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Jon Beason CAR LB (1 Viewer)

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What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?

Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :thumbdown:

 
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8th? Wow. We're LB whores :boxing: in my league and he went #3. I have read they exoect him to compete for WLB if Morgan plays(MLB if he doesn't), but will be named the starter?

 
The scoring is unique, slightly favors DL & DB. About being named the starter I think very few rookies are right off the bat, but I don't think anybody expects Digiorgio to actually start at MLB for the Bills for example.

 
What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :o
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
 
What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :shrug:
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
 
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What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :lmao:
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
I would absolutely take Beason in that situation. I would not be surprised if he turns out to be your best LB - this year! Your RB choices are projections, and most likely guys that will sit on their (and your) bench.
 
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
Scoring system and lineup matters to some extent here. An ability to start 3 RB and 2 LB would change things some, as would PPR on offense and minimal scoring for IDPs.In general, though, while others would disagree, I'd take the player with the highest upside at his given position even if it's a defensive player. I don't see Booker (who is a much better option than the other three) as more likely to have top 10-15 upside -- unless you think he's MJD Part Deux with Ronnie Brown around -- than Beason.I'd take Beason.
 
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
Scoring system and lineup matters to some extent here. An ability to start 3 RB and 2 LB would change things some, as would PPR on offense and minimal scoring for IDPs.In general, though, while others would disagree, I'd take the player with the highest upside at his given position even if it's a defensive player. I don't see Booker (who is a much better option than the other three) as more likely to have top 10-15 upside -- unless you think he's MJD Part Deux with Ronnie Brown around -- than Beason.I'd take Beason.
Thanks, you and alq have been a big help. Im hoping Booker is tehre at next pick anyway, but i took beason.
 
What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?

Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :lmao:
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.

Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?

I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
I would need to know your scoring system and I would need to know whether Willis and Poz were already off the board. If the scoring system was similar to Zealots, I would have taken Irons there. I think there was a chance that Beason would have lasted to 3.02.
 
I would need to know your scoring system and I would need to know whether Willis and Poz were already off the board. If the scoring system was similar to Zealots, I would have taken Irons there. I think there was a chance that Beason would have lasted to 3.02.
FWIW, Beason went at 3.09 in Z4 and 2.04 in Z31. He was the third LB off the board in both cases. Irons also went before him and Poz in both cases.
 
What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?

Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :wall:
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.

Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?

I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
I would need to know your scoring system and I would need to know whether Willis and Poz were already off the board. If the scoring system was similar to Zealots, I would have taken Irons there. I think there was a chance that Beason would have lasted to 3.02.
Willis and Pos were allready gone. I dont know what Zealots scoring is, heres what im working with though for reference. I was also considering that if Irons or Booker were gone by my 2.15 pick, i could still probably get Bradshaw, Wolfe, or Brian Leonard at my 3.12, 4.02, or 4.05. I did a lot of trading so I have multiple scattered picks. only 9 RB were ranked higher than Demeco Ryans in this league last year. Then a bunch of LB start showing up on the scoring rankings. RB drfted are AD 1.1, Lynch 1.3, Jackson 1.5, Henry 1.13, Bush 1.15, Hunt 2.3. With Hunt going so early to one of the teams that still needed a RB and the Rudi and Ronnie Brown owners both passing on Booker and Irons in the 2nd round, leads me to believe I may luck out. Willis went 1.8, Pos 1.10. I do not think Beason would stand any chance of being there at 2.15. Id still have taken Beason though I think.

RB scoring

Number of Passing TDs 0-99 6 points each

Passing Yards -50-299 1 point for every 25

Passing Yards 300-999 15 points for 300, and then 1 point for every 25 thereafter

Passing 2 Pointers 0-99 1 point each

Number of Rushing TDs 0-99 6 points each

Length of Rushing TD 50-70 2

Length of Rushing TD 71-110 4

Rushing Yards -50-99 1 point for every 10

Rushing Yards 100-199 15 points for 100, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Rushing Yards 200-999 27 points for 200, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Rushing 2 Pointers 0-199 1 point each

Number of Receiving TDs 0-99 6 points each

Receiving Yards -50-99 1 point for every 10

Receiving Yards 100-199 15 points for 100, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Receiving Yards 200-999 27 points for 200, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Receptions 0-99 1 point for every 2

Receiving 2 Pointers 0-99 1 point each

Number of Punt Return TDs 0-99 6 points each

Number of Kickoff Return TDs 0-99 6 points each

Fumbles Lost on Offense 0-99 -2 points each

Defense Scoring

Number of Punt Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Number of Kickoff Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Number of Defensive Fumble Recovery TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 0-99 3 points each Test

Forced Fumbles 0-99 1 point each Test

Number of Interception Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Interceptions Caught 0-99 5 points each Test

Passes Defensed 0-99 1 point each Test

Number of Blocked Field Goal TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Blocked Field Goals 0-99 2 points each Test

Blocked Extra Points 0-99 1 point each Test

Defensive Tackles 0-99 1.45 points each Test

Assists 0-99 0.5 points each Test

Sacked a QB .5-2.5 4 points each Test

Sacked a QB 3-99 5 points each Test

Safeties 0-99 3 points each Test

 
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I would need to know your scoring system and I would need to know whether Willis and Poz were already off the board. If the scoring system was similar to Zealots, I would have taken Irons there. I think there was a chance that Beason would have lasted to 3.02.
FWIW, Beason went at 3.09 in Z4 and 2.04 in Z31. He was the third LB off the board in both cases. Irons also went before him and Poz in both cases.
:thumbup: FWIW - In the Gamebreakers league (high IDP scoring, start full 11 IDPs and 4 LBs),

1.09 - Willlis

1.10 - Poz

1.11 - Beason

 
FWIW - In the Gamebreakers league (high IDP scoring, start full 11 IDPs and 4 LBs), 1.09 - Willlis1.10 - Poz1.11 - Beason
Well what to do after the big three of Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch?I agree with Barry Jive that LBs should be picked often and early in an IDP heavy leagues. I would even go so far as to say that I'd be more than willing to pick PP and Willis at 1.04. and 1.05. and possibly Beason after that before WR's like Meachem, Bowe, Jarrett and Rice in such a league (and IDP heavy leagues are really the only ones that can make me care these days). I view Jarrett and Rice as the ones most likely to have early success and I hate spending on WR's that aren't named Calvin Johnson (or have undenaiable ability such as he has) - too little return on the money spent (and if you're playing with a cap ties up to much).Others to be considered - maybe Russell as said above? I'm a bit hesitant towards Brady Quinn still and wouldn't want to spend more than a late first-rounder.All in all this draft sucks overall and even more so for FF. Deepest position is DE and those can be picked late or had for cheap in auctions in almost any format. I think there will be a lot of money spent for no return from the middle to late round one until late round two!One better do ones homework this year... :unsure:
 
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What can you tell us about him ? Any news from Carolina ? Is he your #1 assuming Morgan goes down, or can he be an instant FF starter from the WLB position ?

Just picked him up in a rookie draft with the 23rd pick, 8th IDP rookie off the board :clap:
Nothing has changed since the draft. For now, he's the WLB. But he was drafted with the MLB role clearly in mind. I think he'll outproduce Pos/Willis/Harris/Timmons from that spot, hence the ranking. It's closer than last year's Ryans over Hawk/Sims ranking, though, as all five could have top 20 numbers if their scenarios fall correctly.
Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.Dont mean to hijack, im up to pick at 2.02 in a dynasty league. MY LB are ok (Scott, Briggs, Demorrio Williams, Thomas Davis, Crowder) , my RBs Mcgahee, mike anderson, Lendale White, Tatum Bell.

Now, the two players im targetting at this point is Beason and Lorenzo Booker since Chris Henry got drafted allready. LBs and RBs score high points in my league. Does anyone think its worth taking a guy like Beason over a real good RB in a decent situation like Booker, Irons, Hunt or Wolfe? I dont know enough about Beason I guess. So is Beason better than any of those 2nd tier RB?

I posted this in the assistant coach forum, i really wasnt sure which it applied to, I was kind of asking general info on Beason in relation to other rookies, so I posted there though too sorry.
I would need to know your scoring system and I would need to know whether Willis and Poz were already off the board. If the scoring system was similar to Zealots, I would have taken Irons there. I think there was a chance that Beason would have lasted to 3.02.
Willis and Pos were allready gone. I dont know what Zealots scoring is, heres what im working with though for reference. I was also considering that if Irons or Booker were gone by my 2.15 pick, i could still probably get Bradshaw, Wolfe, or Brian Leonard at my 3.12, 4.02, or 4.05. I did a lot of trading so I have multiple scattered picks. only 9 RB were ranked higher than Demeco Ryans in this league last year. Then a bunch of LB start showing up on the scoring rankings. RB drfted are AD 1.1, Lynch 1.3, Jackson 1.5, Henry 1.13, Bush 1.15, Hunt 2.3. With Hunt going so early to one of the teams that still needed a RB and the Rudi and Ronnie Brown owners both passing on Booker and Irons in the 2nd round, leads me to believe I may luck out. Willis went 1.8, Pos 1.10. I do not think Beason would stand any chance of being there at 2.15. Id still have taken Beason though I think.

RB scoring

Number of Passing TDs 0-99 6 points each

Passing Yards -50-299 1 point for every 25

Passing Yards 300-999 15 points for 300, and then 1 point for every 25 thereafter

Passing 2 Pointers 0-99 1 point each

Number of Rushing TDs 0-99 6 points each

Length of Rushing TD 50-70 2

Length of Rushing TD 71-110 4

Rushing Yards -50-99 1 point for every 10

Rushing Yards 100-199 15 points for 100, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Rushing Yards 200-999 27 points for 200, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Rushing 2 Pointers 0-199 1 point each

Number of Receiving TDs 0-99 6 points each

Receiving Yards -50-99 1 point for every 10

Receiving Yards 100-199 15 points for 100, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Receiving Yards 200-999 27 points for 200, and then 1 point for every 10 thereafter

Receptions 0-99 1 point for every 2

Receiving 2 Pointers 0-99 1 point each

Number of Punt Return TDs 0-99 6 points each

Number of Kickoff Return TDs 0-99 6 points each

Fumbles Lost on Offense 0-99 -2 points each

Defense Scoring

Number of Punt Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Number of Kickoff Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Number of Defensive Fumble Recovery TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 0-99 3 points each Test

Forced Fumbles 0-99 1 point each Test

Number of Interception Return TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Interceptions Caught 0-99 5 points each Test

Passes Defensed 0-99 1 point each Test

Number of Blocked Field Goal TDs 0-99 6 points each Test

Blocked Field Goals 0-99 2 points each Test

Blocked Extra Points 0-99 1 point each Test

Defensive Tackles 0-99 1.45 points each Test

Assists 0-99 0.5 points each Test

Sacked a QB .5-2.5 4 points each Test

Sacked a QB 3-99 5 points each Test

Safeties 0-99 3 points each Test
I stand corrected. League is much different than Zealots because of there are 16 teams and 1.45 points per tackle. Zealots also allows up to 3 starting RBs so it puts more of a premium on RBs. Not sure how many RBs you are able to start in your league but I imagine it would be 2. I am also wondering if you ended up with Irons or Booker at 2.15.

 
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Posted on Sat, Jul. 28, 2007

Panthers update: Beason a holdout

Carolina's top pick misses first practice

STAN OLSON

solson@charlotteobserver.com

SPARTANBURG, S.C. --Now it's official. Linebacker Jon Beason, the Carolina Panthers' No.1 draft pick in April, is a holdout.

Beason missed the first practice at Carolina's Wofford College training camp, and afterward Panthers coach John Fox declined to discuss the matter, saying he preferred to talk about players who were on hand.

Those included both of the team's second-round picks -- wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett and center Ryan Kalil. Each signed Friday and worked out today.

Carolina's first team was also interesting. Offensive lineman Jeremy Bridges, suspended for two games after being arrested for pointing a gun at a strip club dancer, practiced and was the starter at right guard.

Jeff King was the starter at tight end, while Nate Salley started at safety beside veteran Mike Minter. Stanley McClover filled often for defensive end Mike Rucker, who is returning from a knee injury. And Adam Seward substituted for linebacker Dan Morgan on most plays with a potential for contact.

NEXT PRACTICE: 6:40 tonight

 
Reading stuff around here in Charlotte it doesn't sound like they're close at all. The guy drafted in front of him and several drafted after him have signed, but it sounds like his agent may be trying to "wreck the curve" if you will. I'd be surprised if the Panthers gave in much, although they do need him.

 

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