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trader jake
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Cribbs never would have been hurt if the refs didn't allow the Browns to use 4 second half timeouts. 
Then again, running a hook and ladder on the final play of a 16 point game doesn't make much sense either.
Then again, running a hook and ladder on the final play of a 16 point game doesn't make much sense either.
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Footballguy
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tombonneau
Footballguy
It is unreal that they got four timeouts. That head official should be suspended immediately. Beyond inexcusable.Cribbs never would have been hurt if the refs didn't allow the Browns to use 4 second half timeouts.Then again, running a hook and ladder on the final play of a 16 point game doesn't make much sense either.
My thoughts exactly. What a dumb ###! I suppose if you have QB who cant keep the ball in bounds when throwing over 20 yards you dont want to run the risk of hitting a cheerleader in the head by throwing a hailmary pass at the end of the game!trader jake said:Cribbs never would have been hurt if the refs didn't allow the Browns to use 4 second half timeouts.Then again, running a hook and ladder on the final play of a 16 point game doesn't make much sense either.
harryhood
Footballguy
Turned the game off after Quinn's second pick but there was some speculation on NY radio this morning that it may have been a little payback for Quinn going after Suggs' knee.
Any thoughts on that? The minute I saw that play I turned it off but I was wondering if there was gonna be a little payback late in the game. When I heard Cribbs was carted off the field, that was the first thing that came to mind. Thoughts from those of you who saw it? Clean hit?
Any thoughts on that? The minute I saw that play I turned it off but I was wondering if there was gonna be a little payback late in the game. When I heard Cribbs was carted off the field, that was the first thing that came to mind. Thoughts from those of you who saw it? Clean hit?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I turned it off after they pulled Ray Raice late in the 4th quarter (needed 2 more yards for high scorer
) so I didn't see the hit on Cribbs. I did see Quinn's penalty and I think it was more of a case of a QB not used to tackling than a intent to injure. Let's face it, Quinn can't hit anything that he is aiming for.
harryhood
Footballguy
I didn't see the interception replay or Quinn on replay but why was he going after a guy without the ball as they were trying to run it back? Usually its the QB getting tagged on those types of plays.I turned it off after they pulled Ray Raice late in the 4th quarter (needed 2 more yards for high scorer) so I didn't see the hit on Cribbs. I did see Quinn's penalty and I think it was more of a case of a QB not used to tackling than a intent to injure. Let's face it, Quinn can't hit anything that he is aiming for.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Please explain.This team may not score a point the rest of the year. Parity and quality in the NFL.
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FavreCo
Footballguy
Why would I have to? Did you see that #### last night.Have you seen the #### in Oakland? Detroit, St. Louis?Please explain.This team may not score a point the rest of the year. Parity and quality in the NFL.
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Arch Stanton
Footballguy
Couple of years ago the refs made an "administrative error" and basically gave Baltimore 4 TOs, the last of which gave them time to tie it with seconds left. That head official was actually fined half his game check for the mistake $2500. FIrst time and only time I can remember a ref being fined (or at least publicly).The error was thus: Baltimore ran a play that left the clock ticking, they called timeout but there was a flag. Refs waived off the flag and gave Baltimore they timeout back but failed to start the clock again. The punishment was given by Tags back when Holgren was head of the Competition Committee.It is unreal that they got four timeouts. That head official should be suspended immediately. Beyond inexcusable.trader jake said:Cribbs never would have been hurt if the refs didn't allow the Browns to use 4 second half timeouts.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Das Boot
Footballguy
I think parity is alive and well in the NFL and I'm a big fan of it.Parity doesn't mean that every single team is competitive... there will always be outliers on either side of the curve.Why would I have to? Did you see that #### last night.Have you seen the #### in Oakland? Detroit, St. Louis?Please explain.This team may not score a point the rest of the year. Parity and quality in the NFL.
It does seem as if there are a few more truly bad teams this year than the NFL has had in the past sevearl years.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
They were losing 16-0 and it was the final play of the game. Nothing they did on that play could have changed the outcome. Flipping the ball all around the way they were leads to guys being in odd positions with opponents coming at you from directions from which you can't protect yourself. It was dumb.
joffer
Footballguy
does he call plays? i honestly don't know.
FavreCo
Footballguy
And the reason is cheap owners. Also remember they are prepping for a lockout. Look no further than Tampa Bay signing 2 hacks for 25 million or so as long as they each block 5 punts. Yeah that's gonna happen. If either got to 4 punts blocked, I guarantee you they would be in the unemployment line within a minute of #4.That $ counted agains the salary cap and did not have to be spent. THAT is a problem. That adds to the diminished quality of product on the field.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Wow, didn't realize it was such a cheap shot. Hopefully whoever that was gets a huge fine. Cribbs had lateraled that ball WAY before he got hit.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
It did not look that bad at all..I have seen way harder hits. Actually it seemed like Lewis gave him a pop..then let up.
harryhood
Footballguy
Like i asked previously - anyone think it was payback for Quinns B**** move after he threw his 2nd pick?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Just saw it, and stupid play-call, for sure, but Cribbs did just let up on the play after he lateraled the ball; he just stopped and watched the play. You can't do that in an NFL game. Still, moronic play-call, which is to be expected from the Cleveland Browns.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Cribbs wasn't the final ball carrier and it wasn't Lewis that hit him.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Oh, so you can't block non-ball carries now? If Hines Ward had done that (and he does stuff like all of the time...often much worse), you Steelers fans would be defending him, saying you have to keep your head on a swivel in an NFL game, but since a Raven did it, and you all hate the Ravens, it is a cheap shot. Give me a break.
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The_Man
Footballguy
If you look at the guy who has the ball when he's tackled to end the game, he's obviously looking to lateral it overhand back to Cribbs, except that Cribbs is no longer there as a receiving target because he's been taken out. I thought it was a heads-up for the Ravens defender.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
It wasn't a block, the Ravens were on defense.
trader jake
Footballguy
All is fair in love and war...and make no mistake, some owners are at war right now with the player's union. I'd guess half the owners won't spend much at all this offseason without a new collective bargaining agreement in place. The players are finally starting to realize the 2010 "uncapped" year won't be this free spending, big dollar windfall many were envisioning. Of course that's a great thing for us fans because it means the likelihood of a new deal being in place is that much higher.Josh Cribbs is one of the players stuck in this exact situation right now. If a collective bargaining agreement was in place right now he'd have a new contract with the Browns. Then again, maybe he'll eventually be pleased that he didn't get that long-term deal with Cleveland.
bonesman
Footballguy
I agree... it looks like his momentum was already going into Cribbs and he kind of threw his shoulder to make contact... he didn't leave the ground or put his head down or anything overtly malicious... yea, he kind of made a hit, but he was about to run into a player of the other team... that's what you do. This is nowhere near like that hit on Johnson after the ball sailed way over his head and he was coming down defenseless... no fine should be issued IMO.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Now Cribbs' agent is pissed at the Browns:
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2009/11/17/jos...ng-him-to-injur
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2009/11/17/jos...ng-him-to-injur
I don't think it was bad either. It appeared to me that the guy who hit Cribbs did so as a reaction to a guy running at him rather than hitting him maliciously.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
So he shouldn't be hit? The moment he laterals the ball he's just another blocker and he was in between Ray the Raven and the ball carrier
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ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Chances that Cribbs gets staph?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Oh, so defensive players cannot touch offensive players, even ones who had just touched the ball? Interesting. I may have misspoke calling it a block, but there was certainly nothing wrong with the hit the guy laid on Cribbs. He didn't even hit him that hard. It was just a stupid play to run, and Cribbs almost stopped paying attention once he lateraled the ball.
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I agree, he gave him a little shot up high but it certainly wasn't brutal or particularly late. Looks like Cribbs caught a forearm to the throat. And this is coming from a Ray Lewis detractor.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
This week's TMQ blasts him pretty hard for apparently thinking "A shutout will look lousy on my resume. Let's risk the health of my team to keep me from being even more embarrased."
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
not out of the question. it's Cleveland.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
I think you want Quinn safe and sound if you're playing against him.I didn't see the interception replay or Quinn on replay but why was he going after a guy without the ball as they were trying to run it back? Usually its the QB getting tagged on those types of plays.I turned it off after they pulled Ray Raice late in the 4th quarter (needed 2 more yards for high scorer) so I didn't see the hit on Cribbs. I did see Quinn's penalty and I think it was more of a case of a QB not used to tackling than a intent to injure. Let's face it, Quinn can't hit anything that he is aiming for.
I really don't fault the Ravens for hitting him. It wasn't a cheap shot, he had just been in possession of the football, and was still close enough to the play to take him out. That hit was imo just how the game of football should be played.
I *do* have a problem with Mangini calling that nonsense. What a terrible, terrible coach. He needs to join Jauron in the unemployment line. That was a stupid call to top off a game full of stupid calls, and now he's responsible for getting his sole playmaker injured.
Cribbs' agent is pissed at the team and he has every right to be furious. They won't give him a raise as he asked. Cribbs didn't want to hold out as he felt he needed to be there with his team. The Browns, believing he wasn't worth more money, also thought he was their best offensive weapon so they started playing him at rb an as a qb in Wildcat formations.
He's a good guy, great team player, gives 100%, one of the best return men in the league and one helluva gunner. I hope he gets out of that Hell known as Cleveland and gets the raise he deserves.
I *do* have a problem with Mangini calling that nonsense. What a terrible, terrible coach. He needs to join Jauron in the unemployment line. That was a stupid call to top off a game full of stupid calls, and now he's responsible for getting his sole playmaker injured.
Cribbs' agent is pissed at the team and he has every right to be furious. They won't give him a raise as he asked. Cribbs didn't want to hold out as he felt he needed to be there with his team. The Browns, believing he wasn't worth more money, also thought he was their best offensive weapon so they started playing him at rb an as a qb in Wildcat formations.
He's a good guy, great team player, gives 100%, one of the best return men in the league and one helluva gunner. I hope he gets out of that Hell known as Cleveland and gets the raise he deserves.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
or you could blame Cribbs' injury on the refs.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...fourth-timeout/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...fourth-timeout/
