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Just stunned by a trade in my league (1 Viewer)

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ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:

 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Maybe he's like the rest of us and doesn't care about your league. :mellow: Sorry I couldn't pass on that one...........

 
Well Green and Jones are both hurt and limited when healthy (so far). That makes it a 3 for 1 deal and it is not as bad as you may think. LJ and KC will continue to struggle under the Herminator.

 
Who was team 1 gonna start at QB this week? Favre is on a bye and Green is out. Now he can play matchups with his QBs, and he has Ward when DJax and Holt are on their byes.

Team 1's RBs take a hit but Dunn is a yardage monster and the yards will come. Upgrading 2 other positions was worth it to him I guess, and he still has Dunn, Gore and Chester to start. Not bad. Not as good as the previous 3 starters, but not a bad 3some at RB.

Team 2 takes a hit to his WRs and QB (imo), and upgrades his RBs. Now hes stuck with Leinart until Green comes back, and even then I wouldnt wat to start Green. His WRs took a big hit by losing Ward and getting Jones, IMO.

As crazy as it sounds, I think Team 1 came out on the better end of the deal.

 
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I wouldn't have done it if I was team 1, but it looks like he's depth-hunting and found an owner that had what he wanted.

He got a back-up QB upgrade (at least it's a healthy guy with decent and improving numbers), a WR option for Holt's bye, and now has two flex options in Dunn and Ward for the stretch. Like I said, I would have held onto LJ (but I'm an LJ lover - not that there's anything wrong with that), but I can see his thinking and it doesn't seem crazy to me.

 
I wouldn't have done it if I was team 1, but it looks like he's depth-hunting and found an owner that had what he wanted. He got a back-up QB upgrade (at least it's a healthy guy with decent and improving numbers), a WR option for Holt's bye, and now has two flex options in Dunn and Ward for the stretch. Like I said, I would have held onto LJ (but I'm an LJ lover - not that there's anything wrong with that), but I can see his thinking and it doesn't seem crazy to me.
I'm sorry but you don't trade a guy that is gonna get the ball 400 times for a bye week wr and backup qb. This trade could work out for him if Rivers is as good as he looks but it's still a bad trade.
 
Who was team 1 gonna start at QB this week? Favre is on a bye and Green is out. Now he can play matchups with his QBs, and he has Ward when DJax and Holt are on their byes.Team 1's RBs take a hit but Dunn is a yardage monster and the yards will come. Upgrading 2 other positions was worth it to him I guess, and he still has Dunn, Gore and Chester to start. Not bad. Not as good as the previous 3 starters, but not a bad 3some at RB.Team 2 takes a hit to his WRs and QB (imo), and upgrades his RBs. Now hes stuck with Leinart until Green comes back, and even then I wouldnt wat to start Green. His WRs took a big hit by losing Ward and getting Jones, IMO.As crazy as it sounds, I think Team 1 came out on the better end of the deal.
Tough trade since LJ is the #1 RB in PPG, but I think #1 got enough to get him through the byes and he can also withstand some injuries that are bound to happen. He still has a solid group of RB's and I expect Dunn to do better than he has so far.
 
I wouldn't have done it if I was team 1, but it looks like he's depth-hunting and found an owner that had what he wanted. He got a back-up QB upgrade (at least it's a healthy guy with decent and improving numbers), a WR option for Holt's bye, and now has two flex options in Dunn and Ward for the stretch. Like I said, I would have held onto LJ (but I'm an LJ lover - not that there's anything wrong with that), but I can see his thinking and it doesn't seem crazy to me.
I'm sorry but you don't trade a guy that is gonna get the ball 400 times for a bye week wr and backup qb. This trade could work out for him if Rivers is as good as he looks but it's still a bad trade.
Dunn is chopped liver?
 
Regarding the bye week as you can imagine with 14 teams there is not much there. He picked up Andrew Walter. Which hurts of course. but that's only this week.

Matt Jones is hurt but so is Ward. Ward is just able to play withit but has admitted it has hurt him and will probably bother him all year.

But in an effort to not lose this week, I feel he has brought his team back to the pack and opened the door for future losses.

And I laughed out loud at the nobody cares post. I thought that was pretty funny. :lmao:

 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Maybe he's like the rest of us and doesn't care about your league. :mellow: Sorry I couldn't pass on that one...........
I think the people that aren't interested are probably closing the thread and moving on. You should try it.Willie

 
wraith5 said:
Regardless, when you say "no one cares," you seem to be taking it upon yourself to speak for me. Trust me when I tell you, you aren't qualified. So stick to "I" statements.
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: That is one hellishly cool line! :thumbup:
 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Can these worthless threads about trades someone doesn't like in their league get their own forum or something?

NO ONE CARES EXCEPT YOU AND YOUR LEAGUEMATES. POST IT ON YOUR LEAGUE MESSAGE BOARD.
I care. i think these discussions are just another way to see how others value certain players. too much bs bashing around here lately. lets just talk football
 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Maybe he's like the rest of us and doesn't care about your league. :mellow: Sorry I couldn't pass on that one...........
I think the people that aren't interested are probably closing the thread and moving on. You should try it.Willie
Some of you really don't have a sense of humor. First of all, I wasn't being serious with my response (apparently that wasn't clear). Second of all, I honestly thought that this thread was in the wrong forum. Why did I think that--well because another post on "trade collusion" was already moved to another forum today. This seems a lot like a "trade collusion". Sorry to cause such an outroar and I apologize for offending the OP (it wasn't my intention).
 
The thread has value. I say so. End of discussion.

If you have a problem with that feel free to send me a PM and I'll find you another board you can frequent if necessary.

 
The thread has value. I say so. End of discussion.If you have a problem with that feel free to send me a PM and I'll find you another board you can frequent if necessary.
WDIS threads have value as well, but they have their own forum.Can you all start a paranoid forum for the collusion threads or something?
 
The thread has value. I say so. End of discussion.If you have a problem with that feel free to send me a PM and I'll find you another board you can frequent if necessary.
WDIS threads have value as well, but they have their own forum.Can you all start a paranoid forum for the collusion threads or something?
Or don't send me a PM. I sent you one. No problem. Your message wasn't needed, wanted, or helpful in any way. It was arrogant, obnoxious, and just plain rude.It's a debatable trade. It isn't a discussion about collusion. It isn't a WDIS. If you don't like it, move along and find another thread to contribute to. TIA.
 
The thread has value. I say so. End of discussion.

If you have a problem with that feel free to send me a PM and I'll find you another board you can frequent if necessary.
You see?! You see what has happened here?!?!!!Now you ticked off Shick. That's not good for anybody.

 
I agree with the point about it being a trade for depth. I won't be shocked to see Johnson and Green disappoint through the second half of the season while Ward could erupt back into top 10 status. I'm not saying it will happen, but I understand the perception.

 
The thread has value. I say so. End of discussion.If you have a problem with that feel free to send me a PM and I'll find you another board you can frequent if necessary.
WDIS threads have value as well, but they have their own forum.Can you all start a paranoid forum for the collusion threads or something?
Or don't send me a PM. I sent you one. No problem. Your message wasn't needed, wanted, or helpful in any way. It was arrogant, obnoxious, and just plain rude.It's a debatable trade. It isn't a discussion about collusion. It isn't a WDIS. If you don't like it, move along and find another thread to contribute to. TIA.
:goodposting:
 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Maybe he's like the rest of us and doesn't care about your league. :mellow: Sorry I couldn't pass on that one...........
I think the people that aren't interested are probably closing the thread and moving on. You should try it.Willie
Some of you really don't have a sense of humor. First of all, I wasn't being serious with my response (apparently that wasn't clear). Second of all, I honestly thought that this thread was in the wrong forum. Why did I think that--well because another post on "trade collusion" was already moved to another forum today. This seems a lot like a "trade collusion". Sorry to cause such an outroar and I apologize for offending the OP (it wasn't my intention).
I got a chuckle out if - and then kept reading.... thanks!
 
I agree with the point about it being a trade for depth. I won't be shocked to see Johnson and Green disappoint through the second half of the season while Ward could erupt back into top 10 status. I'm not saying it will happen, but I understand the perception.
... and you have to expect Dunn to improve as well. Sounds like owner #1 has low expectations for the Chiefs the rest of the way - PIT, SD, DEN, BAL, JAX... some tougher match-ups to be sure.
 
Just to clarify, I enjoy discussing the trades in my league, but on my own league message board. Thinking one of the parties in the deal made out and debating it with my leaguemates is enjoyable...on my own league messageboard.

I'm not speaking for anyone else, but the assistant coach forum is far more fitting for these kind of threads than the Sharkpool. Obviously the mods, in particular Shick disagree. That is fine, this board isn't a democracy. If it was i'm sure a poll would show over 80% of those on the board find these league specific threads worthless in the Sharkpool.

I wasn't speaking for everybody, i was just speaking for the 90% majority. I apoligize for that.

 
Just to clarify, I enjoy discussing the trades in my league, but on my own league message board. Thinking one of the parties in the deal made out and debating it with my leaguemates is enjoyable...on my own league messageboard.I'm not speaking for anyone else, but the assistant coach forum is far more fitting for these kind of threads than the Sharkpool. Obviously the mods, in particular Shick disagree. That is fine, this board isn't a democracy. If it was i'm sure a poll would show over 80% of those on the board find these league specific threads worthless in the Sharkpool.I wasn't speaking for everybody, i was just speaking for the 90% majority. I apoligize for that.
You're entering a treacherous area here. :popcorn:
 
Just to clarify, I enjoy discussing the trades in my league, but on my own league message board. Thinking one of the parties in the deal made out and debating it with my leaguemates is enjoyable...on my own league messageboard.I'm not speaking for anyone else, but the assistant coach forum is far more fitting for these kind of threads than the Sharkpool. Obviously the mods, in particular Shick disagree. That is fine, this board isn't a democracy. If it was i'm sure a poll would show over 80% of those on the board find these league specific threads worthless in the Sharkpool.I wasn't speaking for everybody, i was just speaking for the 90% majority. I apoligize for that.
You're entering a treacherous area here. :popcorn:
How? It's an opinion. I fully understand this board isn't a democracy, everyone knows that.If the mods think these threads belong then they do, no matter what i or the vast majority think.
 
Just to clarify, I enjoy discussing the trades in my league, but on my own league message board. Thinking one of the parties in the deal made out and debating it with my leaguemates is enjoyable...on my own league messageboard.I'm not speaking for anyone else, but the assistant coach forum is far more fitting for these kind of threads than the Sharkpool. Obviously the mods, in particular Shick disagree. That is fine, this board isn't a democracy. If it was i'm sure a poll would show over 80% of those on the board find these league specific threads worthless in the Sharkpool.I wasn't speaking for everybody, i was just speaking for the 90% majority. I apoligize for that.
You're entering a treacherous area here. :popcorn:
How? It's an opinion. I fully understand this board isn't a democracy, everyone knows that.If the mods think these threads belong then they do, no matter what i or the vast majority think.
He meant your use of fractions stated as percentages - is it 80% or 90%? I thought yours was a good (almost) final thought on the subject. :P
 
You know there's so many people posting on collusion threads saying

that they hate collusion threads and that there should be a seperate

forum for them that maybe FBG should have a "Collusion threads should have

their own forum" forum. :)

 
I'm sorry but you don't trade a guy that is gonna get the ball 400 times for a bye week wr and backup qb. This trade could work out for him if Rivers is as good as he looks but it's still a bad trade.
No, you don't trade a RB that is going get 400 touches for a RB that'll get 300 + an improved back-up QB + added WR depth + flex options + bye week coverage ... but the guy involved here did. His team, his choice, not a league-wrecker.
 
As with most trades, you can look at it from a certain point of view and think it's not as bad as it looks at first.

Trent Green and Matt Jones are almost non-factors at this point. They're both hurt, and they've both done nothing when they were healthy. Sure, they could bounceback later in the season, but maybe Team A wants some healthy depth and having these two guys sucks because they can't contribute right now, but you also can't cut them - the worst kind of roster deadweight, IMO.

LJ, let's face it, has been underperforming based on his pre-season expectations. His offensive line is not as dominant as was expected, and he has some brutal match ups for the rest of the season (Chargers twice, Ravens, Broncos twice, Seahawks Jaguars). That being said, he's still Larry Johnson, his bad days are still pretty good ones for lots of RB's, and he still has great trade value.

Warrick Dunn and Hines Ward are big candidates to bounce back, IMO, and, more imporantly, maybe in Team A's opinion as well. Ward is capable of being a top 10 WR, Dunn a top 15 RB (moreso if he can find the end zone a few times, possible with Duckett gone). Rivers is a healthy alternative to Green, and Rivers could even outperform Green when he gets healhty - Green has been Herminated.

If you look at it from this point of view, it is the absolute epitome of sell high and buy low - something we FBG's dedicate numerous threads to every week.

That being said, I wouldn't have done the trade. :D

 
Instead of #####ing like a bunch of women, how come no one has asked?

IS THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE??

That would have made a huge difference. WTF guys, WTF.

 
Instead of #####ing like a bunch of women, how come no one has asked?

IS THIS A KEEPER LEAGUE??

That would have made a huge difference. WTF guys, WTF.
I was also wondering if they take off points for interceptions, since that potentially makes a difference in whether Rivers would play over Favre in many weeks.
 
"Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward"

LJ is better than Dunn, but Dunn is not the slouch you make him out to be.

Rivers is worth more than Green, and he's proven to be a good QB when he's allowed to throw. That looks like a Team 1 win. Ward is better than Jones, but both are underperforming. I'd say that's a Team 2 win.

I think Team 1 should have stuck with LJ, but it's not the worst deal I've ever seen.

 
I'm obviously in the minority, but I would have done this trade in a heartbeat, and laughed about it. Guy trades one underperforming starter (who most of us can see will likely continue to underperform), for a WR with top ten potential, a QB with a ton of potential but nobody is too sure where to rank, and a RB who should be in the starting lineup on a weekly basis?

How is this a bad trade? At WORST, he gains depth while sacrificing little or nothing from his starting lineup. At best, he makes his starting lineup stronger on a weekly basis.

Rivers may well outperform Green (even when Green is healthy)

Dunn will be close to LJ, and it isn't that big a stretch at this point to say he COULD outperform him.

Ward will outperform JOnes (most likely), and has the talent and potential to be a top ten reciever.

This should be a no-brainer, imho....team one made a fantastic shark-like deal.

 
I see no problem. I dont understand why people insist in interfearing with other owners. They paid for their team. Let them use their brain instead of yours.

 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Did the ignorant guy win this week with Rivers/Gore/Dunn/Holt/DJax/Ward/et al???
 
ok this is a 14 team league starting 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 te 1 k 1 def. Scoring is aggressive where RB receiving yards are favored. A good week of scoring is 130-150 points. Makes for some exciting games.

Anyway Team #1 is an owner since inception (7 years) and is very sharp, won a title 2 years ago. Currently is 4-1 and the league points leader. Team#2 won a title 5 years ago and has come in last place 2x in the last three years.

Here are the rosters with starters in bold

Team #1 roster

Favre, Green

LJ, Gore, Chester T., Morris, Musa Smith, C Perry

D Jackson, T Holt, Curry, Matt Jones, T Taylor, R White

Dal Clark, Des Clark

Kaeding

Chargers

Team #2 Roster

Warner, Leinart, Rivers

Dunn, T Bell, Ron Brown, S Morris, Davenport, Moats

Bruce, Ward, Rod Smith, D Gabriel, Stokely, Northcutt, M Williams

Tony G

Kasay

Panthers

Team #1 trades Trent Green, Larry Johnson and Matt Jones and gets Rivers, Dunn, and Hines Ward

LJ is the #2 rb in our league and # 8 overall. Green obviously has been hurt and Matt Jones is ranked 70

However, Rivers is ranked 24th among QB, Dunn is ranked 27th among RB, and HInes ward is ranked 68th among WR. :shock:

Team #1 thinks this is the trade of the year! I cannot show him he has been ripped off here by Team #2

I am stunned by his ignorance here?! :shock: :wall:
Did the ignorant guy win this week with Rivers/Gore/Dunn/Holt/DJax/Ward/et al???
:goodposting:
 
It doesnt matter whether or not you think the trade was fair. It only matters if you think the owners were colluding

 

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