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Kellen Winslow Motorcycle Accident (1 Viewer)

Akron Beacon Journal Article

Kellen Winslow spent part of Sunday afternoon riding his motorcycle to Canton to visit a bike superstore.

When Winslow left the store, he did a ``wheelie'' on Kirby Ave., said an off-duty police officer who was working at Harding's Park Cycle & Power Equipment.

``I looked at the guy working with me and said, `That's a million-dollar wheelie,' '' said Eric Stanbro, a police officer who works in Stark County. Stanbro asked that his specific police department not be named; his employment was verified. A policeman named Eric told the same story on WKNR on Tuesday afternoon without revealing his last name.

The Browns released no new medical information on Winslow, who remained in the Cleveland Clinic. The team had said Monday night that Winslow had internal injuries, which were stable, as well as swelling in his right knee and shoulder.

The team is concerned about the knee, because swelling can indicate a serious problem. Possible injuries won't be known until more medical exams are concluded.

Winslow, the team's first-round draft choice a year ago, was hurt when he crashed his Suzuki motorcycle Sunday night. Winslow was riding in a parking lot in Westlake, hit a curb and flipped over the bike.

Four friends were with him when he was hurt, and they told Westlake police Winslow was learning to ride the motorcycle, which he had purchased in early April.

Stanbro, who was working with another off-duty police officer at Harding's, said Winslow spent 60 to 90 minutes at the customer appreciation spring open house.

Dennis Harding, manager and part owner of Harding's, confirmed Winslow's presence, and added Winslow arrived and left on his motorcycle.

Harding said he talked briefly to Winslow to thank him for coming.

``He was nice,'' Harding said.

Stanbro, who was present for traffic control and general security, said Winslow signed several autographs and posed with several fans for pictures. Stanbro said Winslow spent most of his time shopping for motorcycle apparel.

``His group of people went to leave and we asked them not to do any burnouts or anything in the parking lot,'' Stanbro said. ``They headed east on Route 62, and (Winslow) was the last one in their group. As they pulled out he popped a wheelie.

``It was a small one. Then he hit the throttle and went up a little higher. He held it for about 100 feet.

``He sat down and off they went.''

Stanbro said he guessed Winslow was going at ``a very high rate of speed'' when he did the wheelie (a stunt in which a bike rides on its back wheel only).

``He gunned it,'' Stanbro said. ``He was going real fast. I'd estimate between 40 and 50 miles per hour.''

Stanbro was doing a best guess on the speed and distance of the wheelie.

``It appeared to us he was riding with a bunch of very experienced riders,'' Stanbro said. ``The way they were dressed, their bikes. His bike had a 30-day tag on. He looked a little uncertain. He had his helmet on.

``Two of their guys were doing wheelies when they got to the event.''

Stanbro called the wheelie ``a very dangerous move.''

``I don't believe he's that experienced a rider and very experienced riders wreck all the time on those,'' Stanbro said.

Lt. Ray Arcuri of the Westlake Police Department said Winslow's friends described Winslow as a ``novice rider.''

Told that Winslow apparently had ridden the bike from his home in Westlake to Canton, Arcuri said, ``We want to find out exactly what went on.''

Arcuri said the only charge Winslow faces would be reckless operation or failure to maintain reasonable control of a vehicle, both traffic tickets. He said the Westlake police are looking into whether Winslow had a valid license to drive the motorcycle.
 
If he can't play this year due to injury, I se no reason not to cut him and take back all of the $$.

 
If he can't play this year due to injury, I se no reason not to cut him and take back all of the $$.
That's crazy talk.The kid is only 21. Even if he is out he still has a lot of years ahead of him.

The only way to compound the problem is to cut him and let him go somehwere else, turn things around and become a stud.

 
No license to operate motorcycle, photos of donuts in the parking lot, you can clearly see he was going way to fast, lot looked wet from reain.Idiot.

 
No license to operate motorcycle, photos of donuts in the parking lot, you can clearly see he was going way to fast, lot looked wet from reain.

Idiot.
He had a learners permit which allowed him to operate a motorcycle.Link, posted for the second time

Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was riding a motorcycle that is too powerful for a beginner, law enforcement officials say, but he did recently obtain a permit to ride it.
 
No license to operate motorcycle, photos of donuts in the parking lot, you can clearly see he was going way to fast, lot looked wet from reain.

Idiot.
He had a learners permit which allowed him to operate a motorcycle.Link, posted for the second time

Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was riding a motorcycle that is too powerful for a beginner, law enforcement officials say, but he did recently obtain a permit to ride it.
Then that clears it all up. He's a saint!
 
No license to operate motorcycle, photos of donuts in the parking lot, you can clearly see he was going way to fast, lot looked wet from reain.

Idiot.
He had a learners permit which allowed him to operate a motorcycle.Link, posted for the second time

Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was riding a motorcycle that is too powerful for a beginner, law enforcement officials say, but he did recently obtain a permit to ride it.
3rd video down of vidoe of surveilance cameras right before accidentThis video link says that Police said ther was no motorcycle endorsement on his license.

 
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Akron Beacon Journal Article

Kellen Winslow spent part of Sunday afternoon riding his motorcycle to Canton to visit a bike superstore.

When Winslow left the store, he did a ``wheelie'' on Kirby Ave., said an off-duty police officer who was working at Harding's Park Cycle & Power Equipment.

``I looked at the guy working with me and said, `That's a million-dollar wheelie,' '' said Eric Stanbro, a police officer who works in Stark County. Stanbro asked that his specific police department not be named; his employment was verified. A policeman named Eric told the same story on WKNR on Tuesday afternoon without revealing his last name.

The Browns released no new medical information on Winslow, who remained in the Cleveland Clinic. The team had said Monday night that Winslow had internal injuries, which were stable, as well as swelling in his right knee and shoulder.

The team is concerned about the knee, because swelling can indicate a serious problem. Possible injuries won't be known until more medical exams are concluded.

Winslow, the team's first-round draft choice a year ago, was hurt when he crashed his Suzuki motorcycle Sunday night. Winslow was riding in a parking lot in Westlake, hit a curb and flipped over the bike.

Four friends were with him when he was hurt, and they told Westlake police Winslow was learning to ride the motorcycle, which he had purchased in early April.

Stanbro, who was working with another off-duty police officer at Harding's, said Winslow spent 60 to 90 minutes at the customer appreciation spring open house.

Dennis Harding, manager and part owner of Harding's, confirmed Winslow's presence, and added Winslow arrived and left on his motorcycle.

Harding said he talked briefly to Winslow to thank him for coming.

``He was nice,'' Harding said.

Stanbro, who was present for traffic control and general security, said Winslow signed several autographs and posed with several fans for pictures. Stanbro said Winslow spent most of his time shopping for motorcycle apparel.

``His group of people went to leave and we asked them not to do any burnouts or anything in the parking lot,'' Stanbro said. ``They headed east on Route 62, and (Winslow) was the last one in their group. As they pulled out he popped a wheelie.

``It was a small one. Then he hit the throttle and went up a little higher. He held it for about 100 feet.

``He sat down and off they went.''

Stanbro said he guessed Winslow was going at ``a very high rate of speed'' when he did the wheelie (a stunt in which a bike rides on its back wheel only).

``He gunned it,'' Stanbro said. ``He was going real fast. I'd estimate between 40 and 50 miles per hour.''

Stanbro was doing a best guess on the speed and distance of the wheelie.

``It appeared to us he was riding with a bunch of very experienced riders,'' Stanbro said. ``The way they were dressed, their bikes. His bike had a 30-day tag on. He looked a little uncertain. He had his helmet on.

``Two of their guys were doing wheelies when they got to the event.''

Stanbro called the wheelie ``a very dangerous move.''

``I don't believe he's that experienced a rider and very experienced riders wreck all the time on those,'' Stanbro said.

Lt. Ray Arcuri of the Westlake Police Department said Winslow's friends described Winslow as a ``novice rider.''

Told that Winslow apparently had ridden the bike from his home in Westlake to Canton, Arcuri said, ``We want to find out exactly what went on.''

Arcuri said the only charge Winslow faces would be reckless operation or failure to maintain reasonable control of a vehicle, both traffic tickets. He said the Westlake police are looking into whether Winslow had a valid license to drive the motorcycle.
In biker lingo, SQUID! :yucky: Couldn't suffer thru drivin' ultra expensive convertibles or street rods... wonder if his buddies will take up a collection for him! :lmao:

Sucks that you can buy a bike without even showin' a license. Sounds like he had experience, probably on a dirt bike.

 
3rd video down of vidoe of surveilance cameras right before accident

This video link says that Police said ther was no motorcycle endorsement on his license.
Yes, it does say there was no motorcycle endorsement on his regular license. But in the link I provided (It's an article from today, which I believe is a later link than the video from TV news last night), the police say this:
Lt. Judy Neel of the Ohio State Highway Patrol said Tuesday that Winslow obtained a motorcycle learner's permit April 26th at the East 55th Street Driver Examination Station. He passed a written test and vision exam to get the permit, Neel said.
I'm not familiar with Ohio licenses, but perhaps they're talking about 2 separate documents ---- a drivers license which may have a motorcycle endorsement, and a learners permit for a motorcycle ---- either of which would have allowed him to drive a motorcycle.
 
If that's the case they should get their money back and cut their losses.It sends a message to the team that no matter how much you make, if you don't stay on the straight and narrow, you're history.He won't be 'right' until 2006. Two years of nothing.Cut him STAT!'Soldier' my ####. He'll never live that tantrum down...

 
If that's the case they should get their money back and cut their losses.

It sends a message to the team that no matter how much you make, if you don't stay on the straight and narrow, you're history.

He won't be 'right' until 2006. Two years of nothing.

Cut him STAT!

'Soldier' my ####. He'll never live that tantrum down...
Uh, we still don't know what if any damage has been done to the right knee or right shoulder yet.
 
If that's the case they should get their money back and cut their losses.

It sends a message to the team that no matter how much you make, if you don't stay on the straight and narrow, you're history.

He won't be 'right' until 2006.  Two years of nothing.

Cut him STAT!

'Soldier' my ####.  He'll never live that tantrum down...
Uh, we still don't know what if any damage has been done to the right knee or right shoulder yet.
If his knee is injured, if his shoulder is injured, if he's going to miss 8 games... CUT HIM.
 
His agents are scheduled to be in Cleveland today.

Link

Agents Kevin and Carl Poston, who represented Winslow in contract talks with the team, were scheduled to arrive in Cleveland today to visit with Winslow and possibly team officials, according to a woman who answered the telephone at Carl Poston's office in Houston.
I smell another Bangahahahahahaha cartoon :hophead:
:popcorn:
 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it. Sure, Bobby Beatherd deserves his share of shame for giving up a KR, LB and 2(?) #1 picks to trade up 1 spot with a team who just signed their own QB to a record bonus and desperately needed a pass rusher and was GOING to take Wadsworth anyways.. Beatherd aside, I'll take no production and the return of $5-10 million over a jackass that nosedived the whole team into the crapper that they just got out of last year.At least KII disintefrated off the field instead of on it.

Leaf is a MUCH bigger bust, hands down.

 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it.
The traded a SECOND ROUND PICK to move up ONE SPOT to get him when the Lions had NO intention of taking him.Butch Davis = :own3d: by the Lions.

 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it.
The traded a SECOND ROUND PICK to move up ONE SPOT to get him when the Lions had NO intention of taking him.Butch Davis = :own3d: by the Lions.
Ohhhhh, that's right. My apologies. Still a pittance when compared to the cost of Leaf though. And still planty enough to keep Leaf firmly entrenched as Biggest Bust.
 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it. Sure, Bobby Beatherd deserves his share of shame for giving up a KR, LB and 2(?) #1 picks to trade up 1 spot with a team who just signed their own QB to a record bonus and desperately needed a pass rusher and was GOING to take Wadsworth anyways.. Beatherd aside, I'll take no production and the return of $5-10 million over a jackass that nosedived the whole team into the crapper that they just got out of last year.At least KII disintefrated off the field instead of on it.

Leaf is a MUCH bigger bust, hands down.
I remember when Leaf got all pissed off when a fan told him he made Heath Shuler look like a Hall of Famer... Now that is some classic ####.
 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it. Sure, Bobby Beatherd deserves his share of shame for giving up a KR, LB and 2(?) #1 picks to trade up 1 spot with a team who just signed their own QB to a record bonus and desperately needed a pass rusher and was GOING to take Wadsworth anyways.. Beatherd aside, I'll take no production and the return of $5-10 million over a jackass that nosedived the whole team into the crapper that they just got out of last year.At least KII disintefrated off the field instead of on it.

Leaf is a MUCH bigger bust, hands down.
Uh, Cleveland did trade up for KWII. They basically gave up Roy Williams + a second rounder for KWII.
 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it. Sure, Bobby Beatherd deserves his share of shame for giving up a KR, LB and 2(?) #1 picks to trade up 1 spot with a team who just signed their own QB to a record bonus and desperately needed a pass rusher and was GOING to take Wadsworth anyways.. Beatherd aside, I'll take no production and the return of $5-10 million over a jackass that nosedived the whole team into the crapper that they just got out of last year.At least KII disintefrated off the field instead of on it.

Leaf is a MUCH bigger bust, hands down.
Uh, Cleveland did trade up for KWII. They basically gave up Roy Williams + a second rounder for KWII.
Uh, thanks for the second, uh, correction. Someoneuhelse beat you, uh, to it. But, uh, as I said, uh, earlier, uh, the price of Leaf was still, uh, way higher than the cost of KWII. Uh. But thanks, uh, for correcting my, uh, mistake also. Uh.
 
If this is all true then where does this place Winslow on the "All Busts List" for 1st round draft picks?
I've been thinking about this as well and think it might put him over the top above Leaf.
Not a chance. Leaf is an exponential factor above KII, even if the wounded soldier never plays again. San Diego would have been ecstatic with Leaf if he never played, compared to how BAD he was on the field. KII looks like he might make the top 5. But the Cryin Ryan experiment not only was a player bust, the entire team spiraled downhill as a result of the trade with AZ to move up 1 spot to take him. At least CLE didn't give up anything to take him, they earned their #9 spot and didn't overpay for it. Sure, Bobby Beatherd deserves his share of shame for giving up a KR, LB and 2(?) #1 picks to trade up 1 spot with a team who just signed their own QB to a record bonus and desperately needed a pass rusher and was GOING to take Wadsworth anyways.. Beatherd aside, I'll take no production and the return of $5-10 million over a jackass that nosedived the whole team into the crapper that they just got out of last year.At least KII disintefrated off the field instead of on it.

Leaf is a MUCH bigger bust, hands down.
Uh, Cleveland did trade up for KWII. They basically gave up Roy Williams + a second rounder for KWII.
Uh, thanks for the second, uh, correction. Someoneuhelse beat you, uh, to it. But, uh, as I said, uh, earlier, uh, the price of Leaf was still, uh, way higher than the cost of KWII. Uh. But thanks, uh, for correcting my, uh, mistake also. Uh.
:rolleyes:
 
If that's the case they should get their money back and cut their losses.

It sends a message to the team that no matter how much you make, if you don't stay on the straight and narrow, you're history.

He won't be 'right' until 2006.  Two years of nothing.

Cut him STAT!

'Soldier' my ####.  He'll never live that tantrum down...
Uh, we still don't know what if any damage has been done to the right knee or right shoulder yet.
If his knee is injured, if his shoulder is injured, if he's going to miss 8 games... CUT HIM.
Cut him? :no: What sense does that make?

 

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