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[Chunky Soup]

May 22, 2007, 17:14

Lions :: RB

RB K. Jones Has Pins Removed

Nicholas J. Cotsonika, Detroit Free Press - [Full Article]

Detroit Lions RB Kevin Jones has had two of the three pins removed from his surgically repaired left foot. “That one stays in,” Jones said. “It’s not anywhere where it’s going to affect me from flexing it at all.” Jones said he was still on target to return for training camp. He has been running gassers at half speed, as well as riding a stationary bike and working in the weight room. “The best thing for running and getting in shape is running,” Jones said. “I’ll be a little bit behind, but it won’t take me too long.”

 

[Chunky Soup]

The dude continues to make great news. I was fearing a Domanick Davis type offseason with conflicting reports and no straightforward answers but this seems to be the complete opposite.

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

 

[beergut]

I own Jones in a dynasty and I'm going to be very cautious about getting my hopes up.

 

[Bob Henry]

Jones has been a huge value in drafts so far this year because of the uncertainty of his injury and status for this year.. providing, of course, that he is "healthy" for training camp and the start of the season.

Everything I hear out of Allen Park is good.. I think Jones could once again be a difference maker for those brave enough to draft him, though I am still unconvinced that he can stay on the field for 16 games because of his willingness to deliver and take big hits. The dude packs a wallop and that, unfortunately, hurts his ability to remain on the field.

 

[Rev]

Jones has been a huge value in drafts so far this year because of the uncertainty of his injury and status for this year.. providing, of course, that he is "healthy" for training camp and the start of the season.Everything I hear out of Allen Park is good.. I think Jones could once again be a difference maker for those brave enough to draft him, though I am still unconvinced that he can stay on the field for 16 games because of his willingness to deliver and take big hits. The dude packs a wallop and that, unfortunately, hurts his ability to remain on the field.

I'm not sure that the Lions can affort to use him as a bruiser anymore. He'll get less goaline carries and short yardage plays (hello Duckett), but he showed huge promise as a reciever. I was shocked that he scored so many points last season with so few rushing yards. If Jones is healthy, I see no room for another fragile pass-catching RB (Bell) on this team.

 

[steelcityman]

I have Jones in a 3 year keep league(we are entering year 2) and I have no plans of keeping him. I am pretty sure I can get Adrian Peterson instead. Even if Jones is back and splitting time with Bell, with those 3 WRs, how many TDs and yards can he get, 5 and 600? Hardly a keeper stat line IMO.

 

[Killerclown]

600 Yards receiving ? Because 600 Yards rushing seems like a very low estimate.

 

[Chunky Soup]

600 Yards receiving ? Because 600 Yards rushing seems like a very low estimate.

 

[fsufan]

I own Jones in a dynasty and I'm going to be very cautious about getting my hopes up.

he is my #2 RB and I do not feel good about him untill I see him play. So I traded for Portis as my #2

 

[Reservoir Dog]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

Jones 75%Bell 10%Duckett 15%

 

[SDJohnny]

per fbg email.

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_displ...d=457578#070530

WEDNESDAY, MAY 30

Jones Continues Treatment; has Advanced to Running on the Football Field

With just under four weeks remaining in the Detroit Lions offseason program, running back Kevin Jones is continuing to progress.

Jones is in the middle of his second week of running on the football field. He is not yet wearing spikes, but is able to change direction and do some cutting.

Jones: “I’m doing some in-and-out weaving. I guess you could call it pivoting. A little cutting. Not anything too strenuous.

“As it feels better each week I’ll just be doing more. I don’t know how much more we’ll be doing. I just know that as it feels better I’ll be running a little more, cutting a little more, until I’m back all the way.”

Jones is still aiming to return in time for training camp, but if he isn’t 100-percent by that point he isn’t going to be entirely disappointed. His main goal is to be back in time to get himself into football and running shape for the start of the regular season.

Jones on if it’s tough to not be able to participate: “Some days are better than others. Not being able to do what I do for a living … it is kind of hard to watch somebody else do it. But I’m not really worried. I get kind of worried some days when it’s not feeling good but then I get more encouraged when it is. So I’m just trying to keep the faith and I feel like everything will be okay.”

 

[Routilla]

I will pass on all DET RBs.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

Jones 75%Bell 10%Duckett 15%

Kevin Jones owner here Jones has been so up and down in his career that I am unsure if Bell would beat him outright for the job. Add in the injury and Bell has more speed and receiving skills....not looking good for Jones.

 

[Garts]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

Jones 75%Bell 10%Duckett 15%

Kevin Jones owner here Jones has been so up and down in his career that I am unsure if Bell would beat him outright for the job. Add in the injury and Bell has more speed and receiving skills....not looking good for Jones.

Bell has stone hands at best...he can't catch a cold.Didn't KJ have quite a few catches last year??

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

 

[DenverBroncos]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

 

[lions327]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

Jones 75%Bell 10%Duckett 15%

Kevin Jones owner here Jones has been so up and down in his career that I am unsure if Bell would beat him outright for the job. Add in the injury and Bell has more speed and receiving skills....not looking good for Jones.

Jones is the unquestioned starter once he is healthy. He is a far better RB than Bell, a better receiver, better blocker, tougher, and just a plain better all around player. Bell's receiving skills aren't even close. The only thing he has better than KJ is more speed...but that alone doesn't make him better. Martz loves Jones too. Bell is nothing but a backup and change of pace RB here.

 

[turkishkamel]

I wonder if both healthy, what type of split TBell and KJones will have.

KJ 65% to TB 35% (COP+)Duckett will probably get some GL work, imo.

Jones 75%Bell 10%Duckett 15%

Kevin Jones owner here Jones has been so up and down in his career that I am unsure if Bell would beat him outright for the job. Add in the injury and Bell has more speed and receiving skills....not looking good for Jones.

Bell has stone hands at best...he can't catch a cold.Didn't KJ have quite a few catches last year??

61 in 14 games (actually closer to 11 games). KJ may be prone to injury as a result of his style of play. but when healthy Tatum Bell is zero threat to take KJs job. Duckett will definately steal some goal line time, but a healthy KJ will catch all the balls out of the backfield and lead the team in rushing. i'd sayKJ 60% (with 90% of the backfield receptions)Bell 25%Duckett 15% (incuding most of the goal line work)I still see KJ as a real value (esp. in PPR leagues)

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

 

[duaneok66]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

 

[turkishkamel]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

 

[turkishkamel]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

 

[duaneok66]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

you only need insurance when you have iffy merchandise . . .

 

[turkishkamel]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

you only need insurance when you have iffy merchandise . . .

its the nfl, everyone needs insurance.

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

 

[duaneok66]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

you only need insurance when you have iffy merchandise . . .

its the nfl, everyone needs insurance.

especially teams with banged up RBs . . .

 

[lions327]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

If you would have seen Arlen Harris and Aveion Cason run last season, you would know. It's called depth, plus protection in case Jones misses time early in the season. Everything I have heard around here says he has a great chance to be ready for the start of the season. If he is healthy, Bell and Duckett will not play more than 25-30% of the time combined. Martz loves Jones' toughness and receiving ability. He would have been ranked in the top 10 if not for this injury. He will be the best value pick overall this year.

 

[duaneok66]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

If you would have seen Arlen Harris and Aveion Cason run last season, you would know. It's called depth, plus protection in case Jones misses time early in the season. Everything I have heard around here says he has a great chance to be ready for the start of the season. If he is healthy, Bell and Duckett will not play more than 25-35% of the time combined. Martz loves Jones' toughness and receiving ability. He would have been ranked in the top 10 if not for this injury. He will be the best value pick overall this year.

I did see them run . . . they stink, what else is new?? The fact remains is that they traded for Bell because Jones is not a lock to be healthy . . .

 

[lions327]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

 

[lions327]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

you only need insurance when you have iffy merchandise . . .

its the nfl, everyone needs insurance.

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

and if he was so good, why do they CONTINUE to bring in runners . . . a third roun pick for Calhoun, a trade for Bell, and the acquisition of Duckett . . . yeah, Jones is gold . . .

 

[duaneok66]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

bell was insurance. draft picks and george foster will prove to be the more valuable parts of that deal.

you only need insurance when you have iffy merchandise . . .

its the nfl, everyone needs insurance.

sure . . . so why did the Colts stand pat after Rhodes left?? Why didn't NE acquire a back (before the 7th) after Dillon retired?? Why didn't Seattle get another back (besides Morris) since Alexander was banged up??? Where is the insurance for injury prone Gore in SF????etc. etc. etc.

 

[esalmons30]

Why would Millen bother to trade for Bell and acquire Duckett if Jones was expected to stay healthy??

We our talking about Matt Millen!LoL...... I was born in Michigan and have been stuck with this crap franchise since birth!

 

[lions327]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

He is a very good pass blocker. He runs tough inside. he doesn't try to bounce everything outside. I don't know what you watched last year, but it wasn't Kevin Jones. The plays he didn't do well in short yardage was more a result of the Lions having one of the worst interior lines in the NFL last year, and half the time he ran short yardage, he was tackled behind the line, before he could make a move. He has GREAT hands, he caught 61 passes last year. He played in all situations. I don't care what he did in 2005 in Mariucci's offense. 2005 doesn't matter one bit. Martz is here now and Jones played at a high level last year. Questioning his toughness is ridiculous, he is one of the toughest RB's in the league. He runs HARD and is not afraid to put his shoulder down for the extra yard.

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

He is a very good pass blocker. He runs tough inside. he doesn't try to bounce everything outside. I don't know what you watched last year, but it wasn't Kevin Jones. The plays he didn't do well in short yardage was more a result of the Lions having one of the worst interior lines in the NFL last year, and half the time he ran short yardage, he was tackled behind the line, before he could make a move. He has GREAT hands, he caught 61 passes last year. He played in all situations. I don't care what he did in 2005 in Mariucci's offense. 2005 doesn't matter one bit. Martz is here now and Jones played at a high level last year. Questioning his toughness is ridiculous, he is one of the toughest RB's in the league. He runs HARD and is not afraid to put his shoulder down for the extra yard.

it's always the lines fault . . . it's never the RB's indecisiveness before hitting the hole . . . of course, he was a 1st round pick, so you have to make excuses for him . . .

 

[duaneok66]

as far as fantasy goes, Jones got a lot of checkdowns when Kitna couldnt throw downfield . . . with Johnson's emergence, you will see more downfield throwing (assuming Jones can block, which he can't) . . .

KJ's FF numbers will decrease in 2007 without question . . . and that's assuming he even starts the season . . .

 

[lions327]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

He is a very good pass blocker. He runs tough inside. he doesn't try to bounce everything outside. I don't know what you watched last year, but it wasn't Kevin Jones. The plays he didn't do well in short yardage was more a result of the Lions having one of the worst interior lines in the NFL last year, and half the time he ran short yardage, he was tackled behind the line, before he could make a move. He has GREAT hands, he caught 61 passes last year. He played in all situations. I don't care what he did in 2005 in Mariucci's offense. 2005 doesn't matter one bit. Martz is here now and Jones played at a high level last year. Questioning his toughness is ridiculous, he is one of the toughest RB's in the league. He runs HARD and is not afraid to put his shoulder down for the extra yard.

it's always the lines fault . . . it's never the RB's indecisiveness before hitting the hole . . . of course, he was a 1st round pick, so you have to make excuses for him . . .

I watched all 16 Lions games last year. I am not making excuses for him. I don't care where they drafted him. He never had a chance to hit the holes in short yardage because the defense was in the backfield and all over him by the time he got the ball. The Lions had the worst offensive line in the NFL, or close to it. My opinions come from watching all 16 of their games last year.

 

[billymays]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/sc...jones9pi1hd.gif

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

you are conveniently leaving out the numerous times he headed DIRECTLY to the outside before turning upfield . . . he did that often EVEN AT THE GOALLINE . . . funny stuff . . .

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

He is a very good pass blocker. He runs tough inside. he doesn't try to bounce everything outside. I don't know what you watched last year, but it wasn't Kevin Jones. The plays he didn't do well in short yardage was more a result of the Lions having one of the worst interior lines in the NFL last year, and half the time he ran short yardage, he was tackled behind the line, before he could make a move. He has GREAT hands, he caught 61 passes last year. He played in all situations. I don't care what he did in 2005 in Mariucci's offense. 2005 doesn't matter one bit. Martz is here now and Jones played at a high level last year. Questioning his toughness is ridiculous, he is one of the toughest RB's in the league. He runs HARD and is not afraid to put his shoulder down for the extra yard.

it's always the lines fault . . . it's never the RB's indecisiveness before hitting the hole . . . of course, he was a 1st round pick, so you have to make excuses for him . . .

I watched all 16 Lions games last year. I am not making excuses for him. I don't care where they drafted him. He never had a chance to hit the holes in short yardage because the defense was in the backfield and all over him by the time he got the ball. The Lions had the worst offensive line in the NFL, or close to it. My opinions come from watching all 16 of their games last year.

 

[lions327]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/sc...jones9pi1hd.gif

Damn...my favorite play from the entire season.

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

He is a very good pass blocker. He runs tough inside. he doesn't try to bounce everything outside. I don't know what you watched last year, but it wasn't Kevin Jones. The plays he didn't do well in short yardage was more a result of the Lions having one of the worst interior lines in the NFL last year, and half the time he ran short yardage, he was tackled behind the line, before he could make a move. He has GREAT hands, he caught 61 passes last year. He played in all situations. I don't care what he did in 2005 in Mariucci's offense. 2005 doesn't matter one bit. Martz is here now and Jones played at a high level last year. Questioning his toughness is ridiculous, he is one of the toughest RB's in the league. He runs HARD and is not afraid to put his shoulder down for the extra yard.

it's always the lines fault . . . it's never the RB's indecisiveness before hitting the hole . . . of course, he was a 1st round pick, so you have to make excuses for him . . .

I watched all 16 Lions games last year. I am not making excuses for him. I don't care where they drafted him. He never had a chance to hit the holes in short yardage because the defense was in the backfield and all over him by the time he got the ball. The Lions had the worst offensive line in the NFL, or close to it. My opinions come from watching all 16 of their games last year.

you are conveniently leaving out the numerous times he headed DIRECTLY to the outside before turning upfield . . . he did that often EVEN AT THE GOALLINE . . . funny stuff . . .

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/sc...jones9pi1hd.gif

Damn...my favorite play from the entire season.

one whole play?? over a LB?? how about when it's at the two or three?? . . .

 

[lions327]

Did you even watch a Lions game last season?

Watch that play closely. That defines Kevin Jones. He could have avoided contact and tried to fake out the defender, but instead he does what he usually does: put his shoulder down and initiate the contact. That is how Kevin Jones plays the game.

Questioning his toughness is crazy.

 

[billymays]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . . and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/sc...jones9pi1hd.gif

Damn...my favorite play from the entire season.

one whole play?? over a LB?? how about when it's at the two or three?? . . .

sorry ill have to do a quick search here amongst all my gif footages of RBs running directly into two def. tackles with no help from the oline, running them over, plowing the LBers back to the goalline and then hurdling all oncoming DB's.......brb.

 

[duaneok66]

Did you even watch a Lions game last season? Watch that play closely. That defines Kevin Jones. He could have avoided contact and tried to fake out the defender, but instead he does what he usually does: put his shoulder down and initiate the contact. That is how Kevin Jones plays the game.Questioning his toughness is crazy.

I have already answered that; I watched the majority of their games this year . . . you are biased as a Lions fan . . . as a Lions fan, you have to admit that Williams, Furrey and Kitna all had better years offensively . . . drives stalled because Jones couldnt run on early downs . . . his 61 catches were mostly the result of checkdowns . . . he is not that good . . .

 

[duaneok66]

Kevin Jones = mediocre RB . . .

KJ is a flat out steal this year if healthy. He averages over 4 yards per carry and has over 100 receptions in 3 years (60 of those last year) with limited games. If he can ever play a whole year, he is easily a top 10 RB.

fixed . . .

he finished as RB11 in my PPR this past year, despite not playing a full season.

good point . . . my bad, I shouldve said mediocre NFL RB . . . he is a decent fantasy option WHEN HEALTHY. . .

You obviously have not seen him play if you think he is mediocre. He has a great combination of power and speed, is a solid pass blocker, is a great receiver out of the backfield, and is tough as nails. He is a very good NFL RB and a potentially GREAT fantasy RB. I fail to see how an injury makes someone mediocre.

I have seen him play; I saw almost all the games last year . . . he is NOT a very good NFL RB . . . we are taking about real football, not fantasy numbers . . . he tries to bounce most runs outside instead of going up the middle . . . he is decent out of the backfield, he is NOT great, heck, in 2005 he didnt even play on 3rd downs (he did improve in 2006) . . . watch Jones at the goal line for proof he is not tough . . .

and you are tripping if you think he is a good blocker . . . LOL . . .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n143/sc...jones9pi1hd.gif

Damn...my favorite play from the entire season.

one whole play?? over a LB?? how about when it's at the two or three?? . . .

sorry ill have to do a quick search here amongst all my gif footages of RBs running directly into two def. tackles with no help from the oline, running them over, plowing the LBers back to the goalline and then hurdling all oncoming DB's.......brb.

I was questioning your logic . . . that's like me saying that no supermarket workers ever make it big in the NFL, and you trot out video of Kurt Warner . . .

 

[billymays]

Did you even watch a Lions game last season? Watch that play closely. That defines Kevin Jones. He could have avoided contact and tried to fake out the defender, but instead he does what he usually does: put his shoulder down and initiate the contact. That is how Kevin Jones plays the game.Questioning his toughness is crazy.

i think he is probably in the 9-15 range as far as which RB i would want on my team, but when people question his toughness....thats what irritates....he knocked gary baxter out cold, he ran through and over ray lewis, he made terry fair leave on a stretcher, he has hurt alot of people by the way he runs.

 

[lions327]

Did you even watch a Lions game last season?

Watch that play closely. That defines Kevin Jones. He could have avoided contact and tried to fake out the defender, but instead he does what he usually does: put his shoulder down and initiate the contact. That is how Kevin Jones plays the game.

Questioning his toughness is crazy.

I have already answered that; I watched the majority of their games this year . . . you are biased as a Lions fan . . . as a Lions fan, you have to admit that Williams, Furrey and Kitna all had better years offensively . . . drives stalled because Jones couldnt run on early downs . . . his 61 catches were mostly the result of checkdowns . . . he is not that good . . .

The majority of his receptions were designed plays, not checkdowns.