KEEPER HELP! Which 2 Should I keep? - Leave a link (1 Viewer)

[4th&inches]

I'm looking for some advice on my last 2 keepers

**Notes/ League Info:

• 12-team, .5PPR keeper league (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, K, DST).
• We can keep up to 4 players (originally) drafted after the 5th round
• The round listed after the player = the draft round I'd be giving up in this draft (ex. Laporta would be my draft pick in round 11).
  • if keeping 2 players with the same round (ex. Achane & LaPorta), 1 player would move round back (ex: 11th & 12th rd picks)

Planning to Keep:
Sam LaPorta (TE - DET) = 11th round pick
Puka Nacua (WR - LAR) = 17th (last) round pick

Keeper Choices (draft round) - Pick 2:

• Amon-Ra St. Brown = 4th round pick
• De'Von Achane (Mia - RB) 11th round pick
• Nico Collins (Hou - WR) - 14th round pick

Other options (can keep, but basically ruled out b/c above are better IMO:

• Zamir White (LV - RB) - 11th round pick
• Trey McBride (Ari - TE) - 17th (last) round pick

Leave a link and I'll answer all your questions too.

 

[afranchina88]

St Brown and achane

 

[Rubi]

The Sun God and Tom Collins brother
not even close for me

 

[4th&inches]

The Sun God and Tom Collins brother
not even close for me

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. ARSB seems like a for-sure 3rd keeper, but if you don't mind me asking what's your reasoning for choosing Collins over Achane? Especially in a 2WR, 1Flex league?

Not saying I disagree, just looking to pick your brain.

thanks again,

 

[Rubi]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

 

[Big Nate]

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

 

[Jaruby]

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

 

[BassNBrew]

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

 

[4th&inches]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

Thank you all for the comments and input. I greatly appreciate it.

Not to go off the rails, but would it be crazy to keep Collins (14th rd) or McBride (16th rd) over LaPorta in the 11th? Especially if I'm gonna be keeping ARSB in the 4th?

Thanks again!

 

[Jaruby]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

Thank you all for the comments and input. I greatly appreciate it.

Not to go off the rails, but would it be crazy to keep Collins (14th rd) or McBride (16th rd) over LaPorta in the 11th? Especially if I'm gonna be keeping ARSB in the 4th?

Thanks again!

Not at all. I just wouldn’t do it. I think Laporta is the best value and player out of them.

 

[Big Nate]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

Thank you all for the comments and input. I greatly appreciate it.

Not to go off the rails, but would it be crazy to keep Collins (14th rd) or McBride (16th rd) over LaPorta in the 11th? Especially if I'm gonna be keeping ARSB in the 4th?

Thanks again!

McBride or Collins are interesting as the value is quite nice but I feel like LaPorta's role is solidified as the #2 target getter at worst in that offense. He also has a good rapport with Goff that should only grow with more playing time. Once you get to the 11th round+ all the players left start to meld together and a "reach" for a player doesn't become that much of an issue.


Curious - does anyone trade players in this league to improve their keepers? Seems like you have some good value. Would anyone give you some sort of pick to keep McBride in the 16th? Like even if they gave up say a 10th round pick plus their 16th that is still great value for McBride. Gives you back a little something rather than throwing him back to the draft. Could you possibly trade Collins or McBride for a pick? Not sure what appropriate value would be in your league but I often would do that in my keeper leagues and squeeze out an extra pick.

 

[djjosee]

I'm a sucker for value (to my demise)

De'Von Achane (Mia - RB) 11th round pick
Nico Collins (Hou - WR) - 14th round pick

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

Thank you all for the comments and input. I greatly appreciate it.

Not to go off the rails, but would it be crazy to keep Collins (14th rd) or McBride (16th rd) over LaPorta in the 11th? Especially if I'm gonna be keeping ARSB in the 4th?

Thanks again!

McBride or Collins are interesting as the value is quite nice but I feel like LaPorta's role is solidified as the #2 target getter at worst in that offense. He also has a good rapport with Goff that should only grow with more playing time. Once you get to the 11th round+ all the players left start to meld together and a "reach" for a player doesn't become that much of an issue.

this all day long imo. i get why one might shy away from taking two receivers from the same team, but this one's got a very low risk. I can see going for Collins maybe, but certainly not McBride. LaPorta & McBride stats last year were very close except the TD numbers, which is huge for LaPorta. McBride though had the biggest target share for AZ, which probably won't be true this year. I can see his TD numbers going up from last year, even match LaPorta perhaps, but his target share surely will suffer with MHJr there.

 

[4th&inches]

My own rankings I have Collins 10 spots ahead of Achane overall.
He's going to get more snaps for sure.
Mostert is still RB1 in Miami
Collins is arguably WR1 in Houston and no worse than WR1A
Miami WANTS to run the ball more but they're still a pass first team.
Even with Mixon Houston is a pass first team.

St Brown and achane

I'm on this side.

I take Achane to fill in a RB spot especially since its only 0.5PPR not a full point. With Puka and ARSB I'd feel more comfortable plugging in a very good RB with an 11th round pick. Amazing value.

I like Collins but Diggs is going to get his share of the pie along with Dell.

So for me it comes down to filling in an RB spot as it is only 0.5PPR and lots of target competition in HOU.

I couldn't imagine sending Achane back into the draft and keeping a 3rd WR (as much as I like Collins).

Achane has no floor and that gives me pause. He did those amazing things last year with like half the touches that others got to get to his stat line, is that sustainable? I in no way am taking a stand that it isn't, I am saying I trust guarantee floor numbers over these lofty numbers unless he's my RB4. I realize this is a very conservative approach, but the other two are a much better known, great commodities.

ARSB for sure no brainer.
If it was just 2 of those 3 you put in the pole I’d consider Nico but since you already have Laporta and Puka I’d keep Achane.

Laporta
St. Brown
Puka
Achane

Per FBG: Achane 204 pts, Nico 189

If 30 yr old Mosert miss time which has been known to happen, Achane joins the ranks of Taylor, Barkley, Bijan

Thank you all for the comments and input. I greatly appreciate it.

Not to go off the rails, but would it be crazy to keep Collins (14th rd) or McBride (16th rd) over LaPorta in the 11th? Especially if I'm gonna be keeping ARSB in the 4th?

Thanks again!

McBride or Collins are interesting as the value is quite nice but I feel like LaPorta's role is solidified as the #2 target getter at worst in that offense. He also has a good rapport with Goff that should only grow with more playing time. Once you get to the 11th round+ all the players left start to meld together and a "reach" for a player doesn't become that much of an issue.


Curious - does anyone trade players in this league to improve their keepers? Seems like you have some good value. Would anyone give you some sort of pick to keep McBride in the 16th? Like even if they gave up say a 10th round pick plus their 16th that is still great value for McBride. Gives you back a little something rather than throwing him back to the draft. Could you possibly trade Collins or McBride for a pick? Not sure what appropriate value would be in your league but I often would do that in my keeper leagues and squeeze out an extra pick.

Great call. This is exactly what I’m trying to pull off now. Needed to make my decision on who I was firmly gonna keep before I looked to make a deal.

I’ve typically looked at where a guys is typically being drafted, account for keepers moving that guy up the draft boards, and then sorta splitting the difference to make it fair

ex. Collins would likely have a late 2/ early 3rd round value. Keeper round = 14. So maybe trade him for like a 7th/8th rd pick).

Thanks all for the advice!