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John Mayer - The Search for Everything (1 Viewer)

PIK95 said:
Who was better?
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Off the top of my head (there are probably a couple others):

Stevie Ray Vaughan

Eddie Van Halen

Al Dimeola

Jack White

Slash

Billy Gibbons

Buckethead

Joe Satriani

Michael Hedges

Kenny Wayne Shepherd

Edited to remove Carlos Santana.

 
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Ilov80s said:
top 5 most Detroit dudes to ever live, we different up here sometimes 
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That guy is Detroit. Which says something when you're Motown. I remember when he was a whippersnapper, actually, cutting his ####### records on his toenails. Loved him then, love him now. 

Yow! So much better than Mayer, if John will excuse me for Jack.  

 
Ilov80s said:
And he was only the 2nd coolest Detroit artist at the time.  

Also you ever see Jack show the Edge and Page how to play7 Nation Army?
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Yes to both. Not just to be agreeable, but I think I've started a thread here about Detroit being the best music city in America. And I won't apologize. The Stooges. The MC5. The White Stripes. For the rock. Motown. For the soul.

Eminem is a crime because he hasn't been drafted in our music drafts, and I was just thinking about how to fit him in.  

What you got better?  

Nothing. Detroit is Detroit Rock City.  

 
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rockaction said:
Yes to both. Not just to be agreeable, but I think I've started a thread here about Detroit being the best music city in America. And I won't apologize. The Stooges. The MC5. The White Stripes. For the rock Motown. For the soul.

Eminem is a crime because he hasn't been drafted in our music drafts, and I was just thinking about how to fit him in.  

What you got better?  

Nothing. Detroit is Detroit Rock City.  
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Em doesn't hold up too well, but you can't even attempt to quantify how huge he was in Michigan. Also your post leaves out that Detroit is the birthplace of techno which actually might be the biggest innovation in music in the last couple decades. In 100 years Derrick May may be more famous than Marshall Mathers. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Em doesn't hold up too well, but you can't even attempt to quantify how huge he was in Michigan. Also your post leaves out that Detroit is the birthplace of techno which actually might be the biggest innovation in music in the last couple decades. In 100 years Derrick May may be more famous than Marshall Mathers. 
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Em holds up fine if you listen to his freestyles. They're still incredible. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7iRH1HpwxE

But techno? DIdn't even know about Derrick May but I thought that was Euro and Moby in NY/CT...Wikipedia says otherwise, but it's a wiki.  

wow. Detroit.   

 
rockaction said:
Em holds up fine if you listen to his freestyles. They're still incredible. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7iRH1HpwxE

But techno? DIdn't even know about Derrick May but I thought that was Euro and Moby in NY/CT...Wikipedia says otherwise, but it's a wiki.  

wow. Detroit.   
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Don't mean to say Em doesn't hold up (even though I did). He's the best battle rapper and just behind Big L as the best free styler. I just meant some of the "kill my wife" type songs don't stand up, but the big hits like "Lose Yourself" are eternal (7 Nation Army too). Also, yeah techno was born in Detroit. That whole genre and the raves and all that started in the late 80s and continued into my life as a late teen in the late 90s. After my semi punk/ska phase, the high school soundtrack was Eminem, techno, Wu-Tang and weed. 

"heave a kid in a sinkhole on cinco de mayo when i'm sprinkled in pico de gallo"

 
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rockaction said:
Yes to both. Not just to be agreeable, but I think I've started a thread here about Detroit being the best music city in America. And I won't apologize. The Stooges. The MC5. The White Stripes. For the rock. Motown. For the soul.

Eminem is a crime because he hasn't been drafted in our music drafts, and I was just thinking about how to fit him in.  

What you got better?  

Nothing. Detroit is Detroit Rock City.  
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NYC, SF, LA, Memphis and New Orleans are all better music cities

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
NYC, SF, LA, Memphis and New Orleans are all better music cities
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As usual, declaratory statements with no backing. Tell me why SF is in even the same sentence with Detroit other than a famous club and jam band from the '60s. 

We've got Motown up in here. Are you kidding?  

 
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rockaction said:
As usual, declamatory statements with no backing. Tell me why SF is in even the same sentence with Detroit other than a famous club and jam band from the '60s. 

We've got Motown up in here. Are you kidding?  
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The Grateful Dead are a jam band from the 60s, huh. Come on man, they are one of the most influentual bands of all time. You can add in Jefferson Airplane, Santana, Metallica, Stevie Nicks, The Doobie Brothers, Primus, Sly and the Family Stone, Janis Joplin, Digital Underground, Tupac and a host of others. Yeah, I'm using the Bay Area when discussing SF but not doing is is like saying Boston can't claim Aerosmith because Joe Perry grew up in Lawrence and lived in Cambridge.

While Detroit may claim to have been the birth of techno, the electronica scene in San Francisco since the early 90s has been vastly superior.

I can write more but that is easily enough to place it above Detroit.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
The Grateful Dead are a jam band from the 60s, huh. Come on man, they are one of the most influentual bands of all time. You can add in Jefferson Airplane, Santana, Metallica, Stevie Nicks, The Doobie Brothers, Primus, Sly and the Family Stone, Janis Joplin, Digital Underground, Tupac and a host of others. Yeah, I'm using the Bay Area when discussing SF but not doing is is like saying Boston can't claim Aerosmith because Joe Perry grew up in Lawrence and lived in Cambridge.

While Detroit may claim to have been the birth of techno, the electronica scene in San Francisco since the early 90s has been vastly superior.

I can write more but that is easily enough to place it above Detroit.
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Motown. The City is nicknamed after it. It begins and ends there. You list bands. I list an institution of copyright law. Trump card.  

 
rockaction said:
Motown. The City is nicknamed after it. It begins and ends there. You list bands. I list an institution of copyright law. Trump card.  
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Listen to a lot of soul music, do ya?

The Dead are an institution as well, they created a genre of music that thrives today. I feel no need to denigrate Detroit and its place in music history although I'm not a big soul music fan but SF is a better music city IMO. Your opinion may differ and that is fine but I find that folks typically say they have a Trump card it is because they have run out of further arguments in their favor.

 
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Baloney Sandwich said:
Listen to a lot of soul music, do ya?

The Dead are an institution as well, they created a genre of music that thrives today. I feel no need to denigrate Detroit and its place in music history although I'm not a big soul music fan but SF is a better music city IMO. Your opinion may differ and that is fine but I find that typically say they have a Trump card it is because they have run out of further arguments in their favor.
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I'm just kidding, too. Would never subjugate music to argument. I love wherever it comes from, and that's no joke. We missed Nashville as a great city, shame on us.  

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Listen to a lot of soul music, do ya?

The Dead are an institution as well, they created a genre of music that thrives today. I feel no need to denigrate Detroit and its place in music history although I'm not a big soul music fan but SF is a better music city IMO. Your opinion may differ and that is fine but I find that folks typically say they have a Trump card it is because they have run out of further arguments in their favor.
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I don't really consider Motown as soul, that's really ignoring so much of what it was. Also, Motown's importance in terms of racial history and progress in America is unmatched. 

You want pure soul, that's Aretha. Probably the best vocalist of the century. A little guy named Michael Jackson came up through here as well. He had a pretty big career. If he wasn't the biggest star of the 80s then it was only because he was outshined by another Detroit area star-Madonna. 

Did rock mention Iggy and the Stooges who along with the MC5 helped lay the groundwork for punk and the garage rock sound of the aughts. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I don't really consider Motown as soul, that's really ignoring so much of what it was. Also, Motown's importance in terms of racial history and progress in America is unmatched. 

You want pure soul, that's Aretha. Probably the best vocalist of the century. A little guy named Michael Jackson came up through here as well. He had a pretty big career. If he wasn't the biggest star of the 80s then it was only because he was outshined by another Detroit area star-Madonna. 

Did rock mention Iggy and the Stooges who along with the MC5 helped lay the groundwork for punk and the garage rock sound of the aughts. 
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Yes, I certainly mentioned the Stooges. I'm just teasing BS, anyway. No need to dickpiss about localities. They're...

Great!  

 
Ilov80s said:
I don't really consider Motown as soul, that's really ignoring so much of what it was. Also, Motown's importance in terms of racial history and progress in America is unmatched. 

You want pure soul, that's Aretha. Probably the best vocalist of the century. A little guy named Michael Jackson came up through here as well. He had a pretty big career. If he wasn't the biggest star of the 80s then it was only because he was outshined by another Detroit area star-Madonna. 

Did rock mention Iggy and the Stooges who along with the MC5 helped lay the groundwork for punk and the garage rock sound of the aughts. 
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Anyone who loved the 80s is highly suspect

 
32 Counter Pass said:
Can some explain what the hell this means (asks the old guy):

""I am a very…I'm just very. V-E-R-Y," Mayer said. "And if you can't handle very, then I'm a ##### bag. But I think the world needs a little very. That's why black people love me.""
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Sure. He's a giant ######## that doesn't know it. Not unlike some internet commenters. 

Like me.

 
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