Master Shake
Footballguy
I have the pleasue to be in a 5 year keeper league that has ended prematurely. Several other FBG's are in this league, feel free to jump in here If I have left out any important details. The question at hand is what to do with the prize money currently between $3,000 & $4,000 the options are....
main ones:
1) refund all eligible (paid) teams
2) split the pot between the 4 teams in the running
a) evenly or b) decending percentage accorind to record of 4 teams.
additional proposals
3) payout top 3 teams, gold silver bronze fashion
4) take all funds and have a minnesota vikings style draft party next year.
Details of the league specifics are listed below (LONG) .
The format of the league is a 12 team, keep 3, money league, winner take all format. meaning that the only payouts are: 1) $10 to the weekly winner and 2) the guy with the best record at the end of 5 years takes the entire pot.
This is the second set of 5 years for this league. this first 5 years went off beautifully, highly competitive, owner involvement was higher than any other league I have ever been in, trades out the wazoo, generally a "fun" league to be in. The winner of the league came down to week 17 year 5, with more than half the league "in it" with 4-5 weeks to go in year 5.
For this series of 5 years we expanded from 8 to 12 teams. we lined up 11 teams no problem, and rounded up a 12th team to fill out the league. After year 1, the 12th owner bailed, leaving the best record and arguably the best team behind. paid his dues with appologies that he knew he would not be able to handle the amount of involvement expected by the remainder of the league. A search was performed and a replacement owner was found. This owner proceeded to poorly manage this team, take even less interest than the previous owner, and after leaving his team in shambles and record in near last place, quit 1 week before the year 4 draft.
We scrambled and decided to put players back in the redraft pool, and have the newly created bye week play an "Average" of all other owners scores that week for the last two years. problem solved but more to come.
Then comes week 3(yr 4), final collection notice date for late league dues. Our rules state that anyone who is not paid in full after week 3 would begin to score 0 pts until payments are made. Our commish enforced this rule to 2 delinquient teams who scores showed up with 0 pts for that week. Shortly after this, we find that one of the delinquent teams(one of the original 8), proceeds to drop all of his players and indicated that he was going to quit the leauge based upon some differences of opinion with the commissioner, claims of cheating, etc.
consequentially the league has decided that it has been compromised and should be brought to a premature end. In terms of winning the overall cumulative record, only 4 teams have a legitimate shot to win the league. the remaining teams all acknowledge and agree that teams 5-12 are already out of the running for the league championship. Admittedly, our rules were spotty at best, but there was certainly no provisions for a total league collapse. As a result, we now have 9 paid owners, 1 more owner who has made arrangements to pay, 4 teams in the running, between $3,000 & $4,000 in unallocated prize money, and no concensus on how to move forward.
right now the core group will move to a rules heavy, true dynasty format with entrance and exit requirements. but we are divided as to what to do with that big chunk of cash out there. We all have been friends for 10 ~ 15 years, and have been playing together in some form of this league for the same period of time, and sometimes money has a way of getting in the way of friendships. This is why I am soliciting some outside opinions on the matter.
Several proposals are out there right now.
main ones:
1) refund all eligible (paid) teams
2) split the pot between the 4 teams in the running
a) evenly or b) decending percentage accorind to record of 4 teams.
additional proposals
3) payout top 3 teams, gold silver bronze fashion
4) take all funds and have a minnesota vikings style draft party next year.
all input is welcomed
Thanks SHAKE
main ones:
1) refund all eligible (paid) teams
2) split the pot between the 4 teams in the running
a) evenly or b) decending percentage accorind to record of 4 teams.
additional proposals
3) payout top 3 teams, gold silver bronze fashion
4) take all funds and have a minnesota vikings style draft party next year.
Details of the league specifics are listed below (LONG) .
The format of the league is a 12 team, keep 3, money league, winner take all format. meaning that the only payouts are: 1) $10 to the weekly winner and 2) the guy with the best record at the end of 5 years takes the entire pot.
This is the second set of 5 years for this league. this first 5 years went off beautifully, highly competitive, owner involvement was higher than any other league I have ever been in, trades out the wazoo, generally a "fun" league to be in. The winner of the league came down to week 17 year 5, with more than half the league "in it" with 4-5 weeks to go in year 5.
For this series of 5 years we expanded from 8 to 12 teams. we lined up 11 teams no problem, and rounded up a 12th team to fill out the league. After year 1, the 12th owner bailed, leaving the best record and arguably the best team behind. paid his dues with appologies that he knew he would not be able to handle the amount of involvement expected by the remainder of the league. A search was performed and a replacement owner was found. This owner proceeded to poorly manage this team, take even less interest than the previous owner, and after leaving his team in shambles and record in near last place, quit 1 week before the year 4 draft.
We scrambled and decided to put players back in the redraft pool, and have the newly created bye week play an "Average" of all other owners scores that week for the last two years. problem solved but more to come.
Then comes week 3(yr 4), final collection notice date for late league dues. Our rules state that anyone who is not paid in full after week 3 would begin to score 0 pts until payments are made. Our commish enforced this rule to 2 delinquient teams who scores showed up with 0 pts for that week. Shortly after this, we find that one of the delinquent teams(one of the original 8), proceeds to drop all of his players and indicated that he was going to quit the leauge based upon some differences of opinion with the commissioner, claims of cheating, etc.
consequentially the league has decided that it has been compromised and should be brought to a premature end. In terms of winning the overall cumulative record, only 4 teams have a legitimate shot to win the league. the remaining teams all acknowledge and agree that teams 5-12 are already out of the running for the league championship. Admittedly, our rules were spotty at best, but there was certainly no provisions for a total league collapse. As a result, we now have 9 paid owners, 1 more owner who has made arrangements to pay, 4 teams in the running, between $3,000 & $4,000 in unallocated prize money, and no concensus on how to move forward.
right now the core group will move to a rules heavy, true dynasty format with entrance and exit requirements. but we are divided as to what to do with that big chunk of cash out there. We all have been friends for 10 ~ 15 years, and have been playing together in some form of this league for the same period of time, and sometimes money has a way of getting in the way of friendships. This is why I am soliciting some outside opinions on the matter.
Several proposals are out there right now.
main ones:
1) refund all eligible (paid) teams
2) split the pot between the 4 teams in the running
a) evenly or b) decending percentage accorind to record of 4 teams.
additional proposals
3) payout top 3 teams, gold silver bronze fashion
4) take all funds and have a minnesota vikings style draft party next year.
all input is welcomed
Thanks SHAKE
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