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Wouldnt it make even more sense to do this if he WASNT in a position to retire?If you are in a financial position to retire, email them in a month for your job back at a 50% raise.
Wouldnt it make even more sense to do this if he WASNT in a position to retire?If you are in a financial position to retire, email them in a month for your job back at a 50% raise.
Can I just ask for 50% of my job back at my current rate?If you are in a financial position to retire, email them in a month for your job back at a 50% raise.
Spoke to HR a few minutes ago. She admitted that my boss has an issue with emotional intelligence. But, that she does want me to finish out my two weeks.Just listen to the guy and go tell HR that you put in your two weeks and what she did.
We don't need a thread in a week or two about how you are getting railroaded for something stupid and in trouble for something. Leave a voicemail for them now about quitting and wanting to talk to them about unprofessional behaviors.
lol...no, but this was my farewell email. (I cant take 100% credit for it, found the basic idea online and modified it)Did you leave any gifts before you left?
Congrats. I thought I might get bored hasn't happened yet.I'm retiring. (kind of)
May get a part time gig in a few months. We'll see how bored I get.
So HR basically ok'd the behavior of the boss? How big of a company is this? That's crazy...I hope you don't work too hard the next two weeks, definitely wouldn't be writing any standard work or notes on your successor to perform your position. Let them figure it outSpoke to HR a few minutes ago. She admitted that my boss has an issue with emotional intelligence. But, that she does want me to finish out my two weeks.
They don’t want him back Monday so he won’t. HR and others may not OK the behavior but that will happen behind closed doors.So HR basically ok'd the behavior of the boss? How big of a company is this? That's crazy...I hope you don't work too hard the next two weeks, definitely wouldn't be writing any standard work or notes on your successor to perform your position. Let them figure it out
No, take the job easy at a higher salary and shrug your shoulders if it gets so bad they threaten to fire you.Wouldnt it make even more sense to do this if he WASNT in a position to retire?
Weak and incompetent. Bad combo. Send her a nice “people don’t leave companies, they leave their managers” blogMidway through her rant, she did start crying.
Not sure if she was mad at me or herself at that point.
Sounds like most big businesses (consultants at least). I have a friend who basically was working 2+ jobs bc the new hire that came on to oversee everything is completely inept and chooses to spend time on dumb things like setting up group calendars while the real work piled up and deadlines missed. My friend recently moved to another office, but still does work for my office. I basically told her that she needed to let the group crash and burn in order to bring about change. They were clearly taking advantage of her and that’s not cool. As she scaled back on workload, it got worse. They are missing deadlines and the client is pissed (state agency). It’s gotten so bad other groups are considering subbing out the work to bypass this train wreck of a group. All of this is the result of poor staffing choices and a dependency/assumption for one employee. I don’t know how much more shortsighted they could be. My friend is happier now not doing everything she did before. I truly believe that everything outside of work in your life is always better and you should make all of it your priority. Getting burned out at a job where they don’t give a #### about you is not worth it.What is wrong with people?
How does your manager get to that station in life and think her reaction is the correct course of action? Sounds like an episode of The Office.
Come on, you're a FBG. We expect you to be better than this.I would start taking home office supplies.
I don't think HR okay'd it. I know that my boss and our HR director (who I spoke to) don't get along. There will be a formal exit interview before I leave.So HR basically ok'd the behavior of the boss? How big of a company is this? That's crazy...I hope you don't work too hard the next two weeks, definitely wouldn't be writing any standard work or notes on your successor to perform your position. Let them figure it out
She loves to use tools like this to "motivate" people. We've done numerous team building exercises, book clubs (5 dysfunctions of a team), etc. She fails to live by what she preaches.Weak and incompetent. Bad combo. Send her a nice “people don’t leave companies, they leave their managers” blog
Without knowing her, I think you’re giving her too much credit. I think she broke down because she’s worried how the work she is responsible for is going to get done. Sounds to me like she lacks self awareness. She thinks she’s a great boss.She loves to use tools like this to "motivate" people. We've done numerous team building exercises, book clubs (5 dysfunctions of a team), etc. She fails to live by what she preaches.
I think the bolded is why she broke down yesterday. It hit her that she was going to have to explain why her highest performer left suddenly. Her ego is taking a hit.
Would it surprise you that this is C-level position as well?What is wrong with people?
How does your manager get to that station in life and think her reaction is the correct course of action? Sounds like an episode of The Office.
Absolutely.Without knowing her, I think you’re giving her too much credit. I think she broke down because she’s worried how the work she is responsible for is going to get done. Sounds to me like she lacks self awareness. She thinks she’s a great boss.
At least it’s for the right reasonShe loves to use tools like this to "motivate" people. We've done numerous team building exercises, book clubs (5 dysfunctions of a team), etc. She fails to live by what she preaches.
I think the bolded is why she broke down yesterday. It hit her that she was going to have to explain why her highest performer left suddenly. Her ego is taking a hit.
Or do it like those stupid reveal parties, only instead of boy/girl, it's I QuitYou should have just brought in one of those “I Quit” cakes.
DamnMidway through her rant, she did start crying.
Not sure if she was mad at me or herself at that point.
Not quite the same.Or do it like those stupid reveal parties, only instead of boy/girl, it's I Quit
This is the shark move. BTW, anyone in need of any 3ring binders, staplers, sharpies, highlighters, rubber bands, and a paper shredder feel free to pm. I have a pod full of stuff that I'm looking to downsize. I also have several hundred mouse balls.I would start taking home office supplies.
This is my wife's problem. She's a special Ed teacher at a high school. She has a slightly bigger case load than all the other spec Ed teachers. She also has to teach 2 classes and co teach 4 classes where other teachers either only have to do one or the other. To top that off she gets one prep period where other teachers get 2 or 3. She's not the type of person to complain. She just puts her head down and does her job but internalizes all the stress. Meanwhile other teachers that already have a lesser workload complain that they have too much and work to get more off their plate. So when it comes time to add a new student to their caseload, administration will usually throw it on her pile because they don't want to hear the complaining from the lazy teachers.The more you get done the more they give you to do. We call it performance punishment.
Meanwhile the malcontents and lazy idiots aren’t asked to do more than the absolute minimum.
Expect them to try to dump every single project they can on you to have finished and documented before you go.Spoke to HR a few minutes ago. She admitted that my boss has an issue with emotional intelligence. But, that she does want me to finish out my two weeks.
Don't think the OP cares what they try to do at this point. He is out.Expect them to try to dump every single project they can on you to have finished and documented before you go.
This.Don't think the OP cares what they try to do at this point. He is out.
I've been measuring my blood pressure the last 2 weeks. (I take 2 bp meds and have a doctors appt on Monday). This mornings readings were the lowest of the past 2 weeks.This is my wife's problem. She's a special Ed teacher at a high school. She has a slightly bigger case load than all the other spec Ed teachers. She also has to teach 2 classes and co teach 4 classes where other teachers either only have to do one or the other. To top that off she gets one prep period where other teachers get 2 or 3. She's not the type of person to complain. She just puts her head down and does her job but internalizes all the stress. Meanwhile other teachers that already have a lesser workload complain that they have too much and work to get more off their plate. So when it comes time to add a new student to their caseload, administration will usually throw it on her pile because they don't want to hear the complaining from the lazy teachers.
It's maddeningly frustrating because the union is useless for anything other than collecting dues.
So true. If your job it's destroying your life, there are a lot of other options out there you could probably find. Very very few people are actually trapped in any kind of job. Most people think they are, but they are wrong.I've been measuring my blood pressure the last 2 weeks. (I take 2 bp meds and have a doctors appt on Monday). This mornings readings were the lowest of the past 2 weeks.
We are killing ourselves for people that could care less. I hope she finds balance and happiness.
Me too. Probably time for a new job. Less stress. Unfortunately less money too usually. But we're at that point in life trying to figure out whats more important.I've been measuring my blood pressure the last 2 weeks. (I take 2 bp meds and have a doctors appt on Monday). This mornings readings were the lowest of the past 2 weeks.
We are killing ourselves for people that could care less. I hope she finds balance and happiness.
It's nice when you know you made the correct choice with a difficult decision.I received an email from my boss titled "Resignation Accepted"? I've never received an email or anything official that stated a resignation was accepted or turned down. (is this the new norm?) I didn't think there was any other option for them but to accept it. I wonder if this is her trying to show that she has control over the situation (and me) by accepting it.Or maybe she thought there was something she could do to get me to stay.
She also requested a list of tasks that I perform daily/weekly/monthly. And that there are many things that we all do that are not in our job descriptions. (no ####) She wants to make sure nothing falls through the cracks. It's due by end of business Tuesday. She knows I have a Dr appointment on Monday and I told her I may be taking a sick day depending on how it goes. (that's all but guaranteed now, since we are only paid for banked vacation days, not sick leave when we quit.)
In closing, she did thank me for my hard work and service during my time with the organization. And wished me well in my future endeavors.
I realized that neither her, nor the HR Director, asked where I was going. I'm assuming when they find out I don't have another job lined up and I'm just retiring, there is going to be another meltdown. She will want to know why I only gave 2 weeks and not a month or more.
You have to give her a technical at that point.That's when I walked to my desk and started gathering my things. She came out of her office and started berating me again.
You would think so. We spent a lot of time going over my job description last fall making sure we were both on the same page as to what was, and wasn't, my responsibilities. She ignored most of that and gave me anything someone else couldn't handle. (which is why the job description is no longer relevant).Galileo said:What is she going to do if you don’t give her a list of what you do? Fire you?
the fact that she doesn’t know is another commentary on how good of a boss she is. Shouldn’t she know what you do?
Seems to me, that is her issue to deal with. Not yours.You would think so. We spent a lot of time going over my job description last fall making sure we were both on the same page as to what was, and wasn't, my responsibilities. She ignored most of that and gave me anything someone else couldn't handle. (which is why the job description is no longer relevant).
I assumed all along, if I said "that's not in my job description" when she assigned things to me, I'd expect corrective action. I've always been told, you do what they ask of you. Until you don't want to do it any longer. Then you head for the door.
Excellent point.maybe she confirmed you resigned so that you can not claim you were fired and seek unemployment or something take that to the bank bromigo
That sucks. The administration probably sees nothing wrong with it.Insein said:This is my wife's problem. She's a special Ed teacher at a high school. She has a slightly bigger case load than all the other spec Ed teachers. She also has to teach 2 classes and co teach 4 classes where other teachers either only have to do one or the other. To top that off she gets one prep period where other teachers get 2 or 3. She's not the type of person to complain. She just puts her head down and does her job but internalizes all the stress. Meanwhile other teachers that already have a lesser workload complain that they have too much and work to get more off their plate. So when it comes time to add a new student to their caseload, administration will usually throw it on her pile because they don't want to hear the complaining from the lazy teachers.
It's maddeningly frustrating because the union is useless for anything other than collecting dues.
For some reason I thought there was a policy where they would withhold my remaining vacation time if they did not receive 2 weeks notice. But, I just read through the policy and procedures manual, it only suggests that employees give 14 days notice. And doesn't mention the withholding of vacation time.I chuckled at her telling you your list of tasks is due by the end of business day Tuesday? What is she going to do if you don't, give you an F like it's high school?![]()
I am a believer in leaving a company the right way, but if someone reacted and treated me this way after I gave proper notice, I would not be in a hurry to help them at all on the way out.
Good for youJoe Summer said:A few years ago I was working at a job where my workload kept increasing. Several employees had quit in the previous year, but no one had been hired to replace them. When I would ask the owner about it, he would just blow me off.
After about a year, the owner finally hired someone. But the new employee and the owner both made it clear that the new guy would only be acting as a "Manager" -- and he would not be doing any of the actual work that the other employees did.
When I pointed out that this didn't really resolve the workload issues, the manager replied, "Well, that's why my job is to make sure that everyone does a better job managing their time."
The owner echoed those sentiments, and added, "If anyone has a problem with that, then they better start looking for a new job."
I started looking for a new job that afternoon, and by the end of the week I found my next gig. When I informed the owner, he blew a gasket and started screaming at me about how ungrateful and disloyal I was. I told him I was very grateful that he gave me an opportunity 15 years ago, but gratitude cannot compensate for the frustration and low morale.
He then said, "Do you realize how much you're screwing me? I'm going to have to hire two new people to fill your role!"
At that point I no longer felt bad about quitting.
Looking back, quitting that job was one of the best things I've ever done, and my only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.
In many states, they can't do that.For some reason I thought there was a policy where they would withhold my remaining vacation time if they did not receive 2 weeks notice. But, I just read through the policy and procedures manual, it only suggests that employees give 14 days notice. And doesn't mention the withholding of vacation time.
She'll deny his resignation if he doesn't do itI chuckled at her telling you your list of tasks is due by the end of business day Tuesday? What is she going to do if you don't, give you an F like it's high school?![]()
I am a believer in leaving a company the right way, but if someone reacted and treated me this way after I gave proper notice, I would not be in a hurry to help them at all on the way out.
On Tuesday, just hand her this section.I also read a nice little section on the anti-harassment policy. If I wanted to push the issue, her actions fit the description listed as harassment.