Josh Morgan (1 Viewer)

[lionsroar]

After a modest game one and a invisible game two what is going on. Many were high on him as a preseason sleeper. I assume the Gore's incredible day against Seattle required very few pass attempts by the 49ers. Going forward what can we expect?

 

[Sabertooth]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

 

[Two Deep]

I assume by the lack of response that your quess is as good as any. The old man Bruce is still getting play but that could be because Morgan is the threat that is drawing the coverage. Eventually they are going to get involved in a game that they are going to have to open up the passing game and then Morgan will step up, but I don't belive it will be consistent.

 

[Young 8]

After a modest game one and a invisible game two what is going on. Many were high on him as a preseason sleeper. I assume the Gore's incredible day against Seattle required very few pass attempts by the 49ers. Going forward what can we expect?

Niners gameplan this yearDefenseRun----Pass

 

[rrhartjr]

Morgan is an athletic deep threat, but deep passing isn't part of Hill's skillset or part of SF's gameplan. So I don't think its any failing on his part, but simply a lack of opportunity.

Bruce fits better what they're trying to do.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Morgan is an athletic deep threat, but deep passing isn't part of Hill's skillset or part of SF's gameplan. So I don't think its any failing on his part, but simply a lack of opportunity.Bruce fits better what they're trying to do.

 

[menobrown]

They 49'ers are using him like a glorified TE. He actually plays more snaps than Bruce and almost never leaves the field but most of the time they run him close to the line of scrimmage and utilize him as a blocker. He's just not getting any meaningful targets. FBG and damn near every fantasy site I know considered him a sleeper due to his talent but he's just not getting the opportunity. I took a goose egg this week starting him in a league and while I'm not starting him again until he shows something I'm not going to cut him yet either. I think the talent is there and maybe when teams are just determined to take Gore out of the game it's going to force the 49'ers to look his way.

 

[thehornet]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

This.Certain staff cannot admit when they missed. Morgan isn't going to be a star.

 

[lionsroar]

the Morgan-Schilens effect. Man that was funny. yeah, the said he had a couple of awesome blocks on Gore's td runs. Last time I checked, no points for awesome blocks...

 

[JamesTheScot]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

 

[Sabertooth]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

Maybe I am being unfair on Schilens. And maybe it is the fact that Morgan is a sleeper type guy, but he gets a lot of press in these parts. I just don't see why.

 

[Sabertooth]

In reality, Morgan should be lumped with Robert Ferguson.

 

[Todem]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.

Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?

I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.

And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.

It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

Morgan is a strong hold in dynasty no doubt.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Other than abuse Jarrett Bush in a preseason game, Morgan has done nothing.

 

[gianmarco]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

Maybe I am being unfair on Schilens. And maybe it is the fact that Morgan is a sleeper type guy, but he gets a lot of press in these parts. I just don't see why.

You don't see why? He and others like him get press HERE because that's the kind of information people come here for. No need to regurgitate obvious information about well known players and stars. It's finding the stars from obscurity that helps you win. You can't hit on every one. But just like there's a Josh Morgan that doesn't produce (which, btw, hasn't even happened yet as it's only week 2), there's also a Brandon Marshall that can win a league for you. If you're not looking for Morgan/Schilens type players, then why are you here? Do you come here to hear why AP should be the #1 pick? Or are there other sleepers that you think are more worthy than Morgan? If so, name them so we can see how good you are at predicting them instead of falling for the Morgan-Schilens effect.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

Maybe I am being unfair on Schilens. And maybe it is the fact that Morgan is a sleeper type guy, but he gets a lot of press in these parts. I just don't see why.

You don't see why? He and others like him get press HERE because that's the kind of information people come here for. No need to regurgitate obvious information about well known players and stars. It's finding the stars from obscurity that helps you win. You can't hit on every one. But just like there's a Josh Morgan that doesn't produce (which, btw, hasn't even happened yet as it's only week 2), there's also a Brandon Marshall that can win a league for you. If you're not looking for Morgan/Schilens type players, then why are you here? Do you come here to hear why AP should be the #1 pick? Or are there other sleepers that you think are more worthy than Morgan? If so, name them so we can see how good you are at predicting them instead of falling for the Morgan-Schilens effect.

People make these posts as if there's some sort of guarantee that can be made that a young, unheralded player will emerge.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

'Member Brandon Lloyd?

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

Why are you lumping Schilens in with Morgan? Schilens is injured. That would lead me to believe you have a oppositional defiance bias of some sort. Morgan was considered an impressive athlete/natural talent coming out of college but was downgraded due to some (legit) immaturity/underachiever concerns.Did FBG's miss in that they misjudged his physical ability, his maturity or his opportunity?I think the talent is there and I'm not aware of any maturity issues this year...so I think it's the opportunity. But even then, it's still early in the season and he's in his second season playing opposite a former pro-bowler. I think he's still a hold in dynasty.And I'm not sure how much of a miss he is anyway. He was way down on my Draft Dominator rankings so it's not like he was predicted as a WR2 or anything. In fact, being pimped as a sleeper isn't anything but a confirmation that a lot isn't expected of him. If it was expected of him, his rankings would reflect that and he wouldn't be a sleeper.It's a sad day when you get slagged because your sleepers don't hit after two weeks. Kinda makes you want to call out the critics about their sleeper record so far...after two weeks.

Maybe I am being unfair on Schilens. And maybe it is the fact that Morgan is a sleeper type guy, but he gets a lot of press in these parts. I just don't see why.

You don't see why? He and others like him get press HERE because that's the kind of information people come here for. No need to regurgitate obvious information about well known players and stars. It's finding the stars from obscurity that helps you win. You can't hit on every one. But just like there's a Josh Morgan that doesn't produce (which, btw, hasn't even happened yet as it's only week 2), there's also a Brandon Marshall that can win a league for you. If you're not looking for Morgan/Schilens type players, then why are you here? Do you come here to hear why AP should be the #1 pick? Or are there other sleepers that you think are more worthy than Morgan? If so, name them so we can see how good you are at predicting them instead of falling for the Morgan-Schilens effect.

There seems to be quite a few posters that have decided if you don't produce in the first two weeks, your year is shot (or even your career in this case). Morgan has started three NFL games in his short career. I don't think its all that crazy to....you know, let him develop? There are Hall of Fame WRs that put up similar numbers at the beginning of their careers. The reality is in the immortal words of Jim Mora, we just don't know.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

In reality, Morgan should be lumped with Robert Ferguson.

Why do you compare him to Ferguson? Has Morgan proclaimed that Lasik is going to save his career? Has Morgan been tormented by a continued inability to catch easy passes?

 

[gpthatsme]

With Gore out, do we start to see some of that potential from Morgan?

 

[drcrappants]

FBG does this with guys. They have a bigtime confirmation bias and when they see what they want to see, they report it. When they see what they don't want to see, they poo-poo it. I call it the Morgan-Schilens effect.

This.Certain staff cannot admit when they missed. Morgan isn't going to be a star.

using this logic then matt forte is a miss too. should be traded for mcgahee immediately. same with people like calvin johnson and larry fitzgerald. mario manningham has better stats so we should trade for him.its a long season.

 

[sandlotshrink]

With Gore out, do we start to see some of that potential from Morgan?

I was wondering the same thing. Coffee did not seem to be very effective thus SF will be forced to throw and Morgan is the top wide out, right? I'm guessing that even if Gore returns, teams will stack the box similar to the treatment ADP gets forcing Big Mike's hand.

 

[harryhood]

With Gore out, do we start to see some of that potential from Morgan?

I was wondering the same thing. Coffee did not seem to be very effective thus SF will be forced to throw and Morgan is the top wide out, right? I'm guessing that even if Gore returns, teams will stack the box similar to the treatment ADP gets forcing Big Mike's hand.

Vernon Davis should also see an increase in value here too.

 

[gpthatsme]

'bout time he did something...

 

[netnalp]

I'm still glad I dropped him for Sims-Walker.

 

[az_prof]

Box score watchers will see the TD, but he dropped an easy pass for a first down earlier. He doesn't look like a star WR to me.

 

[SteevieG]

Didn't see the drop, but I see the points for the TD on the computer. I'll take it and hope to he!! I don't have to start him again any time soon. I've been sitting on him for 2 years and this was the first start he had for my team. He helped for sure. Now if MIN can get some points through the air all will be well.