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I think it's JWVDCW - It was the starting front line of the Sacramento Kings for a while...JW = ?VD = Vlade DivacCW = Chris WebberBut I digress....Yeah, he's no Artose PinnerAre we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
Calling jwdvw..whatever it s.
jason williams.I think it's JWVDCW - It was the starting front line of the Sacramento Kings for a while...JW = ?VD = Vlade DivacCW = Chris WebberBut I digress....Yeah, he's no Artose PinnerAre we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
A bit of a migraine. No worries. I'm pissed about the blown lead and will take it out on the Bills Sunday. Start me with confidence.KJ, what's up with your head?Give the goodsKevin Jones said:
Yep, the same KJ who is a top 10 RB in PPR leagues.Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
Yeah, he's no Artose PinnerAre we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
Calling jwdvw..whatever it s.
IMO it'll be binary - in non-PPR leagues he'll put up either 4 or 15 points. Not very consistent.
KJ, what's up with your head?Give the goodsKevin Jones said:
Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
I dropped that scrub on waivers almost as fast as I dropped LaDanian "7 yards on 17 carries vs. Philadelphia" Tomlinson last season. And don't even get me started on Steven "12 attempts for 6 yards" Jackson, or Larry "13 yards on 8 carries with a lost fumble" Johnson last year. I kicked both of those guys to the curb, and I haven't missed them for a second. Real studs *NEVER* average a yard per carry.Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
The other players you mention have a track record to suggest that those weeks were the exception not the rule.Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
I'll give you that Tomlinson had a proven track record at the time, but Steven Jackson and Larry Johnson? No way in hell.At the time Larry Johnson posted his 8/13/0 (lost fumble) game at Denver, his track record consisted of a ridiculously hot finish at the end of one season. He broke 100 points in the last 5 games of 2004, ranking as the #1 RB in the league over that span (Kevin Jones owners, stop me when this sounds familiar- KJ was 6th in the league over the same stretch). LJ had 8 career 10-point games and 6 career 20-point games, but his stumble was far and away the most egregious because he stunk up the joint while playing in what was without question the most RB-friendly system the league has seen in DECADES. At the time Steven Jackson posted his 12/6/0 game, he had 12 career 10-point games and 4 career 20-point games . Steven Jackson also posted a 10/17/1 statline last year, and a 11/24/0 statline, too.The other players you mention have a track record to suggest that those weeks were the exception not the rule.Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
Obviously you are proud of being an idiot, as you should be, since that is one of your quotes. Responding to you is painful but I'll do it just this one time because your stat references are so convoluted yet one sided only to support your point it's :X
What? So you dropped LT after the Philly game last year? Where did you drop him? You traded him? Too bad you missed his next three weeks:107/46/4
You dropped LJ too? He had 1300 yards and 17tds the last nine weeks of the season. You didn't win one of your leagues did you?
What? This whole paragraph makes absolutely no sense at all. KC had a better system than Denver in the late 90s? Better than the Steelers in the 70s? Better than OJ? Is this what you're trying to say?
Of course you dropped him. I'm sure you know now he'd be injured in December 2005.
After that 20 yard game:116/13/1
Brown is currently 12th in RB scoring in standard leagues and looks good to finish top ten maybe even top seven when it's all said and done. This is hilarious.Yes I'd drop Reggie Bush too. Especially in a Dynasty league.
Bush is a great play every week especially in PPRs at the flex because he always has the ability to go the distance. If you trade Reggie Bush and you are in a PPR or have a flex in your league you're a stooge. So what would SSOG recommend to everyone? I'd bet you would say start the guy that will score the most points this weekend but then tell us who those guys are next Tuesday. That's great shtick.we can only assume that the ancient art of sarcasm is lost on the good doctor...Obviously you are proud of being an idiot, as you should be, since that is one of your quotes. Responding to you is painful but I’ll do it just this one time because your stat references are so convoluted yet one sided only to support your point it's :XWhat? So you dropped LT after the Philly game last year? Where did you drop him? You traded him? Too bad you missed his next three weeks:107/46/4
67/22/1
184/29/3
Now whoever “picked up” LT after you “dropped” probably lost in their championship because they couldn’t predict that LT2 would have a piss poor week vs KC in week 16. Since you are obviously gifted with the ability to predict the past, it’s easy for you to say now that you are dropping this guy and that guy.
You dropped LJ too? He had 1300 yards and 17tds the last nine weeks of the season. You didn't win one of your leagues did you?What? This whole paragraph makes absolutely no sense at all. KC had a better system than Denver in the late 90s? Better than the Steelers in the 70s? Better than OJ? Is this what you’re trying to say?
Here are the three best rushing seasons in NFL history:
3,165 New England, 1978
3,088 Buffalo, 1973
2,986 Kansas City, 1978
Kansas City never even lead the AFC in rushing! The AFC! They had 32 rushuing TDs in 2003 which is third all time but to say this was the most RB friendly system in decades what are you basing it on? Priest Holmes fantasy points in 2003? That's what it sounds like.
Of course you dropped him. I'm sure you know now he'd be injured in December 2005.After that 20 yard game:116/13/1
84/7/0
96/7/0
112/4/2 (PLAYOFF WEEK!!!!!)
23/4 (ouch)
150/10/1 (CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK)
So if you had stuck with Cadi he would have been a nice option as a #2 RB, and if you sat him vs NE (I did) you likely won your championship with those two sandwich weeks. Of course you had already dropped him. I called Cadi and he said his feelings were hurt that you dropped him.
Yes I’d drop Reggie Bush too. Especially in a Dynasty league.
Or on you.we can only assume that the ancient art of sarcasm is lost on the good doctor...Obviously you are proud of being an idiot, as you should be, since that is one of your quotes. Responding to you is painful but I’ll do it just this one time because your stat references are so convoluted yet one sided only to support your point it's :XWhat? So you dropped LT after the Philly game last year? Where did you drop him? You traded him? Too bad you missed his next three weeks:107/46/4
67/22/1
184/29/3
Now whoever “picked up” LT after you “dropped” probably lost in their championship because they couldn’t predict that LT2 would have a piss poor week vs KC in week 16. Since you are obviously gifted with the ability to predict the past, it’s easy for you to say now that you are dropping this guy and that guy.
You dropped LJ too? He had 1300 yards and 17tds the last nine weeks of the season. You didn't win one of your leagues did you?What? This whole paragraph makes absolutely no sense at all. KC had a better system than Denver in the late 90s? Better than the Steelers in the 70s? Better than OJ? Is this what you’re trying to say?
Here are the three best rushing seasons in NFL history:
3,165 New England, 1978
3,088 Buffalo, 1973
2,986 Kansas City, 1978
Kansas City never even lead the AFC in rushing! The AFC! They had 32 rushuing TDs in 2003 which is third all time but to say this was the most RB friendly system in decades what are you basing it on? Priest Holmes fantasy points in 2003? That's what it sounds like.
Of course you dropped him. I'm sure you know now he'd be injured in December 2005.After that 20 yard game:116/13/1
84/7/0
96/7/0
112/4/2 (PLAYOFF WEEK!!!!!)
23/4 (ouch)
150/10/1 (CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK)
So if you had stuck with Cadi he would have been a nice option as a #2 RB, and if you sat him vs NE (I did) you likely won your championship with those two sandwich weeks. Of course you had already dropped him. I called Cadi and he said his feelings were hurt that you dropped him.
Yes I’d drop Reggie Bush too. Especially in a Dynasty league.
i don't think so..i thought "he couldn't be that stupid"...but usually a hint of sarcasm is evident in a retort like that...couldn't see any in yours ...perhaps now you've read it again you see it?? But what do i know...Or on you.we can only assume that the ancient art of sarcasm is lost on the good doctor...Obviously you are proud of being an idiot, as you should be, since that is one of your quotes. Responding to you is painful but I’ll do it just this one time because your stat references are so convoluted yet one sided only to support your point it's :X
What? So you dropped LT after the Philly game last year? Where did you drop him? You traded him? Too bad you missed his next three weeks:
107/46/4
67/22/1
184/29/3
Now whoever “picked up” LT after you “dropped” probably lost in their championship because they couldn’t predict that LT2 would have a piss poor week vs KC in week 16. Since you are obviously gifted with the ability to predict the past, it’s easy for you to say now that you are dropping this guy and that guy.
You dropped LJ too? He had 1300 yards and 17tds the last nine weeks of the season. You didn't win one of your leagues did you?
What? This whole paragraph makes absolutely no sense at all. KC had a better system than Denver in the late 90s? Better than the Steelers in the 70s? Better than OJ? Is this what you’re trying to say?
Here are the three best rushing seasons in NFL history:
3,165 New England, 1978
3,088 Buffalo, 1973
2,986 Kansas City, 1978
Kansas City never even lead the AFC in rushing! The AFC! They had 32 rushuing TDs in 2003 which is third all time but to say this was the most RB friendly system in decades what are you basing it on? Priest Holmes fantasy points in 2003? That's what it sounds like.
Of course you dropped him. I'm sure you know now he'd be injured in December 2005.
After that 20 yard game:
116/13/1
84/7/0
96/7/0
112/4/2 (PLAYOFF WEEK!!!!!)
23/4 (ouch)
150/10/1 (CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK)
So if you had stuck with Cadi he would have been a nice option as a #2 RB, and if you sat him vs NE (I did) you likely won your championship with those two sandwich weeks. Of course you had already dropped him. I called Cadi and he said his feelings were hurt that you dropped him.
Brown is currently 12th in RB scoring in standard leagues and looks good to finish top ten maybe even top seven when it's all said and done. This is hilarious.
Yes I’d drop Reggie Bush too. Especially in a Dynasty league.
So what would SSOG recommend to everyone? I'd bet you would say start the guy that will score the most points this weekend but then tell us who those guys are next Tuesday. That's great shtick. I really hope no one of this board pays you any attention but people often check this board after drinking so it’s possible someone pays you some. In all honesty this effort today is the worst in FBG history. Congratualtions.
Putting that much effort in being sarcastic for no apparent reason begs a calculted response. It's not sarcasm but has the same affect by pointing at ridiculous assumptions made via sarcasm that are empty and flawed.
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Are we talking about Kevin "10 attempts for 8 yards" Jones?
Try telling that to the guppies in one of my leagues. KJ was dropped immediately following that Sunday's game. So obviously I'm putting a claim to him. 
Good info on his part, but I stand by my assesment that all KJ has done is get owners excited enough to draft him high or start him, only to fail to live up to expectations. Until he does otherwise I am inclined to be skeptical.
I'm ignoring the rest of your post because I don't know if it's a joke, a fishing trip, or the biggest :whoosh: in the history of FBGs, but I can address this. First off, I said that Kansas City was the most RB friendly system in decades, so going back to 1978 is sort of off limits there. I'm aware that there were some ridiculous rushing seasons in the 70s, which is why I set the cutoff point at about 20 years.As to why I called them the most RB-friendly system... no other team in the league has even come CLOSE to KC's average RB fantasy points per game over the 5-year span from 2001 to 2005. Their yards/TDs over those 5 years were 2689/18, 2798/30, 2645/31, 2896/35, 2888/30. Those are some ridiculous numbers. I mean, Kansas City had a game in that stretch where their RB ran for 4 scores, then got injured, and then their backup RB came in and ran for 4 more scores. If an RB couldn't produce in KC, then he couldn't produce anywhere.
Kevin Jones was drafted as the 17th RB off the board. Kevin Jones is currently the 9th best RB in fantasy scoring. Granted, he hasn't had his bye yet, but please explain to me how this qualifies as "failing to live up to expectations".
He is in the "getting his owners excited" stage. The failure comes later when you keep plugging him into your line-up becuase of the few good games he did have, while he continues to put up low numbers.He has had 2 great games and 3 crap games. This is not the player I want as my starting RB, I prefer a more even distribution of production. Sometimes the stats alone don't tell the whole story.
The "getting his owners excited" stage? Since when has that EVER been Kevin Jones' modus operandi?In 2004, KJ "got his owners excited" by going 19/81/0, 19/100/0, and 12/99/0 from week 10-12. The "failure that came later" as a result of his few good games came to the tune of 5 straight games of over 114 total yards (including one 200+ yard game) and 4 TDs in 5 weeks. Yeah, he sure let his owners down after he got them all excited. Then, in 2005, he never posted more than 96 total yards in any single week. Basically, he never got his owners excited in the first place that year, so how could he let them down afterwards?KJ has had 2 great games, 2 decent games, and 1 crap game in normal leagues. He's had 2 good games, 2 phenominal games, and 1 decent game in PPR leagues. Sometimes the stats don't tell the whole story... but in this case, they do.
Terms like "good" "decent" and "crap" are far too subjective.Here are his scores in my league 7,6,18,21,5In my opinon 5,6 and 7 point outings for a RB#2 are crap.If you are satisfied with that variance go for it. I would rather have, like I said, a more even distribution.SSOG said:
i dont think many people around here had him anything more than a RB3 for this yearand in that case 18 and 21 point outings for a RB3 are pretty goodhis bad games came against very good defenses so its not like someone would have put him into the lineup thinking "oh good kj has the bears this week, i bet he goes for a good 225 and 9 tds"
He was the 17th RB off the board. That is a RB#2.
WDFN Sports Radio of Detroit reports Detroit Lions OG Damien Woody (foot) will be placed on Injured Reserve Wednesday, Oct. 11. thats detroits best lineman gone for the year. 2 other starters on the line and the primary backup are dinged as well. i've always loved KJ but the deck is now seriously stacked against him. i'm just hoping he can catch enough passes to make up for what could be a rough year running the ball.
that was in his leaguehe wasnt drafted that early in minei think 17 was a little high compared to his average draft spotso we can just say low 2 high 3-cooli think your scoring rules are pretty tough for a guy like kj(no ppr)in my leaque he is scoring better than almost half of the first round backs
I assume when SSOG quoted his draft postion it was his ADP. He is usually pretty good about those things. We will see what the future holds, but I predict he falls down the rankings. Losing a lineman can't help.
Yup. That 17th comes straight out of September 4th FBGs ADP. To be honest, I think I grabbed him as the 15th RB off the board in one of my leagues. I know I was high on Kevin Jones this season simply because he'd be the last RB off the board without ANY concerns about having to share carries, which is a pretty nice commodity to have.
The friggin lions put everything on their website in video or audio format with no transcripts that i can find. Sort of a problem in the instant-Google news era. I can't listen to these things based for one statement.official injury report shoudl be out soon. i'm guessing questionable, so probably not a whole lot of info.
No...i would`nt think so....a guy could be healthy all week and get hurt warming up and be ruled out for that game.Art_VanDalay said:
