Justice Scalia Dead (1 Viewer)

[Mister CIA]

There best action is for Obama to nominate Hillary to be Scalia's replacement.

Win for the Republicans because they will feel confident about winning the presidency and winning the long con to appoint more justices.

Win for the Democrats because the Republicans are a trainwreck and won't win anyway.

Win for Bill Clinton because he can cross "banging a Supreme Court Justice" off of his bucket list.

The only flaw in this line of reasoning is that the Clintons stand to lose a few hundred million dollars.

I beat you to it; I suggested he appoint Bernie.

But I was reading through the thread to see if anyone else had suggested it. If I were the kind of person who thoughtlessly posted every thought that popped into my head, I would have beaten you.

 

[Mister CIA]

There best action is for Obama to nominate Hillary to be Scalia's replacement.

Win for the Republicans because they will feel confident about winning the presidency and winning the long con to appoint more justices.

Win for the Democrats because the Republicans are a trainwreck and won't win anyway.

Win for Bill Clinton because he can cross "banging a Supreme Court Justice" off of his bucket list.

The only flaw in this line of reasoning is that the Clintons stand to lose a few hundred million dollars.

How so? Being on the SC hasn't stopped Roberts and Thomas from raking in the special interest money.

It's all about the magnitudes.

 

[Uwe Blab]

9 children. 28 grandchildren. Holy crap

Jesus, Judge. Buy a condom.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

We'll always have "pure applesauce."

 

[NCCommish]

There won't be any names floated until after the funeral probably.

 

[FattyVM]

Alot of ignorance in this thread... and i'll assume it's from those who haven't actually read the man's decisions. Whether you agreed with his viewpoint, or not, he was a brilliant mind and a persuasive writer. I'll chalk this up to a loss for the court.

What's the running assumption on the appointees for the next president 3? 4? This is pretty big.

 

[snogger]

What happens to the cases being heard by the Supreme Court right now? Were they not going to start weighing in on immigration and such?

4-4 decisions revert to the decision made my the lower court.

My question is about upcoming hearings like the immigration one mentioned above.. I can't imagine they'd start hearing the case knowing that at best another judge gets appointed while they are in the middle of the hearing.. Any precedent on this

 

[chauncey]

natural causes or was this a situation where they'll find something in his hotel room?

This sounds like one of those typical Clinton murders.

 

[tangfoot]

What happens to the cases being heard by the Supreme Court right now? Were they not going to start weighing in on immigration and such?

4-4 decisions revert to the decision made my the lower court.

My question is about upcoming hwarings like the immigration one mentioned above.. I can't imagine they'd start hearing the case knowing that at best another judge gets appointed while they are in tge middle oh the hearing.. Any precedent on thus

Their docket will not be changed. I would assume a new Justice would not vote on any case that they have not personally worked through.

 

[timschochet]

natural causes or was this a situation where they'll find something in his hotel room?

This sounds like one of those typical Clinton murders.

Wow these posts get worse and worse

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

There must be some antiquated law somewhere that allows for the lead custodian to serve as SC Justice until one is appointed. Disney movie maybe? Wasn't that what Stiller did in his last movie? Oh, that was a security guard.

 

[Smack Tripper]

9 children. 28 grandchildren. Holy crap

Jesus, Judge. Buy a condom.

Here comes the judge Here comes the judge

 

[timschochet]

Alot of ignorance in this thread... and i'll assume it's from those who haven't actually read the man's decisions. Whether you agreed with his viewpoint, or not, he was a brilliant mind and a persuasive writer. I'll chalk this up to a loss for the court.

Thank you.

 

[Riversco]

I hope we can get a middle of the road appointee. Don't think it will happen, but I would rather see a liberal leaning justice over a religious conservative one.

Yup. More representative of what our country is becoming. Religion is waning here. That's something the right can't or won't recognize.

The republicans can argue that Latinos are the future of america and because Latinos have such a strong religious belief, they will fight to ensure the net appointment is religious to respect their beliefs.

Well then they should probably tone down the racist rhetoric and need to build a wall.

Trump hasn't won yet. They can disavow the wall rhetoric today and then embrace it next year. Win-win.

Wow, you really don't think Latino voters have any intelligence at all, do you?

Your sarcasm meter is busted.

 

[HellToupee]

RIP

 

[Riversco]

Alot of ignorance in this thread... and i'll assume it's from those who haven't actually read the man's decisions. Whether you agreed with his viewpoint, or not, he was a brilliant mind and a persuasive writer. I'll chalk this up to a loss for the court.

What's the running assumption on the appointees for the next president 3? 4? This is pretty big.

We don't know anything, really.

 

[massraider]

I was sure Ted Cruz was a Constitutionalist. Heck, why wouldn't he want the POTUS to choose the next justice? That's really weird.

 

[HellToupee]

Wow. How quick is the turn around on replacing them? Was he expected to retire soon?

He was not going to retire with Obama being able to nominate a replacement. Obama will likely give a quick name but the Senate will hold it up as much as possible.

Bump for Hillary if Obama can't get it done this year. Can't take any chances with Sanders wth the stakes this high.

This guy is walking around with a full head of steam in his pants

 

[Riversco]

I was sure Ted Cruz was a Constitutionalist. Heck, why wouldn't he want the POTUS to choose the next justice? That's really weird.

I would be shocked if 10% of the people knew what Constitutionalist means AND cared enough to let it effect their vote.

 

[Thunderlips]

There won't be any names floated until after the funeral probably.

Republicans will probably fillibuster that too.

 

[QuizGuy66]

So Cruz is basically calling upon the Senate to reject ANY Obama appointment and wait until after the election when a Republican might win? Is there any historical precedent for that?

About a dozen and a half justices have been appointed in an election year. Most recently Kennedy in '88

-QG

 

[MaxThreshold]

There won't be any names floated until after the funeral probably.

Republicans will probably fillibuster that too.

Isn't it the Senate's job to vet Supreme Court candidates? Or are they just supposed to rubber stamp nominees and do whatever the President wants? Asking for a friend.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Really hoping Maurile gets the nomination.

 

[Thunderlips]

There won't be any names floated until after the funeral probably.

Republicans will probably fillibuster that too.

Isn't it the Senate's job to vet Supreme Court candidates? Or are they just supposed to rubber stamp nominees and do whatever the President wants? Asking for a friend.

It doesn't need to get to that if they just fillibuster Scalia's funeral to prevent it from ending.

 

[NutterButter]

this is not a good position for republicans to be in. not only do they risk the potus, but the senate as well.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Very dicey precedent to do this to a president with 11 months left in office.

What if a justice dies two years out from the election next Time?

 

[bakes]

this is not a good position for republicans to be in. not only do they risk the potus, but the senate as well.

They will never see it that way, not in a million years.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Very dicey precedent to do this to a president with 11 months left in office.

What if a justice dies two years out from the election next Time?

I think if Hillary wins this Senate is prepared to go down to as few as one Supreme Court Justice if necessary.

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Interesting thing pointed out by legal scholar on MSNBC.

For any cases where the justices have voted on but have not issued an opinion, Scalia's vote no longer counts. So any cases where the vote was 5-4 with Scalia in the majority will now revert to 4-4.

-QG

 

[jamny]

RIP Justice Scalia

An already crazy election season just got crazier.

 

[Mario Kart]

Very dicey precedent to do this to a president with 11 months left in office.

What if a justice dies two years out from the election next Time?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Very dicey precedent to do this to a president with 11 months left in office.

 

[sho nuff]

Ted Cruz @tedcruz

Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.

Wtf? Cruz didn't even wait till the second text

Posters in this thread were in here disrespecting him faster than cruz was with his tweet.

Because FFA posters should be held to a higher standard than those running for President?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Hill ‏@thehill 1h1 hour ago

JUST IN: Judiciary Cmte member's spox says "zero" chance Obama appoints Scalia replacement http://hill.cm/eBEvcrv

#shocker

- Close it up boys, all the chips are in the middle of the table for the presidential election.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Obama just announced he'll nominate someone. Would bet money it's another highly respected moderate left type.

High risk stuff not to confirm IMO. The deal Reps can get now (a moderate) might look very very different if the obstruction helps elect a Dem President.

 

[cosjobs]

Was the Citizens United vote 5-4?

So a lot of 4-4 votes this year with Biden as the tie-breaker? Great opportunity here. redacted

I think Obama should nominate a moderate/liberal Hispanic. The Repubs blocking such a nomination might be the death knell for their party.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Matt Mackowiak ‏@MattMackowiak 20m20 minutes ago

Remember: Harry Reid blocked Miguel Estrada for two years. Two years. Senate will be out from July-late Nov in election year.

- Estrada - Hispanic guy, right?

 

[Smack Tripper]

Very dicey precedent to do this to a president with 11 months left in office.

What if a justice dies two years out from the election next Time?

As I understand it the longest a seat had sat vacant pending confirmation is 125 days. This would be nearly 2.5 times as long.a wait. If I. Have bad information I'm certainly willing to amend my thoughts. Stonewalling a confirmation would not sit well

With me.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Was the Citizens United vote 5-4?

So a lot of 4-4 votes this year with Biden as the tie-breaker? Great opportunity here.

I think Obama should nominate a moderate/liberal Hispanic. The Repubs blocking such a nomination might be the death knell for their party.

How does Biden come in?

- eta - An Hispanic is soooo obvious.

 

[cosjobs]

Trump will order Obama to appoint a conservative and threaten him by saying if he fails to do so, Trump will just expand the court to 11.

... and make Obama pay for it

 

[Higgs]

Please don't share this elsewhere.... Just spoke with my nephew who did some work with Scalia. He also worked in the West Wing so he's also pretty tied in to that scene as well. His guess is that Obama will appoint Sri Srinivasan. He described him as a little Left leaning to Moderate.

My nephew is Liberal but Scalia was his favorite Justice. He's pretty upset.

 

[Poncho]

The courts been 5-4 forever. Wow.

The court is as crooked as politicians, good riddance to all of them....

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The courts been 5-4 forever. Wow.

Just on social issues. On financial and commerce regulation issues it has often been near 9-0 or lined up totally differently in many decisions. People don't care about that stuff but it's much more important.

 

[cstu]

Service Birth Name, state Assoc. Justice Chief Justice Yrs Place Date Died ReligionAntonin Scalia, DC 1986– — N.J. 1936 2016 Roman CatholicAnthony M. Kennedy, CA 1988– — Calif. 1936 — Roman CatholicClarence Thomas, DC 1991– — Ga. 1948 — Roman CatholicRuth B. Ginsburg, DC 1993– — N.Y. 1933 — JewishStephen G. Breyer, MA 1994– — Calif. 1938 — JewishJohn G. Roberts, DC - 2005 N.Y. 1955 — Roman CatholicSamuel A. Alito, N.J. 2006– — N.J. 1950 — Roman CatholicSonia Sotomayor N.Y. 2009– — N.Y. 1954 — Roman CatholicElena Kagan N.Y. 2010– — N.Y. 1960 — JewishBy the end of the next President's first term Kennedy will be 84, Ginsburg will be 87, and Breyer will be 82.

 

[sho nuff]

There best action is for Obama to nominate Hillary to be Scalia's replacement.

Win for the Republicans because they will feel confident about winning the presidency and winning the long con to appoint more justices.

Win for the Democrats because the Republicans are a trainwreck and won't win anyway.

Win for Bill Clinton because he can cross "banging a Supreme Court Justice" off of his bucket list.

The only flaw in this line of reasoning is that the Clintons stand to lose a few hundred million dollars.

The flaw is that you assume Bill has not already banged an SC Justice.

 

[njherdfan]

Matt Mackowiak ‏@MattMackowiak 20m20 minutes ago

Remember: Harry Reid blocked Miguel Estrada for two years. Two years. Senate will be out from July-late Nov in election year.

- Estrada - Hispanic guy, right?

That's a Court of Appeals position, not a Supreme Court position. The current Republicans have been blocking Court of Appeals judges for that long as well. I don't support doing that for either party, but it's completely different from a Supreme Court position.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Service Birth Name, state Assoc. Justice Chief Justice Yrs Place Date Died ReligionAntonin Scalia, DC 1986– — N.J. 1936 2016 Roman CatholicAnthony M. Kennedy, CA 1988– — Calif. 1936 — Roman CatholicClarence Thomas, DC 1991– — Ga. 1948 — Roman CatholicRuth B. Ginsburg, DC 1993– — N.Y. 1933 — JewishStephen G. Breyer, MA 1994– — Calif. 1938 — JewishJohn G. Roberts, DC - 2005 N.Y. 1955 — Roman CatholicSamuel A. Alito, N.J. 2006– — N.J. 1950 — Roman CatholicSonia Sotomayor N.Y. 2009– — N.Y. 1954 — Roman CatholicElena Kagan N.Y. 2010– — N.Y. 1960 — JewishBy the end of the next President's first term Kennedy will be 84, Ginsburg will be 87, and Breyer will be 82.

Good lord, 6 Catholics and 3 Jews, amen.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Matt Mackowiak ‏@MattMackowiak 20m20 minutes ago

Remember: Harry Reid blocked Miguel Estrada for two years. Two years. Senate will be out from July-late Nov in election year.

- Estrada - Hispanic guy, right?

That's a Court of Appeals position, not a Supreme Court position. The current Republicans have been blocking Court of Appeals judges for that long as well. I don't support doing that for either party, but it's completely different from a Supreme Court position.

Not doubting you but why? Popular pressure?

 

[bud29]

Wow. How quick is the turn around on replacing them? Was he expected to retire soon?

He was not going to retire with Obama being able to nominate a replacement. Obama will likely give a quick name but the Senate will hold it up as much as possible.

Bump for Hillary if Obama can't get it done this year. Can't take any chances with Sanders wth the stakes this high.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Please don't share this elsewhere.... Just spoke with my nephew who did some work with Scalia. He also worked in the West Wing so he's also pretty tied in to that scene as well. His guess is that Obama will appoint Sri Srinivasan. He described him as a little Left leaning to Moderate.

My nephew is Liberal but Scalia was his favorite Justice. He's pretty upset.

Well someone should reply to this.

Great insight, thanks.

I think Sri was on the short list last time.