Joey Porter is the man (1 Viewer)

[DaWidowMaker]

Joey Porter: Tom Brady has his own rules

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 5, 2009 5:42 PM ET

Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter says that as he prepares to face New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady on Sunday, he has to prepare for a particularly difficult challenge: A quarterback who gets protected by a special set of rules.

Asked by Rich Eisen on NFL Network's Around the League whether Brady has a special set of rules to take care of him, Porter went off.

"No question," Porter said. "When a guy can tell a ref when to throw a flag, and he gets it, he's got his own rules. They made the rule that you don't go at the legs for Tom, so when he feels that someone is going at his legs, he just points to the ref and he gets a flag. So I can honestly say that he gets his own rules."

The comments come a day after Porter said he had "a natural hate" for the Patriots. When pressed by Eisen about why he feels that way, Porter said it all goes back to the Patriots' practice of videotaping defensive coaching signals.

"I still don't care for New England," Porter said. "The hate's been there for a while, especially after all the cheating they did back in the day. . . . They can sweep it under the rug if they want to, but just like anybody else that's cheating that gets caught, you put an asterisk by it. But nobody puts an asterisk by those championships they won."

Porter also claimed that when the Dolphins visited New England last year, players and coaches on the Patriots disrupted the Dolphins' pregame warm-ups in violation of league rules.

"Kicking balls while we're stretching, over our heads, out of the end zone that we're stretching in -- certain stuff they did that you can't do, but they did it when we were in New England and somehow they got away with it," Porter said.

Eisen pointed out to Porter that he's been accused of violating some rules himself, having been named the second-dirtiest player in the league in a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players. Porter said it's just a matter of guys he's played against having a personal problem with him.

"That's just the nature of people not liking me," he said. "I would hate me too if I was on the other side."

Truer words have never been spoken....Its amazing the power Brady and the Patriots have over the NFL, not to mention the rule named after him lol. You don't hear a word anymore about "Spygate" as if thats never happened and all of the Patriots Super Bowls are legit. Corruption taking place right in our faces and its a damn shame.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...-his-own-rules/

 

[theglorydays]

Joey Porter: Tom Brady has his own rules

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 5, 2009 5:42 PM ET

Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter says that as he prepares to face New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady on Sunday, he has to prepare for a particularly difficult challenge: A quarterback who gets protected by a special set of rules.

Asked by Rich Eisen on NFL Network's Around the League whether Brady has a special set of rules to take care of him, Porter went off.

"No question," Porter said. "When a guy can tell a ref when to throw a flag, and he gets it, he's got his own rules. They made the rule that you don't go at the legs for Tom, so when he feels that someone is going at his legs, he just points to the ref and he gets a flag. So I can honestly say that he gets his own rules."

The comments come a day after Porter said he had "a natural hate" for the Patriots. When pressed by Eisen about why he feels that way, Porter said it all goes back to the Patriots' practice of videotaping defensive coaching signals.

"I still don't care for New England," Porter said. "The hate's been there for a while, especially after all the cheating they did back in the day. . . . They can sweep it under the rug if they want to, but just like anybody else that's cheating that gets caught, you put an asterisk by it. But nobody puts an asterisk by those championships they won."

Porter also claimed that when the Dolphins visited New England last year, players and coaches on the Patriots disrupted the Dolphins' pregame warm-ups in violation of league rules.

"Kicking balls while we're stretching, over our heads, out of the end zone that we're stretching in -- certain stuff they did that you can't do, but they did it when we were in New England and somehow they got away with it," Porter said.

Eisen pointed out to Porter that he's been accused of violating some rules himself, having been named the second-dirtiest player in the league in a Sports Illustrated poll of NFL players. Porter said it's just a matter of guys he's played against having a personal problem with him.

"That's just the nature of people not liking me," he said. "I would hate me too if I was on the other side."

Truer words have never been spoken....Its amazing the power Brady and the Patriots have over the NFL, not to mention the rule named after him lol. You don't hear a word anymore about "Spygate" as if thats never happened and all of the Patriots Super Bowls are legit. Corruption taking place right in our faces and its a damn shame.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...-his-own-rules/

 

[gcoast3]

It also doesn't help that ESPN also loves the Patriots and is located so close.

It is all about the money.

 

[Horses Mouth]

"I would hate me too if I was on the other side."

 

[DaWidowMaker]

Bump (especially for the Cheatriot fans)

 

[NeverEnough]

I love him

 

[treat88]

It also doesn't help that ESPN also loves the Patriots and is located so close.

It is all about the money.

ESPN loves em so much they actually hired Kraft's company to work for them.http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chro...21/0/0/17336283

Porter is a lot of things. One of them is honest.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think had they won the Super Bowl two years ago, you would still hear a lot about Spygate, but to many, the Giants beating them and depriving them of 19-0 was satisfying enough to where they don't have to dwell on it.

Porter's comments on Brady are gamesmanship, plain and simple. He is planting the seed to where he can say, "See, I told you so," if the Dolphins get flagged this weekend for any ticky-tack hits on Brady.

 

[steelcityman]

Porter was always straight up kinda guy, he called the Colts soft the year the Steelers beat them in the playoffs(played Seattle in the Bowl). People just laughed and called him a loud mouth. Meanwhile the Steelers beat up Manning that day. He didnt like the Pats back then either. Its pretty bad when a player who calls it as he sees it, and then proves it on the field is laughed at and called a loud mouth, while the guy who basically gets calls or cries to the ref is considered "Joe Cool". And I never thought Porter was a dirty player, talkative, yes, but if thats dirty, then the game is going down the tubes.

Hines Ward, dirty? Come on. I guess a lot of Bengals and Ravens voted....he lights them up like Xmas trees!!!

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think had they won the Super Bowl two years ago, you would still hear a lot about Spygate, but to many, the Giants beating them and depriving them of 19-0 was satisfying enough to where they don't have to dwell on it.

Porter's comments on Brady are gamesmanship, plain and simple. He is planting the seed to where he can say, "See, I told you so," if the Dolphins get flagged this weekend for any ticky-tack hits on Brady.

I don't think so. I realize it's easy to misread "tone of voice" in quoted words and I may be off, but it sure sounds like Porter MEANS what he's saying here. I happen to think he's right. I watch a LOT of football and I think there's a different unwritten rule in place for Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and to a MUCH lesser degree - Ben Roethlisberger than the rest of the QB's in the league. Nothing you quantify though. It takes shape in very subtle form. Not even a different rule per se, but the rules of QB protection taken to more of an extreme for them.

 

[BRONG]

I think had they won the Super Bowl two years ago, you would still hear a lot about Spygate, but to many, the Giants beating them and depriving them of 19-0 was satisfying enough to where they don't have to dwell on it.

Porter's comments on Brady are gamesmanship, plain and simple. He is planting the seed to where he can say, "See, I told you so," if the Dolphins get flagged this weekend for any ticky-tack hits on Brady.

:badposting: You couldn't be more wrong. Porter is brutally honest, always has been. People don't like it; most coming from fans of teams he worked. If this had been say, Jack Lambert back in the day, people would love it and say they missed the honesty with today's PR-savvy, self-promoting athletes.In one post, so right, and yet so wrong. That was weird.

 

[jurb26]

Anyone who already hates the Pats will find this as some sort of justification that it is not. Porter is an instigator. Telling it like it is? Come on. Telling it like it is wouldn't be singling out Brady or the Pats for things every QB and team in the NFL has done. At least he was honest about hating the Pats. Then again, that isn't news either. Really nothing to see in that article IMO.

 

[Godsbrother]

Porter is a loud mouth and a love him or hate him kind of guy. However in this case I think he is right. There is no question that some of the roughing the passer calls with Brady have been ridiculous. I don't blame the Brady for that -- the problem is with the NFL and the over zealous officials.

What I do blame the Pats for is the cheating. I was a never a believer in "if you don't get caught then it isn't cheating idea" but apparently Belichick does. And when the Patriots did get caught the punishment they got was laughable. I understand why the NFL needed to quickly make the issue go away but it certainly leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I think had they won the Super Bowl two years ago, you would still hear a lot about Spygate, but to many, the Giants beating them and depriving them of 19-0 was satisfying enough to where they don't have to dwell on it.

Porter's comments on Brady are gamesmanship, plain and simple. He is planting the seed to where he can say, "See, I told you so," if the Dolphins get flagged this weekend for any ticky-tack hits on Brady.

I don't think so. I realize it's easy to misread "tone of voice" in quoted words and I may be off, but it sure sounds like Porter MEANS what he's saying here. I happen to think he's right. I watch a LOT of football and I think there's a different unwritten rule in place for Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and to a MUCH lesser degree - Ben Roethlisberger than the rest of the QB's in the league. Nothing you quantify though. It takes shape in very subtle form. Not even a different rule per se, but the rules of QB protection taken to more of an extreme for them.

I could buy that if there weren't touchy roughing calls against bad QB's, but there are. If you want to rip the NFL, you can say it's ridiculous that they apparently didn't care about Palmer's injury (which btw helped Porter get a ring) but a Brady injury changes how the rules are enforced. Kinda makes Bill Simmons and all the NE homers whining about Bill Polian's whining seem hypocritical at best (not that we didn't already know that).

In the end the league protects its stars, and I guess I can live with that as long as it doesn't get to an NBA level of star-treatment calls, which I don't think it has.

 

[parrot]

Well that seals it. If Joey Porter says it, it must be true. It's not like the guy has spent his whole career being a cheap, self-serving, trash-talking idiot or anything. And his "natural hatred" is surely a product of Spygate and not the times his teams suffered big losses at the hands of the Patriots.

 

[chidoy]

Hines Ward, dirty? Come on. I guess a lot of Bengals and Ravens voted....he lights them up like Xmas trees!!!

 

[Ghost Rider]

You guys are right: Porter is speaking from the heart and saying what he thinks, as he always does, but I still think it is a bit of gamesmanship. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[Bad_Mo]

"No question," Porter said. "When a guy can tell a ref when to throw a flag, and he gets it, he's got his own rules.

Wow...I never knew every single WR in the game today has his own set of rules.Joey :X Porter

 

[belljr]

"I would hate me too if I was on the other side."

But it's so true

 

[Adebisi]

Joey Porter crying about the Patriots is so 2001.

 

[thehornet]

 

[trader jake]

I had no problem with Joey Porter back in the days (including his verbal assaults on anything that crossed his path) but the clip above exposed him for what he is. Football teams aren't made of choir boys but this guy just doesn't get it and never will. He's a talented player but his actions off the field will be his legacy...including whatever situations will no doubt arise after he's out of the league.

 

[FantasyTrader]

In the end the league protects its stars, and I guess I can live with that as long as it doesn't get to an NBA level of star-treatment calls, which I don't think it has.

Agreed. Let's face it, the league is better with the Brady's, Manning's and Roethlisberger's being showcased. I can live with a level of overzealousness by the refs if it keeps them upright.In terms of lesser QB's getting the same calls, we'll agree to disagree. Sure there's instances of every QB getting a call he shouldn't have, as is the case with every player living and breathing in the NFL. Again, I'm only talking about shades of gray here. There's very few QB's that, like Brady, could point to the ref well, WEEEEELL after the play is over and get a flag solely and obviously for no other fact than he wanted one.

 

[FantasyTrader]

 

[Ghost Rider]

Joey Porter crying about the Patriots is so 2001.

The Patriots cheating is also so 2001. And 2002.

And 2003.

And...

 

[Bad_Mo]

Joey Porter crying about the Patriots is so 2001.

The Patriots cheating is also so 2001. And 2002.

And 2003.

And...

Apparently the Broncos owner wanted to get in on the action by hiring McDaniels.And how many McDaniels nuthuggers do we have now?

 

[dansav]

Listen, I totally get the part where Joey Porter says he hates the Patriots. It goes without saying that the nail has no love for the hammer. I mean, how much can you like someone who’s beaten on you time and time again? Porter’s feelings toward the Pats are pretty much what George McFly’s were toward Biff Tannen or Ralphie Parker’s were toward Scut Farkas. But he’s deluding himself if he thinks the feelings are mutual. I’d be surprised if anyone in the Pats organization even remembers Porter was even on those Pittsburgh teams the Pats beat on the road in the AFCCGs. Of course everyone remembers Troy Brown’s lateral for a TD off a blocked FG in 2002. And Eugene Wilson picking off Roethlisberger twice in 2005. But Porter? I bet every member of the Pats organization would have to check the box score to make sure he was even on the Steelers roster back then. But good for him. He’s proud of the Dolphins epic, unforgettable AFC East championship last year. The one where they won the same number of games as the Pats who had a high school quarterback. And I’m sure he still gets the tingles remembering the way they lost like “champs” to Baltimore 27-9 in the playoffs. And it’s good that he’s woofing now with his team 3-4. Because if Joey Porter wasn’t being a microphone grabbing attention whore, how would anyone remember he’s there?

-El Pres (Barstool Sports)

 

[Casting Couch]

Well that seals it. If Joey Porter says it, it must be true. It's not like the guy has spent his whole career being a cheap, self-serving, trash-talking idiot or anything. And his "natural hatred" is surely a product of Spygate and not the times his teams suffered big losses at the hands of the Patriots.

Porter doesn't get it and never will.Patriot players have had zero comment on his rant because they operate on another level.This psycho-babble will be bulletin board fodder for the Patriots as they wipe the field with the carcus that once was Joey Porter.

 

[Tenacious]

Anyone who already hates the Pats will find this as some sort of justification that it is not. Porter is an instigator. Telling it like it is? Come on. Telling it like it is wouldn't be singling out Brady or the Pats for things every QB and team in the NFL has done. At least he was honest about hating the Pats. Then again, that isn't news either. Really nothing to see in that article IMO.

 

[Tenacious]

Well that seals it. If Joey Porter says it, it must be true. It's not like the guy has spent his whole career being a cheap, self-serving, trash-talking idiot or anything. And his "natural hatred" is surely a product of Spygate and not the times his teams suffered big losses at the hands of the Patriots.

 

[Casting Couch]

Anyone who already hates the Pats will find this as some sort of justification that it is not. Porter is an instigator. Telling it like it is? Come on. Telling it like it is wouldn't be singling out Brady or the Pats for things every QB and team in the NFL has done. At least he was honest about hating the Pats. Then again, that isn't news either. Really nothing to see in that article IMO.

 

[Casting Couch]

Well that seals it. If Joey Porter says it, it must be true. It's not like the guy has spent his whole career being a cheap, self-serving, trash-talking idiot or anything. And his "natural hatred" is surely a product of Spygate and not the times his teams suffered big losses at the hands of the Patriots.

 

[saintfool]

and jerry porter is just some guy?! hell, no, i say....

 

[two_dollars]

I can honestly say that the play Porter is refrencing, where Brady asked for a flag and got it...

... the flag would have never been thrown had Rex Grossman asked for it while he was in Chicago.

So yes, he's right, Brady gets his own rules.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Expect Tom Terrific to come out onto the field passing at the beginning of the 2nd half when the score is already 67-3.

 

[notdarkyet]

Joey Porter is a ########, but he is right on this.

 

[NeverEnough]

In the end the league protects its stars, and I guess I can live with that as long as it doesn't get to an NBA level of star-treatment calls, which I don't think it has.

Agreed. Let's face it, the league is better with the Brady's, Manning's and Roethlisberger's being showcased. I can live with a level of overzealousness by the refs if it keeps them upright.

:badpost:I don't want anyone to get hurt, but football is a CONTACT sport for ALL positions.It has been turned into a game for pansies.This crap & the taking away of TD celebrations =

 

[BRONG]

Just saw the video. Anybody that still thinks it was some kind of ploy or whatever is off their rocker. He's sitting down, answering questions, giving his opinion, candidly. He's always been like this. And what he is saying isn't outlandish or unfounded, many people think the same. It's just uncommon is all, to come out and say it, especially nowadays.

Obviously I liked it, but that's me, I have some bias. Who else is out there calling out the Patriots for stuff they actually do, or have done? Nobody, because they're afraid to, basically. You don't have to like him, fine, but being mad at him for stating his opinion, or being outspoken, is silly. What's the point?

 

[Koya]

While you have to respect the team's accomplishments, you don't have to respect the team.

And it's tough to respect the Pats. Between the cheating, the antics, the score running, the lack of respect for opponents, the lack of respect for the integrity of the game - and while Brady might have the all american good guy look, he is as much a part of it as anyone (well, outside BB). It's a smugness that demeans the very accomplishments they have made.

Which is a shame. As that team should be celebrated simply as one of the best ever and not one of the best ever, but not worthy of overall respect.

 

[Koya]

PS - NOTHING in my sport viewing life has approached denying the non deserving Pats an eternal undefeated season. Ill smile at that 30 years down the road. Because while the Pats on the field accomplishments (taking away all they do to deserve disrespect outside of their wins) are impressive, that defeat denies them so much in terms of history that they will never get back.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Nothing today from Joey Porter/Dolphins fans? Nothing? Where's DuhWidowmaker today?

And for the record, whomever said "Why doesn't anyone call New England out for their past transgressions", I say ESPN down? Footballguys down? Seems like that's all we hear.

 

[TommyGilmore]

I thought it was funny that Henne was able to get the kind of borderline roughing-the-passer call that Brady always gets.

 

[Gatorman]

Nothing today from Joey Porter/Dolphins fans? Nothing?And for the record, whomever said "Why doesn't anyone call New England out for their past transgressions", I say ESPN down? Footballguys down? Seems like that's all we hear.

As a dolphin fan, here is what I say: Good Game new england. You are still the better team, but perhaps for not that much longer.This dolphin team is soooo close to being really good it is scary. A WR that can catch and forces defenses to respect him and we are likely there. Put Ochocinco or Boldin on this team and we may have 3 more victories. While no one outside of Revis can contain moss for a whole game, I think that Davis gave moss all he could handle (other than the crossing route, but jesus, how many crossing routes does New england run that no one has figured out how to defend this). Good game new england. Well played. (BTW, on the hits brady took this game after the ball was released I only saw 2 times where he whined for a flag. Then again, I think we only got near him 8 times or so all game)

 

[Itchy Amos]

Just saw the video. Anybody that still thinks it was some kind of ploy or whatever is off their rocker. He's sitting down, answering questions, giving his opinion, candidly. He's always been like this. And what he is saying isn't outlandish or unfounded, many people think the same. It's just uncommon is all, to come out and say it, especially nowadays.

Obviously I liked it, but that's me, I have some bias. Who else is out there calling out the Patriots for stuff they actually do, or have done? Nobody, because they're afraid to, basically. You don't have to like him, fine, but being mad at him for stating his opinion, or being outspoken, is silly. What's the point?

Wow, this is an epically bad posting. As a Patriots fan, its all I heard for the better part of 2 years. Spygate completely took over the 2007 season. People dont mention it as much anymore because it was beaten to death. There is nothing more to say that hasnt already been said about it. At some point, you have to move on.

 

[parrot]

I thought it was funny that Henne was able to get the kind of borderline roughing-the-passer call that Brady always gets.

Kinda like when Edwards got them, and Flacco got them, and Sanchez got them. It's almost like they're calling borderline calls on lots of different QBs and not just Tom Brady.

 

[treat88]

Just saw the video. Anybody that still thinks it was some kind of ploy or whatever is off their rocker. He's sitting down, answering questions, giving his opinion, candidly. He's always been like this. And what he is saying isn't outlandish or unfounded, many people think the same. It's just uncommon is all, to come out and say it, especially nowadays.

Obviously I liked it, but that's me, I have some bias. Who else is out there calling out the Patriots for stuff they actually do, or have done? Nobody, because they're afraid to, basically. You don't have to like him, fine, but being mad at him for stating his opinion, or being outspoken, is silly. What's the point?

Wow, this is an epically bad posting. As a Patriots fan, its all I heard for the better part of 2 years. Spygate completely took over the 2007 season. People dont mention it as much anymore because it was beaten to death. There is nothing more to say that hasnt already been said about it. At some point, you have to move on.

I'm not saying this in a negative context, but rather a factual one.As long as NE is a successful franchise and/or Brady and Belichick are in the league it will always be there.

Those events generated very strong emotions on both sides of the issue and won't go away until the parties involved have moved on or the team becomes irrelevant.

 

[thehornet]

Hi Joey. You lost. Again.

 

[Itchy Amos]

Just saw the video. Anybody that still thinks it was some kind of ploy or whatever is off their rocker. He's sitting down, answering questions, giving his opinion, candidly. He's always been like this. And what he is saying isn't outlandish or unfounded, many people think the same. It's just uncommon is all, to come out and say it, especially nowadays.

Obviously I liked it, but that's me, I have some bias. Who else is out there calling out the Patriots for stuff they actually do, or have done? Nobody, because they're afraid to, basically. You don't have to like him, fine, but being mad at him for stating his opinion, or being outspoken, is silly. What's the point?

Wow, this is an epically bad posting. As a Patriots fan, its all I heard for the better part of 2 years. Spygate completely took over the 2007 season. People dont mention it as much anymore because it was beaten to death. There is nothing more to say that hasnt already been said about it. At some point, you have to move on.

I'm not saying this in a negative context, but rather a factual one.As long as NE is a successful franchise and/or Brady and Belichick are in the league it will always be there.

Those events generated very strong emotions on both sides of the issue and won't go away until the parties involved have moved on or the team becomes irrelevant.

Generally speaking, I think you're right. As a fan, I can understand why people constantly bring it up. I get it. If another team had been caught, I would enjoy rubbing it in a little with their fans too. My only point was that you would need to have been living under a rock for the past couple of years if you think that "nobody calls out the Patriots for stuff they...have done."

 

[Bad_Mo]

Has Joey taken a page out of Ochocinco's book and changed his name?

I searched through the Boxscore for the NE/MIA game and couldn't find "J. Porter" or anything close to that.

Did he get injured in warmups or something?

 

[Black&Gold]

Listen, I totally get the part where Joey Porter says he hates the Patriots. It goes without saying that the nail has no love for the hammer. I mean, how much can you like someone who’s beaten on you time and time again? Porter’s feelings toward the Pats are pretty much what George McFly’s were toward Biff Tannen or Ralphie Parker’s were toward Scut Farkas. But he’s deluding himself if he thinks the feelings are mutual. I’d be surprised if anyone in the Pats organization even remembers Porter was even on those Pittsburgh teams the Pats beat on the road in the AFCCGs. Of course everyone remembers Troy Brown’s lateral for a TD off a blocked FG in 2002. And Eugene Wilson picking off Roethlisberger twice in 2005. But Porter? I bet every member of the Pats organization would have to check the box score to make sure he was even on the Steelers roster back then. But good for him. He’s proud of the Dolphins epic, unforgettable AFC East championship last year. The one where they won the same number of games as the Pats who had a high school quarterback. And I’m sure he still gets the tingles remembering the way they lost like “champs” to Baltimore 27-9 in the playoffs. And it’s good that he’s woofing now with his team 3-4. Because if Joey Porter wasn’t being a microphone grabbing attention whore, how would anyone remember he’s there?-El Pres (Barstool Sports)

Just count the rings. Joey is great. He just got too expensive in Steel Town.