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I want this thread to continuously update the status on Kevin Jones throughout the week. Where does everyone go with him after these two struggles against San Fran and Arizona. Is he written off on all of your fantasy teams? Does he still have any value next year? How serious is this injury?

 
I want this thread to continuously update the status on Kevin Jones throughout the week. Where does everyone go with him after these two struggles against San Fran and Arizona. Is he written off on all of your fantasy teams? Does he still have any value next year? How serious is this injury?
Preliminary word is an ankle sprain. One would assume it's fairly serious considering that he was carted off the field. In the quote posted in the weekly injury thread (which seemed to be post x-ray), it mentioned nothing of a break, strictly a sprain. There is nothing but speculation as to the amount of time he'll miss, but my guess is that it'll be a month before he's at 100%.And yes, he has value next year. :resistsrolleyes:
 
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Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.

With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.

 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
My roster includes McNabb, Portis, Farve, Reggie Brown and Driver. :cry:
 
I lost Mcnabb and Jones also and for depth on my bench was Lamont talk about bad karma, I have also Barlow who doesnt have a bad matchup against Houston this week versus me picking up another waiver back like Fargas or Arlen Harris dont you think?

 
What does the Lion roster look like. Arlen Harris got some carries when KJ went down - who else is on that team. I know Calhoun is on IR, right? They still have Pinner?

 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
It was a tough week for injuries. One team in my league had McNabb and Jones..I had to snicker a bit.
 
What does the Lion roster look like. Arlen Harris got some carries when KJ went down - who else is on that team. I know Calhoun is on IR, right? They still have Pinner?
Pinner, IRRC, is in Minnesota.Calhoun is on IR as is Shawn Bryson. It's the Arlen Harris show, barring a free agent signing.
 
What does the Lion roster look like. Arlen Harris got some carries when KJ went down - who else is on that team. I know Calhoun is on IR, right? They still have Pinner?
Pinner is on the Vikings. If Jones misses any time, I assume Harris will get most of the work, with Aveion Cason spelling him. If I recall correctly, Harris did have a couple of really good games with the Rams back when he filled in for Faulk. I also wonder something about high ankle sprains: do they usually know right away the kind of sprain it is? The thing I though of was when they were wrapping his ankle, no ice, as if he was going to try to play. Does that normally happen with high ankle sprains? I have yet to hear anything official about his injury.
 
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What does the Lion roster look like. Arlen Harris got some carries when KJ went down - who else is on that team. I know Calhoun is on IR, right? They still have Pinner?
Pinner is on the Vikings. If Jones misses any time, I assume Harris will get most of the work, with Aveion Cason spelling him. I also wonder something about high ankle sprains: do they usually know right away the kind of sprain it is? The thing I though of was when they were wrapping his ankle, no ice, as if he was going to try to play. Does that normally happen with high ankle sprains? I have yet to hear anything official about his injury.
Were those radio reports debunked? I know the people saying "out for season" were joking, but didnt others have prelim. reports via radio that it was high-ankle?
 
What does the Lion roster look like. Arlen Harris got some carries when KJ went down - who else is on that team. I know Calhoun is on IR, right? They still have Pinner?
Pinner is on the Vikings. If Jones misses any time, I assume Harris will get most of the work, with Aveion Cason spelling him. I also wonder something about high ankle sprains: do they usually know right away the kind of sprain it is? The thing I though of was when they were wrapping his ankle, no ice, as if he was going to try to play. Does that normally happen with high ankle sprains? I have yet to hear anything official about his injury.
Were those radio reports debunked? I know the people saying "out for season" were joking, but didnt others have prelim. reports via radio that it was high-ankle?
Yesterday, Marinelli said he did not know if it was a high sprain. That's the closest to an official report as I have heard up to this point.
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
:goodposting: I for one find enjoyment reading about the trials of others and it often gives me a sense of going through the valley together. I don't see the harm in sharing your team frustration, but I do seem harm in this assault on these type of posts by smart alics like tribecalledjeff, who seems to head this team of board assasins. Must not be much fun to live in his world.
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
It was a tough week for injuries. One team in my league had McNabb and Jones..I had to snicker a bit.
Another McNabb/Jones owner here. There seem to be a lot of us. So, tribecalledjeff, somebody freaking cares (if only because misery loves company).
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
:goodposting: I for one find enjoyment reading about the trials of others and it often gives me a sense of going through the valley together. I don't see the harm in sharing your team frustration, but I do seem harm in this assault on these type of posts by smart alics like tribecalledjeff, who seems to head this team of board assasins. Must not be much fun to live in his world.
in that case, you'll be happy to know that in my redraft league, i lost McNabb and Colston. traded Kitna 2 weeks ago for Tony G, who is also hurt. in my keeper, i lost KJones and Colston.both are big money leagues. i was one of the strongest teams in each. so, if you like that kind of post, then take solace in knowing that i'm hating life.
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
:goodposting: I for one find enjoyment reading about the trials of others and it often gives me a sense of going through the valley together. I don't see the harm in sharing your team frustration, but I do seem harm in this assault on these type of posts by smart alics like tribecalledjeff, who seems to head this team of board assasins. Must not be much fun to live in his world.
Honestly this is debatable. This thread is a great idea but if 75% of the total posts are "oh whoa is me i've got jones what am i gonna do" the thread becomes diluted and basically useless (and I'm not saying this is there now).One or two posts is fine, but if the thread turns into a whining/self-pity discussion it becomes increasingly difficult to find the good info that you need.The venting thread was created if you want to discuss your team's injury problems.Back to the news, I haven't heard anything new, and it certainly looks like it'll be Harris on 1st and 2nd downs and possibly Cason in on 3rds. Neither will be very involved in passing game, which means two things to me:(1) Neither will be that great of a fill-in with the rough matchups the Lions have.(2) This impacts Kitna and possibly Roy negatively IMO as he doesn't have a dump off anymore.
 
Guy in my league was 8-2 heading into this weeks game facing my team which is 8-2. Ironically my team name is ACL... but his team had McNabb, Jordan and Kevin Jones. OUCH.

That should teach teams to mess with me. :)

 
KJ owner here. I don't see him playing this Thursday if it was bad enough to keep him out of the Game & even if he does who knows how long he'll last. That's been a slight problem of KJ's, once he gets dinged he seems to come out of future games he's playing in.

 
tietzjd said:
tribecalledjeff said:
tietzjd said:
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
I agree. Just ignore the troll. It will go away quietly if you don't talk to it and continue on as normal.
 
Rusty Syringes said:
tietzjd said:
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
My roster includes McNabb, Portis, Farve, Reggie Brown and Driver. :cry:
A good example of why you should not draft key players from the same team (minus Portis, of course). That is bad luck.
 
my man otis said:
Back to the news, I haven't heard anything new, and it certainly looks like it'll be Harris on 1st and 2nd downs and possibly Cason in on 3rds. Neither will be very involved in passing game, which means two things to me:

(1) Neither will be that great of a fill-in with the rough matchups the Lions have.

(2) This impacts Kitna and possibly Roy negatively IMO as he doesn't have a dump off anymore.
:goodposting: Joe B. reported that it looks as if Harris will be the man; he did get the red zone looks (link to game log).

Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably. This is not a situation where the backups are viable replacements. I agree that the entire DET offense s/b downgraded (disclosure: I am a Roy and KJ owner); they hadn't exactly been lighting up the scoreboard the last couple weeks, anyway.

 
Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably.
I don't know about Cason but I'd differ with you on your opinion that Harris failed miserably backing up Faulk. IIRC Harris was the third stringer the years he got playing time and he got 3 starts with the Rams under Martz and had one great game, on average game, and one very poor game. In PPR leages his PPG average in his 3 starts was 17.7. He also had another game were he came on in relief early and ran for 85 yards and a TD. KJ was running like a beast and he's going to be sorely missed by a few of my teams but IF Harris is really the man he's a solid RB-2 IMO in PPR leagues and solid RB-3, flex player in non PPR leagues.
 
Arlen Harris Career Statistics

YR TM G RSH YD Y/R TD TRG REC YD Y/R TD FPT RANK

2003 STL 16 85 255 3.0 4 19 15 102 6.8 0 60 51

2004 STL 14 20 63 3.1 0 4 4 44 11.0 0 11 115

2005 STL 16 13 21 1.6 1 5 4 34 8.5 0 12 105

2006 DET 4 10 40 4.0 1 3 1 6 6.0 0 11 88

TOT 50 128 379 3.0 6 31 24 186 7.8 0 94

Sorry about the lack of formatting...

I just don't see him as worth much. The 4 TDs do indicate that he's a goal-line option, if nothing else. PPR will also help Harris' value. He could be worth a look in large or deep-rostered leagues.

I've got to believe most teams have somebody better on the bench; if not, it may not make any diffference to your season...

 
Didn't he put on weight and play FB at one point for the Rams? I am not sure if that is accurate....what is his playing weight now?

 
Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably.
I don't know about Cason but I'd differ with you on your opinion that Harris failed miserably backing up Faulk. IIRC Harris was the third stringer the years he got playing time and he got 3 starts with the Rams under Martz and had one great game, on average game, and one very poor game. In PPR leages his PPG average in his 3 starts was 17.7. He also had another game were he came on in relief early and ran for 85 yards and a TD. KJ was running like a beast and he's going to be sorely missed by a few of my teams but IF Harris is really the man he's a solid RB-2 IMO in PPR leagues and solid RB-3, flex player in non PPR leagues.
Did they announce anything yet. I think many are jumping the gun. I believe that he may be out Thurs. due to short week, but man people are jumping the gun with Harris and Cason. Wow! Unless I am missing something I have not seen anything to say KJ has anything other than an injury that caused him to miss most of yesterdays game. He did go off the field under his own power, which is good.
 
Arlen Harris Career StatisticsYR TM G RSH YD Y/R TD TRG REC YD Y/R TD FPT RANK 2003 STL 16 85 255 3.0 4 19 15 102 6.8 0 60 51 2004 STL 14 20 63 3.1 0 4 4 44 11.0 0 11 115 2005 STL 16 13 21 1.6 1 5 4 34 8.5 0 12 105 2006 DET 4 10 40 4.0 1 3 1 6 6.0 0 11 88 TOT 50 128 379 3.0 6 31 24 186 7.8 0 94 Sorry about the lack of formatting...I just don't see him as worth much. The 4 TDs do indicate that he's a goal-line option, if nothing else. PPR will also help Harris' value. He could be worth a look in large or deep-rostered leagues.I've got to believe most teams have somebody better on the bench; if not, it may not make any diffference to your season...
Those stats mean nothing. He was the third stringer most of the time, what kind of stats was he suppossed to put up sitting on the bench?The only stats that matter is what did he do when he got the chance to play and when he's got the chance he's played well. As for goal line work, he's carried the ball more than 10 times in a game 5 times and has 5 TD's in those games including a goal line TD yesterday.
 
Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably.
I don't know about Cason but I'd differ with you on your opinion that Harris failed miserably backing up Faulk. IIRC Harris was the third stringer the years he got playing time and he got 3 starts with the Rams under Martz and had one great game, on average game, and one very poor game. In PPR leages his PPG average in his 3 starts was 17.7. He also had another game were he came on in relief early and ran for 85 yards and a TD. KJ was running like a beast and he's going to be sorely missed by a few of my teams but IF Harris is really the man he's a solid RB-2 IMO in PPR leagues and solid RB-3, flex player in non PPR leagues.
Did they announce anything yet. I think many are jumping the gun. I believe that he may be out Thurs. due to short week, but man people are jumping the gun with Harris and Cason. Wow! Unless I am missing something I have not seen anything to say KJ has anything other than an injury that caused him to miss most of yesterdays game. He did go off the field under his own power, which is good.
No nothing has been announced yet but even the most optimistic KJ owner can't really think he's coming back on 3 days rest. Can you? His loss yesterday hurt me bad for the week and maybe my season and at this point I'd be tickled to death if he came back relatively healthy for week 13. But I did back him up with Harris in every league I own him and feel like Harris is going to be good for some solid production in the meantime.
 
Those stats mean nothing. He was the third stringer most of the time, what kind of stats was he suppossed to put up sitting on the bench?

The only stats that matter is what did he do when he got the chance to play and when he's got the chance he's played well. As for goal line work, he's carried the ball more than 10 times in a game 5 times and has 5 TD's in those games including a goal line TD yesterday.
We'll just have to agree to disagree here :) The stats do matter - that's his body of work, and FF value is measured by stats. Harris has only had two games in his career - one of them yesterday - where he's averaged 4+ ypc. He's had 10+ touches only 7 times. He's never had a 100 yard game. If he produced more consistently he wouldn't have been on the bench. He does get goal line work which helps his value, as I indicated in earlier posts. He is capable of catching the ball out of the backfield, which is a bump for him in PPR.

As a Roy owner, I hope Harris steps in and makes opposing defenses respect the run. I just don't think he's going to do enough to warrant a FF roster spot.

 
jinx

my roster includes or included during the last 4 weeks

t bell (included in a trade for KJones this past)

w mcgahee

c portis

k jones

 
Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably.
I don't know about Cason but I'd differ with you on your opinion that Harris failed miserably backing up Faulk. IIRC Harris was the third stringer the years he got playing time and he got 3 starts with the Rams under Martz and had one great game, on average game, and one very poor game. In PPR leages his PPG average in his 3 starts was 17.7. He also had another game were he came on in relief early and ran for 85 yards and a TD. KJ was running like a beast and he's going to be sorely missed by a few of my teams but IF Harris is really the man he's a solid RB-2 IMO in PPR leagues and solid RB-3, flex player in non PPR leagues.
Did they announce anything yet. I think many are jumping the gun. I believe that he may be out Thurs. due to short week, but man people are jumping the gun with Harris and Cason. Wow! Unless I am missing something I have not seen anything to say KJ has anything other than an injury that caused him to miss most of yesterdays game. He did go off the field under his own power, which is good.
We're inferring that since (a) he didn't come back into the game, (b) he was carted back to the locker room, © they play again in 3 days, (d) harris got 10 carries to cason's 4 and (e) Harris got the GL work that Harris is KJ's primary backup and KJ won't be playing Thursday.
 
Both Harris and Cason were with Martz in STL. Both were given the opportunity to backup Faulk, and both failed miserably.
I don't know about Cason but I'd differ with you on your opinion that Harris failed miserably backing up Faulk. IIRC Harris was the third stringer the years he got playing time and he got 3 starts with the Rams under Martz and had one great game, on average game, and one very poor game. In PPR leages his PPG average in his 3 starts was 17.7. He also had another game were he came on in relief early and ran for 85 yards and a TD. KJ was running like a beast and he's going to be sorely missed by a few of my teams but IF Harris is really the man he's a solid RB-2 IMO in PPR leagues and solid RB-3, flex player in non PPR leagues.
Did they announce anything yet. I think many are jumping the gun. I believe that he may be out Thurs. due to short week, but man people are jumping the gun with Harris and Cason. Wow! Unless I am missing something I have not seen anything to say KJ has anything other than an injury that caused him to miss most of yesterdays game. He did go off the field under his own power, which is good.
he got hurt on i think lions 2nd drive, 3rd or fourth play, went to the sidelines, taped his foot, got carted off the sidelinesi watched the game, and as a KJ owner, Im not too sure if i'll be seeing him play come thanksgiving
 
Is it a little bit weird that there is absolutely no news in regards to the extent of his injury?

Most of the other injured players from yesterday has headlines and updates...McNabb out, Jordan out, Rodgers out, Favre ok, Colston day-to-day, etc.

 
Is it a little bit weird that there is absolutely no news in regards to the extent of his injury? Most of the other injured players from yesterday has headlines and updates...McNabb out, Jordan out, Rodgers out, Favre ok, Colston day-to-day, etc.
Thinking the same thing. Even saw on www.detroitlions.com they updated the "blog" section today with quotes from Marinelli were he went into great detail talking about Shaun Rodgers immiment return but no mention was made of KJ or the offense at all for that matter. I"m assuming KJ's out this week but I'm just wanting some good news about a week 13 return.
 
I am really getting ticked. I heard injury news on Colsten, McNabb, etc. and nothing and I mean nothing about JOnes. Well today is Monday, they play on Thursday. They had to do something today, so I don't know what the deal is. This really stinks!

 
Anybody who thinks Jones will actually play this week is ignoring the fact that A) Jones has a history of wimping out of games & B) They play in 3 days

 
Anybody who thinks Jones will actually play this week is ignoring the fact that A) Jones has a history of wimping out of games & B) They play in 3 days
Yahoo has just confirmed information that KJ will be doubtful for week 12 against the Dolphins. KJ owners, I would hop on Arlin Harris ASAP.
 
Anybody who thinks Jones will actually play this week is ignoring the fact that A) Jones has a history of wimping out of games & B) They play in 3 days
I'm not necessarily looking for info on his status for this week. I want to know if he will be out for an extended period of time (like the rest of the season), or if this is something that he most likely will miss or game or maybe two from. I can live with having him out for a game or so, but if it's much more than that I need to start making roster moves to prepare for the playoffs.
 
Lose Mcnabb, Kevin Jones as starters in 1 week. Loss Farve as backup and the only reason to start one of your starting WR (Driver) In the next 10 min. = Bumber of Sunday.With Double headers I have 4 games left with magic number still at 3 .... Not looking good.
Nobody freaking cares. Is it just me or has the number of these kind of posts increased exponentially over the course of the season?
Everyone Should care... This place used to have Family Feel... But JackA like you are changing that quickly.
Please check the member numbers before telling me what this place "used to be" like.Also, see the venting thread made specifically for, shockingly, venting.
 
Jones has a history of wimping out of games
:rolleyes: Aside from this silliness, as someone who watched every DET preseason game, I can say that Harris looked pretty damned good. I was shocked they cut him and he didn't see more time. I think he'll be a capable fill in.
 

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