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John Fox "we're gonna stick with Delhomme till next week&quo (1 Viewer)
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sheerterror
Footballguy
I don't think you could really blame Delhomme for that last INT. As someone said in the game thread, it was perfectly played by Sheppard, the ball was placed exactly where it was supposed to be on that route. Can you really pin this loss on the QB?
kevjones22
Footballguy
you can if you want to deflect blame
1st down an goal on the 7 with 28 seconds left (plenty of time to run 3 plays and kick a field goal if you don't score a touchdown) You can not throw the ball where the defender has a chance to get his hands on it. Throw the ball away and try again on second down. Then again on third down if you have to. Yes I can put partial blame on the QB.
No I am not deflecting the blame. It was a bad decision by Delhomme as well as a bad route and mistimed jump by Keyshawn.
Onions
Footballguy
That play calls for Delhomme to take a quick drop and throw to a spot. Not really a "decision".
sheerterror
Footballguy
Nor was it necessarily a mistimed jump. Sheppard's jam slowed Johnson down just enough to make sure he wasn't where he was supposed to be after the ball was thrown.
You are correct. technically then, it was pass interference because the ball was in the air when that bump happened. It was just a soft enough bump that it wasn't called.Well OK then. I guess I don't like calling a timing pattern on first down when a field goal ties it for you. It seems like a low percentage play call when you have 3 tries at it before you have to kick the field goal. 28 seconds is plenty of time to run 3 pass plays to the endzone.
The Panthers love to throw that fade to their tall WRs in that position. The Eagles blitzed right into Delhomme's line of sight and the CB jammed Key pretty good. The coaches need to take the blame for calling such a ridiculous play considering how well they were running the ball to get down into the red zone. They had 2 T.O.s left. Blame Fox, not Delhomme
mr. furley
Footballguy
why doesn't anyone ever give credit to players for making good plays??
it's always someone elses fault. Delhomme made a bad decision, Keyshawn mis-timed his jump, the OC called the wrong play... how about the DB made a great play?
it's always someone elses fault. Delhomme made a bad decision, Keyshawn mis-timed his jump, the OC called the wrong play... how about the DB made a great play?
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I have yet to see the quick slant stopped when throwing it to Steve Smith. That's their main problem. They have the best WR in the league and they don't use him nearly enough! I blame Fox.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
Delhomme did not make a bad decision. That is how the "fade" pass is suppose to be thrown. The Eagle DB outplayed Keyshawn and took the ball away. Keyshawn never got to where he was suppose to be and never got air born. The WR needs to be physical enough to fight off the DB and get the proper positioning (it is sort of like boxing out in basketball). Keyshawn is usually pretty successful in that situation as he was earlier in the game on another TD fade pass, however, he was outplayed on this one.p.s. I also would have thrown that pass to Steve Smith. Key's one weakness on these plays is that he will try to turn contact into a flag. Yes, there was some contact (one can debate whether it was incidental or should have been a flag), but Smith's motor is running so hard he will continue his pursuit or flight path towards the ball at all costs even if he is bumped in the process.
Traders2001
Footballguy
Doesnt matter , Delhomme played poorly aniways , and i would go with Weinke.
Banger
Footballguy
Weinke is not the answer.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Yes he is the answer. It all just depends on the question...Q: Which Carolina QB is likely to secure the highest draft pick for the Panthers in next spring's draft if he started their remaining games?
Doug B
Footballguy
Here's a Saints fan telling you that's crazy talk. Sure, I'm positive from my end that the Panthers won't catch the Saints. But from where you're sittting, the Panthers only need to make up one game on the Saints to play for the division on New Year's Eve. And you guys have a history of kicking the Saints' *** in season-ending games. How can Panthers' fans be thinking the season is over?
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simey
Footballguy
I don't want Weinke. Delhomme is better. They had two TO's left. I think they should have tried to run the ball in once, and then try a throw. If neither worked, kick the fieldgoal to tie it. The OC's playcalling has bothered me more than Delhomme's bad decision making. Some of those bad decisions were from what he was told to do, some were not. Overall, Jake did not have a terrible game last night.
simey
Footballguy
I don't know any that are.
T Man
Footballguy
Panther fans are calling for Jake's head, and I don't get it.In four years as a starter, this guy leads the Panthers to the SuperBowl one year and the NFC Championship game in another. SUre he has flaws, but seriously . . . . Weinke.Delhomme has always been a bit of a gunslinger. He has never been a precise passer. Why expect it now??He is, however, the best thing the Panthers have. He did not play poorly last night. The last interception was a poor play call, the throw was not that bad. The problem is they ran the exact same play for the touchdown from the 1 yard line. Jim Johnson warned the CBs about it and they played it well. With TOs left, run a draw play. DeAngelo was having a great game. Heck one of the criticisms of Delhomme was that he got outplayed by Jeff Garcia. Is that his fault? How is the D getting off so easy. This was a team loss. No doubt about it. But I still see the Panthers in the playoffs -- unless they make a switch at QB. So Panther fans, better start showing a little more love to the Cajun.
Doug B
Footballguy
Maybe Mungo ... not sure who he pulls for. I assumed it was Carolina.
Pretty sure Mungo was just joking that the season would be over if Weinke was starting the remaining games.
mr. furley
Footballguy
Carolina's line played like #### and they barely tried to involve Steve Smith in the game plan. they had basically no running game in the first half..guy went 22-37 for 269 yds and 3 td's. poor coaching decision to give Steve Smith (the best player on the field) FIVE touches all nite long. that's just terrible. when they needed plays they were throwing checkdowns and passes to the TE. that's just not going to get it done.Philadelphia was TERRIBLE for 30 minutes. horrible. Carolina didn't put em away because, imo, they didn't get the ball to their playmaker.
PsychoMan
Footballguy
Delhomme's a stud. Keyshawn great too. Besides, didn't a fade to Keyshawn earlier in the game work perfectly for a score?It was a great play by the defender (even if he got away with a little interference) and he deserves credit. I wouldn't take any away from Carolina on that one. They played a good game.
Banger
Footballguy
or if the question was who is the oldest qb to be drafted? Wasn't he like 28 or something?
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Delhomme has some gunslinger in him, and he makes some bad, bad choices. I would like to see how many of his picks are in the end zone - seems like a bunch. Still, he is their best QB - by far.
Futility
Footballguy
I don't have that stat, but Delhomme had never thrown a pick inside the 10 yard line until a few weeks ago. Ever.
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