Kevin Kolb's Value (1 Viewer)

[DenverBroncos]

I'm curious as to what people are giving and/or receiving with regard to obtaining Kolb. Saw some speculation by a Philly beat writer that he believes Kolb will be the man next year (although he is purely just speculating).

Seems like a good time to acquire him as he could/will be in a dynamic offense and has shown he has the ability to be a solid fantasy QB.

 

[JohnnyU]

I turned down a late 1st (12 team league) and I already have Brees and Ryan. That's how I feel about Kolb's talent. Some will say I should take that deal, but IMO he's worth a little more in a dynasty league. I think he will be starting for someone in 2010.

 

[Ariakis]

I decided to keep a late 1st in a dynasty league rather than trade for him with an uncertain 2010. If he is starting for the Eagles he'd probably be worth it but if he's the backup until 2011 or starting for a team like Cleveland probably not.

 

[BigTex]

Unless you've watched him in college it's hard to put a true value on Kevin Kolb because his play has been limited so far at the NFL level. With that being said I've watched him in college and believe he has the skill set to be one of the best QBs in the game in a few years. I also agree with JohnnyU, he's worth much more than a late first.

 

[MAC_32]

I'd sell to the highest bidder. McNabb's still going to be the starter, if someone is getting traded it's Kolb, and it won't be to a good situation. Even if Kolb is the starting QB in 2010 don't expect good production. He's not a good starting QB, adequate backup and little more, it'll probably be worse if he's dealt to another team. If another owner is offering you a 1st rounder, take it and run. A Sam Bradford, Demaryius Thomas, Stafon Johnson, etc. is a much better building piece than Kolb.

 

[JohnnyU]

I decided to keep a late 1st in a dynasty league rather than trade for him with an uncertain 2010. If he is starting for the Eagles he'd probably be worth it but if he's the backup until 2011 or starting for a team like Cleveland probably not.

If he's starting for the Eagles I wouldn't trade him for the 1.12 Hell, if he's starting for anyone he's worth more than the 1.12.

 

[G-King]

I'd sell to the highest bidder. McNabb's still going to be the starter, if someone is getting traded it's Kolb, and it won't be to a good situation. Even if Kolb is the starting QB in 2010 don't expect good production. He's not a good starting QB, adequate backup and little more, it'll probably be worse if he's dealt to another team. If another owner is offering you a 1st rounder, take it and run. A Sam Bradford, Demaryius Thomas, Stafon Johnson, etc. is a much better building piece than Kolb.

Ha ha... you must be trying to trade for him, huh?He will be starting for either Philly or your team next year. If he stays in Philly with those recievers he will be a good QB1 to own. Now if he joins the lowly Browns- he will probably be an average QB2. Where ever he ends up, he WILL be starting, and definitly put up better numbers than any of the rookie QB's that you say are better.

 

[MAC_32]

I'd sell to the highest bidder. McNabb's still going to be the starter, if someone is getting traded it's Kolb, and it won't be to a good situation. Even if Kolb is the starting QB in 2010 don't expect good production. He's not a good starting QB, adequate backup and little more, it'll probably be worse if he's dealt to another team. If another owner is offering you a 1st rounder, take it and run. A Sam Bradford, Demaryius Thomas, Stafon Johnson, etc. is a much better building piece than Kolb.

Ha ha... you must be trying to trade for him, huh?He will be starting for either Philly or your team next year. If he stays in Philly with those recievers he will be a good QB1 to own. Now if he joins the lowly Browns- he will probably be an average QB2. Where ever he ends up, he WILL be starting, and definitly put up better numbers than any of the rookie QB's that you say are better.

No, I know a lot of people use this board to do that but that's not my style. I don't think he's any good, but since others do I would find those others and sell him to them.

 

[CaptainHook]

what are you basing that on mac?

hes shown absolutely nothing but positive signs. i can see not being completely sold but what youre saying is garbage.

 

[MAC_32]

what are you basing that on mac?hes shown absolutely nothing but positive signs. i can see not being completely sold but what youre saying is garbage.

The prospect he was coming into the league, a system QB that doesn't know how to read the field. Betting money says he will be like almost all of the others and at the very best be average and more likely flame out. Little upside and lots of downside is not what I'm looking for at a late 1st round rookie draft pick, if that's his going rate then sell him.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Matt Cassel v2.0

 

[CaptainHook]

lightning quick release

extremely good accuracy

great pocket presence

youre right that his ability to read a defense has yet to be seen but i cant imagine him being too lost out there after studying the offense for 3 years.

cassell is a horrendous comparison

 

[Warhogs]

I would think late first is his approximate value. I look at it as saying do you want to take a chance on one of the rookies with that pick vs. Kolb. Neither Kolb nor a rookie coming in has played enough to make a sound decision on them yet. Kolb has had a chance to mature for a couple of years behind McNabb but I would doubt the Eagles move from Kolb to McNabb in 2010 so he either gets traded or sits for a while yet. Most rookie QB will also sit for a while before producing. I would say Kolb = a pick in the late first/early second round.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

He's woth a mid-2nd pick. His true talent lies somewhere between how poorly he played against Baltimore in 2008, and how good he looked against terrible defenses in 2009. The fact that he'll likely be traded in the offseason really makes it a gamble to trade for him now. It could payoff if he goes to a team like Washington or Seattle, and it could backfire if he goes to a team like Cleveland.

 

[CaptainHook]

except he didn't play that poorly against baltimore in 08

 

[Prinefan]

Kolb (and McNabb) owner here and I would gladly take a late first for Kolb. I thought he played great when he had the chance but he's also been maturing in the same system for a few years. He won't start for the Eagles next year and if he starts elsewhere I think there will be a learning curve for a year or so. He won't be producing elsewhere immediately.

 

[az_prof]

Kolb (and McNabb) owner here and I would gladly take a late first for Kolb. I thought he played great when he had the chance but he's also been maturing in the same system for a few years. He won't start for the Eagles next year and if he starts elsewhere I think there will be a learning curve for a year or so. He won't be producing elsewhere immediately.

This makes a lot of sense to me. Plus the fail rate for young QBs is very high. I would rather take that late first and turn it into a rookie WR drafted in the first round. They also have a high fail rate but QBs just are not worth that much in dynasty unless they are a type 5 kind of QB--at least not in my dynasty league.

 

[tbglog]

He needs to go to MN and play for Childress in the same system he is now. Fast learning curve into that offense. God knows MN is lacking in the NFC in the up and coming QB catagory. GB, Chicago and Detroit all have there guys for the next 7-10 years MN needs to trade for him.

 

[Avery]

Matt Cassel v2.0

Why not Matt Schaub 2.0 or do you just have a short memory?

 

[Moonlight_Graham]

According to WIP Radio in Philadelphia's Howard Eskin, young Eagles players sought advice on the sidelines from Kevin Kolb rather than Donovan McNabb during regular season games.

This may indicate that the in-house feeling is Kolb will be the team's QB of the future, though it's unclear when that will be come official. It also may hint that the players envision Kolb as the better leader. The Eagles will likely be open-eared about McNabb when the trading period opens on March 5.

Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

 

[Mighty Mice]

I like KK a bunch, and believe he has a proming future. However, it is worth pointing out that his two statistically stellar performances came against the woeful Chiefs D and in garbage time against the Saints. (Maybe "garbage time" stretches the point a little, but the Eagles were down big and threw a ton. Kind of inflated #'s, IMO). Similarly, I did not feel his 2nd half against the Ravens in 2008 was a fair assessment either (He threw 4 picks in the second half)

If he is the starter in PHI his value is higher than anywhere else he could be traded to. Pass happy coach/offense, great weapons. So will Philly go with KK in 2010?

Any comparison to McNabb is premature, IMO, and definately not an equal one. I would be inclined to think they stay with McNabb, but if contractual issues (McNabb wanting an extension) come up then who knows. Here's a quick 2010 comp:

TD/INT: Kolb 4-3; McNabb 22-10

Win-Loss (%): Kolb 1-1 (.500); McNabb .714 (10-4)

Pass Rating: Kolb 88.9; McNabb 92.9

Not saying Kolb can't be the guy in PHI in 2010, but is he better NOW? I really don't know the answer to that.

Overall, I've seen KK in his appearances as an Eagle. 7 INTs in 130 pass attempts is disconcerting. He also has shown nice flashes. Watching the Eagles, I saw this offense make Jay Feeley, Koy Detmer, and Jeff Garcia all look good subbing for McNabb, so there are no gaurantees.

If he starts in Philly, I would put him around QB12-15. In my league, QB's don't carry a lot of trade value. That would probably fetch a late first (1.10-1.12, or the same tier as Cutler/VY/Eli). His upside in this situation is large, however.

If he is traded, I have a hard time ranking him a top-15 QB. A second round prospect. (Same tier as a Chad Henne or Palmer)