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6 year deal that pays him a guaranteed 30.5 in the first 3 years. Highest ever for a OL. This is Jordan Gross we are talking about nice guy but not anywhere close to top 10 LT in the league. This would never have happened if Peppers didnt want out for some crazy reason. Now the Panthers slap Peppers with the Franchise tag and let the bidding start.

Unreal

 
Where are you hearing this at? Rotoworld? I checked ESPN and NFL.com didn't see any where he signed a new contract.

 
People are too focused on comparing a player against all the other players at his position contractually. That's not a relevant comparison at all. What you need to decide in your own mind is whether the replacement cost for letting Gross leave was more advantageous than paying him $30.5mm guaranteed. I can't fathom how the answer to what would be "yes."

 
Its on Charlotte.com and other Panther blogs. This is not the common marketplace. Peppers put the Panthers between a rock and a hard place and Gross took advantage. Not Gross's fault just great timing for him. They are putting the tag on Peppers and he has now said that there are only 4 teams that he will play for. Dallas being one of them. In short Peppers is acting like a NBA player.

 
6 year deal that pays him a guaranteed 30.5 in the first 3 years. Highest ever for a OL. This is Jordan Gross we are talking about nice guy but not anywhere close to top 10 LT in the league. This would never have happened if Peppers didnt want out for some crazy reason. Now the Panthers slap Peppers with the Franchise tag and let the bidding start.Unreal
Not that I don't believe you, but what is your source or link please.They are saying "close to signing"
 
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Its on Charlotte.com and other Panther blogs. This is not the common marketplace. Peppers put the Panthers between a rock and a hard place and Gross took advantage. Not Gross's fault just great timing for him. They are putting the tag on Peppers and he has now said that there are only 4 teams that he will play for. Dallas being one of them. In short Peppers is acting like a NBA player.
Ah OK, thanks.
 
People are too focused on comparing a player against all the other players at his position contractually. That's not a relevant comparison at all. What you need to decide in your own mind is whether the replacement cost for letting Gross leave was more advantageous than paying him $30.5mm guaranteed. I can't fathom how the answer to what would be "yes."
I am not complaining per se because losing Gross would be disastrous, I am just pointing out how the timing of all the factors helped Gross immensely in getting a brand new huge contract.
 
I'd be curious to see the final numbers for the whole deal. I don't remember every FA OL this year, but IIRC he is at the top of the list. Honestly he probably would have gotten a similar deal on the open market. Every year the top FA 'seems' to get more money then they are worth. Just simple supply and demand.

 
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So does Cassel owe Brady a cut of his new contract? Does Sproles owe Tomlinson a cut of his new contract? Their injuries certainly made Cassel and Sproles more valuable.

It's a marketplace. If you have the other side between a rock and a hard place, you drive a tough bargain. Happens all the time.

 
I'm sure that Gross and his agent knew how long JPs deal ran when they were negotiating Gross' rookie deal. The timing was likely planned.

 
From the Charlotte Observer website

The Carolina Panthers reached a contract agreement today with left tackle Jordan Gross and placed their franchise tag on defensive end Julius Peppers.

According to sources, Gross received a front-loaded, six-year contract that pays him $30.5 million over the first three years of the deal – the most lucrative three-year payout ever to an offensive lineman.

“We’re done, I want to confirm that,” Gross told the Observer. “I’m ecstatic to be part of the Panthers.”

With Gross secured, the Panthers placed their franchise tag on Peppers, who said on a conference call last Saturday that he’d ask to be traded if tag.

Peppers' agent, Carl Carey, issued the following statement from Peppers this afternoon:

"Julius was expecting the franchise tag and we will continue to seek a resolution that is in line with his professional goals."

According to a source close to Peppers, he has a list of four teams to which he would accept a trade. Of those four, three are in the NFC, including two the source said Carolina probably wouldn’t trade Peppers to and Dallas, which doesn’t have a first-round pick to trade away.

The AFC team hasn’t been identified, but possibilities include Miami, New England and Denver. The Dolphins and Patriots play the 3-4 defense Peppers has said he prefers, and the Broncos are said to be switching to a 3-4.

Gross, 28, had his best season in 2008. He was selected first-team all-pro and was an NFC Pro Bowl starter.

Gross has started 103 games in his six-year career with the Panthers, including eight in the postseason. His only missed start came last season against Kansas City, when he sat out with a concussion suffered the previous week against Atlanta.

By franchising Peppers, the Panthers automatically were required to make him a one-year tender offer of $16.683 million. That represents a 20 percent increase over his 2008 salary cap figure. It’s nearly double the standard ’09 franchise tender requirement for defensive ends of $8.991 million (an average of the top five highest ’08 cap numbers for defensive ends).

The franchise tag gives the Panthers the option of trading Peppers, signing him to a long-term contract extension or having him play the ’09 season under the franchise tender.

Peppers, 29, has said he won’t sign an extension with the Panthers and wants to get a fresh start elsewhere in order to fully reach his potential as a player.

 
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PlasmaDogPlasma said:
pantherclub said:
This is Jordan Gross we are talking about nice guy but not anywhere close to top 10 LT in the league.
Name 10 LTs currently better than Jordan Gross. It's not by accident that they ran for so many yards last year.
:unsure: Pro Bowl starters are usually top 10 at their position.
 

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