KANYE WEST is AWFUL (1 Viewer)

[36th Chamber]

I searched the FFA forum for a Kanye West thread and could not find one, my apologies for starting a new thread and if it needs to be merged with another relevant like thread mods feel free to do so.

I personally never liked anything he has put out, I mean some of his older tracks were ok but he's one of the most overrated Hip Hop artists out there.

Tried to put a link in here but couldn't - but check out his new video on YouTube "Bound2" (also a link via Drudge to it) it's just terrible, I mean really this is what Hip Hop is turning into, or shall I say mainstream? His flow is painful to listen to the track was pure garbage, just horrific......almost as if it is a joke, but sadly enough for Kanye it's not.

 

[cstu]

Water is wet. HTH.

 

[Soulfly3]

despise Kanye, I really do.

But Blkkk Skkkn Head and New Slaves off his new album are pretty fantastic tracks w phenomenal beats

I hate admitting that

 

[koby925]

I like how a lot of his earlier stuff endlessly ripped on black guys who went for white girls and then he married a white girl.

 

[Abraham]

I like how a lot of his earlier stuff endlessly ripped on black guys who went for white girls and then he married a white girl.

My friend got married a couple weeks ago in Dallas and his uppity mother went out of her way to make sure everyone knew his bride was "Persian, like Kim kardashia!" And not Mexican.

 

[(HULK)]

#nodisrespecttoBenAffleckALLDISRESPECTTOJIMMYKIMMEL

 

[Buckfast 1]

I watched that video yesterday, and my thoughts were the same. It was so awful that I was second-guessing whether it was actually a parody video made by SNL. The video is worth watching just because it's such a trainwreck. Kanye's rapping and lyrics are absolutely awful on this song. Kim Kardashian may be doing worse damage to Kanye's artistic ability than she did to Reggie Bush's average YPC. Here is an example of his lyrics in this song:

I wanna #### you hard on the sink

After that, give you something to drink

Step back, can't get spunk on the mink

I mean damn, what would Jeromey Romey Romey Rome think?

 

[Arizona Ron]

He's a dope producer though

 

[koby925]

I like how a lot of his earlier stuff endlessly ripped on black guys who went for white girls and then he married a white girl.

My friend got married a couple weeks ago in Dallas and his uppity mother went out of her way to make sure everyone knew his bride was "Persian, like Kim kardashia!" And not Mexican.

Not buying it. Bob Sr. was Armenian but not off the boat. Mom is white.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

 

[the moops]

I always go to Drudge to find links to hip hop artists. Its really the only place to go

 

[Steve Tasker]

Yeezus is a pretty terrible album. He's still a great producer though...

 

[36th Chamber]

I hit Drudge's site to see what kind of garbage was there today and it didn't disappoint. Saw the link and figured I'd check out #### McGee if anything, had no idea I would stumble upon one of the worst videos ever.

 

[Soulfly3]

Yeezus is a pretty terrible album. He's still a great producer though...

Dont disagree, though it has the only 2 kanye tracks I can listen to.

which, i guess doesnt say much.

The video/track was obviously just to create buzz. He knows it's god awful.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Saw it earlier today, I couldn't even finish it. I can't believe radio will play that. It's just not good on any level. I can listen to Gaga, Maclemore, other pop stuff in small doses but that new song with his chunky wife on the motorcycle is just awful.

I'd rather listen to the Macarena 24 hours in a row with no break than listen to that Kanye song again just once. I have liked some of his other stuff but this is just puke.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc

 

[McGarnicle]

Two really humongous asses in that family.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

I said this in the Yeezus thread: Give My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy a couple open-minded listens. It's an amazing album. I'm not the only person who thinks that. It was the runaway winner of Pazz and Jop, the Village Voice 2010 year-end poll of critics. It was #1 in the Pitchfork list of best albums of 2010. The reviews on Metacritic are over the top. If you listen to that and don't come away thinking the guy does incredible work at least some of the time, fair enough, it's just not for you.

 

[Scoresman]

the problem is you're looking for depth and meaning in a rap song.

 

[Soulfly3]

the problem is you're looking for depth and meaning in a rap song.

oh no you di'int

 

[Arizona Ron]

Watch the Throne was a pretty good album.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

I said this in the Yeezus thread: Give My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy a couple open-minded listens. It's an amazing album. I'm not the only person who thinks that. It was the runaway winner of Pazz and Jop, the Village Voice 2010 year-end poll of critics. It was #1 in the Pitchfork list of best albums of 2010. The reviews on Metacritic are over the top. If you listen to that and don't come away thinking the guy does incredible work at least some of the time, fair enough, it's just not for you.

I'll give it a listen. I'm definitely not close minded on the issue. Are there any particular songs on that album that stand out more than others? Looking at the songs, I am a huge fan of Power. My favorite by him.

 

[TheIronSheik]

the problem is you're looking for depth and meaning in a rap song.

Me? I'm not looking for anything. I'm saying his lyrics are terrible. Big difference.

 

[McGarnicle]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

Yeah, I'm about as qualified to judge country as rap. All sounds the same to me. Only stuff I really like at all is early 90's Snoop and Dr. Dre.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

I said this in the Yeezus thread: Give My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy a couple open-minded listens. It's an amazing album. I'm not the only person who thinks that. It was the runaway winner of Pazz and Jop, the Village Voice 2010 year-end poll of critics. It was #1 in the Pitchfork list of best albums of 2010. The reviews on Metacritic are over the top. If you listen to that and don't come away thinking the guy does incredible work at least some of the time, fair enough, it's just not for you.

I'll give it a listen. I'm definitely not close minded on the issue. Are there any particular songs on that album that stand out more than others? Looking at the songs, I am a huge fan of Power. My favorite by him.

I like it start to finish. Of course I like almost all of his stuff so I may not be the best person to ask, although I'm not a huge fan of Yeezus. Maybe pick a review from a source that appeals to you and see what they liked about it?

 

[Steve Tasker]

I am really near the bottom of "People Who Should Critique Rap", but this is my opinion: He has about 5 songs that I think have a good beat/melody/whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a terrible rapper. His lyrics are terrible for the most part. On the songs I like by him, I usually tend to try and not think about what he's saying and just listen to the song as a whole.

I said this in the Yeezus thread: Give My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy a couple open-minded listens. It's an amazing album. I'm not the only person who thinks that. It was the runaway winner of Pazz and Jop, the Village Voice 2010 year-end poll of critics. It was #1 in the Pitchfork list of best albums of 2010. The reviews on Metacritic are over the top. If you listen to that and don't come away thinking the guy does incredible work at least some of the time, fair enough, it's just not for you.

It only gets better with time, too, IMO. I love it more today than I did then, and I loved it then. I'm a big fan of College Dropout, but MBDTF is way better....and that's saying something.

To me, MBDTF is like listening to a hip-hop symphony. Yeezus sounds, for the most part, like a hip hop version of Nine Inch Nails. Doesn't work at all for me.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

That's maybe my favorite verse on the album. There, I said it.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

That's maybe my favorite verse on the album. There, I said it.

Oh, it's great. There's a reason it made her a star. I'm just not all that enthusiastic about what she did with it.

 

[Major]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

 

[T Bell]

He's a dope producer though

Heisenberg?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

That's maybe my favorite verse on the album. There, I said it.

I don't even think it was one of the three best guest verses on that album.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

According to someone on 4chan, this is a breakdown of the video:

"Alright firstly, the confederate flag. Many of you may or may not know that Kanye has put the confederate flag on a number of his new merchandise associated with the Yeezus tour. The reason for this is that he wants to replace a racist symbol with himself. He wants people to start associating it with him, instead of racism, so quite frankly it can't be used by racists, as it represents a 'Black Skin Head.' He has admitted to this. (I'll dig up the interview if you don't believe me.)

Now with this in mind, we can continue on to the Bound 2 video. This video presents some of the most stereotypical, if not corny american stereotypes. The desert. The galloping stallions. The beautiful woman. The soft porn. The lone ranger riding his motorcycle into the sunset. And it is all presented in such a simple and uninspiring way that it is almost a mockery of these things. The only thing not stereo typically american here, is the fact that the lone ranger is black.

So why is Kanye doing this? Well it is pretty simple, he is taking White American culture, and he is replacing it with a Black skin head. This is essentially an aggressive cultural takeover that the average person probably doesn't even realise is happening. Why else would he debut the video on the Ellen show? It is a white american talk show, with a white american demographic. This man is literally destroying white american stereotypes by making them revolve around him. The funniest part is, hardly anyone realises it. Oh and who is white america's favourite white person? Jesus. Im sure you all get where im going with this."

 

[flapgreen]

Terrible

 

[Steve Tasker]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

That's maybe my favorite verse on the album. There, I said it.

I don't even think it was one of the three best guest verses on that album.

It has been revealed to me in the past several days that I have different Kanye tastes than some other folks.

 

[McGarnicle]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

 

[Scoresman]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

imma let you finish McGarnicle but I gotta say that Kanye West is the greatest dbag of all time.

 

[Major]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

funny how many of you forget all the antics of your beloved rock stars i.e. Axl, Ozzy, etc.....it's ok when a white dude acts a fool b/c he's a rock star but when Kanye does it, I have a problem #smdh

 

[TheIronSheik]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

funny how many of you forget all the antics of your beloved rock stars i.e. Axl, Ozzy, etc.....it's ok when a white dude acts a fool b/c he's a rock star but when Kanye does it, I have a problem #smdh

FWIW, I hate white people too.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Sheik>"Power", "All of the Lights", and "Runaway"

Though the entire album is fantastic.

When you listen to "Monster," try to forget that it's responsible for making Nicki Minaj a star.

That's maybe my favorite verse on the album. There, I said it.

I don't even think it was one of the three best guest verses on that album.

It has been revealed to me in the past several days that I have different Kanye tastes than some other folks.

That Nicki Minaj verse just seemed gimmicky to me. Like doing a bunch of crazy voices and yelling.

Compared to this...there's just no comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ejqE3ktFU

 

[Clifford]

despise Kanye, I really do.

But Blkkk Skkkn Head and New Slaves off his new album are pretty fantastic tracks w phenomenal beats

I hate admitting that

He has good producers and probably is a good producer himself, as he produced a lot of other artist's album, but he can only rhyme one sound at a time and it is painful. He is not a rapper.

 

[McGarnicle]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

funny how many of you forget all the antics of your beloved rock stars i.e. Axl, Ozzy, etc.....it's ok when a white dude acts a fool b/c he's a rock star but when Kanye does it, I have a problem #smdh

You're out of your mind to say this has anything to do with race. Axl sure had his moments but mostly he's emotionally unstable and may suffer from mental illness. Ozzy is a lovable buffoon. Both are a far cry from the egomaniacal #######ry displayed by Kanye over the years.BTW I hate Bon Jovi, Bieber and Brett Michaels more than him. Kanye I try not to even think about, which is easy since I'm not a rap fan anyway.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I just read that Kanye broke up with Obama. Sad day for.... hmmm.... I'm not sure who the real winner or loser is here.

 

[bonesman]

It definitely wasn't good, but not horrible. The first verse had some good lyricism. I think he dropped a few 3 syllables. The worst part to me was the horrible green screen stuff and his plaid vest on over the plaid button up... WTF?!

 

[Major]

You're out of your mind to say this has anything to do with race. Axl sure had his moments but mostly he's emotionally unstable and may suffer from mental illness. Ozzy is a lovable buffoon. Both are a far cry from the egomaniacal #######ry displayed by Kanye over the years.BTW I hate Bon Jovi, Bieber and Brett Michaels more than him. Kanye I try not to even think about, which is easy since I'm not a rap fan anyway.

i guess you don't understand the genius of Yeezus. This is all done for pub/$/expansion. If he sat idle and was a yes man like many of you racists want him to be, he'd never be this famous. Just look at his first few albums when he was quiet/reserved but pushing out classic releases. Not a peep from the FFA.

Kanye has been doing his thing since the late 90s making folks like Common a household name. He's paid his dues and as long as he keeps making quality/pushing boundaries, he can say whatever he wants in his spare time.

 

[TheIronSheik]

You're out of your mind to say this has anything to do with race. Axl sure had his moments but mostly he's emotionally unstable and may suffer from mental illness. Ozzy is a lovable buffoon. Both are a far cry from the egomaniacal #######ry displayed by Kanye over the years.BTW I hate Bon Jovi, Bieber and Brett Michaels more than him. Kanye I try not to even think about, which is easy since I'm not a rap fan anyway.

i guess you don't understand the genius of Yeezus. This is all done for pub/$/expansion. If he sat idle and was a yes man like many of you racists want him to be, he'd never be this famous. Just look at his first few albums when he was quiet/reserved but pushing out classic releases. Not a peep from the FFA.

Kanye has been doing his thing since the late 90s making folks like Common a household name. He's paid his dues and as long as he keeps making quality/pushing boundaries, he can say whatever he wants in his spare time.

Is this Kim's FFA username? I feel like you're defending him a little too much.

 

[Warrior]

You're out of your mind to say this has anything to do with race. Axl sure had his moments but mostly he's emotionally unstable and may suffer from mental illness. Ozzy is a lovable buffoon. Both are a far cry from the egomaniacal #######ry displayed by Kanye over the years.BTW I hate Bon Jovi, Bieber and Brett Michaels more than him. Kanye I try not to even think about, which is easy since I'm not a rap fan anyway.

i guess you don't understand the genius of Yeezus. This is all done for pub/$/expansion. If he sat idle and was a yes man like many of you racists want him to be, he'd never be this famous. Just look at his first few albums when he was quiet/reserved but pushing out classic releases. Not a peep from the FFA.

Kanye has been doing his thing since the late 90s making folks like Common a household name. He's paid his dues and as long as he keeps making quality/pushing boundaries, he can say whatever he wants in his spare time.

 

[cstu]

He's a dope producer though

And the crappy lyrics on Yeezus are the exception for him, not the rule.

not a fan of the album as a whole but New Slaves is one of his Top 5 tracks of all-time. One of the best producers in music, average MC and an unmitigated ###. Sounds about par for the course for a rock star.

Hardly the case for all famous musicians though. In fact it's difficult to think of many that approach his level of dbaggery. Maybe Chris Brown.

funny how many of you forget all the antics of your beloved rock stars i.e. Axl, Ozzy, etc.....it's ok when a white dude acts a fool b/c he's a rock star but when Kanye does it, I have a problem #smdh

You're out of your mind to say this has anything to do with race. Axl sure had his moments but mostly he's emotionally unstable and may suffer from mental illness. Ozzy is a lovable buffoon. Both are a far cry from the egomaniacal #######ry displayed by Kanye over the years.BTW I hate Bon Jovi, Bieber and Brett Michaels more than him. Kanye I try not to even think about, which is easy since I'm not a rap fan anyway.

I can understand hating Poison, their image, and the stupid #### he does on his shows, but I doubt there's a nicer rock star than Bret. He's done a tremendous amount to help kids with childhood diabetes.