Justin Fargas (1 Viewer)

[Weiner Dog]

Right out of the free-agency gate, Fargas inks a 3-year, $12mm deal with Raiders. Fast forward a few weeks...

Tommy Kelly signs a 7-year, $50.5mm deal

Javon Walker signs a 6-year, $55mm deal

Gibril Wilson signs a 6-year, $39mm deal

DeAngelo Hall is close to signing a deal slightly less than Asante Samuel's 6-year, $57mm deal with the Eagles (...plus a 2nd-round pick was used)

Heck...even Kwame Harris signed a 3-year, $16mm deal

I know all the above-listed deals have their little quirks where they are essentially short-term deals packaged into larger deals. However, I can help but think Fargas is either PO'd with his agent and/or himself.

 

[Bri]

I don't think he's worth the 3-12 he signed.

He's one of the few players that this board praises more than the rest of the WWW

 

[crazy gadget]

I don't think he's worth the 3-12 he signed.He's one of the few players that this board praises more than the rest of the WWW

I totally agree. I think Fargas should just keep smiling and be happy that fate smiled upon him last year and allowed him to still have a shot at starting and $12 million in his pocket to boot. I am not a believer in Fargas. A lot of players come in mid-season, light it up, and then disappear the next season following a lot of hype. I could be wrong...time will tell.

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Right out of the free-agency gate, Fargas inks a 3-year, $12mm deal with Raiders. Fast forward a few weeks...

Tommy Kelly signs a 7-year, $50.5mm deal

Javon Walker signs a 6-year, $55mm deal

Gibril Wilson signs a 6-year, $39mm deal

DeAngelo Hall is close to signing a deal slightly less than Asante Samuel's 6-year, $57mm deal with the Eagles (...plus a 2nd-round pick was used)

Heck...even Kwame Harris signed a 3-year, $16mm deal

I know all the above-listed deals have their little quirks where they are essentially short-term deals packaged into larger deals. However, I can help but think Fargas is either PO'd with his agent and/or himself.

Actually, Fargas re-signed before free agency ever began, a week or so after the Super Bowl.

 

[King of the Jungle]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

 

[massraider]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Bad information here.Fargas averaged 3.4 YPC in the 1st quarter, 4.2 in the 2nd, and 5.4 in the 3rd.And the Raiders weren't really blown out all year, and sure didn't blow anyone out, so which garbage time are you talking about?As far as his deal is concerned, I hear you Weiner Dog, but I think Fargas knew he wasn't gonna get a shot as a starter anywhere else, and he also really like Oakland.

 

[Weiner Dog]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

...and what exactly did Tommy Kelly and Javon Walker accomplish last year, with the exception of knee surgeries??Nobody is saying Fargas is a top-tier RB. The guy has been a walking injury since he's been in the NFL, but does this really make him any different than a guy like Javon Walker who will be making 2-3x more $$$??

 

[The Hank]

3 years, 12 mil is expensive for a backup.

:darrenmcfadden:

 

[massraider]

3 years, 12 mil is expensive for a backup.:darrenmcfadden:

LongGholstonLongDorseyEllisMcFadden

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I didn't like Fargas at all before this year, but he really came on strong. I think he's shown he can be the lead guy. He's not stellar, but better than most have given him credit for.

 

[Demons]

Kelly still has me scratching my head. He should have gotten a one-year prove it contract. The Raiders have been phenominal at finding the Defensive Linemen diamonds in the rough, usually losing them to free agency just as they come into their own. Maybe they are trying to break that pattern. Still, way too much money.

Javon Walker has me scratching my head, but then again DE Burgess had a history of injuries before coming to the Raiders and I thought at the time that he was a bad pick-up. I would rather have them grab WR Hackett at a much lower price.

Gibril Wilson is a GREAT addition. He impacts both safety positions by allowing Huff to move to his proper FS position.

Hall helps strengthen special teams and gives them the exact type of CB that they need for their scheme.

Folks, the handwriting is on the wall regarding the coming elimination of the salary cap. The owners hate the current deal and everyone involved has forgotten how ugly strikes and lockouts are.

 

[gman8343]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack.

As did Lamont Jordan, as did Dominic Rhodes. I'm not so sure the line is as bad as you think. Every RB who started fared quite well, not just Fargas. Jordan was a beast till he was injured.

 

[The Hank]

3 years, 12 mil is expensive for a backup.:darrenmcfadden:

LongGholstonLongDorseyEllisMcFadden

Conventional wisdom would say, yes to your statement.But we ARE talking about Al Davis here.

 

[Holland Freeze]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

3/12 IS for competing for the starting position - the other players (although perhaps overpriced) are for undisputed starters. Fargas did well but has not proven anything unlike the others.

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

3/12 IS for competing for the starting position - the other players (although perhaps overpriced) are for undisputed starters. Fargas did well but has not proven anything unlike the others.

Wait a minute. He proved he can rush for 1000 yards on a bad team. With such a lack of a passing game, Cedric Benson could have blown up there. I actually kind of like Fargas, but theres no way hes worth 12 mil.

 

[massraider]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

3/12 IS for competing for the starting position - the other players (although perhaps overpriced) are for undisputed starters. Fargas did well but has not proven anything unlike the others.

Wait a minute. He proved he can rush for 1000 yards on a bad team. With such a lack of a passing game, Cedric Benson could have blown up there. I actually kind of like Fargas, but theres no way hes worth 12 mil.

Yeah, it's a shame Cedric was stuck with the Bears high-flying passing game.

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

3/12 IS for competing for the starting position - the other players (although perhaps overpriced) are for undisputed starters. Fargas did well but has not proven anything unlike the others.

Wait a minute. He proved he can rush for 1000 yards on a bad team. With such a lack of a passing game, Cedric Benson could have blown up there. I actually kind of like Fargas, but theres no way hes worth 12 mil.

Yeah, it's a shame Cedric was stuck with the Bears high-flying passing game.

Ha! Good point. I don't think Fargas is kicking himself either...

 

[TheOriginalDoubledown]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

3/12 IS for competing for the starting position - the other players (although perhaps overpriced) are for undisputed starters. Fargas did well but has not proven anything unlike the others.

Wait a minute. He proved he can rush for 1000 yards on a bad team. With such a lack of a passing game, Cedric Benson could have blown up there. I actually kind of like Fargas, but theres no way hes worth 12 mil.

Lets not forget that in proving he could rush for 1000 yards, he did this while playing in 14 games and starting in only 7 of those. On the pessimistic side, he still hasn't proven he can stay healthy for a whole season.

 

[loose circuits]

seems like Fargas is overpaid when you compare his deal to what Foster, J. Jones, C. Brown, and other guys that have similar resumes...

not a good year to be a FA for RB's...

 

[DarabZarrabi]

what are the Raiders doing at RB...are they going to cut Rhodes and Jordan and just go with Fargas/Bush? This team's management is just so bad

 

[Weiner Dog]

what are the Raiders doing at RB...are they going to cut Rhodes and Jordan and just go with Fargas/Bush? This team's management is just so bad

Rhodes just signed a 2-year deal to stay with the team. Jordan is most likely gone. In fact, I'm surprised he hasn't been cut yet. The longer Jordan is on the roster, the more I'd be worried about Bush's health.

 

[cstu]

what are the Raiders doing at RB...are they going to cut Rhodes and Jordan and just go with Fargas/Bush? This team's management is just so bad

Rhodes just signed a 2-year deal to stay with the team. Jordan is most likely gone. In fact, I'm surprised he hasn't been cut yet. The longer Jordan is on the roster, the more I'd be worried about Bush's health.

I don't think Jordan is even a consideration, he's as good as gone. He hasn't been cut yet because they can spread half of his remaining bonus onto next season if he's cut after June 1. There's no reason to cut him now except as a courtesy to Jordan so he can look for another job.

 

[Raider Nation]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Bad information here.Fargas averaged 3.4 YPC in the 1st quarter, 4.2 in the 2nd, and 5.4 in the 3rd.And the Raiders weren't really blown out all year, and sure didn't blow anyone out, so which garbage time are you talking about?

Let me save you some time. This guy's mission in life is to make fun of the Raiders, as if that's a novel concept.Best to put him on ignore and move along.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

He definately runs like a chicken with its head cut off. Is that worth 12 mil? He had a nice 4.5 ypc but most of which came in garbage time.

Disagree with everything you are saying. He ran very well behind a poor line and an offense with no passing attack. He was finally able to stay healthy and showed he belongs competing for a starting spot.

Lamont Jordan also ran very well behind that Raider line. That line wasn't as bad as many think in terms of running the ball.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Fargas went to SC...got to stay in Cali by playing in Oakland, wanted to stay there even though the Raiders are in shambles...and they want to pay him $12 million to do so...he felt like he hit the lottery.

 

[weisguy0831]

Fargas went to SC...got to stay in Cali by playing in Oakland, wanted to stay there even though the Raiders are in shambles...and they want to pay him $12 million to do so...he felt like he hit the lottery.

signing for $12 million is hitting the lottery.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Right out of the free-agency gate, Fargas inks a 3-year, $12mm deal with Raiders. Fast forward a few weeks...

Tommy Kelly signs a 7-year, $50.5mm deal

Javon Walker signs a 6-year, $55mm deal

Gibril Wilson signs a 6-year, $39mm deal

DeAngelo Hall is close to signing a deal slightly less than Asante Samuel's 6-year, $57mm deal with the Eagles (...plus a 2nd-round pick was used)

Heck...even Kwame Harris signed a 3-year, $16mm deal

I know all the above-listed deals have their little quirks where they are essentially short-term deals packaged into larger deals. However, I can help but think Fargas is either PO'd with his agent and/or himself.

No, he was the first to start the overpaid Raiders. He's not a real starting caliber RB and he's making more money there than he would make anywhere.

 

[BroadwayG]

but most of which came in garbage time.

It's been many years since any Raiders games consisted of anything but garbage time.

 

[Interseptopus]

How can you compare a RB to all those other FAs?

Is it not true that different positions usually command different salaries? I don't see a safety getting QB type money...

Regardless, the Raiders overpaid him to begin with. But, at least they're spending..