Keeper Discussion (1 Viewer)

[The Flying Elvis]

Just a tad bit early to start talking fantasy baseball but just wanted some input on some keepers I have to lock in.

I am in a 12 team H2H Points, 3 keeper league. It's not Roto but it is very competitive and because of it being H2H points, pitching tends to have a bit of an increased value with 7 pts per win, 3 per IP.

My top 2 keepers are going to be Trout and Kershaw. For my third spot I am deciding between Goldschmidt and Jose Fernandez. I feel like all the information says it is a easy choice for Goldy but I just need some reassurance.

Do you keep Goldy or Fernandez?

For reference, top 5 hitters last year = Cabrera, Trout, Goldy, Davis, McCutchen, scoring 650-550 pts.

Top 5 pitchers = Kershaw, Scherzer, Wainwright, Lee, Darvis, scoring 750-650 pts.

As you can see top pitching like Kershaw last year can kill points with 750 over a 650 Trout.

Last year Goldy scored 622 3.9 PPG and Fernandez scored 540 19PPG.

 

[Annyong]

I'd still keep Goldsmith

 

[thetman]

No brainer...Goldy

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Goldschmidt.

 

[Annyong]

We get $18 worth of keepers. Below is my team with their 2014 keeper value. What do you think?

Ryan Braun 9
Andrew McCutchen 9
Josh Hamilton 7
Dustin Pedroia 7
Giancarlo Stanton 7
Troy Tulowitzki 7
Mike Trout 4
Nelson Cruz 3
Salvador Pérez 3
Álex Rodríguez 2
Charlie Blackmon 1
Marlon Byrd 1
Chris Johnson 1



Stephen Strasburg 6
Matt Moore 5
Johnny Cueto 4
Zack Greinke 4
Cole Hamels 4
Joe Nathan 3
Fernando Rodney 3
Huston Street 3
Hiroki Kuroda 2
Henderson Álvarez 1

 

[Wrigley]

We get $18 worth of keepers. Below is my team with their 2014 keeper value. What do you think?

Ryan Braun 9
Andrew McCutchen 9
Josh Hamilton 7
Dustin Pedroia 7
Giancarlo Stanton 7
Troy Tulowitzki 7
Mike Trout 4
Nelson Cruz 3
Salvador Pérez 3
Álex Rodríguez 2
Charlie Blackmon 1
Marlon Byrd 1
Chris Johnson 1



Stephen Strasburg 6
Matt Moore 5
Johnny Cueto 4
Zack Greinke 4
Cole Hamels 4
Joe Nathan 3
Fernando Rodney 3
Huston Street 3
Hiroki Kuroda 2
Henderson Álvarez 1

Braun and McCutchin

 

[Good Posting Judge]

We get $18 worth of keepers. Below is my team with their 2014 keeper value. What do you think?

Ryan Braun 9
Andrew McCutchen 9
Josh Hamilton 7
Dustin Pedroia 7
Giancarlo Stanton 7
Troy Tulowitzki 7
Mike Trout 4
Nelson Cruz 3
Salvador Pérez 3
Álex Rodríguez 2
Charlie Blackmon 1
Marlon Byrd 1
Chris Johnson 1



Stephen Strasburg 6
Matt Moore 5
Johnny Cueto 4
Zack Greinke 4
Cole Hamels 4
Joe Nathan 3
Fernando Rodney 3
Huston Street 3
Hiroki Kuroda 2
Henderson Álvarez 1

Braun and McCutchin

Option 1: Trout, Cutch, Hamels, Alvarez (or trade someone for a better $1 player?)

Option 2: Trout, Tulo, Pedroia

Option 3: A-Rod, throw $16 back.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I think if you work backwards from the assumption that you're obviously keeping Trout, it becomes a little bit easier.

I think #2 might be best, but I like hitting.

 

[the moops]

trout tulo pedroia

 

[Wrigley]

We get $18 worth of keepers. Below is my team with their 2014 keeper value. What do you think?

Ryan Braun 9
Andrew McCutchen 9
Josh Hamilton 7
Dustin Pedroia 7
Giancarlo Stanton 7
Troy Tulowitzki 7
Mike Trout 4
Nelson Cruz 3
Salvador Pérez 3
Álex Rodríguez 2
Charlie Blackmon 1
Marlon Byrd 1
Chris Johnson 1



Stephen Strasburg 6
Matt Moore 5
Johnny Cueto 4
Zack Greinke 4
Cole Hamels 4
Joe Nathan 3
Fernando Rodney 3
Huston Street 3
Hiroki Kuroda 2
Henderson Álvarez 1

Braun and McCutchin

Option 1: Trout, Cutch, Hamels, Alvarez (or trade someone for a better $1 player?)

Option 2: Trout, Tulo, Pedroia

Option 3: A-Rod, throw $16 back.

no off season trading.

 

[Annyong]

Option 1: Trout, Cutch, Hamels, Alvarez (or trade someone for a better $1 player?)

Option 2: Trout, Tulo, Pedroia

Option 3: A-Rod, throw $16 back.

I guess this is where ill plan on going. Not exactly thrilled about it.

 

[RnR]

This may sound a little unconventional, but Trout, Strasburg, Greinke, Hamels could be a nice stash for $18.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Option 1: Trout, Cutch, Hamels, Alvarez (or trade someone for a better $1 player?)

Option 2: Trout, Tulo, Pedroia

Option 3: A-Rod, throw $16 back.

I guess this is where ill plan on going. Not exactly thrilled about it.

Two first-rounders and a 2nd/3rd rounder?

 

[Annyong]

Option 1: Trout, Cutch, Hamels, Alvarez (or trade someone for a better $1 player?)

Option 2: Trout, Tulo, Pedroia

Option 3: A-Rod, throw $16 back.

I guess this is where ill plan on going. Not exactly thrilled about it.

Two first-rounders and a 2nd/3rd rounder?

Yeah its the Tulo part that makes me nervous. If he wasnt so brittle i'd be more excited.

 

[Annyong]

This may sound a little unconventional, but Trout, Strasburg, Greinke, Hamels could be a nice stash for $18.

That's pretty interesting.

 

[RnR]

This may sound a little unconventional, but Trout, Strasburg, Greinke, Hamels could be a nice stash for $18.

That's pretty interesting.

Assuming you spend your first 5-6 picks on hitting, you should be pretty balanced 10 players into it.

 

[Wrigley]

Same league as Anny......$18 to spend

Miguel Cabrera 11
Jay Bruce 5
Prince Fielder 5
Aaron Hill 5
Ádám Jones 5
Edwin Encarnación 4
Aramis Ramírez 4
Ian Desmond 3
Torii Hunter 3
Josh Reddick 3
Rajai Davis 2
Adam Eaton 1
Craig Gentry 1
Jarrod Saltalamacchia 1

Max Scherzer 5
Mat Latos 4
Jered Weaver 4
Grant Balfour 3
Glen Perkins 3

A.J. Burnett 2
Anibal Sánchez 2
Ubaldo Jiménez 1
Scott Kazmir 1
Joe Kelly 1
Taijuan Walker 1
Jake Westbrook 1

 

[Annyong]

Prince Fielder 5

Ádám Jones 5

Edwin Encarnación 4

Adam Eaton 1

Anibal Sánchez 2

Ubaldo Jiménez 1

or

Joe Kelly 1

orTaijuan Walker 1

 

[Wrigley]

Prince Fielder 5

Ádám Jones 5

Edwin Encarnación 4

Adam Eaton 1

Anibal Sánchez 2

Ubaldo Jiménez 1

or

Joe Kelly 1

orTaijuan Walker 1

This was what I was thinking too......it doesn't look as bad as I originally thought

 

[Good Posting Judge]

This may sound a little unconventional, but Trout, Strasburg, Greinke, Hamels could be a nice stash for $18.

That's pretty interesting.

Assuming you spend your first 5-6 picks on hitting, you should be pretty balanced 10 players into it.

There's not going to be much hitting to choose from.

Pitchers get hurt constantly, and there are always going to be good arms avail. for people who are willing to dig for them. Go hitters.

For Wrigley, I'd rank Walker over Ubaldo. Wouldn't even consider Kelly.

 

[dparker713]

Same league as Anny......$18 to spend

Miguel Cabrera 11

Jay Bruce 5

Prince Fielder 5

Aaron Hill 5

Ádám Jones 5

Edwin Encarnación 4

Aramis Ramírez 4

Ian Desmond 3

Torii Hunter 3

Josh Reddick 3

Rajai Davis 2

Adam Eaton 1

Craig Gentry 1

Jarrod Saltalamacchia 1

Max Scherzer 5

Mat Latos 4

Jered Weaver 4

Grant Balfour 3

Glen Perkins 3

A.J. Burnett 2

Anibal Sánchez 2

Ubaldo Jiménez 1

Scott Kazmir 1

Joe Kelly 1

Taijuan Walker 1

Jake Westbrook 1

Miggy, E3, Eaton, Anibal OR Walker + Ubaldo

Would suck to throw back Scherzer, but with Miggy and E3 your offense is very well situated.

 

[Bobcat10]

Keep 4...

Yahoo H2H 5x5 category...

Batters Stat Categories: Runs ®, Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Hanley ss

Ellsbury of

Pujols 1b

Zobrist 2b/ss/of

Rosario c

Choo of

Felix sp

Shields sp

Buchholz sp

 

[Bobcat10]

BuMp

 

[RnR]

Hanley, Ellsbury and Felix are givens. Depends on how you feel about Pujols' chances of a rebound. Is there a MI position? Zobrist definitely has value in a league that requires 3 starting MIs.

 

[shadyridr]

5 player keeper league. We can only keep players 3 years. I have four locks but cant figure out the last plus i hate keeping too many pitchers but might not have a choice...

My 4 locks... Harper, goldy, sale, fernandez

My fifth... Minor, wacha, werth, gyorko, ryu, or jansen... Ugh

Leaning minor

 

[Don Quixote]

5 player keeper league. We can only keep players 3 years. I have four locks but cant figure out the last plus i hate keeping too many pitchers but might not have a choice...

My 4 locks... Harper, goldy, sale, fernandez

My fifth... Minor, wacha, werth, gyorko, ryu, or jansen... Ugh

Leaning minor

I like Gyorko. He played well once he got healthy, and I'm planning to target him in my leagues as a sleeper. But Minor is probably the safer pick.

 

[Bobcat10]

Hanley, Ellsbury and Felix are givens. Depends on how you feel about Pujols' chances of a rebound. Is there a MI position? Zobrist definitely has value in a league that requires 3 starting MIs.

No MI, just a UTIL.

Agree, I'm having issues about the 4th player.

My first round pick will be around 9th or 10th out of 16.

 

[Annyong]

Keep 4...

Yahoo H2H 5x5 category...

Batters Stat Categories: Runs ®, Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Hanley ss

Ellsbury of

Pujols 1b

Felix sp

 

[Bobcat10]

Here's one that gets more interesting at the end. Last year I kept a closer, who I ended up dropping, and I was one of the only teams keeping a closer.

Keep 10 total.

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL, NA, NA

Yahoo H2H 6x6 category...
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Losses (L), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Batters Stat Categories: Runs ®, Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG), On-base + Slugging Percentage (OPS)

Cabrera 3b
Kipnis 2b
Choo of
Victorino of
AsdCabrera ss
Rosario c
Jennings of
Texeiria 1b
Bogaerts ss/3b
Lowrie ss/2b
Frazier 3b
Swisher 1b/of
Felix sp
Sale sp
Bumgarner sp
Nathan rp
Street rp

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Here's one that gets more interesting at the end. Last year I kept a closer, who I ended up dropping, and I was one of the only teams keeping a closer.

Keep 10 total.

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL, NA, NA

Yahoo H2H 6x6 category...
Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Losses (L), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)
Batters Stat Categories: Runs ®, Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG), On-base + Slugging Percentage (OPS)

Cabrera 3b
Kipnis 2b
Choo of
Victorino of
AsdCabrera ss
Rosario c
Jennings of
Texeiria 1b
Bogaerts ss/3b
Lowrie ss/2b
Frazier 3b
Swisher 1b/of
Felix sp
Sale sp
Bumgarner sp
Nathan rp
Street rp

 

[the moops]

Cabrera 3b
Kipnis 2b
Choo of
Victorino of
AsdCabrera ss
Rosario c
Jennings of
Texeiria 1b
Bogaerts ss/3b
Lowrie ss/2b
Frazier 3b
Swisher 1b/of
Felix sp
Sale sp
Bumgarner sp
Nathan rp
Street rp

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Average league, $260 cap

$41 Adam Jones

$30 Jay Bruce

I can also restrict Bruce at $25 or pay $30 and keep him this year and next for that price. 12 keepers total, I have my other 11 picked out I think but this was is giving me some trouble. At the draft Jones probably goes around $45, Bruce probably between $35 and $40 depending on who is left. Maybe less, not sure. I have about $80 tied up in the other 11 keepers FWIW.

 

[dparker713]

Average league, $260 cap

$41 Adam Jones

$30 Jay Bruce

I can also restrict Bruce at $25 or pay $30 and keep him this year and next for that price. 12 keepers total, I have my other 11 picked out I think but this was is giving me some trouble. At the draft Jones probably goes around $45, Bruce probably between $35 and $40 depending on who is left. Maybe less, not sure. I have about $80 tied up in the other 11 keepers FWIW.

Unless you expect league inflation to be about 50%, I'd let them both walk in a 10 team mixed. Those are superstar prices. Neither of those guys are superstars.

 

[AcerFC]

Here is one of my league

We get 5 years to disperse to players (Can be one guy for 5, 5 guys for 1 or any combo)

Right now, I have Trout for 2 and Harper for 1 with 2 years left to give. I can drop Harper and get his year back with no penalty

So Trout (Rd 12) at 2 years is a no brainer. What do I do with the remaining 3 years between these guys

Machado (Rd 10)

S Miller (Rd 18)

A Cobb (Rd 14)

J Segura (Rd 22)

C Granderson (Rd 10)

B Harper (Rd 17)- 1 year remaining

Im leaning on dropping Harper and keeping Segura, Cobb and Miller. I may have a taker for Machado for a 3rd rounder but unsure about that. The guy offered me a first for him last year and I turned it down.

 

[Bobcat10]

$25 seems like the best option of the 3. Especially if what u posted will be their values on draft day.

 

[RnR]

Here is one of my league

We get 5 years to disperse to players (Can be one guy for 5, 5 guys for 1 or any combo)

Right now, I have Trout for 2 and Harper for 1 with 2 years left to give. I can drop Harper and get his year back with no penalty

So Trout (Rd 12) at 2 years is a no brainer. What do I do with the remaining 3 years between these guys

Machado (Rd 10)

S Miller (Rd 18)

A Cobb (Rd 14)

J Segura (Rd 22)

C Granderson (Rd 10)

B Harper (Rd 17)- 1 year remaining

Im leaning on dropping Harper and keeping Segura, Cobb and Miller. I may have a taker for Machado for a 3rd rounder but unsure about that. The guy offered me a first for him last year and I turned it down.

Why would you want to drop Harper? I may be reading this wrong, but I'd think you'd want to keep Trout, Harper, Segura and Machado.

 

[AcerFC]

Here is one of my league

We get 5 years to disperse to players (Can be one guy for 5, 5 guys for 1 or any combo)

Right now, I have Trout for 2 and Harper for 1 with 2 years left to give. I can drop Harper and get his year back with no penalty

So Trout (Rd 12) at 2 years is a no brainer. What do I do with the remaining 3 years between these guys

Machado (Rd 10)

S Miller (Rd 18)

A Cobb (Rd 14)

J Segura (Rd 22)

C Granderson (Rd 10)

B Harper (Rd 17)- 1 year remaining

Im leaning on dropping Harper and keeping Segura, Cobb and Miller. I may have a taker for Machado for a 3rd rounder but unsure about that. The guy offered me a first for him last year and I turned it down.

Why would you want to drop Harper? I may be reading this wrong, but I'd think you'd want to keep Trout, Harper, Segura and Machado.

He hasnt done much. he was good at the beginning of last year and then tailed off. I was figuring on keeping the pitching so I didnt have to worry about it. Maybe you are right though. I can keep all four guys you listed.

 

[RnR]

I would just assume that its much easier to acquire a guy like Miller/Cobb in the draft than it would be to replicate the upside of Harper.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Average league, $260 cap

$41 Adam Jones

$30 Jay Bruce

I can also restrict Bruce at $25 or pay $30 and keep him this year and next for that price. 12 keepers total, I have my other 11 picked out I think but this was is giving me some trouble. At the draft Jones probably goes around $45, Bruce probably between $35 and $40 depending on who is left. Maybe less, not sure. I have about $80 tied up in the other 11 keepers FWIW.

Unless you expect league inflation to be about 50%, I'd let them both walk in a 10 team mixed. Those are superstar prices. Neither of those guys are superstars.

It's a 12 team keeper, 12 players kept, you can keep up to five years. Bryce Harper is $7, Mike Trout is $6, and Kipnis is $3 for example.

$41 is not a superstar price, Cabrera went for $60 last year.

 

[Don Quixote]

Here is one of my league

We get 5 years to disperse to players (Can be one guy for 5, 5 guys for 1 or any combo)

Right now, I have Trout for 2 and Harper for 1 with 2 years left to give. I can drop Harper and get his year back with no penalty

So Trout (Rd 12) at 2 years is a no brainer. What do I do with the remaining 3 years between these guys

Machado (Rd 10)

S Miller (Rd 18)

A Cobb (Rd 14)

J Segura (Rd 22)

C Granderson (Rd 10)

B Harper (Rd 17)- 1 year remaining

Im leaning on dropping Harper and keeping Segura, Cobb and Miller. I may have a taker for Machado for a 3rd rounder but unsure about that. The guy offered me a first for him last year and I turned it down.

Why would you want to drop Harper? I may be reading this wrong, but I'd think you'd want to keep Trout, Harper, Segura and Machado.

He hasnt done much. he was good at the beginning of last year and then tailed off. I was figuring on keeping the pitching so I didnt have to worry about it. Maybe you are right though. I can keep all four guys you listed.

Nats-colored glasses here, but Harper was playing through a number of injuries last year. He wasn't the same after crashing into the wall. I think you'll see closer to his early season form this year.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Keep Harper for two, trade Machado.

 

[dparker713]

Average league, $260 cap

$41 Adam Jones

$30 Jay Bruce

I can also restrict Bruce at $25 or pay $30 and keep him this year and next for that price. 12 keepers total, I have my other 11 picked out I think but this was is giving me some trouble. At the draft Jones probably goes around $45, Bruce probably between $35 and $40 depending on who is left. Maybe less, not sure. I have about $80 tied up in the other 11 keepers FWIW.

Unless you expect league inflation to be about 50%, I'd let them both walk in a 10 team mixed. Those are superstar prices. Neither of those guys are superstars.

It's a 12 team keeper, 12 players kept, you can keep up to five years. Bryce Harper is $7, Mike Trout is $6, and Kipnis is $3 for example.

$41 is not a superstar price, Cabrera went for $60 last year.

Well, Cabrera is at close to 50% inflation there. But anywho, I'd keep Bruce. He's cheaper, Jones will only run less as he ages, he's got a crazy low walk rate, and his swinging strike rate is trending poorly. Not a guy I'd be looking to invest that much in.

 

[AcerFC]

Keep Harper for two, trade Machado.

can't. Harper only has one year left

 

[dparker713]

Keep Harper for two, trade Machado.

can't. Harper only has one year left

Keep Harper and Segura. Take your pick of Cobb or Miller. Throw Machado back.

 

[LOCO]

12 team h2h 10 team keeper. 1 ulitity spot I need him w last keeper. Gyorko vs Cespedes The 9 that are in:

Davis

Kipnis

Kbog

Stanton

Harper

Carlos Gonzales

Strasburg

Kershaw

Felix

I can keep Gyorko w (2nd/3rd base eligibility) or cespedes (at ulitity)??? Lean Gyorko but tantalized by cespedes upside and power. What u fellas think???

 

[Bobcat10]

Cespedes imo.

Kbog = Bogaerts?

 

[Annyong]

Cespedes imo.

Kbog = Bogaerts?

Another vote for Cespedes. Also no idea who Kbog is. Hate when people make up nicknames.

 

[LOCO]

Cespedes imo.

Kbog = Bogaerts?

Yes.

Thanks. One vote for cespedes.

 

[LOCO]

Cespedes imo.

Kbog = Bogaerts?

Yes.

Thanks. One vote for cespedes.

And now it's two.

 

[the moops]

why kbog? that makes no sense