Joey Galloway... (1 Viewer)

[Warpig]

If you saw the game last night you may be thinking the same thing. I don't own Galloway in any of my leagues but I do own Gradkowski (not as a starter).

That one pass Grad threw that was deep down the field where Galloway was wide open...for GOD's sake Joey...JUMP!!! Had you left your feet you could have caught that! Piss poor effort! I even think Gruden gave him a piece of his mind after the series.

Then on the other play where Joey was at the first down line and Grad puts the ball right in his hands but he alligator armed it and pulled back because he didn't want to get hit.

That kinda sissy ### bull#### pisses me off. Do they have any other receivers that will atleast put forth some effort?



Joey Galloway =

 

[QUEZILLA]

I think he lost the first one, he didn't even put his hands up. The second one could have been thrown a little further, but Galloway has never been known as a physical wr.

It has been a long season for us Buc's fans. When Grad throws a good pass the WR's don't catch it. When they are open, he throws an INT. Caddy fumbling

Looking forward to the draft already

 

[Punchie]

Receivers are taught to run through the ball, if Joey had jumped he likely wouldn't have been as close as he was. He was running fullspeed just to try and get under the thing. As a Bucs fan the one bright spot this season has been Galloway, and I refuse to put him down for not being able to catch up to an awful throw.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

Gradkowski overshoots a wide open Galloway by 5-plus yards and you are pissed at Galloway? All the dude had to do was put some air under it and Galloway could adjust. He had his man beat by 10 yards.

That was a horrible throw.

 

[gump]

It's hard to criticize the teams only offensive bright spot, but I've been watching Galloway over the last few weeks closely. His demeanor has become more laid back than ever. I don't think he cares anymore. You can see it in his reaction after poor passes or his drops.

 

[JuniorNB]

Gradkowski overshoots a wide open Galloway by 5-plus yards and you are pissed at Galloway? All the dude had to do was put some air under it and Galloway could adjust. He had his man beat by 10 yards.That was a horrible throw.

He was also a step or two ahead of Gamble on the interception and Gradkowski underthrew him.Two good throws and Galloway could have had a MONSTER game.

 

[helix]

Gradkowski overshoots a wide open Galloway by 5-plus yards and you are pissed at Galloway? All the dude had to do was put some air under it and Galloway could adjust. He had his man beat by 10 yards.

That was a horrible throw.

Blaming Galloway is just silly. This was not a TO TD drop-

 

[Capella]

He said in the paper today that he runs through the ball -- doesn't dive, as it slows him down.

 

[Warpig]

Gradkowski overshoots a wide open Galloway by 5-plus yards and you are pissed at Galloway? All the dude had to do was put some air under it and Galloway could adjust. He had his man beat by 10 yards.That was a horrible throw.

Take the blinders off. Sure Gradkowski over threw the ball...but by 5 yards? Go back and watch it again. Had Joey left his feet, also known as "laying out", ala a Torry Holt or Marvin Harrison he would have caught that...no problem. Hell, I leave my feet playing in the backyard...and I ain't getting paid millions. Playmakers make plays. I guess Galloway has packed it in for the year. Does he realize he plays football and getting hit is part of the game?Yes, I do blame Galloway. What is your excuse for him alligator arming the ball that would have been a first down? His hands weren't ready? I have a feeling Grad's stats wouldn't be as bad if he had someone that was willing to catch the ball. Hell, Ike Hilliard took a shot on his touchdown grab...he was trying to help his team win.I'm just disappointed in Galloway's effort lately. I thought he was better than what he showed last night. On Monday night no less.

 

[Lauryn]

galloway is the only bright spot on that wretched offense. he produces no matter what stiff they've put behind center the last few years. to criticize him is :11:

 

[JuniorNB]

Gradkowski overshoots a wide open Galloway by 5-plus yards and you are pissed at Galloway? All the dude had to do was put some air under it and Galloway could adjust. He had his man beat by 10 yards.That was a horrible throw.

Take the blinders off. Sure Gradkowski over threw the ball...but by 5 yards? Go back and watch it again. Had Joey left his feet, also known as "laying out", ala a Torry Holt or Marvin Harrison he would have caught that...no problem. Hell, I leave my feet playing in the backyard...and I ain't getting paid millions. Playmakers make plays. I guess Galloway has packed it in for the year. Does he realize he plays football and getting hit is part of the game?Yes, I do blame Galloway. What is your excuse for him alligator arming the ball that would have been a first down? His hands weren't ready? I have a feeling Grad's stats wouldn't be as bad if he had someone that was willing to catch the ball. Hell, Ike Hilliard took a shot on his touchdown grab...he was trying to help his team win.I'm just disappointed in Galloway's effort lately. I thought he was better than what he showed last night. On Monday night no less.

Galloway has two games this year with multiple touchdowns. He's been great considering the QB who's throwing to him.

 

[The Ref]

What I don't understand is the only time the bucs move the ball is when they spread it out and target Galloway (see the back to back 20 yard throws early in the 4Q last night). So why not open up the O a little bit?

 

[Capella]

What I don't understand is the only time the bucs move the ball is when they spread it out and target Galloway (see the back to back 20 yard throws early in the 4Q last night). So why not open up the O a little bit?

Because the oline would get the QB killed.

 

[Pnishthm]

What I don't understand is the only time the bucs move the ball is when they spread it out and target Galloway (see the back to back 20 yard throws early in the 4Q last night). So why not open up the O a little bit?

Because the oline would get the QB killed.

The line play was so bad last night that I started counting to three when Gradkowski droped back just to see if they even gave him 3 seconds. Very rarely did I even make it to three before someone got in there.

 

[Gargoylez]

What I don't understand is the only time the bucs move the ball is when they spread it out and target Galloway (see the back to back 20 yard throws early in the 4Q last night). So why not open up the O a little bit?

Because the oline would get the QB killed.

:( Unfortunately... that is a good posting.So much depends on the offensive line... it still amazes me that teams don't do more tot eh offensive line then they do.

 

[Warpig]

galloway is the only bright spot on that wretched offense. he produces no matter what stiff they've put behind center the last few years. to criticize him is :11:

Galloway...the ONLY bright spot? Seems like Hilliard was the man last night. Atleast he caught the balls thrown in his general direction. And he sacrificed his body in taking the hits.Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.Gradkowski isn't the next Peyton...but he may be another Rich Gannon. Maybe those veterans like Galloway should put forth a little extra effort to help the kid out.I'm not just ripping Galloway to do it...sure the guy has had some solid seasons, but from what I gathered from last nights game he's already given up on the year and he just wants to stay healthy and finish the season...no need to go above and beyond since the season is already shot I guess. Just frustrating as a fan to watch that kind of pathetic effort.

 

[JuniorNB]

galloway is the only bright spot on that wretched offense. he produces no matter what stiff they've put behind center the last few years. to criticize him is :11:

Galloway...the ONLY bright spot? Seems like Hilliard was the man last night. Atleast he caught the balls thrown in his general direction. And he sacrificed his body in taking the hits.Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.Gradkowski isn't the next Peyton...but he may be another Rich Gannon. Maybe those veterans like Galloway should put forth a little extra effort to help the kid out.I'm not just ripping Galloway to do it...sure the guy has had some solid seasons, but from what I gathered from last nights game he's already given up on the year and he just wants to stay healthy and finish the season...no need to go above and beyond since the season is already shot I guess. Just frustrating as a fan to watch that kind of pathetic effort.

He had more catches and more yards than Hilliard.

 

[Lauryn]

Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.

you must be watching different games than i do. what color is the sky in your world? (cliche' i know, but it fits here)

 

[hawkeyemba]

galloway is the only bright spot on that wretched offense. he produces no matter what stiff they've put behind center the last few years. to criticize him is :11:

Galloway...the ONLY bright spot? Seems like Hilliard was the man last night. Atleast he caught the balls thrown in his general direction. And he sacrificed his body in taking the hits.Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.Gradkowski isn't the next Peyton...but he may be another Rich Gannon. Maybe those veterans like Galloway should put forth a little extra effort to help the kid out.I'm not just ripping Galloway to do it...sure the guy has had some solid seasons, but from what I gathered from last nights game he's already given up on the year and he just wants to stay healthy and finish the season...no need to go above and beyond since the season is already shot I guess. Just frustrating as a fan to watch that kind of pathetic effort.

I watched the entire game, but I certainly can't say that I thought Galloway was dogging it or giving up on the field. Three plays come to mind...a) The first home-run play where Galloway misses the reception by about a yard where it appeared laying out would have gotten him the ball. I agreed with you when I saw it in live motion, but when they showed the replay, it was clear the ball was well out of reach for Galloway, even on a dive. Bottom line is that Galloway had the defensive backs completely burned and Gradkowski made a poor throw. If Gradkowski makes a better throw, that's six points, no doubt about it.b) The "alligator arms" play where Galloway pulls up when he hears footsteps - it's third and long and it seemed to me that Galloway was at least 3-4 yards from the first down marker with zero chance of getting there once Minter was going to lay a smack on him. Lack of toughness by Galloway? Possibly, but in the end, what would catching the ball have done for the Bucs on that play? 4th and long versus 4th and short? Looks like a punt either way to me...c) The second home-run play where Lucas intercepts the ball - again, Galloway appeared to have at least two steps on the defender when Gradkowski well underthrew the ball right into double coverage. At that point, Galloway comes back and makes a fine attempt to try to jar the ball loose from Lucas on the interception, but Lucas still comes away with it. To me, that definitely wasn't the actions of someone dogging it on the field.Not to mention right after the second home run attempt to Galloway, Gradkowski tries to go back to Clayton on another long ball and overthrows again. Given that Gradkowski is a rookie, but he had a number of opportunities for the home run that were clearly missed. He hits on any of those three attempts and this game turns out much different. In my eyes, it certainly wasn't because Galloway had "given up" on the season.

 

[Ghost Rider]

b) The "alligator arms" play where Galloway pulls up when he hears footsteps - it's third and long and it seemed to me that Galloway was at least 3-4 yards from the first down marker with zero chance of getting there once Minter was going to lay a smack on him. Lack of toughness by Galloway? Possibly, but in the end, what would catching the ball have done for the Bucs on that play? 4th and long versus 4th and short? Looks like a punt either way to me...

That is a terrible way to look at it. Galloway is an NFL WR. His job is to catch the ball. First down or not, he should have easily caught that ball.

 

[Gargoylez]

Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.

you must be watching different games than i do. what color is the sky in your world? (cliche' i know, but it fits here)

I love the fact people just assume any QB anywhere can step in and be amazing. It really is funny. What is this, his 4th start? 5th maybe? On a bad team, with no offensive line and an aging and slow defense.EXACTLY what would be a good showing for you? 20-25 400 yds and 6 TD's? Its not like Big Ben where he could hand off to the RB, then hand off to the RB and then hand off to the RB... and depend on his defense to hold the opponents to 10-13 points.For what BGrad has available, and the position he has been put in, he has done VERY well. He has made mistakes, but far fewer then he probably should have. The Bucs need ALOT of help, and if some of it comes via offense, Bgrad could be a dangerous QB next year.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

No offense Warpig but you're really not making much sense here. It seems obvious that you are bitter at Galloway and that is bliding your ability to be objective. Gradkowski made 2 horrible throws on plays where Galloway was wide open.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

b) The "alligator arms" play where Galloway pulls up when he hears footsteps - it's third and long and it seemed to me that Galloway was at least 3-4 yards from the first down marker with zero chance of getting there once Minter was going to lay a smack on him. Lack of toughness by Galloway? Possibly, but in the end, what would catching the ball have done for the Bucs on that play? 4th and long versus 4th and short? Looks like a punt either way to me...

That is a terrible way to look at it. Galloway is an NFL WR. His job is to catch the ball. First down or not, he should have easily caught that ball.

Not to mention, he gets hit either way.

 

[JuniorNB]

b) The "alligator arms" play where Galloway pulls up when he hears footsteps - it's third and long and it seemed to me that Galloway was at least 3-4 yards from the first down marker with zero chance of getting there once Minter was going to lay a smack on him. Lack of toughness by Galloway? Possibly, but in the end, what would catching the ball have done for the Bucs on that play? 4th and long versus 4th and short? Looks like a punt either way to me...

That is a terrible way to look at it. Galloway is an NFL WR. His job is to catch the ball. First down or not, he should have easily caught that ball.

While I do agree with you on this, Joey Galloway was never known as a "tough guy" receiver who went over the middle and took hits. He is a speedster who can get behind your defensive back four or five times a game. That's it.If you want to call him a ####ie because he short-armed a ball when he may have gotten creamed, fine, but it doesn't change his value one bit.

 

[*****]

Hell, I leave my feet playing in the backyard...and I ain't getting paid millions. Playmakers make plays.

Face it, you are a playmaker. Galloway is not.

 

[Warpig]

No offense Warpig but you're really not making much sense here. It seems obvious that you are bitter at Galloway and that is bliding your ability to be objective. Gradkowski made 2 horrible throws on plays where Galloway was wide open.

I'm not offended at all...just discussing my views.I guess I'm looking as the glass as half full when it comes to BGrad. I'm not contesting that Galloway didn't have more receptions or more yards than any other TB receiver last night. I'm contesting that had he made more effort, the outcome of that game could have been different.Yes, BGrad made some bad throws...but the way I look at it is the WR's were still in a position to make a play on the ball. Not every throw from an NFL qb is gonna be dead on, that's what differentiates good WR's from Great WR's...how they play the ball while in the air.The first over throw to Galloway looked catchable to me. With as fast as Galloway was running had he jumped I think he could have caught it. Yes, it would have been a spectacular catch and I guarantee that would have motivated his team and they score a touchdown there. Big Momentum shifter there.The 3rd and 6 or 7 where he alligatored it...I just didn't see it the way hawkeye did. To me it looked like he was right at the yellow stripe...maybe a yard short. Had he caught that and leaned forward I figure he gets the first down. The other deep throw down the left sideline to Galloway or Jenkins (?) was not perfect but the WR, once again, could have made a play on it and fought for it. Sure the defender made a play on it and was obviously stronger than the WR since he took it from him. It looked like they both had their hands on it at the same time...I could be wrong though.If I were Galloway, I'd feel like I left something on the field and let my team down. He didn't play up to his standards is what I'm saying. And had he done that, the game could have ended differently. Carolina is not a very imposing force and that game could have went either way.

 

[corpcow]

Receivers are taught to run through the ball, if Joey had jumped he likely wouldn't have been as close as he was. He was running fullspeed just to try and get under the thing. As a Bucs fan the one bright spot this season has been Galloway, and I refuse to put him down for not being able to catch up to an awful throw.

I don't know - I watched that over and over last night and it sure looked like he should have caught it. It was pretty well placed.

 

[hawkeyemba]

b) The "alligator arms" play where Galloway pulls up when he hears footsteps - it's third and long and it seemed to me that Galloway was at least 3-4 yards from the first down marker with zero chance of getting there once Minter was going to lay a smack on him. Lack of toughness by Galloway? Possibly, but in the end, what would catching the ball have done for the Bucs on that play? 4th and long versus 4th and short? Looks like a punt either way to me...

That is a terrible way to look at it. Galloway is an NFL WR. His job is to catch the ball. First down or not, he should have easily caught that ball.

I am not attempting to justify what Galloway did or didn't do. My point is making the catch would have done NOTHING to change the result of the next play. There are numerous and much more egregious examples in the NFL of wide receivers taking plays off in critical situations (i.e. Terrell Owens, Randy Moss). We could have a long detailed discussion on what might have been going through Joey's head that solves nothing. My point is that calling Joey Galloway a guy who gave up on a season for that one play is a ridiculous statement.

 

[dickey moe]

Was anyone else impressed by the proud display of Galloway's gray chin hairs?

 

[shakeybarn]

galloway is the only bright spot on that wretched offense. he produces no matter what stiff they've put behind center the last few years. to criticize him is :11:

Galloway...the ONLY bright spot? Seems like Hilliard was the man last night. Atleast he caught the balls thrown in his general direction. And he sacrificed his body in taking the hits.Gradkowski hasn't been better than expected? The guy was a 6th round draft pick and he's played like a veteran for the most part. He is atleast getting the ball to where the WR's can make a play on the ball. Galloway apparently is of the camp to where if the ball isn't in his chest...he doesn't put forth the effort to catch it...even then he'd probably drop it.Gradkowski isn't the next Peyton...but he may be another Rich Gannon. Maybe those veterans like Galloway should put forth a little extra effort to help the kid out.I'm not just ripping Galloway to do it...sure the guy has had some solid seasons, but from what I gathered from last nights game he's already given up on the year and he just wants to stay healthy and finish the season...no need to go above and beyond since the season is already shot I guess. Just frustrating as a fan to watch that kind of pathetic effort.

Get over it, you're clinging to an incorrect notion. He wasn't perfect last night. He's the been the man, was the leading WR last night, and as mentioned numerous times, the LONE bright spot of the Buc offense (though that's not saying much). I think some of it (as Joey even explains) is trade off for shear speed vs adjustments. He ain't Steve Smith.Moreover, Ike Hilliard, Clayton, and A.Smith wouldn't even be able to find themselves in an opportunity that you are griping about.