teacher.The principal confronted you, or the teacher confronted you?fair enough oink oink. I met with the principal about a completely innappropriate situation that this guy was indirectly involved however he was the main school official he was responsible.He being the jackass that he is, confronted me and my wife acting angry and hurt that im causing him harm in his job. Then he informed us that my daughter is not welcome at his house for the end of school party even tho its terrible because he loves my kid and stormed off. Im like dude she is never going anywhere with you again. (A cop friend says anger and denial are signs that something is wrong).It was later in the day one of the parents who was a chaperone told a friend of ours about the goodnight kisses. My daughter admitted that it happened.im meeting with the principal again tmw.He doesn't say how he found out about this and his daughter is still with this guy sleeping overnight. So he would do what any concerned father would do, go post on a message board. Either he is fishing, it isn't that big of a deal or he is stupid.I appreciate good shtick, but this isn't the thread for it.He probably has kids and it is just habit.Really? You think male teachers giving goodnight kisses to 10-12 year old girls is normal?Sounds like you are overreacting to me.
public elementaryReally?These days you really have to question why a dude would want to be an elementary school teacher. Kindergarten teacher... Even worse.
This.The guy's hosting parties with fifth graders at his house? Does he have a hot tub?Something appears to be very wrong here.
This has got to be some kind of crazy religious thing or something. So totally weird.Seriously what kind of school is this?The guy's hosting parties with fifth graders at his house? Does he have a hot tub?Something appears to be very wrong here. Is your daughter still at the camp?
lmaoOh and since you already talked to the principal it is time to go over his head. Demand to speak with the district supernintendo.
I was a chaperone at one of these when my son was 3rd - 6th grades, held at a YMCA Camp in Charlotte. It was so well received that we threw our own followup at Jordan Lake just for the school. Can't conceive of setting up a situation which would encourage or even enable such a display.great point. Its a new thing I guess. I didnt like the idea. Now I hate it. All fifth graders go camping, teachers and parents chaparrone.Explain 5th grade camp. ??
The only one putting his job at risk is the teacher. Incredibly stupid in this day and age to put yourself in this situation with children. Interesting enough I started a thread about an "overnight" for my 4th-grader that had the proposal of one-on-one contact with a teacher (I did not allow my child to attend); I got more than a few responses that I was coddling my boy.fair enough oink oink. I met with the principal about a completely innappropriate situation that this guy was indirectly involved however he was the main school official he was responsible. He being the jackass that he is, confronted me and my wife acting angry and hurt that im causing him harm in his job. Then he informed us that my daughter is not welcome at his house for the end of school party even tho its terrible because he loves my kid and stormed off. Im like dude she is never going anywhere with you again. (A cop friend says anger and denial are signs that something is wrong).It was later in the day one of the parents who was a chaperone told a friend of ours about the goodnight kisses. My daughter admitted that it happened.im meeting with the principal again tmw.He doesn't say how he found out about this and his daughter is still with this guy sleeping overnight. So he would do what any concerned father would do, go post on a message board. Either he is fishing, it isn't that big of a deal or he is stupid.I appreciate good shtick, but this isn't the thread for it.He probably has kids and it is just habit.Really? You think male teachers giving goodnight kisses to 10-12 year old girls is normal?Sounds like you are overreacting to me.
I'd tell them exactly what was told in this thread. Of course, I would also tell them about the details of the story quickhands doesnt want to talk about.For the people saying go to the police, what would you tell them and what would you expect them to do?
How in the holy hell did this parent let this happen and/or not report it?It was later in the day one of the parents who was a chaperone told a friend of ours about the goodnight kisses. My daughter admitted that it happened.im meeting with the principal again tmw.
Go over his head to the school. Worst case you'll be a little embarrassed and he'll stop something relatively harmless, but inappropriate. Best case you're saving some future kid from sexual abuse. Trust your gut.its a long story and circumstantial and my stomach cant handle talking about it.I would make a scene. At his house or at school. Not even close to being ok and with every single news story out there, teachers have to be extra careful now days yet this guy still crosses a line.What's some of the other stuff?
This.The guy's hosting parties with fifth graders at his house? Does he have a hot tub?
Something appears to be very wrong here.
As a teacher all of this is sounding every alarm I can think of.
The best case scenario is this guy isn't a creep/perv but just an absolute moron. Either way he shouldn't be around kids.
This guy may have a prior or may have been accused by other children or parents of inappropriate contact. I would expect them to build a case. CALL THE POLICE.For the people saying go to the police, what would you tell them and what would you expect them to do?
Never heard of a teacher having a party for the students at their own house. Seems pretty weird to me.fair enough oink oink. I met with the principal about a completely innappropriate situation that this guy was indirectly involved however he was the main school official he was responsible.He being the jackass that he is, confronted me and my wife acting angry and hurt that im causing him harm in his job. Then he informed us that my daughter is not welcome at his house for the end of school party even tho its terrible because he loves my kid and stormed off. Im like dude she is never going anywhere with you again. (A cop friend says anger and denial are signs that something is wrong).It was later in the day one of the parents who was a chaperone told a friend of ours about the goodnight kisses. My daughter admitted that it happened.im meeting with the principal again tmw.He doesn't say how he found out about this and his daughter is still with this guy sleeping overnight. So he would do what any concerned father would do, go post on a message board. Either he is fishing, it isn't that big of a deal or he is stupid.I appreciate good shtick, but this isn't the thread for it.He probably has kids and it is just habit.Really? You think male teachers giving goodnight kisses to 10-12 year old girls is normal?Sounds like you are overreacting to me.
I'm a 4th grade teacher. Whenever I have to stay afterschool to tutor a female student, I make sure I do it in the Library where there are other adults, or if I have to I do it in my classroom, but make sure there are other witnesses to see what goes on. We had a male teacher a few years back reprimand a female student afterschool for bullying. She didn't like it, and made up a story about how the teacher touched her. She later confessed, but his career was ruined in our district.
Being a male teacher, I know there are rules and also common sense comes into play. I keep my physical contact restricted to High Fives.
That being said, this guy is a ####### creep.
Secondly, I wouldn't let my daughter go to a sleepaway camp in the 5th grade where a male teacher would have ANY access to her. I truly hope nothing more happened. Good luck.
and no one had a problem with it...wow. this guy would have trouble trying to fix his face after I witnessed something like that. unbelieveable.Morning update. My wife talked to my daughter. Apparently the girls were all tucked in bed. He came around and kissed them in front of 1 other teacher and 2 parents. This whole thing friggen mystifies me.This strikes me as grooming and the women didnt stop it. Meeting the principal at 10.
Why in the hell is a male teacher tucking in 5th grade girls??? The teacher should be fired just for being that stupid.Morning update. My wife talked to my daughter. Apparently the girls were all tucked in bed. He came around and kissed them in front of 1 other teacher and 2 parents. This whole thing friggen mystifies me.This strikes me as grooming and the women didnt stop it. Meeting the principal at 10.
thisWhy in the hell is a male teacher tucking in 5th grade girls??? The teacher should be fired just for being that stupid.Morning update. My wife talked to my daughter. Apparently the girls were all tucked in bed. He came around and kissed them in front of 1 other teacher and 2 parents. This whole thing friggen mystifies me.This strikes me as grooming and the women didnt stop it. Meeting the principal at 10.
Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
I'm going to write this off as a Friday fishing trip just so I don't have to accept the potential reality of it. Sucks if true. Thankfully sounds like it was caught in time before anything worse happened.
He's done with this mealy mouthed no load liberal hippy dippy 9th place ribbon pansy forum.How the #### is this the only thread without Gordon Gekko nailing a cat to a door or putting a gun in someone's mouth?
Really? I think a trip like that could be very fun and educational. My 5th grade class (maybe 6th grade?) went to a place for a whole week where we learned about science and stuff. There was no kissing but I went like 5 days in a row without pooping.Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
Maybe, maybe not. But the only way to be sure is for him to stop ####### doing it.grooming
Things have changed since the 1950'sReally? I think a trip like that could be very fun and educational. My 5th grade class (maybe 6th grade?) went to a place for a whole week where we learned about science and stuff. There was no kissing but I went like 5 days in a row without pooping.Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
ETA: This is the place we went -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature's_Classroom
Place seems to still be operating at like a dozen locations.Things have changed since the 1950'sReally? I think a trip like that could be very fun and educational. My 5th grade class (maybe 6th grade?) went to a place for a whole week where we learned about science and stuff. There was no kissing but I went like 5 days in a row without pooping.Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
ETA: This is the place we went --
http://www.naturesclassroom.org/nc_what.htm
Seriously, that's a bit ridiculous.For the people saying go to the police, what would you tell them and what would you expect them to do?
I just don't see the need for schools to be involved in overnight trips with elementary school children.Really? I think a trip like that could be very fun and educational. My 5th grade class (maybe 6th grade?) went to a place for a whole week where we learned about science and stuff. There was no kissing but I went like 5 days in a row without pooping.Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
ETA: This is the place we went -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature's_Classroom
WTMFUpdate 2. Wife talked to the her friend who was in the room. She described herself as deer in headlights. She said she brought it up. And the other teacher 60s something ladyy. Said it was ok and a tradition.I got a big fu for that tradition
Oh, well as long as it's been going on a long time...Update 2. Wife talked to the her friend who was in the room. She described herself as deer in headlights. She said she brought it up. And the other teacher 60s something ladyy. Said it was ok and a tradition.I got a big fu for that tradition
Well, schools shouldn't be prisons. As long as safeguards are in place to prevent creepy dudes from kissing the kids, I think the kids get a lot of value out of it.I just don't see the need for schools to be involved in overnight trips with elementary school children.Really? I think a trip like that could be very fun and educational. My 5th grade class (maybe 6th grade?) went to a place for a whole week where we learned about science and stuff. There was no kissing but I went like 5 days in a row without pooping.Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
ETA: This is the place we went -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature's_Classroom
A teacher kissed some kids on the forehead (and now it turns out there were multiple adult chaperons present as well). What do you think the police would do?Seriously, that's a bit ridiculous.For the people saying go to the police, what would you tell them and what would you expect them to do?
I'm a 4th grade teacher. Whenever I have to stay afterschool to tutor a female student, I make sure I do it in the Library where there are other adults, or if I have to I do it in my classroom, but make sure there are other witnesses to see what goes on. We had a male teacher a few years back reprimand a female student afterschool for bullying. She didn't like it, and made up a story about how the teacher touched her. She later confessed, but his career was ruined in our district.
Being a male teacher, I know there are rules and also common sense comes into play. I keep my physical contact restricted to High Fives.
That being said, this guy is a ####### creep.
Secondly, I wouldn't let my daughter go to a sleepaway camp in the 5th grade where a male teacher would have ANY access to her. I truly hope nothing more happened. Good luck.
42 ish. 20 yearswhat is the age of this teacher and how long has he been teaching
goodpostingthisWhy in the hell is a male teacher tucking in 5th grade girls??? The teacher should be fired just for being that stupid.Morning update. My wife talked to my daughter. Apparently the girls were all tucked in bed. He came around and kissed them in front of 1 other teacher and 2 parents. This whole thing friggen mystifies me.This strikes me as grooming and the women didnt stop it. Meeting the principal at 10.
Actually the whole idea of teachers doing an overnight trip with 5th graders is extremely odd. I have no idea why a school would endorse such a thing.
which is exactly what I expected.Lot of people talking about being careful around elementary school age girls here. Anytime there's an overnight or activity of any kind outside of the classroom setting, it should be 2 deep leadership (2 adults minimum), regardless of whether it's boys or girls, one or several. Also, any adults chaperoning or having contact with the kids should receive training and certification to be there beforehand, including warning signs of grooming techniques of child predators. Yes, that's a tip from the hard earned lessons of the Boy Scouts. The Catholic Church in my diocese also has required training but I don't think they've formally adopted 2 deep leadership (although they should imo).