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Beau Tocks
Footballguy
It was not a steal but I solidified my roster. I have Mendenhall and needed a backup TE to Graham. I gave up K. Smith and Wayne for Dwyer and Gates. Even deal I feel and filled the needs of both owners.
Resident A
Footballguy
LeShoure had a complete rupture of his achilles. No NFL player has ever returned from that injury & been close to 100% of their former self, even years later. That injury ends most careers. Please don't mention Demaryius Thomas, his was a partial achilles tear. Takeo Spikes is the only notable player I can think of who has come back & been effective, but went from All-Pro to average and had to switch to ILB due to the speed he lost.
People are way too quick to to assume LeShoure still has the ability to be a starting RB in the NFL. History tells us it's doubtful that any RB who's had a complete achilles rupture can ever be a featured back.
Smith has been very effective, good in pass protection, and has shown no reason why would lose reps. I need a RB2, and right now Kevin Smith is my best option. So rather than trade him for a position I really don't need, I'm holding & starting him until he gives me a reason not to.
People are way too quick to to assume LeShoure still has the ability to be a starting RB in the NFL. History tells us it's doubtful that any RB who's had a complete achilles rupture can ever be a featured back.
Smith has been very effective, good in pass protection, and has shown no reason why would lose reps. I need a RB2, and right now Kevin Smith is my best option. So rather than trade him for a position I really don't need, I'm holding & starting him until he gives me a reason not to.
rocketsauce
Footballguy
<---This Guy Did
Gave Kevin Smith & Donald Jones for Greg Jennings to a desperate owner about 15 minutes before kickoff last night.
Gave Kevin Smith & Donald Jones for Greg Jennings to a desperate owner about 15 minutes before kickoff last night.
bagger
Footballguy
holy crap nice work.i am now trying to trade k smith for a brown.with benson looking good last night and havin rice, t richardson, and dwyer (and felix jones but he will probably hurt himself carrying murry's jock after practice) i am trying to land some nice depth at the wr position.'44orange said:
bagger
Footballguy
to me it is not just leshoure but his injury history.i am definitely not going to fire sell smith. if you cant get someone who will help your team in a meaningful way, hold onto him. but after week one with people over reacting if you can pick someone off to get better value than you perceive smith to have even while healthy go for it.other than the crazy person trying to tell people to trade smith for a 10th rounder, everyone here is trying to trade smith as if he was a 4th round pick, not an 8th.'Resident A said:
I drafted Smith in the 8th round of a 12 team draft. People understood his eventual situation, which is why he fell so low despite being the clear cut #1 RB for the first two weeks. If everything plays out the way it's speculated (LeShoure comes back and takes a significant chunk of action from Smith) then how does Smith hold the same value as a player drafted in the 4th round who is holding his value(ex, BGE, Gore) ? His value will dip way down below players who were drafted in the mid-later rounds (ex, ingram, benson, michael bush pre forte inj). Maybe a QBBC QB would be good value in exchange for K Smith (Flacco, Freeman). Those QBs were drafted pretty lateETA: i agree that you should shoot high for a 4th round type player, but i just don't know how realistic it is...but from what i've been reading, looks like its more realistic than i thought
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basically the guy gets hurt a lot and a RB that the Lions are high on is coming back...it's no secret...so i find it hard to imagine other owners are willing to give much up to acquire him...i know i wouldn't give up much in the leagues where i don't have him...
it's just confusing because every time Smith gets a chance, he is a solid contributor...he doesn't hold back the offense...it makes me really interested though to see what LeShoure can do if in fact they believe he is better than smith
it's just confusing because every time Smith gets a chance, he is a solid contributor...he doesn't hold back the offense...it makes me really interested though to see what LeShoure can do if in fact they believe he is better than smith
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i'd say you win...solid chance Vick and Smith are both hurt by week 7
It is hard to say, he has been concussed a lot, and if he has many more he will go off the deep end...
habsfan
Footballguy
Typically with concussion protocol you have to walk before you can run (so to speak). Can he work out vigorously without headaches or becoming disoriented etc? I haven't heard anything in terms of incremental progress for this guy. To say he isn't cleared for contact isn't particularly helpful.
djmich
Footballguy
Time will have changed, concussions are so "fuzzy" from a medical perspective that all doctors go cautious and prescribe time as the medicine.You guys must not be hockey fans, same thing with Sidney Crosby, everyone was talking about him retiring after not playing for a long time and having some false starts, etc. He finally came back after what seemed like all of his doctors saying "we've waited long enough".I think the difference between Crosby and Best is that Best plays in a sport where his head will be impacted multiple times per game...I can see him coming back but I don't think it will be long before he gets another concussion.Guy was knocked out via concussion almost a YEAR ago and he's STILL not cleared to play by doctors. What will change in the next month that hasn't changed in the previous 10?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
He's a sit this week with a remote chance for a dump off pass for a TD.
However, when healthy and he is, he's a pretty solid start in all formats.
However, when healthy and he is, he's a pretty solid start in all formats.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Did anyone watch him play last week? I was watching highlights of all the games and was thoroughly..unimpressed with his running. I specifically noticed that he looked rather weak finishing runs, being content with flopping forward instead of lowering his pads. I know K.Smith isn't one of the best pure runners in the league, but he looked worse than I thought (even against STL). I thought he looked better coming onto the scene last year, maybe it was just fresh legs. I just recently traded him in one league but I believe it's too late in the other. I think if you're an owner you should be looking to sell him or to acquire Leshoure. I don't like the situation one bit.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
Yeah, me too...
MacAvery
Footballguy
Smith isn't one of the bigger backs that looks to initiate contact. He tries to efficiently get all the yards that are there and he is capable of breaking one if the opportunity presents itself. He is an efficient, smart back who has the confidence of a team who will call his number over and over again as he is one of the 3 main playmakers in a prolific offense. He breaks off chunks of yardage running and receiving and he makes some clutch plays. But...tell me he didn't lower his pads and finish his run after his catch right after the 2 minute warning of the 1st half. And I thought he drove the pile well for extra yardage on his carry at 7:30 of the 3rd quarter. I thought he showed good leg drive to force his way into the endzone on his touchdown run in the 4th quarter.Having said all of this, you are right that Leshoure could take some work from him IF he shows himself worthy. That is yet to be seen but it's a distinct possibility.'SameSongNDance said:
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I may need to watch the game again. Maybe I was just jaded after watching Spiller run all over NYJ. I'm honestly a huge Smith proponent and have rooted for the guy ever since he came into the NFL. Something about his performance against STL made me feel uneasy though, like if the match-up isn't right he'll completely struggle. It's crazy, IMO, that I can peg him as a blatant RB1 in PPR one week and barely a flex the next. Sure, STL's and SF's DEF are on opposite ends of the spectrum, but there aren't many RBs who can claim that kind of variance in possible production. I honestly hope he proves me wrong tomorrow.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Smith looked solid in that game (except for one drop, IIRC). He is a smart runner, as someone said. Efficent, lives to play another play. He's no Lynch and that's ok by me.But hoping he proves you wrong tomorrow is not how I'd go about assessing Smith's potential as a FF player. On paper, he might be worth cutting after tomorrow night. And that'd be stupid.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He'd prove me wrong by managing a TD tomorrow to go along with the 50-60 total yards and 3-4 receptions. I'm not using match ups with SF as some barometer to measure a RBs potential (see Benson), but if he does ANYTHING tomorrow he'll turn heads. I hope that happens, nothing wrong with that.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Numbers aren't pretty but I'm encouraged. He's a good runner. Will do well in home games if he gets the touches.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He does look good. I wish the situation wasn't getting murky as soon as next week.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Not sure Schwartz is all that transparent but maybe he won't make this all that murky after all. Besides, Leshoure hasn't proven much and if he can't pass block, he probably ain't playing. Stafford's having a hard enough time these days.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I am wondering if Smith got hurt toward the end of the game. He took a nasty hit in the back as he stretched out over the middle trying to leap up for an overthrown ball by Stafford. I saw him get up, and put his hand in the air to come off of the field... it was directly before Bell's big catch and run. He didn't return, although it was the last drive.
