Kevin Curtis (1 Viewer)

[Tornacl]

I know the guy's not going to be the #1 WR on his team, but why is everyone so down on him this year? Last year, he was one of the popular sleeper picks, and in my PPR league, he finished as the #25 WR. So I'm curious as to why all of the rankings have him so low (#46 WR in Dynasty and #53 in Re-draft).

He had some inconsistent weeks, but with Jaimie Martin and Ryan Fitzpatrick playing significant time at QB, why should that surprise anyone?

Yes, Martz is gone, but I don't see that having a huge impact on Curtis.

I see him finishing in the range of the #30 WR, but his ADP is around #40 WR, so I think he presents some value.

Just curious as to what the other sharks think.

 

[MLBrandow]

People aren't sure if either Bruce or Curtis will be the #2 WR this year.

I think it's Curtis, and have been drafting him as such. Either way, between Curtis and Bruce, one of them has mega value.

Some good analysis here:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...hl=kevin+curtis

 

[David Yudkin]

At $5 million a season, Bruce is the starter and Curtis is the WR3. Unless Holt or Bruce gets hurt, Curtis will not see much time or much production.

 

[fruity pebbles]

The Martz offense is gone and Bruce is the #2. Curtis went back to the bench last year after Bruce came back from injury. Don't see any reason why Bruce wouldn't be in the starting lineup.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

This reminds me of the hype from last year.

Curtis isn't the player Bruce is. When Bruce is healthy, he'll be #2. How much value should a #3 receiver have?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

At $5 million a season, Bruce is the starter and Curtis is the WR3. Unless Holt or Bruce gets hurt, Curtis will not see much time or much production.

look at the money the rams gave bruce and the money the rams gave curtis, and you will have your answer. He's Brandon Stokley playing in a less potent pass offense, and with an uncertain future (only signed 1 year deal)

 

[packersfan]

I know the guy's not going to be the #1 WR on his team, but why is everyone so down on him this year?

Simple for me really: Bruce is still there and as we saw in the second half of last season, Curtis was pretty much worthless as the No. 3 WR. Combine that with a more balanced approached offensively and that lowers Curtis' value even more. I like him and believe he's talented and if Bruce gets hurt I think he'll be a strong option. But I don't like to reach for guys based on the hope that the player ahead of them gets hurt. If I can get Curtis in the later rounds and I already have strong WR depth I'll go after him.

 

[ceo3west]

I know the guy's not going to be the #1 WR on his team, but why is everyone so down on him this year? Last year, he was one of the popular sleeper picks, and in my PPR league, he finished as the #25 WR. So I'm curious as to why all of the rankings have him so low (#46 WR in Dynasty and #53 in Re-draft).

He had some inconsistent weeks, but with Jaimie Martin and Ryan Fitzpatrick playing significant time at QB, why should that surprise anyone?

Yes, Martz is gone, but I don't see that having a huge impact on Curtis.

I see him finishing in the range of the #30 WR, but his ADP is around #40 WR, so I think he presents some value.

Just curious as to what the other sharks think.

I am worried anout the shift in offensive philosophy here - I beleive the running game WILL be the focus of the offense this year. This doesn't bode well for Curtis, especially when there are two other guys ahead of him. Remember, it took a Bruce injury last year for him to thrive. I dont want to have to rely on an injury for my #4 WR to get significant playing time.

 

[Lauryn]

my biggest concern with curtis is if he will be on the field as much as last year. i'm sure linehan uses the TEs more than martz (he would almost have to by default), and they addressed the position in the draft. curtis is pretty good when on the field, but his playing time is in question.

 

[AB in DC]

in the second half of last seasonafter Bulger was injured, Curtis was pretty much worthless as the No. 3 WR.

Fixed.6 games with Bulger and Bruce playing:

30/353/3

5 games with Bulger but without Bruce:

20/388/3 (plus a rushing TD)

5 games without Bulger:

10/60/0

 

[Tick]

I'm down on him. He's a WR3 and we don't know what his offensive system will look like (except that it won't be as pass-crazy as it used to be). That's not a good setup in my eyes.

 

[Armando]

Bruce is #2 and Curtis will depart STL after 2006.

 

[packersfan]

in the second half of last seasonafter Bulger was injured, Curtis was pretty much worthless as the No. 3 WR.

Fixed.6 games with Bulger and Bruce playing:

30/353/3

5 games with Bulger but without Bruce:

20/388/3 (plus a rushing TD)

5 games without Bulger:

10/60/0

I don't deny that losing Bulger was a killer for Curtis and the entire Rams' offense. But that doesn't change the fact that after Bruce returned to the starting lineup, Curtis did not have a single game with more than 2 receptions and he caught only 1 TD in his last six games and was held under 20 yards receiving in every one of those games except one. I picked Curtis up after Bruce got hurt last year and he was gold for me. But once Bruce came back and regained his starting job I dumped Curtis and never lost a second of sleep over that decision because of how poor his production was.

 

[gocats]

At $5 million a season, Bruce is the starter and Curtis is the WR3. Unless Holt or Bruce gets hurt, Curtis will not see much time or much production.

 

[AB in DC]

I don't deny that losing Bulger was a killer for Curtis and the entire Rams' offense. But that doesn't change the fact that after Bruce returned to the starting lineup, Curtis did not have a single game with more than 2 receptions and he caught only 1 TD in his last six games and was held under 20 yards receiving in every one of those games except one.

Which is a direct result of Fitzpatrick/Martin chucking the ball, not of Isaac Bruce.Curtis did fine in weeks 1, 2, and 11 when Bruce was very active, and when Bruce started but was less involved in weeks 3 and 10. He only became a non-factor in week 12 when Fitzpatrick took over.

 

[Jason Wood]

Think back to Brandon Stokley last year...he was being drafted ahead of a lot of WR2s because of the success he had the prior year. Yet anyone that looked at things logically understood that Manning's season was not only one-of-a-kind, but that he wouldn't likely come close to matching it in 2005.

This year, Curtis is the WR3 until proven otherwise. You don't win many fantasy titles in 10- and 12-team redrafts by paying anything more than a late round pick on a WR3.

To be fair, Curtis has upside but if and only if he gets into the starting lineup. He was close when the Rams waived Isaac Bruce, but then he re-signed for another three years. If Curtis can't beat Bruce out for WR2 in camp, he shouldn't be viewed as a big fantasy asset.

Linehan isn't going to use a ton of 3- and 4-WR sets like Martz did. That's one of the reasons he drafted two rookie TEs so early in the draft; because he's a fan of more traditional pro sets.

Now, one caveat. IF Bruce or Holt get hurt, OR Curtis beats Bruce out with a great camp; then he's got great value. Unfortunately, his ADP is assuredly going to skyrocket in that situation and self adjust.

 

[Buckna]

Think back to Brandon Stokley last year...he was being drafted ahead of a lot of WR2s because of the success he had the prior year. Yet anyone that looked at things logically understood that Manning's season was not only one-of-a-kind, but that he wouldn't likely come close to matching it in 2005.

This year, Curtis is the WR3 until proven otherwise. You don't win many fantasy titles in 10- and 12-team redrafts by paying anything more than a late round pick on a WR3.

To be fair, Curtis has upside but if and only if he gets into the starting lineup. He was close when the Rams waived Isaac Bruce, but then he re-signed for another three years. If Curtis can't beat Bruce out for WR2 in camp, he shouldn't be viewed as a big fantasy asset.

Linehan isn't going to use a ton of 3- and 4-WR sets like Martz did. That's one of the reasons he drafted two rookie TEs so early in the draft; because he's a fan of more traditional pro sets.

Now, one caveat. IF Bruce or Holt get hurt, OR Curtis beats Bruce out with a great camp; then he's got great value. Unfortunately, his ADP is assuredly going to skyrocket in that situation and self adjust.

Good point. I was going to make one similar using an example from the same team, ala Ricky Proehl circa 2002 season.

 

[Tick]

Good point. I was going to make one similar using an example from the same team, ala Ricky Proehl circa 2002 season.

And Az Hakim, and Dane Looker - Rams WR3s always get overvalued.

 

[MLBrandow]

I don't deny that losing Bulger was a killer for Curtis and the entire Rams' offense. But that doesn't change the fact that after Bruce returned to the starting lineup, Curtis did not have a single game with more than 2 receptions and he caught only 1 TD in his last six games and was held under 20 yards receiving in every one of those games except one.

Which is a direct result of Fitzpatrick/Martin chucking the ball, not of Isaac Bruce.Curtis did fine in weeks 1, 2, and 11 when Bruce was very active, and when Bruce started but was less involved in weeks 3 and 10. He only became a non-factor in week 12 when Fitzpatrick took over.

 

[FFFIEND]

I hope Curtis is the guy. I have him in a Yahoo league. I don't have to start him, but I would like him to do well. Go Rams

 

[Tornacl]

Those were all some good points, thanks.

I also believe that Curtis was hurt more by who was throwing him the ball than by Bruce's return, but I hadn't thought as much about the 2TE sets that they may use this year.

As I have him in a Dynasty league, I'd like him to do well this year, then sign next year as a FA.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Bruce is #2 and Curtis will depart STL after 2006.

He could end up in Detroit, back with Martz. If Mike Williams doesn't improve this year, it could very well happen.I don't think he will do much this season, unless Bruce or Holt get injured.