined based on the data on the NFL.com website (or should be). Webb is a QB, just like Danny Woodhead is an RB, as designated by his jersey number. Allowing Webb or Woodhead to be a WR makes no sense. Of course, weak and incomplete rules may cause this to be an issue. I would expect any good commish to not allow this kind of cheap play.
You realize that Webb wears a number that is eligible for both WRs and QBs to wear right? :thumbup:
"his" meaning Woodhead's #39, not Webb's #14. Our rules are clear that we go by what the NFL.com site lists as official position. Webb is therefore a QB.
How many QBs that you know of work punt/kick return duty? Dude was drafted as and plays as an athlete. the QB/WR designation is legit.
 
Football Critic said:
goldenchild said:
Football Critic said:
goldenchild said:
mozzy84 said:
we go by what the website lists them as, if you want more work as commish have at it.
In the league that I commish, I've got this rule in our rulebook:The [name of rule removed] rule says that if a player is officially listed as position X... but he starts and plays only position Y for 2 or more games, then I have the right, as commissioner, to manually change their position on the MFL.com site. If said player is continuously switching between position X and position Y, then I will leave his officially listed position as is...

Case closed.

ETA: I created this rule during the offseason following Colston's rookie year, when Yahoo listed Colston as a TE :rollseyes: Of course, the owner that had him played him at TE and won the championship.
Sounds like a dictatorship, you change the rules that you dont like. If the site has him as a QB/WR he should be allowed to be played as such regardless of rule "you create".
Everyone agreed on these rules in the offseason :own3d: So you're telling me that if Yahoo lists Brady as a WR/QB that people should be able to play Brady at WR? Riiiiiight! :thumbup:
Not even a good argument, nor in the same boat.Brady has never played WR, Webb was a QB/WR when he came into the league. I know YOU may not like it, but that dont make it wrong.

If he is listed as a dual position player by your leagues website, then he is a QB/WR no matter what you think or your argument, all your doing is changing rules c uz you dont like them from what i see.
Obviously the Brady example was a bit dramatic. But let me ask you this then... If a team loses their starting QB and all of the backups in the same game, they would need to put in someone and it would likely be a CB or WR (I thought I heard the announcers this past weekend say that Charles Woodson was the backup to Flynn?). So by your definition, we should be able to put Charles Woodson in at QB? Or you should complain to Yahoo and have them change Woodson's status? What is wrong with having a rule in place to ensure that players are used for their real purpose?Yahoo is the only website that has Webb listed at a QB/WR... the only one. We ran into this problem with Yahoo Colston's rookie year we took our league straight to MFL and have never looked back.

Now, based on the feedback that I've received here, I agree that my wording can use some work. I may change it in the offseason to state that players will be listed as they are on the official team website?

But you keep fighting the good fight :thumbup:

 
Is there even a realistic chance that he plays? TJax just has turf toe which is just a matter of playing through the pain. Frazier has said that he would prefer to play TJax. Also, if they are looking to bring in another QB that says they are pretty strongly against playing Webb:

T-Jax has turf toe, Vikes hope Favre can play

Interim coach Leslie Frazier revealed Tuesday that Tarvaris Jackson has turf toe, placing his status in jeopardy for Monday's game against the Bears.

He's already been ruled out of Thursday's practice. Rookie Joe Webb will handle the first-team reps for now, but the Vikes are still holding out hope that Brett Favre can return in time for Monday's game after an ultrasound on his shoulder turned up negative. Frazier has a list of eight street free agents, conceding that one of them could end up starting Monday night in a worst-case scenario. Pro Football Talk has mentioned Patrick Ramsey as a prime candidate. Dec. 14 - 4:21 pm et

I think Webb showed enough at UAB to at least be given a chance. He can't be much worse than TJax who they know they can't move forward with.

 
Yahoo is the only website that has Webb listed at a QB/WR... the only one. We ran into this problem with Yahoo Colston's rookie year we took our league straight to MFL and have never looked back.
I don't think it's fair to compare Webb's situation to Colston's situation. Colston was listed as a TE by mistake -- he may have been drafted by New Orleans with the idea of converting him to TE, but he never actually played TE in the preseason or regular season and I don't think New Orleans ever officially listed him as a TE. Webb, however, has actually played both QB and WR.
 
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Is there even a realistic chance that he plays? TJax just has turf toe which is just a matter of playing through the pain. Frazier has said that he would prefer to play TJax. Also, if they are looking to bring in another QB that says they are pretty strongly against playing Webb:

T-Jax has turf toe, Vikes hope Favre can play

Interim coach Leslie Frazier revealed Tuesday that Tarvaris Jackson has turf toe, placing his status in jeopardy for Monday's game against the Bears.

He's already been ruled out of Thursday's practice. Rookie Joe Webb will handle the first-team reps for now, but the Vikes are still holding out hope that Brett Favre can return in time for Monday's game after an ultrasound on his shoulder turned up negative. Frazier has a list of eight street free agents, conceding that one of them could end up starting Monday night in a worst-case scenario. Pro Football Talk has mentioned Patrick Ramsey as a prime candidate. Dec. 14 - 4:21 pm et

I think Webb showed enough at UAB to at least be given a chance. He can't be much worse than TJax who they know they can't move forward with.
I don't think the fact that they are looking to bring in another QB says "they are pretty strongly against playing Webb". They just want to have somebody else available if Favre and Jackson can't go at all. If they do bring in somebody else I think Favre goes on I.R. It really makes no sense to keep him around other than to give him one final curtain call.
 
Yahoo is the only website that has Webb listed at a QB/WR... the only one. We ran into this problem with Yahoo Colston's rookie year we took our league straight to MFL and have never looked back.
I don't think it's fair to compare Webb's situation to Colston's situation. Colston was listed as a TE by mistake -- he may have been drafted with the idea of converting him to TE, but he never actually played TE in the preseason or regular season and I don't think New Orleans ever officially listed him as a TE. Webb, however, has actually played both QB and WR.
True. Which supports my earlier suggestion to change my league rulebook to reflect that players will be listed as they are on the official team website. That should take care of any confusion.
 
Trizzler said:
Woodhead is a RB/WR in every league that I'm a member of. His number may represent that of a running back, but he is often utilized from the line of scrimmage. That fact alone makes it difficult to specifically label him one or the other.
The NFL labels Woodhead as an RB, and only an RB, on NFL.com. Why is it so difficult for you to label him, when it has already been definitively done by the National Football League?
 
all hail the SP for pointing this out, but this thread isn't going as I thought it would. Lets just assume everyone can start Webb in their leagues at WR.

I just picked him up after reading this thread in a non-ppr 6pt pass TD league. If he gets the nod I'm looking to start him over fitz or wallace.

 
Good thing they didn't have fantasy football in the 60's and early 70's because there would have been a lot of confusion with Paul Hornung (RB/K), Gino Cappelletti (WR/K) and George Blanda (QB/K).

 
Rotoworld says GTD on starter. Vikes have nothing to play for and know Ramsey won't be their starter, or even on the roster, next year. So what are they thinking here? Seems like the clear-cut logical play is to let Webb play out the season and see if there's a reason to keep him around, or maybe give up on him as a QB and move him permanently to special teams as a returner.

 
I am in a Yahoo league and would definitely consider him in at the flex over TB Mike. I think it wouldn't be crazy to expect 125 yds passing, 1 TD, and 30-40 yds rushing as a floor. Good for 13 points, and seems to be pretty safe play if there aren't a ton of fumbles/INTs. Interesting.

 

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