Junk bond WRs...Morgan, Robiskie, Nelson, Caldwell (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

There might be a few others that are around but these WRs are gaining playing time and opps right now. Many are floating around on WW in both redraft and dyansty.

Josh Morgan - I'm not buying the surge really but they do play St Louis this week so he might have his 3rd decent game in a row.

Brian Robiskie - Not the best match up this week but he suddenly looks like a viable option in Cleveland.

David Nelson - Steve Johnson is not the only guy in Buffalo right now, especially with Lee Evans gone for the season, maybe next year he doesn't come back. Nelson is 6-5 and I'm not sure his role in the offense is as interchangeable as some guys who might come back next year like Roscoe Parrish for example. What I men is he might be carving a lasting niche on this team.

Andre Caldwell - TO is done in Cinci. Shipley probably gains more targets but also looking into next season.

Devin Aromashodu - He was on the field the other night and had a TD called back. He is still 4th on the depth charts but I am not a big fan of anyone in front of him. Whether it is Chicago or somewhere else I like his chances long term in the NFL to pop up again.

 

[Sweet Love]

I touted Robiskie pretty hard in the offseason as a sleeper pick, and unfortunately, he stayed asleep. He does seem to run pretty decent routes and McCoy is a very heady/technical QB, so that should play well into Robiskie's chances moving forward. The odd part is, I never hear any negatives about him, yet he never seems to make anything happen (this past week excluded). In a way, it worries me as they like the guy, and will keep him around, but am just not sure whether they seem him as a "go-to" guy or good insurance on a rookie contract.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I like Caldwell with TO out and Ocho gimpy.

I'd add Armstrong, Jacoby Jones, Kevin Walter, and Emmanuel Sanders to the Junk Bond WR list.

 

[jwb]

I touted Robiskie pretty hard in the offseason as a sleeper pick, and unfortunately, he stayed asleep. He does seem to run pretty decent routes and McCoy is a very heady/technical QB, so that should play well into Robiskie's chances moving forward. The odd part is, I never hear any negatives about him, yet he never seems to make anything happen (this past week excluded). In a way, it worries me as they like the guy, and will keep him around, but am just not sure whether they seem him as a "go-to" guy or good insurance on a rookie contract.

This is exactly what was said about him coming out of college - nice routes, smart, will make the team and see the field, but nothing special at all.

 

[daveR]

I touted Robiskie pretty hard in the offseason as a sleeper pick, and unfortunately, he stayed asleep. He does seem to run pretty decent routes and McCoy is a very heady/technical QB, so that should play well into Robiskie's chances moving forward. The odd part is, I never hear any negatives about him, yet he never seems to make anything happen (this past week excluded). In a way, it worries me as they like the guy, and will keep him around, but am just not sure whether they seem him as a "go-to" guy or good insurance on a rookie contract.

This is exactly what was said about him coming out of college - nice routes, smart, will make the team and see the field, but nothing special at all.

No suddenness, no separation, no explosiveness. They say he runs good routes. Seems he's a possession guy on a poor passing team.

 

[the_vision]

David Nelson - Steve Johnson is not the only guy in Buffalo right now, especially with Lee Evans gone for the season, maybe next year he doesn't come back. Nelson is 6-5 and I'm not sure his role in the offense is as interchangeable as some guys who might come back next year like Roscoe Parrish for example. What I men is he might be carving a lasting niche on this team.

I went back and forth with him this season but I couldn't find a spot to keep him rostered although he seems like a guy that might be a solid spot starter down the road.

 

[simdog]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

 

[saintfool]

I touted Robiskie pretty hard in the offseason as a sleeper pick, and unfortunately, he stayed asleep. He does seem to run pretty decent routes and McCoy is a very heady/technical QB, so that should play well into Robiskie's chances moving forward. The odd part is, I never hear any negatives about him, yet he never seems to make anything happen (this past week excluded). In a way, it worries me as they like the guy, and will keep him around, but am just not sure whether they seem him as a "go-to" guy or good insurance on a rookie contract.

This is exactly what was said about him coming out of college - nice routes, smart, will make the team and see the field, but nothing special at all.

No suddenness, no separation, no explosiveness. They say he runs good routes. Seems he's a possession guy on a poor passing team.

this is what buys him a little time for me. they have to fix the passing game and make it somehow credible. mccoy might be the answer there with another year under his belt. delhomme surely isn't. mangini leaving will not help mccoy's development, i think. if a FA comes in - mcnab, for example - then the passing game could give massaquoi and robiskie some value.

 

[mcintyre1]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

 

[daveR]

I touted Robiskie pretty hard in the offseason as a sleeper pick, and unfortunately, he stayed asleep. He does seem to run pretty decent routes and McCoy is a very heady/technical QB, so that should play well into Robiskie's chances moving forward. The odd part is, I never hear any negatives about him, yet he never seems to make anything happen (this past week excluded). In a way, it worries me as they like the guy, and will keep him around, but am just not sure whether they seem him as a "go-to" guy or good insurance on a rookie contract.

This is exactly what was said about him coming out of college - nice routes, smart, will make the team and see the field, but nothing special at all.

No suddenness, no separation, no explosiveness. They say he runs good routes. Seems he's a possession guy on a poor passing team.

this is what buys him a little time for me. they have to fix the passing game and make it somehow credible. mccoy might be the answer there with another year under his belt. delhomme surely isn't. mangini leaving will not help mccoy's development, i think. if a FA comes in - mcnab, for example - then the passing game could give massaquoi and robiskie some value.

I think the have every intention of making McCoy the Man. If they bring in a veteran, he'll be a back-up, IMO.

 

[Onions]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

Where would you slot David Gettis and Andre Roberts on this list?

 

[MAC_32]

I was wrong about him, Robiskie is awful. There are lots of problems needing fized in Cleveland, as always, but wide receiver is the #1 problem. The passing game sucks because the receivers suck.

 

[Lascelle]

I've had to pick up a bunch of these guys in my 20-team league due to losing Nicks for 2+ weeks, losing TO for the season and an extremely thin waiver wire. Managed to find some success with Anthony Armstrong and he's in my lineup this week due to the nice Jacksonville matchup.

I've also picked up David Nelson and Andre Caldwell and will slot them in when needed... which may turn out to be this week. If Hillis can't go for the Browns, I'll have to decide between Nelson or Anthony Dixon for my flex spot.

 

[gregjcross]

There might be a few others that are around but these WRs are gaining playing time and opps right now. Many are floating around on WW in both redraft and dyansty.

Josh Morgan - I'm not buying the surge really but they do play St Louis this week so he might have his 3rd decent game in a row.

Brian Robiskie - Not the best match up this week but he suddenly looks like a viable option in Cleveland.

David Nelson - Steve Johnson is not the only guy in Buffalo right now, especially with Lee Evans gone for the season, maybe next year he doesn't come back. Nelson is 6-5 and I'm not sure his role in the offense is as interchangeable as some guys who might come back next year like Roscoe Parrish for example. What I men is he might be carving a lasting niche on this team.

Andre Caldwell - TO is done in Cinci. Shipley probably gains more targets but also looking into next season.

Devin Aromashodu - He was on the field the other night and had a TD called back. He is still 4th on the depth charts but I am not a big fan of anyone in front of him. Whether it is Chicago or somewhere else I like his chances long term in the NFL to pop up again.

I am in a super deep Keeper, 10 WRs deep. I kept Caldwell and J.Morgan last 3 years awaiting this. BUT! I am in a championship game this week --and every time i have tried playing either of them (a year ago) I have been burned. I am going to play Lance Moore at #3, other optoins being Meachem, Michael Jenkins. Damn I hate this because I know Andre Caldwell is going to go pretty decent.

 

[Roscoe P Coltrane]

David Nelson gets an upgrade on the Upgrade/Downgrade/Waiver Wire report, gets listed as a Sleeper in Bob Henry's week 16 report, and the Bills passing game is listed as having a good matchup vs. the Pats this week -- all of which I agree with. So why is he ranked only #78 on this week's cheatsheets?? I am playing for the championship this week, and am desperate at WR3 (and WR2, for that matter)... Does anyone else think that his potential this week is much higher than Dodds is giving him credit for?

 

[saintfool]

I was wrong about him, Robiskie is awful. There are lots of problems needing fized in Cleveland, as always, but wide receiver is the #1 problem. The passing game sucks because the receivers suck.

so is that a vote of confidence for delhomme/wallace/mccoy rather than an indictment of robiskie/massaquoi? wow.

 

[loose circuits]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

not sure I agree with you about Breaston being in such high demand. He was beat out by Andre Roberts at the end of last year. If we are looking at true sleepers, it appears to be Roberts that should be high on everyone's list as I think he's got the ability and opportunity assuming Arizona finds a QB.Breaston is a 4 year RFA who will likely hit the open market. I imagine the front office in Arizona will be focused on obtaining a QB rather than signing him once things open up. With Roberts, Doucet, and Williams on the roster, Cards likely won't miss him. Also, I don't think the demand for WR's is too high this offseason. Seems like the supply will outweigh the market

also, no way Damian Williams should be at the bottom of that list. Everything coming out of Tenn says he's going to be much more involved this year and has legitimate shot at PT. Nate Washington is better suited as a WR3 anyways...

 

[mcintyre1]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

not sure I agree with you about Breaston being in such high demand. He was beat out by Andre Roberts at the end of last year. If we are looking at true sleepers, it appears to be Roberts that should be high on everyone's list as I think he's got the ability and opportunity assuming Arizona finds a QB.Breaston is a 4 year RFA who will likely hit the open market. I imagine the front office in Arizona will be focused on obtaining a QB rather than signing him once things open up. With Roberts, Doucet, and Williams on the roster, Cards likely won't miss him. Also, I don't think the demand for WR's is too high this offseason. Seems like the supply will outweigh the market

also, no way Damian Williams should be at the bottom of that list. Everything coming out of Tenn says he's going to be much more involved this year and has legitimate shot at PT. Nate Washington is better suited as a WR3 anyways...

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:

Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.

Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

 

[loose circuits]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

not sure I agree with you about Breaston being in such high demand. He was beat out by Andre Roberts at the end of last year. If we are looking at true sleepers, it appears to be Roberts that should be high on everyone's list as I think he's got the ability and opportunity assuming Arizona finds a QB.Breaston is a 4 year RFA who will likely hit the open market. I imagine the front office in Arizona will be focused on obtaining a QB rather than signing him once things open up. With Roberts, Doucet, and Williams on the roster, Cards likely won't miss him. Also, I don't think the demand for WR's is too high this offseason. Seems like the supply will outweigh the market

also, no way Damian Williams should be at the bottom of that list. Everything coming out of Tenn says he's going to be much more involved this year and has legitimate shot at PT. Nate Washington is better suited as a WR3 anyways...

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:

Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.

Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

Don't 1st round tenders cost 2.5 mil or something like that? Is 2.5 mil WR3 money? How is that a sign they think of highly of him? Not sure that means he is ahead of Roberts by any means when Breaston finished the year as the slot guy...what has he really done to not be junk bond WR?You may be right about Tenn having only 1 impact WR, but I don't really see a clear cut guy there now with Britt being a consistent knucklehead. Just not sure he's learned his lesson yet, either... Williams costs peanuts and I think he could have a huge ROI. Guess it just depends on how the targets will be split up as Cook will be involved as well.

 

[mcintyre1]

How would u rank these "junk-bond WR" in a dynasty league

David Nelson, Damian Williams, Andre Caldwell, Devin Aromashodu, Steve Breaston, Seyi Ajirotutu

First off, if Breaston is on your WW, get him immediately. He doesn't qualify as a junk bond receiver. He should absolutely be rostered in Dynasty leagues. If Arizona gets a QB he'll have very good value.That said:

Breaston

David Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Devin Aromashodu

Seyi Ajirotutu

Damian Willaims

not sure I agree with you about Breaston being in such high demand. He was beat out by Andre Roberts at the end of last year. If we are looking at true sleepers, it appears to be Roberts that should be high on everyone's list as I think he's got the ability and opportunity assuming Arizona finds a QB.Breaston is a 4 year RFA who will likely hit the open market. I imagine the front office in Arizona will be focused on obtaining a QB rather than signing him once things open up. With Roberts, Doucet, and Williams on the roster, Cards likely won't miss him. Also, I don't think the demand for WR's is too high this offseason. Seems like the supply will outweigh the market

also, no way Damian Williams should be at the bottom of that list. Everything coming out of Tenn says he's going to be much more involved this year and has legitimate shot at PT. Nate Washington is better suited as a WR3 anyways...

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:

Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.

Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

Don't 1st round tenders cost 2.5 mil or something like that? Is 2.5 mil WR3 money? How is that a sign they think of highly of him? Not sure that means he is ahead of Roberts by any means when Breaston finished the year as the slot guy...what has he really done to not be junk bond WR?You may be right about Tenn having only 1 impact WR, but I don't really see a clear cut guy there now with Britt being a consistent knucklehead. Just not sure he's learned his lesson yet, either... Williams costs peanuts and I think he could have a huge ROI. Guess it just depends on how the targets will be split up as Cook will be involved as well.

Be the only person on that list to break 1000 yards receiving?

Do you understand how restricted free agency works? If they didn't really care about whether Breaston stuck around, they would have given him a lower tender. The player essentially has to accept whatever offer they give him, unless he wants to hold out. Why offer him 1st round tender money when they could have had him for less?

 

[loose circuits]

Be the only person on that list to break 1000 yards receiving?Do you understand how restricted free agency works? If they didn't really care about whether Breaston stuck around, they would have given him a lower tender. The player essentially has to accept whatever offer they give him, unless he wants to hold out. Why offer him 1st round tender money when they could have had him for less?

I understand how they work just fine. what is the difference in price? like 600-800k? Maybe they felt like that difference was worth it to keep a guy that contributes on special teams and is a decent WR3. Guess it's all moot at this point, we'll see where he ends up. Like I said before, I expect the Cards front office to be focused elsewhere when things open up. Maybe he'll be sitting on the wire and will take a reasonable deal when they get the QB situation straightened out.

 

[saintfool]

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

i think breaston may have some value, especially if fitz decides to leave. fitz wants to win. he won't sign an extension if they don't solve the QB situation there *and* start to show some improvement. that's a pretty tall order. the cards may let him walk - obviously he could be traded - rather than franchise him for $23 million. if this situation plays out along those lines then breaston might have some value.

 

[loose circuits]

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

i think breaston may have some value, especially if fitz decides to leave. fitz wants to win. he won't sign an extension if they don't solve the QB situation there *and* start to show some improvement. that's a pretty tall order. the cards may let him walk - obviously he could be traded - rather than franchise him for $23 million. if this situation plays out along those lines then breaston might have some value.

you realize Fitz is signed in 2011 while Breaston is headed to free agency based off reports that 4 year RFA's will be UFA's?

 

[saintfool]

Not sure why you decided to revive a thread from December, but:Breaston was given a 1st round RFA tender. That doesn't imply they don't think highly of him.Williams may earn the #2 spot in Tennessee, but that doesn't mean I want him on my roster. The passing game on that team is going to suck for several more years, at least. Locker will never be a good enough passer to produce 2 week-to-week starters at WR.

i think breaston may have some value, especially if fitz decides to leave. fitz wants to win. he won't sign an extension if they don't solve the QB situation there *and* start to show some improvement. that's a pretty tall order. the cards may let him walk - obviously he could be traded - rather than franchise him for $23 million. if this situation plays out along those lines then breaston might have some value.

you realize Fitz is signed in 2011 while Breaston is headed to free agency based off reports that 4 year RFA's will be UFA's?

fitz is only under contract through next season. there are a couple of scenarios that come into play as a result. as far as breaston goes, i didn't get the call from roger g last night. i turned off my phone around 10p, so i missed the latest CBA details. i can see where they might have an effect on breaston's value.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

why was Josh Morgan recently picked up off the wire in all my dynasty leagues?

 

[DWest]

why was Josh Morgan recently picked up off the wire in all my dynasty leagues?

He still has some upside, especially with the new coach who came out and said he expects big things from Morgan...then again I think he said the same for Crabtree so who knows. Personally I have him in a couple of my leagues and will hold him hoping the 9er's get a QB who can throw and Crabtree starts developing to take some pressure off the rest of the offense. I know Morgan will never be better than the #3 option in the passing game with Crabtree & Vernon, but with a good QB I see Morgan's ceiling as a decent PPR WR4 or at the least a bye week fill in. So yes, he should not be on the ww imo with 25-30 man rosters.

 

[NorrisB]

Josh Morgan has like zero upside I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole not a great athlete and in a horrible situation

 

[thriftyrocker]

I guess this is as good a place to ask as any:

Who is the Buffalo WR to own other than Stevie?

Easley

Jones

Nelson

Parrish

Evans

Roosevelt

None of the above

 

[ohioplayer]

A month ago, I would have said Nelson, and I still like him alot,

but from what I have been reading lately,Easley is the one to own.

 

[ThePittbully]

Why Easley? David Nelson showed some promise at the end of the season

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Why Easley? David Nelson showed some promise at the end of the season

No one knows really, Blrubs about him being "beastly" in the player only work-outs

 

[Zimm]

Gotta love D.Williams and D.Gettis this year as sleepers.