Justin Blackmon Can't Put the Bottle Down! (1 Viewer)

[Bronx Bomber]

[many of you obviously haven't partied in today's college environment. binge drinking happens everywhere and while i agree it's a problem - most of these kids can still be successful in their endeavors and become model citizens. they have weekend benders then go to school or work on monday. he's gotten behind the wheel and now he's gotten caught twice, who knows how many times he's done this - i think it's beside the point. he's young and obviously dumb... but as i've said and as skeletor is saying people are making a knee jerk reaction about how big of a problem this really is. no one knows what is really going on here and it seems like there's a lot of holier than thou bias happening.

First, today’s college environment doesn’t offer any more or less opportunity for binge drinking than back in the day. Second, most of these “kids” being successful despite drinking binges is a statement that can’t really be backed up by statistics. I think that statement actually is doubtful. From experience, I’ve seen many college students drink their way out of their chosen major, only to settle for something easier or quit school altogether and get a blue collar job. Third, no one here is “holier than thou”. In my younger days, I remember driving home and being buzzed and figured I’d get away with it. And I did. I was lucky and stupid. Of course, I drank socially and knew that 5 or 6 drinks a night was pushing it. Even while drunk or buzzed, I still knew had the capacity to gage what was crossing the line. I never had or wanted the need to drink a 18 or 24 pack of beer. Why does anyone do this btw? I can’t imagine thinking about driving with that many drinks in my system. It doesn’t make me proud to admit I got lucky and I never had a DUI. But I was also never a seasoned, polished power-drinker either. I know a few of these types, and even they are smart enough to know to take a cab. Blackmon is that dangerous combination of power-drunk who is not self-aware. He didn't get there overnight, it must have taken some serious practice. So again, it's not an isolated thing. It's not just happenstance that he was caught the only 2 times he's done this.

Good post. I was just going to write something similar about my experience. I actually think Werdnoynek and Carl are making the same agruement. Obviously he can play football(ie: function). But its also obvious he's had a lot of practice partying/binge drinking (or hes just freakish in his ablity to hold a ton of alchohol if in fact he doesnt drink a lot).

 

[5-ish Finkle]

"Self Aware Power-Drunks" is my new fantasy team name....and would also be awesome for a band.

 

[msommer]

So if he had done the smart thing and taken a taxi or hired a limo we'd likely not known of his possible issue. We'd have no amount of people on soap boxes, no suggestions for intervention and/or counseling, in fact, potentially even if stories or pictures had surfaced we'd more than likely initially have thought he was just a young man doing the college thing, a bit longer than normal...

Would his draft position be markedly different that it is now? Should it?

 

[werdnoynek]

"Self Aware Power-Drunks" is my new fantasy team name....and would also be awesome for a band.

ETA: i'm officially done trying to bring some sense to this. i didn't realize we had so many substance abuse counselors and doctors among us in the pool.

 

[KCitons]

1) 0.24 BAC isn't a problem? Where does it become a problem in your eyes Skeletore? Most wouldn't be walking at 0.24, so for Blackmon is 0.40 a problem? At what point?2) 2 DUI's isn't a problem? At what point? 6 DUI's? Causing an accident? Running over a pedestrian? Where does the problem begin?

This here is exactly why I see it as alarming. I don't have any scientific evidence to site here, but based on my own personal experience what you are saying in point 1 is pretty accurate. In my younger years, when I was regularly hitting bars and drinking, it would take a lot more alcohol for me to start feeling the effects. Hence the phrases, "he can hold his liquor." The more you drink, the more conditioned it seems your body is to "holding your liquor" and the less you seem effected by it. I could easily drink 7 or 8 beers in a relatively short amount of time and not become sloppy. Drunk sure, but not sloppy. Now that I'm older and out of the bar hopping life if I were to drink 7 or 8 beers in a short amount of time I'd be falling all over myself and likely puking as well. As a matter of fact this happened not too long ago after a night out with some old friends and a couple bottles of wine (don't worry, my wife was forced to drive me home!).Again, I don't know if this is backed up by hard evidence or not but it seems to me that the more you drink the more you can handle it. So, the fact that he consumed that much alcohol and was still functional enough to do the things he did leads me to believe this wasn't his first go at it. I'm not saying he is cursed here or that he is an alcoholic. Perhaps he's just living the good life until he starts his NFL career. Either way, it seems some people are trying to act as though there are no possible risks here at all and that seems foolish to me. Even if Blackmon does have a drinking problem or is an alcoholic he is still young enough that he could get the proper help and turn it around. In the end, none of us really know what the story actually is. We just get to watch it unfold.

Yes, there is hard evidence and a scientific term called alcohol tolerance. Alcohol tolerance is defined as the body's ability to adapt and get use to alcohol being in the system. Alcohol tolerance occurs when the body sees a regular stream of alcohol. Those in the medical field know it has to do with upregulation of GABA receptors. Alcohol tolerance is a very real thing with a physiological explanation. The fact that Blackmon had a 0.24 BAC and was still functioning in fact does show he has a "high tolerance" to alcohol and he does in fact frequently drink.....which is required to obtain tolerance.

Then based on these facts we can draw one of two conclusions. 1 -Blackmon has a high tolerance for alcohol, allowing him to stand (or operate a vehicle) where others would have passed out. He could only achieve this by exposing himself to more and more alcohol over recent months. 2 -Blackmon didn't build up a tolerance to alcohol and was just lucky to be alive at .24 (and had no business driving a vehicle)Either way, it's a problem.It's funny how society views drinking and driving. I know there has been a lot of attention brought to it in recent years. But, it's still not taken seriously. Imagine if a person was to shoot a gun into a crowd outside a nightclub. Or worse yet, shot a single round into a crowded playground full of toddlers. People would want the book thrown at the shooter. Yet, every day people drink and drive. Even though they know they are putting themselves and others at risk. (I don't so much care about the harm they do to themselves, this is the natural order of weeding out the weak) But, where's the outrage? where's the lynch mob?If I drive around drunk 10 times and never get caught or hurt anyone, is it really any different from shooting 10 times into a crowd, if the bullet misses everyone?

 

[cstu]

Blackmon was scheduled to sign autographs at an event in Houston at 2 p.m. Saturday but canceled because of illness, according to the promoter’s website.

 

[cstu]

Ironic that part of the reason the Jaguars drafted him was because he was a 'high character' guy.

 

[moderated]

Unless he gets another DUI this won't really have any affect on his career.

He might get a 1-2 game slap on the wrist suspension, which doesn't really matter for FF since no one should be starting him right off the bat anyway.

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

 

[cstu]

What really blows my mind is that the "friends" he was drinking with let him get into his car after drinking that much. Unbelievable.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

 

[jurb26]

What really blows my mind is that the "friends" he was drinking with let him get into his car after drinking that much. Unbelievable.

Yeah, they couldn't stop him seeing that they passed out...

 

[moderated]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

 

[DoubleG]

So if he had done the smart thing and taken a taxi or hired a limo we'd likely not known of his possible issue. We'd have no amount of people on soap boxes, no suggestions for intervention and/or counseling, in fact, potentially even if stories or pictures had surfaced we'd more than likely initially have thought he was just a young man doing the college thing, a bit longer than normal...Would his draft position be markedly different that it is now? Should it?

I think part of the above proposed "alternative endings" is the fact that taking the course of action you outlined above would be admitting, to a certain degree, that he has a problem. Secondly, the course of action he took is not only stupid but also happens to be illegal (and consequently stupid precisely because it IS illegal).Third, it would show a certain degree of charachter, responsibility and maturity - which he is obviously lacking - which is kind of the point here.

 

[werdnoynek]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

in madison, wi (or anywhere in wisconsin for that matter) - we have beer chasers with our bloody mary's in the morning. this is before we start drinking... feel free to judge us too.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

"Self Aware Power-Drunks" is my new fantasy team name....and would also be awesome for a band.

nice. Especially with your avatar. Very intimidating. Other worthy names: 40 year old adolescents, felons, and trustees of modern chemistry.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

in madison, wi (or anywhere in wisconsin for that matter) - we have beer chasers with our bloody mary's in the morning. this is before we start drinking... feel free to judge us too.

ok. but I won't judge you. With the selection of women available in the state of Wisconsin, it'd drive me to binge drink too.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He pleaded not guilty?

 

[finito]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

in madison, wi (or anywhere in wisconsin for that matter) - we have beer chasers with our bloody mary's in the morning. this is before we start drinking... feel free to judge us too.

I'm not judging the drinking, I realize that's a phase of many college kids (including myself), but I didn't get behind the wheel when I'd had more than 2 drinks. I know several people who were killed by drunk drivers, so perhaps I'm a bit militant on the subject, but I'm all for mandatory prison sentences if you blow over .20. If he blew a .09 or whatever, I could at least understand it, but .24... and his second DUI in two years? I'd give him 6 months in jail to think over his decisions.

 

[DoubleG]

He pleaded not guilty?

Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. That doesn't work nearly as well as when it is spoken.

 

[werdnoynek]

ok. but I won't judge you. With the selection of women available in the state of Wisconsin, it'd drive me to binge drink too.

it's all making sense now...

 

[werdnoynek]

I'm not judging the drinking, I realize that's a phase of many college kids (including myself), but I didn't get behind the wheel when I'd had more than 2 drinks. I know several people who were killed by drunk drivers, so perhaps I'm a bit militant on the subject, but I'm all for mandatory prison sentences if you blow over .20. If he blew a .09 or whatever, I could at least understand it, but .24... and his second DUI in two years? I'd give him 6 months in jail to think over his decisions.

hey i agree with everything you've said. i disagree with the people claiming he's an alcoholic just because he's had 2 dui's and blew a .24 - that's ridiculous when we know nothing about the kid other than the dui's and the bac. i don't even like the kid but i'm just sick of people making this into more than it really is. i need to remove myself from this thread lol.

 

[DoubleG]

ok. but I won't judge you. With the selection of women available in the state of Wisconsin, it'd drive me to binge drink too.

it's all making sense now...

Oh stop with the fake insultee act. Raiderfan is in Tampa - you and everyone on this board knows there aint nearly as many hot women growin on trees in Wisconsin as in Florida (and by "hot women growin on trees" I don't mean ones that over-heated in their camo on a hunting stand).

 

[werdnoynek]

ok. but I won't judge you. With the selection of women available in the state of Wisconsin, it'd drive me to binge drink too.

it's all making sense now...

Oh stop with the fake insultee act. Raiderfan is in Tampa - you and everyone on this board knows there aint nearly as many hot women growin on trees in Wisconsin as in Florida (and by "hot women growin on trees" I don't mean ones that over-heated in their camo on a hunting stand).

generalizations such as these prove the point i've been trying to make... everyone who gets pulled over for DUI is an alcoholic and clothed women are less attractive than half naked women. thank you for your assistance.

 

[FDC]

I'm all for mandatory prison sentences if you blow over .20.

In some states Blackmon is looking at mandatory jail time on his 2nd with a .24

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

He pleaded not guilty?

Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. That doesn't work nearly as well as when it is spoken.

Haven't you guys heard?!?! He was framed!!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

He pleaded not guilty?

of course he did

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I'm all for mandatory prison sentences if you blow over .20.

In some states Blackmon is looking at mandatory jail time on his 2nd with a .24

OK has a mandatory 28 day jail term for aggravated DUI (link). Blackmon pleaded not guilty (to avoid jail most likely) and his hearing is set or July 24. Best case is that it's reduced to DUI and he gets probation.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

He pleaded not guilty?

of course he did

I have no understanding of how this stuff works.

 

[Kinger]

I didn't see it anywhere above...

Stillwater (OK) police spokesman Randy Dickerson revealed that Justin Blackmon blew a 0.24 blood-alcohol level -- three times the Oklahoma legal limit -- before he was booked for aggravated DUI on Sunday morning.

They also clarified it was at 3AM, not 10AM as an earlier report had.(edit)*** Nevermind, I had it up on the screen so long reading through that someone else did post it.

 

[Faust]

The best thing that the league could do right now is to tell Blackmon that before he can ever play a down in the NFL, before he can ever step on a practice field that he should be required to sit at a table across from Donté Stallworth and hear what impact can occur from driving while intoxicated. I would show him the photos from that accident and hope that he has the ability to learn from his mistakes.

Good option, but the sheer stupidity of driving while THAT drunk does not give a frick is a tough nut to crack.

He may be "too stupid to get it" and he may be a "tough nut to crack", but the NFL and his agent should still try to get the message to sink in.

 

[Instinctive]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

 

[werdnoynek]

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

from the CDC -

Binge Drinking

Binge drinking is a common pattern of excessive alcohol use in the United States. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism defines binge drinking as a pattern of drinking that brings a person’s blood alcohol concentration (BAC) to 0.08 grams percent or above. This typically happens when men consume 5 or more drinks, and when women consume 4 or more drinks, in about 2 hours.

Most people who binge drink are not alcohol dependent.

According to national surveys

•Approximately 92% of U.S. adults who drink excessively report binge drinking in the past 30 days.

•Although college students commonly binge drink, 70% of binge drinking episodes involve adults age 26 years and older.

•The prevalence of binge drinking among men is higher than the prevalence among women.

•Binge drinkers are 14 times more likely to report alcohol-impaired driving than non-binge drinkers.

•About 90% of the alcohol consumed by youth under the age of 21 in the United States is in the form of binge drinks.

•About 75% of the alcohol consumed by adults in the United States is in the form of binge drinks.

•The proportion of current drinkers that binge is highest in the 18- to 20-year-old group (51%).

Thought I should bring some facts in here since people have some pretty interesting beliefs on what this actually is and how many people actually partake... How many college kids stop drinking after 2 hours? You do the math... just because you can't/don't drink like this doesn't mean there aren't people who do. Hyperbole lol...ETA: bolded

 

[KCitons]

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

from the CDC -

Binge Drinking

Binge drinking is a common pattern of excessive alcohol use in the United States. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism defines binge drinking as a pattern of drinking that brings a person’s blood alcohol concentration (BAC) to 0.08 grams percent or above. This typically happens when men consume 5 or more drinks, and when women consume 4 or more drinks, in about 2 hours.

Most people who binge drink are not alcohol dependent.

According to national surveys

•Approximately 92% of U.S. adults who drink excessively report binge drinking in the past 30 days.

•Although college students commonly binge drink, 70% of binge drinking episodes involve adults age 26 years and older.

•The prevalence of binge drinking among men is higher than the prevalence among women.

•Binge drinkers are 14 times more likely to report alcohol-impaired driving than non-binge drinkers.

•About 90% of the alcohol consumed by youth under the age of 21 in the United States is in the form of binge drinks.

•About 75% of the alcohol consumed by adults in the United States is in the form of binge drinks.

•The proportion of current drinkers that binge is highest in the 18- to 20-year-old group (51%).

Thought I should bring some facts in here since people have some pretty interesting beliefs on what this actually is and how many people actually partake... How many college kids stop drinking after 2 hours? You do the math... just because you can't/don't drink like this doesn't mean there aren't people who do. Hyperbole lol...ETA: bolded

Just so I understand. You want it to be clear that we cannot call Blackmon an Alcoholic? I'm OK not calling him that. I have a feeling he will create plenty of other things to call himself over his short NFL career.

Just remember most people that binge drink may not be alcohol dependent. But everyone that binge drinks and operates a motor vehicle is breaking the law.

 

[imagroid]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

12 is the top end? Did you go to an artsy school or something?

 

[Donnybrook]

Adam Schefter tweet:

Sounds like the Jaguars can and will give first-round pick Justin Blackmon a smaller and deferred signing bonus, less guaranteed money.

 

[werdnoynek]

Just so I understand. You want it to be clear that we cannot call Blackmon an Alcoholic? I'm OK not calling him that. I have a feeling he will create plenty of other things to call himself over his short NFL career.

Just remember most people that binge drink may not be alcohol dependent. But everyone that binge drinks and operates a motor vehicle is breaking the law.

ok.

 

[bryhamm]

Back on-topic: Is Blackmon that stupid that he can't have one of his posse be the designated driver if he wants to go out and get plastered somewhere? Seriously, the stupidity of these professional athletes that so many of us worship is astounding!

Heard from someone here at work that said he read via Peter King that the NFL has some sort of a DD policy for any player. All he had to do was make a call and he had a driver.

 

[Faust]

Back on-topic: Is Blackmon that stupid that he can't have one of his posse be the designated driver if he wants to go out and get plastered somewhere? Seriously, the stupidity of these professional athletes that so many of us worship is astounding!

Heard from someone here at work that said he read via Peter King that the NFL has some sort of a DD policy for any player. All he had to do was make a call and he had a driver.

Peter King wrote that he thinks that almost every team in the NFL has these programs in place (the Browns were the first to implement one) and the Jaguars certainly did have a program for their players that provides a ride if they are too drunk to drive.Blackmon hasn't signed his first contract and the rookie symposium hasn't taken place yet, so he may not have been aware that such a program was available to him (and may not have cared anyway).

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

was listening to the most excellent pat kirwan and jim millllller on sirius nfl, and they read some tweet that claimed that blackmon's supposed first dui was actually a minor in possession.

also said that normally on a first offense like this the judge won't issue jail time, but the possibility is there.

 

[Faust]

Justin Blackmon won't be given plea bargain, DA says

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

Jacksonville Jaguars rookie wide receiver Justin Blackmon pleaded not guilty to a misdemeanor aggravated DUI charge Monday in Stillwater, Okla.

If Blackmon doesn't change that plea, it appears he is headed for trial. Vito Stellino of The Florida Times-Union spoke with the district attorney who's handling the case and said he won't plea bargain to a reckless driving charge.

Blackmon had a previous DUI arrest, but that wound up being a minor in possession of beer, not a DUI, the district attorney said. If Blackmon is convicted, he would face felony charges if he was arrested again for DUI. A guilty plea or a conviction also won't help Blackmon's chances of avoiding an NFL suspension.

Blackmon, the No. 5 overall pick by the Jaguars two months ago, is currently unsigned, and it's possible the Jaguars will offer him less guaranteed money following the news. Blackmon took a breathalyzer test and registered a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit for driving.

 

[Wadsworth]

Hah! I bet HBO wishes they picked the Jags now!

 

[Gandalf]

1) 0.24 BAC isn't a problem? Where does it become a problem in your eyes Skeletore? Most wouldn't be walking at 0.24, so for Blackmon is 0.40 a problem? At what point?2) 2 DUI's isn't a problem? At what point? 6 DUI's? Causing an accident? Running over a pedestrian? Where does the problem begin?

This here is exactly why I see it as alarming. I don't have any scientific evidence to site here, but based on my own personal experience what you are saying in point 1 is pretty accurate. In my younger years, when I was regularly hitting bars and drinking, it would take a lot more alcohol for me to start feeling the effects. Hence the phrases, "he can hold his liquor." The more you drink, the more conditioned it seems your body is to "holding your liquor" and the less you seem effected by it. I could easily drink 7 or 8 beers in a relatively short amount of time and not become sloppy. Drunk sure, but not sloppy. Now that I'm older and out of the bar hopping life if I were to drink 7 or 8 beers in a short amount of time I'd be falling all over myself and likely puking as well. As a matter of fact this happened not too long ago after a night out with some old friends and a couple bottles of wine (don't worry, my wife was forced to drive me home!).Again, I don't know if this is backed up by hard evidence or not but it seems to me that the more you drink the more you can handle it. So, the fact that he consumed that much alcohol and was still functional enough to do the things he did leads me to believe this wasn't his first go at it. I'm not saying he is cursed here or that he is an alcoholic. Perhaps he's just living the good life until he starts his NFL career. Either way, it seems some people are trying to act as though there are no possible risks here at all and that seems foolish to me. Even if Blackmon does have a drinking problem or is an alcoholic he is still young enough that he could get the proper help and turn it around. In the end, none of us really know what the story actually is. We just get to watch it unfold.

Yes, there is hard evidence and a scientific term called alcohol tolerance. Alcohol tolerance is defined as the body's ability to adapt and get use to alcohol being in the system. Alcohol tolerance occurs when the body sees a regular stream of alcohol. Those in the medical field know it has to do with upregulation of GABA receptors. Alcohol tolerance is a very real thing with a physiological explanation. The fact that Blackmon had a 0.24 BAC and was still functioning in fact does show he has a "high tolerance" to alcohol and he does in fact frequently drink.....which is required to obtain tolerance.

Very true post.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

It is extremely naive to think that over a heavy drinking weekend a college student would consume only 12 drinks. 15-18 per night is much more realistic. And that is Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. If there is a day drinking event, an entire case over the course of the day and night is completely possible.

 

[fatness]

1) 0.24 BAC isn't a problem? Where does it become a problem in your eyes Skeletore? Most wouldn't be walking at 0.24, so for Blackmon is 0.40 a problem? At what point?

When I have to read pompous interminable finger-wagging posts about it.

 

[werdnoynek]

1) 0.24 BAC isn't a problem? Where does it become a problem in your eyes Skeletore? Most wouldn't be walking at 0.24, so for Blackmon is 0.40 a problem? At what point?

When I have to read pompous interminable finger-wagging posts about it.

 

[cvnpoka]

Then based on these facts we can draw one of two conclusions.

1 -Blackmon has a high tolerance for alcohol, allowing him to stand (or operate a vehicle) where others would have passed out. He could only achieve this by exposing himself to more and more alcohol over recent months.

2 -Blackmon didn't build up a tolerance to alcohol and was just lucky to be alive at .24 (and had no business driving a vehicle)

Either way, it's a problem.

It's funny how society views drinking and driving. I know there has been a lot of attention brought to it in recent years. But, it's still not taken seriously. Imagine if a person was to shoot a gun into a crowd outside a nightclub. Or worse yet, shot a single round into a crowded playground full of toddlers. People would want the book thrown at the shooter.

Yet, every day people drink and drive. Even though they know they are putting themselves and others at risk. (I don't so much care about the harm they do to themselves, this is the natural order of weeding out the weak) But, where's the outrage? where's the lynch mob?

If I drive around drunk 10 times and never get caught or hurt anyone, is it really any different from shooting 10 times into a crowd, if the bullet misses everyone?

i think you should work on your handicapping skills.also, if you know ppl are out driving drunk and its of similar deadliness as stray bullets into a crowd, you are darwining just as bad by driving yourself at drunk hours.

as for, wheres the outrage? well, read the thread and watch the news. ppl blatantly overestimate and misrepresent facts about drunk driving.

 

[dickey moe]

Driving at .24 is a lot, but people are over-reacting saying most people would be passed out at that level. Most college kids get to that level on a weekly basis.

You from Alabama?

no, but i went to college and on the weekends most students are knocking back 15-18 drinks.

That's a gigantic load of bull####...it's probably 50% or less of the frat population and then maybe 10% of the independents who do that. Talk about a hyperbole there...Over a course of the whole weekend, on a heavy drinking weekend, I'm thinking 12 or so is about the top for "drinks" as measured by one beer, one shot or whatever.

It is extremely naive to think that over a heavy drinking weekend a college student would consume only 12 drinks. 15-18 per night is much more realistic. And that is Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. If there is a day drinking event, an entire case over the course of the day and night is completely possible.

I must be out of touch. Drinking 15-18 drinks per night for four days in a row is ####### idiotic.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

this would be an awesome jersey

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2012/6/4/3064111/the-new-justin-blackmon-jerseys-are-in

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

15-18 per night is much more realistic.

 

[cstu]

was listening to the most excellent pat kirwan and jim millllller on sirius nfl, and they read some tweet that claimed that blackmon's supposed first dui was actually a minor in possession.also said that normally on a first offense like this the judge won't issue jail time, but the possibility is there.

He was under 21 and it's considered a DUI to have any alcohol in your system, even if under the legal limit.