Galileo
Footballguy
http://collegespun.com/big-12/kansas-state-big-12/video-kansas-states-bands-formation-appears-to-jam-something-into-a-jayhawks-mouth
Ummm...Starship Enterprise? Really?
Ummm...Starship Enterprise? Really?
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Kansas State Marching band (1 Viewer)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Good lord, I have a relative who is a Jayhawk, this will not be well received. This might start a civil war.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
The show was presented as if the Starship Enterprise was destroying Big Jay, the Jayhawks mascot.
In execution, it looked like a giant penis inserted into Big Jay's open beak.
I thought it was kinda funny. Not tasteful or clever, but funny.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Actually it does look like the Enterprise but why is it trying to smash the beak of a giant Jayhawk.
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Why is the Jayhawk trying to fellate the starship enterprise? Crazy kids these days
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
So far I've seen responses everywhere from "We're so deep in their heads they go after us during meaningless non-conference games" to "lets join the Big Ten or ACC and leave them behind"
FUBAR
Footballguy
who doesn't like oral?You've got ksu dreaming about finally getting some from the best mascot in sports.
General Malaise
Footballguy
How is Kansas football this year?
FUBAR
Footballguy
They lost to the jackrabbits.
If, like me, you didn't know who the jackrabbits are, that's enough of a sign as to how good KU football is.
But (as we say most every year) wait until basketball!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
In their defense, that's a damn good moving Jayhawk, which ain't easy.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Yeah the Jayhawk was pretty good. But I'm not buying the Enterprise thing. Still hilarious.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
tOSU they ain't
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
New coach. Former coach didn't really want the job, only took it because his son was a student there. Coming of seasons of losing a ####load of games, and lousy recruiting. I'll be surprised if this team wins three games.
That said, I liked the offense the new coach is installing. Looks fun to play in and should score some points. Hopefully some JC AAs and disgruntled freshmen at power programs like what they see and transfer in. Gonna take a while before 3-4 star players in Texas want to play in Lawrence as freshmen instead of riding the bench in Fort Worth, Austin, Waco, College Station, Norman or Stillwater.
Otherwise... 32 days and 19 hours until basketball practice starts.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
KU really should have hired someone to wipe Mangino's poopy bottom.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Your mom wouldn't sign a multi-year deal.
Mangino was good at game preparation and player development, but he made a lot of enemies and was a minus-minus at stuff like raising money to upgrade facilities. Even without stuff like needing an assistant to back his car out of parking space because he couldn't turn and look out the rear window and the famous case of the maintenance staff fed up with literally dealing with his ####, he wasn't going to last another year or two.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Making this even weirder...
K-State required all students to agree to and sign a "Sportsmanship Pledge" in order to receive their student tickets. It's a new policy created mainly in reaction to an overzealous court-storming after K-State beat KU in basketball last season - a K-State student gave a blindside hit to a KU player as he stormed the court, and KU coach Bill Self narrowly avoided serious injury when he got pinned against the scorer's table while attempting to exchange postgame handshakes with the K-State coaches.
And then the band goes and puts a #### in a Jayhawk's mouth.
ETA: the K-State band director has posted charts from the drill and issued a statement.
"...There was absolutely no intent to display anything other than the Enterprise and the Jayhawk in battle. If I am guilty of anything it would be the inability to teach the drill in a manner that these young people could have succeeded. I do apologize for the misinterpretation and I assure you that I meant absolutely no disrespect or malice toward the University of Kansas."
Frank Tracz
Director of the K-State Marching Band
Apparently during this the band was playing music from Star Trek, and the Jayhawk was intended to stand in for an enemy spaceship called the Bird Of Prey.
K-State required all students to agree to and sign a "Sportsmanship Pledge" in order to receive their student tickets. It's a new policy created mainly in reaction to an overzealous court-storming after K-State beat KU in basketball last season - a K-State student gave a blindside hit to a KU player as he stormed the court, and KU coach Bill Self narrowly avoided serious injury when he got pinned against the scorer's table while attempting to exchange postgame handshakes with the K-State coaches.
And then the band goes and puts a #### in a Jayhawk's mouth.
ETA: the K-State band director has posted charts from the drill and issued a statement.
"...There was absolutely no intent to display anything other than the Enterprise and the Jayhawk in battle. If I am guilty of anything it would be the inability to teach the drill in a manner that these young people could have succeeded. I do apologize for the misinterpretation and I assure you that I meant absolutely no disrespect or malice toward the University of Kansas."
Frank Tracz
Director of the K-State Marching Band
Apparently during this the band was playing music from Star Trek, and the Jayhawk was intended to stand in for an enemy spaceship called the Bird Of Prey.
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
My Mom passed away.
Blind Tiger
Footballguy
Lol "...Self narrowly avoided serious injury..." Yeah, ok. Jayhawks are so sensitive.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Yea, they really should have had it fire torepedos and had parts of the other band peal away as they hit. Still pretty funny.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
As exhibited by the complete lack of outrage expressed by Jayhawks fans in this thread over the event that triggered it.
General Malaise
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Surprised Mangino hasn't popped up at a smaller school or MAC school or something.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
He's getting back into the game. He spent a year or two as a I-AA coordinator, and Iowa State hired him last year. He coached the tight ends, and will be their offensive coordinator this season. So it's the level where you would expect someone to take a chance on him. If Iowa State sees a reduction in penalties and turnovers this season, he's still got it.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Yeah all they've done is dug up the Kansas State student sportsmanship pledge required to be signed in order to get tickets.
FUBAR
Footballguy
The Jayhawks here aren't exactly in a rage over this.
On the whole, we're an easy going group.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Clearly that action exhibited a nuclear level of outrage. It was some sizzling HotSportsTakes material.
Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
Exactly. I laughed when I saw the photos and video. I was laughing about it with hardcore K-State fans minutes after it happened. I laughed when Mizzou fans would alter the second half of the M-I-Z cheer when KU was in the building. Saturday night was a harmless action in a rivalry that is harmless 99.99% of the time.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
That Jayhawk is lucky he didn't take a shot to the eye - FDAS told me that stings.
Blind Tiger
Footballguy
Apparently KU doesn't think it was harmless considering they have filed a complaint of unsportsmanlike conduct against KSU with the Big XII Conference. So, yeah, Jayhawks are sensitive.Bruce Dickinson said:
https://www.facebook.com/geralyn.tracz/posts/10156066921610088
FUBAR
Footballguy
Not sure how much faith I'd put in her post.
I would sure hope this part isn't true. "my husband has received emails stating that they are trying to get his name added to the list of sexual predators as well as threats if he shows his face in Lawrence"
or at least, the emails aren't coming from anyone with authority.
but there are idiots everywhere. I won't pretend Lawrence would be immune.
Nugget
Footballguy
Sounds like K State doesn't like consequences. Probably should save the Jayhawk bashing for when KU is actually in town.
Jackstraw
Footballguy
What's football? Must be some kind of intramural activity in between basketball seasons.
Blind Tiger
Footballguy
Well, KU isn't in town this year. So, are you saying the issue was using the Jayhawk during the show and not the "inappropriate" use? It's not uncommon to use a rival in the halftime show of a different game. Here's a link of tOSU taking shots at Michigan during halftime of a game against Penn State.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/10/ohio-state-marching-band-michigan-wolverines
The halftime show is meant to entertain the home crowd and, frankly, KSU fans couldn't care less about the South Dakota Coyotes or seeing their likeness fighting the USS Enterprise during the halftime show.
And here are the consequences...straight out of the ####ification of America handbook.
- A one game suspension for Frank Tracz, director of bands. The suspension will only be for the Nov. 28 game against KU.
- For violating the league’s sportsmanship policy, the university will pay a self-imposed $5,000 fine to the Big 12 Conference.
- All band halftime show content must have prior approval from the Office of Student Life and the Athletic Department.
Nugget
Footballguy
I do think the big part was the use of the Jayhawk - from the President of K-State in his letter to the band
Link to Article in Lawrence Journal World
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Bruce Dickinson
Footballguy
I think it's something they do in the infield of the track during the fall.
FUBAR
Footballguy
it's what they do as the opening act and the after party for marching band concerts.
