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Just who are the Fascist? (1 Viewer)

D Baseball said:
Oh look, hit piece opinions are being passed off as evidence of something. Nice work. 
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Those are opinion pieces or actual reporting about the content of his show?   I assume you just looked that URLs without reading or watching.  Cool.

 
 
sho nuff said:
On par with Carlson’s Daily Caller which hasn’t had accusations of supporting white nationalists.
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If you've done anything but condemn this assault against Carlsons home you are basically condoning it. Evil flourishes when good men stay silent. 

 
D Baseball said:
If you've done anything but condemn this assault against Carlsons home you are basically condoning it. Evil flourishes when good men stay silent. 
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If you've done anything but condemn Trump's assault against other ethnicities,  free and fair voting, democrats, liberals, homosexuals, health care, freedom of the press, presidential behavior and norms, overwhelming evidence of  commission of numerous types of fraud, collusion and myriad other shenanigans then you are basically condoning it.

Evil flourishes when good men and women are brainwashed by 3 decades of right wing media lies. 

 
jon_mx said:
msommer said:
Is the whining rhetorical? Enquiring minds would like to know

(By now it's ecpected, but has it moved up?)
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Everything the right does on this forum is mischaracterized as whining or trolling and it is usually done by the biggest whiners and trolls on the left. 
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No, just everything you do. You start threads just so you can play the victim. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 
D Baseball said:
And then immediately made excuses, blaming it on TC's and Fox News rhetoric. Which you obviously never bother to watch. Doesn't work that way. 
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Link to where I did as you claimed?  Don’t run away again...back up your assertion to me making excuses for those people.

 
Guys you are getting this needlessly confused. If antifa, who is anti-fascist, is against tucker Carlson, that by definition makes tucker Carlson a fascist. That's what words mean.

 
sho nuff said:
Very few have excused the behavior...most have called it over the line and that people should be arrested if caught.  Apparently the police were called...did the people scatter?  Was the door actually cracked as claimed?

As for Tucker being responsible...the post was quite clear in saying rhetoric like his and those at Fox played a roll...given the shooters words, that appears to be a logical conclusion made by a poster.  

And yes...the previous thread and its starter was suggested as trolling...as is anyone who posts something blaming a "side" and then does not respond to any post.  When you make large assertions, don't back them up, and don't reply or engage when people are questioning the assertion, it leads a logical person to believe that it was done to elicit a reaction.  That is the very definition of trolling jon.

And your post was not the first time you and others have made assertions like that about the board...and its been false every single time.  
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Looks like someone is blaming Tucker and Fox for their roll in this attack on his home and family by that mob of deranged leftists. That's some sad excuse making right there. 

 
D Baseball said:
Looks like someone is blaming Tucker and Fox for their roll in this attack on his home and family by that mob of deranged leftists. That's some sad excuse making right there. 
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Looks like you need help following context and discussion.  The second paragraph about Carlson and Fox related to rhetoric about the synagogue shooting.  It in no way excused this group that showed up at his home.

I don’t expect you will admit you made a mistake and a false claim about me...but it’s clear you did.

 
sho nuff said:
Looks like you need help following context and discussion.  The second paragraph about Carlson and Fox related to rhetoric about the synagogue shooting.  It in no way excused this group that showed up at his home.

I don’t expect you will admit you made a mistake and a false claim about me...but it’s clear you did.
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Agree to disagree. 

 
D Baseball said:
Agree to disagree. 
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That doesn’t work really well.  You made a claim about something I said...posted a link not backing up your assertion.  This isn’t some disagreement in opinion...it’s you misstating the facts and actual words said.  It’s making false claims about a poster.  Not very excellent of you.  Very frowned upon in this board.

 
sho nuff said:
That doesn’t work really well.  You made a claim about something I said...posted a link not backing up your assertion.  This isn’t some disagreement in opinion...it’s you misstating the facts and actual words said.  It’s making false claims about a poster.  Not very excellent of you.  Very frowned upon in this board.
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I clearly pointed out your statement that TC's rheotoric played a roll in the unjust attack by that mob on his home and family

 
D Baseball said:
I clearly pointed out your statement that TC's rheotoric played a roll in the unjust attack by that mob on his home and family
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No...you very clearly pointed out that I clarified that another poster stated Carlson’s and foxes rhetoric played a role in the synagogue shootings.

Your posts are false...I doubt you will be around long if you continue posting this way and making false assertions about people.  Good day

 
sho nuff said:
No...you very clearly pointed out that I clarified that another poster stated Carlson’s and foxes rhetoric played a role in the synagogue shootings.

Your posts are false...I doubt you will be around long if you continue posting this way and making false assertions about people.  Good day
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And you agreed with that posters statement. Anyhow, it seems you're determined to get me in some sort of trouble. I guess you can if you want. Good day to you as well. 

 
D Baseball said:
And you agreed with that posters statement. Anyhow, it seems you're determined to get me in some sort of trouble. I guess you can if you want. Good day to you as well. 
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So you agree the posters sentiment was about the synagogue and not the antifa group at Carlson’s home?

 
sho nuff said:
So you agree the posters sentiment was about the synagogue and not the antifa group at Carlson’s home?
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I feel you're just trying to get an excuse to make a report against me. I'd rather not continue with this. Please respect my wish not to continue. Thanks 

 
D Baseball said:
I feel you're just trying to get an excuse to make a report against me. I'd rather not continue with this. Please respect my wish not to continue. Thanks 
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No I won’t report it.  You seem to want to avoid admitting you were wrong in making that original claim about me.  And this time can’t blame it on believing fake news.

 
So this whole mob attack turned out to be 13-15 people, who knocked on the door 3 times, left a sign leaned against the front porch, chanted for awhile, and walked away?  That police were there and arrested no one? And there's no police  report of any crime, although police are looking for the 1 person who spray painted an A on the driveway?

You mean there was no broken front door, no threats of a pipe bomb?

I thought something massive and violent had happened. Grade: C-....Did not live up to advertised description.

Good thing there's a first-person account of it and video.

 
fatness said:
So this whole mob attack turned out to be 13-15 people, who knocked on the door 3 times, left a sign leaned against the front porch, chanted for awhile, and walked away?  That police were there and arrested no one? And there's no police  report of any crime, although police are looking for the 1 person who spray painted an A on the driveway?

You mean there was no broken front door, no threats of a pipe bomb?

I thought something massive and violent had happened. Grade: C-....Did not live up to advertised description.

Good thing there's a first-person account of it and video.
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Interesting how things change.

The chants were out of line...no doubt.

But (hey baseball guy), it isn’t as first presented in the very forth thread on this. Where there was talk about the kids being there (they weren’t) or the story Carlson told about the door being broken (it appears it wasn’t).

Still out of line going to people’s homes and there is no excuse for that.

 
sho nuff said:
That doesn’t work really well.  You made a claim about something I said...posted a link not backing up your assertion.  This isn’t some disagreement in opinion...it’s you misstating the facts and actual words said.  It’s making false claims about a poster.  Not very excellent of you.  Very frowned upon in this board.
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That's a falsehood

 
W. Kamau Bell (among many many others) was repeatedly threatened by right-wing goons after being the subject of Carlson's on-air "punditry." Daily Caller has engaged in doxxing leftist activists. 

First hand account and video shows a very small and peaceful protest, without actual threat (although stating "we know where you sleep at night" could certainly be construed as a threatening statement). The act of vandalism committed (front door was not damaged) was someone spray painting an anarchist A symbol on the driveway.  For which the individual that committed that act was ostracized by other protesters.  Cops were on site. No one was hurt. 

I still think it's poor form and would have no problem with the protesters being cited for trespassing and the individual for vandalism.  But I gotta say-

Karma is a big, bright, beautiful #####.

 
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Herb said:
W. Kamau Bell (among many many others) was repeatedly threatened by right-wing goons after being the subject of Carlson's on-air "punditry." Daily Caller has engaged in doxxing leftist activists. 

First hand account and video shows a very small and peaceful protest, without actual threat (although stating "we know where you sleep at night" could certainly be construed as a threatening statement). The act of vandalism committed (front door was not damaged) was someone spray painting an anarchist A symbol on the driveway.  For which the individual that committed that act was ostracized by other protesters.  Cops were on site. No one was hurt. 

I still think it's poor form and would have no problem with the protesters being cited for trespassing and the individual for vandalism.  But I gotta say-

Karma is a big, bright, beautiful #####.
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Kind of like the mouthy guy at the bar getting knocked out, only Tucker - who has a very punchable face, especially when he's listening to a guest on his show - didn't get punched.

 
fatness said:
So this whole mob attack turned out to be 13-15 people, who knocked on the door 3 times, left a sign leaned against the front porch, chanted for awhile, and walked away?  That police were there and arrested no one? And there's no police  report of any crime, although police are looking for the 1 person who spray painted an A on the driveway?

You mean there was no broken front door, no threats of a pipe bomb?

I thought something massive and violent had happened. Grade: C-....Did not live up to advertised description.

Good thing there's a first-person account of it and video.
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In other words, this whole thing was a nothingburger, just as most of us suspected.

 
D Baseball said:
Rationalizing this behavior. Wow. We are in trouble as a nation. 
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That isn’t what happened again.  You are making false assertions as to what people are doing.

Pointing out that the situation was exaggerated is not rationalizing their behavior.

 
Herb said:
W. Kamau Bell (among many many others) was repeatedly threatened by right-wing goons after being the subject of Carlson's on-air "punditry." Daily Caller has engaged in doxxing leftist activists. 

First hand account and video shows a very small and peaceful protest, without actual threat (although stating "we know where you sleep at night" could certainly be construed as a threatening statement). The act of vandalism committed (front door was not damaged) was someone spray painting an anarchist A symbol on the driveway.  For which the individual that committed that act was ostracized by other protesters.  Cops were on site. No one was hurt. 

I still think it's poor form and would have no problem with the protesters being cited for trespassing and the individual for vandalism.  But I gotta say-

Karma is a big, bright, beautiful #####.
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So His wife deserved it. Because she's the main victim here. Real nice. And they didn't know his kids weren't home. But it's a nothingburger. 

 
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Speaking of Tucker Carlson...(and yes, this may turn out to be a nothingburger, too, since the video does not show what Avenatti alleges it shows).

https://hillreporter.com/tucker-carlson-allegedly-involved-in-assault-of-gay-immigrant-13853

Tucker Carlson Allegedly Involved in Assault of Gay Immigrant

Moments ago, Attorney Michael Avenatti tweeted that he is investigating an alleged assault committed by Fox News’ Tucker Carlson and/or members of his inner circle.  The incident that apparently took place at a club in Virginia last month is at least partially corroborated through a video (seen below) — although no violence or assault is depicted in the video (shown at above link).

Avenatti also says that the incident ‘likely includes underage drinking in violation of VA law’, although no more details of these allegations have yet to be released.

“We are attempting to locate additional witnesses and to identify those depicted in the video,” Avenatti tweeted. “In particular, we need assistance identifying the balding man that grabs the man seated at the bar. We anticipate charges being filed. Anyone with knowledge, pls contact us.”

The video, which can be seen above, was also tweeted by Avenatti.  It clearly shows Tucker Carlson repeatedly cursing, and telling another individual to “get the f–k out of here” several times.

Avenatti went on to respond to an individual asking him what the video reveals, by saying, “You mean other than Tucker repeatedly cursing a guy out seated at the bar while a friend/associate of his makes a bee line for the guy, grabs him off his chair, and then threatens violence?”

 
D Baseball said:
So His wife deserved it. Because she's the main victim here. Real nice. And they didn't know his kids weren't home. But it's a nothingburger. 
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The Carlsons named one of their daughters Hopie.  They deserve to be harassed.

 
D Baseball said:
So His wife deserved it. Because she's the main victim here. Real nice. And they didn't know his kids weren't home. But it's a nothingburger. 
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Seems like we're done here. You have your narrative and nothing will change it.  What will be your excuse when your heroic leader gets indicted and/or impeached?

That's a rhetorical question.  

 
Herb said:
Seems like we're done here. You have your narrative and nothing will change it.  What will be your excuse when your heroic leader gets indicted and/or impeached?

That's a rhetorical question.  
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My narrative? I have the facts. His home was attacked. Plain and simple, and it's being excused. If you can't just condemn this and that's it, no justification, no excuses , then you're just blinded by hate. And that's sad. 

 
People should harass Tucker at work not at home. Going to peoples homes like that is awful and dangerous. Just like Tucker’s stupid show. 

 
D Baseball said:
My narrative? I have the facts. His home was attacked. Plain and simple, and it's being excused. If you can't just condemn this and that's it, no justification, no excuses , then you're just blinded by hate. And that's sad. 
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I did not excuse it. I suggested the perpetrators be charged.   I would qualify that as condemnation.  His home was not "attacked." No one was ever in any danger.

The garbage that Mr. Carlson spews on a nightly basis is sad.

 
Herb said:
I did not excuse it. I suggested the perpetrators be charged.   I would qualify that as condemnation.  His home was not "attacked." No one was ever in any danger.

The garbage that Mr. Carlson spews on a nightly basis is sad.
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Forget it...it’s been shown he won’t admit when he is wrong.

Time to put him out to pasture with the others.

 
Dedfin said:
Guys you are getting this needlessly confused. If antifa, who is anti-fascist, is against tucker Carlson, that by definition makes tucker Carlson a fascist. That's what words mean.
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There isn't a sane person who thinks Antifa is anti-fascist. Their actions are the very definition of fascism.

You may want to Google the term doublespeak.

 
D Baseball said:
I feel you're just trying to get an excuse to make a report against me. I'd rather not continue with this. Please respect my wish not to continue. Thanks 
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That is his MO here. Antagonize posters who disagree with him and keep it up until they respond in kind, then report them. 

Which is why he is on the ignore hall of fame.

And an annual finalist in the contest over at e.

 
Herb said:
W. Kamau Bell (among many many others) was repeatedly threatened by right-wing goons after being the subject of Carlson's on-air "punditry." Daily Caller has engaged in doxxing leftist activists. 

First hand account and video shows a very small and peaceful protest, without actual threat (although stating "we know where you sleep at night" could certainly be construed as a threatening statement). The act of vandalism committed (front door was not damaged) was someone spray painting an anarchist A symbol on the driveway.  For which the individual that committed that act was ostracized by other protesters.  Cops were on site. No one was hurt. 

I still think it's poor form and would have no problem with the protesters being cited for trespassing and the individual for vandalism.  But I gotta say-

Karma is a big, bright, beautiful #####.
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The fact that any of you defend these radical animals is highly disturbing.

Joe has allowed this place to turn into a lefty version if StormFront.

 
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