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I'm not familiar with the geography of the area, but is anybody familiar with the Harahan area?  Or specifically, whether or not it is underwater?  From my understanding, it is pretty much a suburb of NO, just to the west on the river.

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=&cs...ew=1&name=&qty=

Info is appreciated.
Actually, I have heard a few reports that harahan faired very well. Now obviously, that's not an official confirmation and I don't know specifically where you are talking about.....but it's a glimmer of hope.
What about your neck of the woods TF?
Haven't heard exactly, but I'm sure it's underwater. Here's a quote from my councilman - "We are letting people come back 6AM Monday morning. But there is nothing to come back to"
Well that just ####ing sucks.
 
CNN is saying that more people are being brought to the superdome.....but that the water IS indeed rising around the superdome....
Wingnut, I have heard this too. From what I have heard, they are using that as a collecting place for all remaining people so they can evacuate them from a central location to increase efficiency of the evacuation.
 
Since no one seems to have info on the street name and where it's located in relation to the damage in Biloxi, is there a site I can go to where I can put in the street name and see where it's located in relation to the parts that were hit so hard?

 
I'm not familiar with the geography of the area, but is anybody familiar with the Harahan area?  Or specifically, whether or not it is underwater?  From my understanding, it is pretty much a suburb of NO, just to the west on the river.

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?addr=&cs...ew=1&name=&qty=

Info is appreciated.
Actually, I have heard a few reports that harahan faired very well. Now obviously, that's not an official confirmation and I don't know specifically where you are talking about.....but it's a glimmer of hope.
What about your neck of the woods TF?
Haven't heard exactly, but I'm sure it's underwater. Here's a quote from my councilman - "We are letting people come back 6AM Monday morning. But there is nothing to come back to"
Well that just ####ing sucks.
Yep. GB innernet
 
"Little islands of red ants floated in the gasoline-fouled waters through downtown."that was from a story on MSNBC.com..talk about a mess :(

 
Since no one seems to have info on the street name and where it's located in relation to the damage in Biloxi, is there a site I can go to where I can put in the street name and see where it's located in relation to the parts that were hit so hard?
Biloxi: Massive damage in east end of city. . . almost total devastation primarily south of the railroad tracks near Lee Street, Point Cadet and Casino Row. . . Beau Rivage still stands. . . Hard Rock Casino, scheduled to open in early September, suffered 50 percent damages. The signature guitar, said to be the world's largest, still stands. . . At least five casinos out of commission. . . St. Thomas the Apostlic Catholic Church, which sits on U.S. 90, is gone.SunHerald

According to a yahoo map, Pass Rd. is just a few blocks west of Lee Street and Point Cadet.

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout CityAt a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press

 
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Conditions worsen inside Superdome hurricane center

8/30/2005, 10:14 a.m. CT

By MARY FOSTER

The Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Desperate for fresh air, dozens of refugees from Hurricane Katrina slept on the walkway surrounding the Louisiana Superdome as conditions inside worsened and even more people were brought to the huge arena Tuesday.

National Guardsmen let some of the 10,000 people sheltering inside the arena take their bedding out onto the concourse, where it was cooler and the breeze was welcome.

"Oh God, fresh air, it's so wonderful. It's the first time I've wanted to breathe all day," said Robin Smith, 33. "When you think what we could've gone through, it's not too bad in there. But it's certainly not as wonderful as this."

The bathrooms were filthy and barrels overflowed with trash. With the air conditioning off since power went out Monday morning, the bricks were slick with condensation.

Despite the conditions, the Superdome was a welcome refuge for people rescued from the rising water in the city Tuesday. National Guard troops brought refugees in their big 2 1/2-ton trucks, and Louisiana's wildlife enforcement department brought more people by pickup.

Mary Stewart, 80, slid off the back of a National Guard truck with nothing but the clothes on her back, her purse and the shoe on her left foot.

"I was so scared I don't feel I have any entrails any more," said Stewart, who spent a harrowing night in the attic of a beauty salon in the city's flooded Ninth Ward.

Beauty salon employee Kioka Williams, 23, said they had to hack through the ceiling to reach the attic as the water rose.

"Oh my God, it was hell," she said. "We were screaming, hollering, flashing lights. It was complete chaos."

The eight people in the salon were rescued early Tuesday by a police boat.

"I almost died in the night water," Willie Anderson, 49, said as he arrived at the Superdome. He had spent the night in his attic in the inundated Ninth Ward.

A groan rose from a group listing to a newscast when the devastation was detailed and officials in suburban Jefferson Parish said residents wouldn't be allowed to return until Monday. One woman cried.

"We're doing everything we can to keep these people comfortable," Gen. Ralph Lupin, commander of the National Guard troops at the Superdome, said Tuesday morning. "We're doing our best. It's not getting any better but we're trying not to let it get any worse."

"I know people want to leave, but they can't leave," he said. "There's 3 feet of water around the Superdome."

The situation was especially difficult for those in wheelchairs, who were lined up in rows five deep along a wall. One patient's IV bag was attached to a stadium seating sign.

Officials were considering moving the patients to areas with better accommodations.

"This is just too hot, too primitive, too uncomfortable for the patients and too hard to work in for the medical people," said Dr. Kevin Stephens Sr., head of the medical shelter in the Superdome.

Two people had died, according to Doug Thornton, a regional vice president for the company that manages the 77,000-seat Superdome, of the NFL's New Orleans Saints. He provided no details.

Katrina ripped two holes in the curved roof, but Superdome and government emergency officials stressed that they did not expect the huge roof to fail.

"I was OK until that roof fell off," said 82-year-old Anice Sexton. "I was terrified then. Otherwise it hasn't been too bad. People are so nice and the people staying here have really been cooperative. But the washrooms are terrible."

 
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12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At some point, doesn't some looting become acceptable, if necessary?
 
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12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
there is a fine line. If peopler were taking food and water is it looting? They may well need those to survive in the next few days. A part of me would also hate to see a store like that getting flooded and all the usable supplies inside being wasted. At the same time, this should not be an excuse for anarchy or for people to profit.Man, this whole thing is almost beyond belief

 
WDSU/ AP updatesconstant updates from AP wire. since nola.com is evacuating from the levee break, this is the only constant updating info i can find.

Anybody have anything better? All info about uptown appreciated.

 
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12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At this point, everything in those stores may be as good as useless if the flooding continues....if these supplies help keep these people alive then theyre doing what they have to do....Being in the same situation, I might do the same...If youve lost everything, youll do what you have to do to survive...The coverage and footage of this disaster is horrific and surreal as the 9/11 attacks.

Words just cant describe it.

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
i would do anything for supplies short of killing people. a new tv...you deseve a gunshot to the knee at the least. i just hope the thugdom doesn't expand into our homes. that may be worthy of a public hanging IMHO.
:thumbup: Right on. If people's children are hungry and without necessary clothing then parents have to do what they have to do to survive. Good point about televisions, jewelry or other commerical goods. Those people are the ones that need to be dealt with. And a tourist comparing it to downtown Baghdad? WTF??!!

I'm sure that tourist just came back from a two week vaction over there.

Prayers and well wishes to all those affected by this disaster.

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At some point, doesn't some looting become acceptable, if necessary?
Not for jewelry
 
I have to say, looting seems like a very, very minor concern right now.Food is going to spoil in days, even less without power. No store, certainly not a drug store, is ever going to sell any merchandise that remains from a massive flood.And from what it sounds like, durable goods are going to be extremely hard to move through the flooded streets, plus the looters have nowhere to take them to anyway.If some lady needs some pampers for her baby because her home is underwater, who really cares if she takes some?

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At some point, doesn't some looting become acceptable, if necessary?
Not for jewelry
Of course. That kind of looting is despicable.
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At this point, everything in those stores may be as good as useless if the flooding continues....if these supplies help keep these people alive then theyre doing what they have to do....Being in the same situation, I might do the same...If youve lost everything, youll do what you have to do to survive...The coverage and footage of this disaster is horrific and surreal as the 9/11 attacks.

Words just cant describe it.
it is not 9/11 and that debate doesn't need to happen in this thread again.It is surreal, but it is also very real for many of here. The coverage is horrific, and by that i mean...suxxorz. i am only watching the wdsu.com site at this point. I still haven't seen one picture of the twin span of I-10.

 
Since no one seems to have info on the street name and where it's located in relation to the damage in Biloxi, is there a site I can go to where I can put in the street name and see where it's located in relation to the parts that were hit so hard?
Biloxi: Massive damage in east end of city. . . almost total devastation primarily south of the railroad tracks near Lee Street, Point Cadet and Casino Row. . . Beau Rivage still stands. . . Hard Rock Casino, scheduled to open in early September, suffered 50 percent damages. The signature guitar, said to be the world's largest, still stands. . . At least five casinos out of commission. . . St. Thomas the Apostlic Catholic Church, which sits on U.S. 90, is gone.SunHerald

According to a yahoo map, Pass Rd. is just a few blocks west of Lee Street and Point Cadet.
Oh Lord. Thank you for the info. Our client is 63 years old.I'll tell my boss and I guess we'll just have to wait until she calls. I don't know how else to see if she's ok.

I have relatives in Louisiana but I'm not sure exactly where it is. I haven't heard anything bad so far so maybe they're ok.

I'm so sorry TF, to hear your news. :(

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At some point, doesn't some looting become acceptable, if necessary?
:yes: As long as it is for survival only. In the next few days people will show up selling ice and water for an unbelievable mark-up. Hopefully NO has some type of ordinance in place that will deal with these people harshly!

 
I have to say, looting seems like a very, very minor concern right now.

Food is going to spoil in days, even less without power. No store, certainly not a drug store, is ever going to sell any merchandise that remains from a massive flood.

And from what it sounds like, durable goods are going to be extremely hard to move through the flooded streets, plus the looters have nowhere to take them to anyway.

If some lady needs some pampers for her baby because her home is underwater, who really cares if she takes some?
it is utter dispair for some down there.Canal st is flooding at an foot an hour right now. It won't stop until it reaches the same level as the lake.

 
WDSU/ AP updatesconstant updates from AP wire. since nola.com is evacuating from the levee break, this is the only constant updating info i can find.

Anybody have anything better? All info about uptown appreciated.
wwltv.com is still live streaming. they are struggling to get info, but they certainly are providing more "local" type info than CNN, Foxnews, etc.
 
I have to say, looting seems like a very, very minor concern right now.

Food is going to spoil in days, even less without power. No store, certainly not a drug store, is ever going to sell any merchandise that remains from a massive flood.

And from what it sounds like, durable goods are going to be extremely hard to move through the flooded streets, plus the looters have nowhere to take them to anyway.

If some lady needs some pampers for her baby because her home is underwater, who really cares if she takes some?
it is utter dispair for some down there.Canal st is flooding at an foot an hour right now. It won't stop until it reaches the same level as the lake.
tipsey - what site are you watching?
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
At this point, everything in those stores may be as good as useless if the flooding continues....if these supplies help keep these people alive then theyre doing what they have to do....Being in the same situation, I might do the same...If youve lost everything, youll do what you have to do to survive...The coverage and footage of this disaster is horrific and surreal as the 9/11 attacks.

Words just cant describe it.
it is not 9/11 and that debate doesn't need to happen in this thread again.It is surreal, but it is also very real for many of here. The coverage is horrific, and by that i mean...suxxorz. i am only watching the wdsu.com site at this point. I still haven't seen one picture of the twin span of I-10.
I didnt mean the situations are similar, only that watching the disaster unfold on TV is just as numbing as watching TV on 9/11 was.I have family that lives in Jefferson Parrish....we tried getting ahold of them the night before landfall but there was no answer....still havent heard from them yet but were pretty sure they got out....theyve evacuated from past hurricanes when the threat wasnt nearly as bad as Katrina....Hopefully my mom up in Michigan will get word from them sometime this week...:fingerscrossed:

 
WDSU/  AP updatesconstant updates from AP wire.    since nola.com is evacuating from the levee break, this is the only constant updating info i can find. 

Anybody have anything better?  All info about uptown appreciated.
wwltv.com is still live streaming. they are struggling to get info, but they certainly are providing more "local" type info than CNN, Foxnews, etc.
ive had the wdsu coverage on...sure they are similar.just read a note on the nola.com mb about flooding blocks from my street now. this levee break is part of the WORST CASE SCENARIO. I am going to be sick.

I am about to come out of my skin. This is so tough...what a freaking week to quit smoking. :rant:

guess ill have another beer now. :)

 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
Let's keep in mind that people are stealing what they need to survive. Hardly TVs.
Jewelry?
 
12:15 p.m.: Looting Continues Throughout City

At a Walgreen's drug store in the French Quarter this morning, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. When police finally showed up, a young boy stood at the door and shouted a warning, and the crowd scattered.

A tourist from Philadelphia compared the scene to "downtown Baghdad."

Nearby, looters ripped open the steel gates from the front of stores on Canal Street. They filled industrial-sized garbage cans with clothing and jewelry and floated them down the street on bits of plywood and insulation. -- Associated Press
Let's keep in mind that people are stealing what they need to survive. Hardly TVs.
jewelry is just as bad.
 
I didnt mean the situations are similar, only that watching the disaster unfold on TV is just as numbing as watching TV on 9/11 was.

I have family that lives in Jefferson Parrish....we tried getting ahold of them the night before landfall but there was no answer....still havent heard from them yet but were pretty sure they got out....theyve evacuated from past hurricanes when the threat wasnt nearly as bad as Katrina....Hopefully my mom up in Michigan will get word from them sometime this week...:fingerscrossed:
thats cool...i agree...sorry...a little high strung at the moment.
 
Even if you steal what you need to survive, the law will still come down against you. I remember this buddy of mine who stole a loaf of bread and some candlesticks during the French Revolution. He got busted and was pursued for the rest of his life by a meddling detective named Javert. despite his subsequent rise to prominence, the crimes of his past came back to haunt him.

 
yikes... someone posted this on NOLA.com

CNN is reporting people jumping from the upper deck of the Superdome. Mass chaos inside with water now flooding the entire city. Gulf of Mexico can not be stopped. CNN saying there may be sixty feet of water in NOLA by six pm.
(sixty feet, is that accurate??, i only thought i was tops 8 ft below sealevel)
 
yikes... someone posted this on NOLA.com

CNN is reporting people jumping from the upper deck of the Superdome. Mass chaos inside with water now flooding the entire city. Gulf of Mexico can not be stopped. CNN saying there may be sixty feet of water in NOLA by six pm.
(sixty feet, is that accurate??, i only thought i was tops 8 ft below sealevel)
Typo? Maybe they meant 6 feet.
 
WDSU/ AP updatesconstant updates from AP wire. since nola.com is evacuating from the levee break, this is the only constant updating info i can find.

Anybody have anything better? All info about uptown appreciated.
wwltv.com is still live streaming. they are struggling to get info, but they certainly are providing more "local" type info than CNN, Foxnews, etc.
ive had the wdsu coverage on...sure they are similar.just read a note on the nola.com mb about flooding blocks from my street now. this levee break is part of the WORST CASE SCENARIO. I am going to be sick.

I am about to come out of my skin. This is so tough...what a freaking week to quit smoking. :rant:

guess ill have another beer now. :)
Hang in there, buddy. I know this situation is anything but funny, but when I read "What a freaking week to quit smoking" it made me think of that line in Airplane:"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" ;)

I dont think anyone here would lose any respect for you if you lit up a smoke at this point...

 
Even if you steal what you need to survive, the law will still come down against you. I remember this buddy of mine who stole a loaf of bread and some candlesticks during the French Revolution. He got busted and was pursued for the rest of his life by a meddling detective named Javert. despite his subsequent rise to prominence, the crimes of his past came back to haunt him.
Who is this man? What sort of devil is heTo have me caught in a trap and choose to let me go free?

It was his hour at last to put a seal on my fate

Wipe out the past and watch me clean off the slate

All it would take was a flick of his knife

Vengeance was his and he gave me back my liiiiife.....

 
Hang in there, buddy. I know this situation is anything but funny, but when I read "What a freaking week to quit smoking" it made me think of that line in Airplane:

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue" ;)
i said it in that voice. couldn't you hear it? :)
I dont think anyone here would lose any respect for you if you lit up a smoke at this point...
I WILL NOT ####### SMOKE!! :football:

 
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Even if you steal what you need to survive, the law will still come down against you.  I remember this buddy of mine who stole a loaf of bread and some candlesticks during the French Revolution.  He got busted and was pursued for the rest of his life by a meddling detective named Javert.  despite his subsequent rise to prominence, the crimes of his past came back to haunt him.
Who is this man? What sort of devil is heTo have me caught in a trap and choose to let me go free?

It was his hour at last to put a seal on my fate

Wipe out the past and watch me clean off the slate

All it would take was a flick of his knife

Vengeance was his and he gave me back my liiiiife.....
Feh...I bet the detective who chased him was also born into despair, and choose to work hard and rise above his meager beginnings. I doubt seriously the detective was a nobleman.
 
yikes... someone posted this on NOLA.com

CNN is reporting people jumping from the upper deck of the Superdome. Mass chaos inside with water now flooding the entire city. Gulf of Mexico can not be stopped. CNN saying there may be sixty feet of water in NOLA by six pm.
(sixty feet, is that accurate??, i only thought i was tops 8 ft below sealevel)
Typo? Maybe they meant 6 feet.
this sounds like complete garbage. the lake is flooding us to begin with and nobody is jumping from the upperdeck....sounds like geraldo at it again.
 
The footage on CNN of the man (Harvey Jackson) whose house split in half and he lost his wife was heartbraking and one of the saddest things Ive ever seen....

 
SLIDELL ?? Any news on Slidell? tv networks don't know anything, and I don't see anything on wdsu.com
I've got several folks from Slidell staying with me. They've been frustrated as well. The best source of info (how accurate??) is from the this forum on the wwltv website.
 

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