Keeper League Advice (1 Viewer)

[TOWNBOUND]

Ok, so the guys in my Fantasy Football League want to make it into a keeper league, and I am having trouble getting everyone to agree on the rules for the Keepers (I have never done this before). I am looking for anyone who has experience in Keeper Leagues to give me some guidance, and advice on the subject of Keeper Leagues in general. I am looking specifically at which players are available to be designated as Keepers, as well as what you will have to give up in order to keep certaing players.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

We keep only 1 player. (Personally hate the drama of dynasty leagues)

You keep the player at the price of 2 rounds (i.e. You draft Gates in Round 3 in 2007. Costa a Round 1 pick in 2008). Therefore players drafted in the 1st 2 rounds can't be kept. Keeps the draft fun each year.

Players picked up during the season have a default Round 10 value (Cost your 8th rounder the following year). And players drafted before Round 10 remain at their draft price (i.e. If Santana Moss was drafted in Round 7....then dropped, he still remains Round 7 value or Round 5 to keep the following year (preventing some sort of collusion).

 

[Fear The Turtle]

We keep only 1 player. (Personally hate the drama of dynasty leagues)

You keep the player at the price of 2 rounds (i.e. You draft Gates in Round 3 in 2007. Costa a Round 1 pick in 2008). Therefore players drafted in the 1st 2 rounds can't be kept. Keeps the draft fun each year.

Players picked up during the season have a default Round 10 value (Cost your 8th rounder the following year). And players drafted before Round 10 remain at their draft price (i.e. If Santana Moss was drafted in Round 7....then dropped, he still remains Round 7 value or Round 5 to keep the following year (preventing some sort of collusion).

I'm in a long time league and we just added exactly this feature this year: one keeper at the price of two rounds. We also stipulated that you must keep the player on your roster the entire year for him to be keeper-eligible. Also, keeper value doesn't follow with a trade.I'm also in an auction/keeper league (by far, my favorite) where we can keep up to three players at 30% above the price we drafted them for. Also, the max a player can be kept is three years and traded players keep their value and are "keepable" by the tradee. In addition, we allow trading of keeper spots in the off-season so a team can have 4, 5, 6... keepers possibly.

 

[cws3030]

either keep it a redraft or keep everyone and have a rookie draft every year

 

[TOWNBOUND]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

 

[Fear The Turtle]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

Right, you definitely have to protect against game playing with injured players or even studs in general. Say the last place team (inexplicably) has LT. Assuming your league has worst-to-first waiver wire pickups, the team could drop LT and then pick him up the following week and he would then have the waiver wire keeper value instead of his true drafted value. The one league I'm in protects against this by saying a player has to be rostered all year or he can't be kept the following year. Or you could just say the player maintains his original drafted value regardless of whether he was dropped for injury or whatever.

 

[TOWNBOUND]

So you guys all say that a player has to be drafted, and rostered all year to be eligible for a Keeper? See, that makes sense to me, and I have also heard this from other people. The only difference is that I have been leaning towards the Keeper only being worth what his original drafted round was (since this is the first Keeper year), then starting next year we can move up guys 2 spots. Does anyone see a problem with this? The other thing is, What do I do if I have a guy I want to keep and he was taken in the 3rd round this year? He will be worth a 1st round pick next year, and unavailable as a Keeper the year after?

 

[Bulldog96]

We keep 3 Players drafted from the 3rd RD - 8th... for 3 years (starting from the year drafted). There's NO ROUNDS LOST per player. We added a 4th year for players drafted from RD 9 - 17. Every following year, we draft 14 RDs + 3 keepers = 17 RDs total.

Only ONE RB per team and 2 QB/WR/TE can be kept... this assures everyone a shot at 2 solid RB's before entering the 2nd RD (it keeps teams from stockpiling RB's or ANY position for that matter). Balance is kept by allowing only one RB and forcing owners to pick up the other thru the draft. Without it, they'll simply bypass RB's and go straight for the stud QB/WR's and roll over everyone...

This system keeps it simple for the commish and ALL teams involved. No need to count RDs and all teams are on the same page. Contracts follow any traded player... Free agents have 3 year contracts.

Once their contracts are up, they're thrown back... UNLESS we decide to Franchise Tag ONE player. The franchise tag costs owners their 3rd RD pick and can only extend a player's contract for ONE additional year. Since the keeper RDs start in the 3rd, it's a fairly steep price to pay to add one year. Unless, of course, they're worth it.

Keep it simple and your owners will have fun with it... by starting in the 3rd RD, you assure ALL teams will have a chance to field strong keepers. It also assures that the bottom-dwellers from the previous year will get first dibs at the keeper rounds. (Most leagues follow a serpentine draft order and award the 1st pick to the last place team. Since that team will pick at the top of the odd numbered rounds, they have first choice at the keeper rounds (3rd RD...). Our first keeper pick in '07 was Adrian Peterson >>> followed by Javon Walker, McNabb, Driver, T.J. Housh, MJD, Benson, Boldin, Lynch, Hines Ward, Burress, and Caddy... whom was followed up with Randy Moss in the 4th.)

Hope that helps...

 

[BigSteelThrill]

either keep it a redraft or keep everyone and have a rookie draft every year

Why on Gods green earth would he do that?I play/played in every league from dynasty-redraft-auction-salary-keeper...and the funnest leagues bar none are keeper leagues. Especially ones that use a Banzai Method draft and allow open trading of future picks and include IDPs.Redrafts are cool as are Dynasty, but limited keepers are the most fun of all.

 

[jscout]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

IMHO, if you decide to implement a keeper system, you should start next season. It would be unfair to use this year's rosters. Knowing that you have keepers does affect how you draft. So you should determine the keeper rules and then redraft. But then again, if nobody objects, don't redraft.

 

[RUSF18]

Exactly. My work league had wanted to go with keepers (for 2006) in the middle of the 2005 season, but it created a whole mess of issues when people complained about how it would have changed their draft strategies or how they made trades during the year. Most of the complaints were valid.

And to OP...no one really drafted Wes Welker in a draft of at least 17 rounds?

 

[Utter Chaos]

We keep only 1 player. (Personally hate the drama of dynasty leagues)

You keep the player at the price of 2 rounds (i.e. You draft Gates in Round 3 in 2007. Costa a Round 1 pick in 2008). Therefore players drafted in the 1st 2 rounds can't be kept. Keeps the draft fun each year.

Players picked up during the season have a default Round 10 value (Cost your 8th rounder the following year). And players drafted before Round 10 remain at their draft price (i.e. If Santana Moss was drafted in Round 7....then dropped, he still remains Round 7 value or Round 5 to keep the following year (preventing some sort of collusion).

We do something very similiar except for the players picked up during the season. The week he was picked up would be his "draft round". For instance, if Wes Welker was picked up in the 2nd week of the NFL season he would be considered a 2nd round pick. Likewise if somebody like Ahmad Bradshaw was picked up this week he would be considered a 17th round pick.

 

[jeremyx13]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

Below is the rules we follow for keepers. It keeps the talent in the draft and rewards good drafts not just lucky waiver wire pickups. Good Luck!KEEPER RULES 1. Prior to the draft each year, 0-3 players from previous year's roster may be retained. 2. Each player retained on current year's roster will reduce the number of draft picks a team may select the current season. Each player kept will replace a draft pick 2 rounds higher than selected the previous season. Therefore, no player selected in the first two rounds may ever be kept. 3. No player may be kept on one team's roster for more than three seasons. 4. Only players originally drafted by a owner's team may be kept from one season to the next. e.g. a player picked up on waivers or received during a trade is ineligible to be kept.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I ran into a similar situation in my main league a few years ago and here is what we did.

#1 - for your intial draft, do an auction. So every has a chance at everyone.

#2 - Make your keepers be in the 12-15 range, which ever you like.

#3 - make your roster size big, say 20-22

#4 - allow for off-season trading at anytime

this is a fun little side league me and the compadres have had going for a few years now

 

[pollardsvision]

there are a million ways to do it, but one thing i would suggest anyone must do before switching a league from redraft to keeper or dynasty is switch to an auction draft.

this will make things simpler as i assume within 3 years everyone will have figured out that a snake draft is silly and want to switch to an auction. making this inevitable switch later down the road will complicate things for your league (speaking from experience).

 

[Road Warriors]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

My league does a keep 2 with the 2 round draft position rules ( drafted in 5, keep for your 3rd in the following year)For players like Welker and Graham, thats the bonus of the keeper system. You get a leg up next year for staying on top of situations during the season, and for late round gems. Players like Ronnie Brown, who was likely drafted during your regular draft this year, even though dropped, he would retain his draft slot, so if he was drafted in the 2nd round, he wouldn't be keeper eligible. We instituted that rule very early on in the season.We do allow keeper status to follow trades, which, in our case, increases offseason trading ( which we have include draft picks,as well )Our rules state that if you have 2 keepers for the same round, you'll give that round and your next earlier draft pick ( so in your scenario, you'd give your 5th and 6th round picks.By keeping the number of keepers down, and keeping the top 2 rounds of draft picks in the draft pool every year, you shouldn't end up with a franchise that really has to rebuild over several years before being competitive. Every team, with a good draft, can be successful each year. Teams that spot breakout talent early can have a nice advantage for their research and foresight.

 

[Road Warriors]

So you guys all say that a player has to be drafted, and rostered all year to be eligible for a Keeper? See, that makes sense to me, and I have also heard this from other people. The only difference is that I have been leaning towards the Keeper only being worth what his original drafted round was (since this is the first Keeper year), then starting next year we can move up guys 2 spots. Does anyone see a problem with this? The other thing is, What do I do if I have a guy I want to keep and he was taken in the 3rd round this year? He will be worth a 1st round pick next year, and unavailable as a Keeper the year after?

When we switched to keeper from redraft, we got the rules in place and started fresh. I would strongly recommend following this strategy, as your draft decisions, espcially late rounds, will differ knowing your keeper rules. I don't think it is fair to everyone to take rosters built as redraft teams and make them the basis for keepers.As for your question with the 2 rounds formula, yes, that is how a kept 3rd round pick would work. Cost a 1st in the 1st year of being retained, then not eligible to be kept in year 2.

 

[Mene]

A league I run is going to try becoming a Keeper league next year. Below is what we have come up with thus far as our rules :

--Keeper Rules

Each team is allowed to keep 0-3 players each season. You may keep one player with an ADP of 3.1 - 9.12, one player with an ADP of 10.1 - INF, and one player selected in the rookie draft. You may keep a player selected in the Main Draft for up to 3 years. After the third year, the player must be released back into the draft. You may keep a player selected in the rookie draft for 4 years, but at escalating value, which is outlined below:

First Season Owned: No Keeper Value Yet

Second Season Owned: Rookie Draft Selection Keeper Value

Third Season Owned: ADP 10.1 - INF Keeper Value

Fourth Season Owned: ADP 3.1 - 9.12 Keeper Value, must be released after this season

Players added to your roster via Trade/Free Agency/Waiver/Claim will be assigned a Keeper Value matching their ADP. Keepers must be submitted on the day we determine draft order. If a player selected as a keeper is placed on IR before the Draft, that team will receive a supplemental pick dependant on which pool the player was from. If your ADP 3.1 - 9.12 keeper is injured, you will get a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 5th round. If it is your 10.1 - INF keeper, you receive a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 11th round.

One thing we do not have that I seem to see mentioned a lot is some sort of a penalty, or steep price, assigned to players kept. Our plan, as layed out above, is for no lost picks, just limits on the ranges from which you may select your keepers.

I'll willingly listen to any holes in the above rules any of you keeper veterans notice.

 

[Road Warriors]

A league I run is going to try becoming a Keeper league next year. Below is what we have come up with thus far as our rules :--Keeper Rules Each team is allowed to keep 0-3 players each season. You may keep one player with an ADP of 3.1 - 9.12, one player with an ADP of 10.1 - INF, and one player selected in the rookie draft. You may keep a player selected in the Main Draft for up to 3 years. After the third year, the player must be released back into the draft. You may keep a player selected in the rookie draft for 4 years, but at escalating value, which is outlined below:First Season Owned: No Keeper Value YetSecond Season Owned: Rookie Draft Selection Keeper ValueThird Season Owned: ADP 10.1 - INF Keeper ValueFourth Season Owned: ADP 3.1 - 9.12 Keeper Value, must be released after this season Players added to your roster via Trade/Free Agency/Waiver/Claim will be assigned a Keeper Value matching their ADP. Keepers must be submitted on the day we determine draft order. If a player selected as a keeper is placed on IR before the Draft, that team will receive a supplemental pick dependant on which pool the player was from. If your ADP 3.1 - 9.12 keeper is injured, you will get a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 5th round. If it is your 10.1 - INF keeper, you receive a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 11th round.One thing we do not have that I seem to see mentioned a lot is some sort of a penalty, or steep price, assigned to players kept. Our plan, as layed out above, is for no lost picks, just limits on the ranges from which you may select your keepers. I'll willingly listen to any holes in the above rules any of you keeper veterans notice.

So your league has 2 drafts? One of currently rostered NFL players, and one for entering rookies? How many rounds for each?I'm curious how the Keeper selection works. Lets say you got ADP in the rookie draft this year. Declaring keepers for 2008, you keep him as your rookie keeper, then can keep one player drafted after 10 and one drafted between 3-9. That makes sense. Now, if you want to retain ADP in 2009, you'll declare him as your 10-INF level keeper, allowing you to keep a 3-9 and another Rookie? The only hole I see is it gives a lot of potential to teams picking at the top of the rookie draft to be dominant. ADP is a prime example. By seperating the NFL pool from the rookie pool, you allow a handful of teams drafting in the rookie pool to get the real gems outside the context of where they fit overall in the talent pool. If there were a combined draft, ADP would have been a keeper in the 3-9 range from this year. Rethinking this, I don't think its a hole, but it does open up a number of interesting strategies if you allow draft pick trading. I would be looking, under these rules, to be acquiring as many top rookie picks as I could. You could build a very strong 2 or 3 deep keeper base with the right rookies.

 

[TOWNBOUND]

IMHO, if you decide to implement a keeper system, you should start next season. It would be unfair to use this year's rosters. Knowing that you have keepers does affect how you draft. So you should determine the keeper rules and then redraft. But then again, if nobody objects, don't redraft.

I agree completely, but everyone wants to do it this year... problem is, we can't all agree on one version of the rules.I got some pretty good feedback in this forum, and I'm sure we'll figure out something... Thanks alot guys.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

We are torn between keeping 2 or 3. So I drafted Brett Favre in the 17th... that means I would get him as a 15th round selection? Jamal Lewis in the 6th, so a 4th round pick for him? Free agents pick ups are default 10th round? No one drafted Wes Welker, so he is only worth a 10th round selection?! Earnest Graham too? That's wild! I don't know if the guys in my league would go for that. Basically, I have heard other people say that where you drafted the person last year is the round you have to give up in the draft. But the problem is that somebody picked up players like Ronnie Brown, and players that have been on IR all year but will produce next year. Also, say you have 2 guys from the same round? What should you have to give up if I have my 8th round pick, and a guy I picked up off waivers who was drafted in the 8th round? I only have 1 6th round pick, so how does that work?

IMHO, if you decide to implement a keeper system, you should start next season. It would be unfair to use this year's rosters. Knowing that you have keepers does affect how you draft. So you should determine the keeper rules and then redraft. But then again, if nobody objects, don't redraft.

. In addition, with regards to waiver wire pickups, my league does it where the acquired player retains the draft slot of the dropped player. For example, Darrell Jackson drafted in 8th rd is dropped for Ryan Grant. Ryan Grant now holds the 8th rd slot. My league doesn't employ a 2 rd cost for keeping a player. So, next year, if you wanted to keep Grant, you would lose your 8th rd pick. Also, let's say you have Ronnie Brown on your roster (drafted in first rd). If you attempt to drop him and pick him back up for a lower rd pick, you have to wait a week before doing so. This gives the rest of the league an opportunity to pick him up without you gaming the system. With regards to keeping two players with the same round value, one player holds the round that he was drafted and the other player holds the next round (example, LT and SJax occupy rounds one and two, so no pick until 3rd rd). Round value should follow trades. We don't have a limit on number of years you are able to keep a player. We only keep 2.

 

[rod0041]

Our keeper pool is IDP (must play 3 D players).... 20 man roster. We are allowed up to 10 keepers with a max cap of 1000 pts. Works great for us - offseason trading is great with the ability to trade draft picks. I think 10 keepers is a bit much as we are ending up with haves and have not teams..... i think going to 5 keepers may help resolve this problem.. I would also like the ability to trade cap points in our pool...

 

[Mene]

A league I run is going to try becoming a Keeper league next year. Below is what we have come up with thus far as our rules :--Keeper Rules Each team is allowed to keep 0-3 players each season. You may keep one player with an ADP of 3.1 - 9.12, one player with an ADP of 10.1 - INF, and one player selected in the rookie draft. You may keep a player selected in the Main Draft for up to 3 years. After the third year, the player must be released back into the draft. You may keep a player selected in the rookie draft for 4 years, but at escalating value, which is outlined below:First Season Owned: No Keeper Value YetSecond Season Owned: Rookie Draft Selection Keeper ValueThird Season Owned: ADP 10.1 - INF Keeper ValueFourth Season Owned: ADP 3.1 - 9.12 Keeper Value, must be released after this season Players added to your roster via Trade/Free Agency/Waiver/Claim will be assigned a Keeper Value matching their ADP. Keepers must be submitted on the day we determine draft order. If a player selected as a keeper is placed on IR before the Draft, that team will receive a supplemental pick dependant on which pool the player was from. If your ADP 3.1 - 9.12 keeper is injured, you will get a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 5th round. If it is your 10.1 - INF keeper, you receive a pick equaling the 13th pick in the 11th round.One thing we do not have that I seem to see mentioned a lot is some sort of a penalty, or steep price, assigned to players kept. Our plan, as layed out above, is for no lost picks, just limits on the ranges from which you may select your keepers. I'll willingly listen to any holes in the above rules any of you keeper veterans notice.

So your league has 2 drafts? One of currently rostered NFL players, and one for entering rookies? How many rounds for each?I'm curious how the Keeper selection works. Lets say you got ADP in the rookie draft this year. Declaring keepers for 2008, you keep him as your rookie keeper, then can keep one player drafted after 10 and one drafted between 3-9. That makes sense. Now, if you want to retain ADP in 2009, you'll declare him as your 10-INF level keeper, allowing you to keep a 3-9 and another Rookie? The only hole I see is it gives a lot of potential to teams picking at the top of the rookie draft to be dominant. ADP is a prime example. By seperating the NFL pool from the rookie pool, you allow a handful of teams drafting in the rookie pool to get the real gems outside the context of where they fit overall in the talent pool. If there were a combined draft, ADP would have been a keeper in the 3-9 range from this year. Rethinking this, I don't think its a hole, but it does open up a number of interesting strategies if you allow draft pick trading. I would be looking, under these rules, to be acquiring as many top rookie picks as I could. You could build a very strong 2 or 3 deep keeper base with the right rookies.

Yes, 2 seperate drafts. The rookie Draft is 2 rounds, the main draft will be 12 rounds, with the 3 keepers making our 17. The rookie Draft order will always be determined by record the previous year, like the NFL. The Main draft will remain a random draw. We do also intend to allow Draft Pick trading, but to keep things in order and to try to curb firesales, you are only allowed to gain 1 pick in each draft. Conversely, you may only lose 1 pick in each draft. This will prevent the stockpiling of Draft picks, specifically rookie picks. You can continue to package a pick to improve, but never complete a trade that results in you gaining 2 picks in either draft.As I said, these our plans for next year, we've not seen them in action yet. I posted them in this thread to see if I could get some feedback. There is always the risk there is something we aren't thinking of.

 

[thayman]

My favorite is a keep 6 league. You can only protect a player for 3 seasons, and the amount of keepers you protect effects your draft slot. We do a rookie/non-kept player draft, if you protect 6 players you don't get a pick until round 7. If you protect no one you get a 1st round pick. This has really helped some of the weaker owners, and changes the strategy a bit as far as how many guys you want to protect in order to get a higher pick.

 

[senor peso 2006]

For what it is worth my 10 team league keeps up to 4 on an 18 man roster ( 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 2LB and 2DB. bench spot for each postion except Flex and K). Keep them for as long as you want and they never cost you draft picks. The starting year was the only serpantine draft after that it became a straight draft worst to first. Right before the draft, teams declare who they will keep and everyone not kept goes back into the pool along with the rookies. Its a fairly liquid league, on several occasions teams have dropped everyone to start over and find themselves in the playoffs that year. Last year of the top 4 teams only one team repeated going back to the playoffs. My advice, keep it simple and have fun.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Have your rules in place before you start one. Changing them after the initial draft can be hard.

Take the next few months to hammer this out and set them. Let your league know this is the time for feedback, compromise, an discussion. Once set, that's it. New rules on need only.

What kind of owners do you have?

If you force all owners to keep a certain # of keepers, you will have some bad teams with little hope and hard to replace.

We have a rookie draft before the NFL draft. Select on rookie. The next rookie draft, you can keep your previous years rookie or get a new one. The ADP owner is pretty happy now.

Good luck.

 

[TOWNBOUND]

Wow! Got a lot of GREAT feedback on the subject.

Basically I set forth some rules, and we are going to put every arguement or disagreement to a vote. If that doesn't work, we will just redraft this year, with every intention of going into a Keeper League format after.

 

[Husker]

Every team keeps four. Originally, each team keeps four from their prior year's roster. After the original claims, the waiver wire is open during the offseason. So, if I have Romo, LT2, MJD, Ronnie Brown, and Chad Johnson, I am forced to drop Ronnie Brown. Then, during the offseason, a team could pick up Ronnie Brown banking on a good year next year.

We've done it that way since 1992. It's worked pretty well. It stimulates some offseason moves. It also stimulates some offseason trading where someone with 5 legitimate keepers may try to trade one for a future year's draft pick. The person trading for the player guarantees that he will get the player as opposed to hoping the player will slip through waivers.

You can keep the same player for as long as you like which creates a mini-dynasty feel and yet there is a meaningful draft each year (not just rookies). A few years back we added that incoming rookies can not be "kept" which allows the lowest place finishing team from the prior year a chance to rebuild and get the Adrian Peterson type player.