Keeper/Modified Dynasty League Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[jmble]

I'm in a ten team ppr league.  Start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/Def

I can keep as many players as I want at no penalty.  Anyone drafted in the tenth round or later (or undrafted) can be kept forever.  I have the first pick in the keeper round this year, but in order to use it I can only keep nine players.  I pick 9th and 12th.  10th team won't have a keeper pick.

I plan to keep Austin Ekeler, Ronald Jones, Kenny Golladay, AJ Brown, and DeVante Parker for sure.

Available to keep:

QB Jameis Winston

RB  Tarik Cohen, Phillip Lindsay, Alexander Mattison

TE  Tyler Higbee

Def San Francisco

Leaning towards Mattison (I just have a feeling about him) and Higbee (Potential top 10 Tight End fills a need)

QBs are scarce in this league due to rookies always seemingly falling to the keeper round.  Do I keep Winston in case Brees goes down?  Our league doesn't penalize for Interceptions.

Do I keep the consensus number one defense even though defenses are a dime a dozen?  What about Cohen and Lindsay?

Any thoughts appreciated.  I always answer as many as I can if you have questions.  

 

[Gally]

I'm in a ten team ppr league.  Start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/Def

I can keep as many players as I want at no penalty.  Anyone drafted in the tenth round or later (or undrafted) can be kept forever.  I have the first pick in the keeper round this year, but in order to use it I can only keep nine players.  I pick 9th and 12th.  10th team won't have a keeper pick.

The two bolded statements are contradictory.  I don't understand how you can keep as many players you want with no penalty but you lose the first pick in the 10th round you can only keep 9 players. 

Also, what is the "keeper" round?  You said you can keep anyone so isn't every round a keeper round?  I assume this to mean the first pick in the 10th round where you can keep forever.

How long can you keep players drafted before the 10th round?  Which players listed are keep forever and which ones are limited time frame?

 

[jmble]

The two bolded statements are contradictory.  I don't understand how you can keep as many players you want with no penalty but you lose the first pick in the 10th round you can only keep 9 players. 

Also, what is the "keeper" round?  You said you can keep anyone so isn't every round a keeper round?  I assume this to mean the first pick in the 10th round where you can keep forever.

How long can you keep players drafted before the 10th round?  Which players listed are keep forever and which ones are limited time frame?

The answer is in the part between the bold.  We can only draft 19 players.  (which is the part I inadvertently left out)  So if I keep ten players and go into the draft I will have a full roster after pick number nine.  Because of that I won't have a pick in the tenth round which is the keeper round.  

Anyone on my current list of keepers I can keep with no penalty.  I'm basically just going into the draft with that many players already on my team.  I don't have to keep nine players.  I just can't keep more than nine players if I want that round 10 keeper pick.  Sorry, I was trying to make it as clear as possible and by doing so made it less clear.  

 

[Gally]

The answer is in the part between the bold.  We can only draft 19 players.  (which is the part I inadvertently left out)  So if I keep ten players and go into the draft I will have a full roster after pick number nine.  Because of that I won't have a pick in the tenth round which is the keeper round.  

Anyone on my current list of keepers I can keep with no penalty.  I'm basically just going into the draft with that many players already on my team.  I don't have to keep nine players.  I just can't keep more than nine players if I want that round 10 keeper pick.  Sorry, I was trying to make it as clear as possible and by doing so made it less clear.  

So you can only keep players you draft in the 10th round or later?

 

[jmble]

Yes.  Let's phrase this in a different way, knowing that I can keep up to nine people and knowing that QBs are at a premium in the league.  Start QB/2RB/2WR/TE/Flex/K/Def.  1 point ppr.

Who would you keep.  You don't lose any draft picks for any keepers.  That's all the info that was probably really needed.  Thanks for responding despite my obviously inept attempt to give all the information. lol

Definitely keeping Ekeler, Jones, Golladay, AJ Brown, Parker.  Can keep up to four more.  Despite the rankings, I like Mattison.  That would leave three more.  

 

[Gally]

So really what happens is that you draft until you have 19 players on your roster.  Everyone drafts every round until they are full.  However, the only players you can keep new are players you draft it the 10th round or beyond?  That is the part that is confusing.  So if that is the case every player you keep costs you another opportunity at a new keeper for the future.  I guess the answer is will you find someone in the 19, 18, 17 etc round worth keeping over the players you have listed.  Until you find that break even point you keep adding players to keep. 

This makes it really difficult because I have no idea what level of talent is really in those 10-19th rounds.  My gut says to go ahead and keep Lindsay, Mattison, Higbee and possibly the SF Defense in addition to those listed.   They all have upside if things break right (which is really what you are usually hoping for with those late picks). 

Hopefully that makes sense.  I am not trying to be difficult.  I just am confused by the format.  I assume guys like Elliott, CMC, Saquon are all in the draft because they were originally taken before the 10th round. 

 

[jmble]

Thanks Gally.  Honestly, I understand the confusion.  I know you can't give any "scientific" answers without knowing everybody available and all that sort of thing.  I guess I was just looking for a general idea of the players I have.  

It can be a hard league to predraft in.  Most of the big names are available on top with the exception of guys like Kamara who didn't come out of college with the hype that the others did.  The first couple rounds can be relatively standard drafting, but after that a lot of guys you'd slot pretty late are already at the top of the board.  I made the mistake of trading Lamar Jackson last year predraft to move up so I could draft CMC.  It was great for last year because the Winston/CMC combo got me to the Super Bowl, but it's not much for the future.  If the draft doesn't break my way this year I could be looking at a tough year.

 

[ZWK]

I would definitely keep Higbee.

After that your next few guys seem pretty similar to each other in value, and how many of them to keep depends on who you expect to be available in rounds 10-13 of the draft.

Probably most of the best options in rd10+ will be rookies. And I think those next few guys on your roster (Lindsay, etc.) are worth borderline rd2/3 rookie picks in ordinary dynasty leagues. So I would predict where in the draft the top 25 or so rookies will run out, and hang on to enough picks so that you can keep picking until then (or at least until rd13, if you expect them to last past that).

Or you could use the more general version of this strategy and make a list of the top players that you expect to be available in rd10-13 and think about where the guys on your roster slot in (you can check dynasty rankings & adp to help get a sense of that). Then only spend those picks to keep your guys if you like your guy better than the best new guy who you think you could've drafted there.