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Kiffin might be out... someday (1 Viewer)
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schooner44
Footballguy
Depending on the replacement, this will either be a great move or a terrible one. For the Raider's sake, I hope the senile old coot gets this right.
Apollo Creed
Footballguy
Sweet Jebus! Ryan should be the one fired after blowing that lead. It's gonna be a looooooooooong season. 
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
This is good news for Chargers, Chiefs and Bronco fans.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Good luck and good riddance.
Kiffin deserves the shot at coaching in a more congenial atmosphere, but hope he is more cognizant of the situation he placed himself into the next time around. Al's an easy target, but a lot of blame can be placed on both sides for this one.
Bottom line is that replacing a coach midseason is always disruptive, and the timing after a really tough loss makes it even harder. But this team seems to be playing as hard as it is able to through all of this distraction and adversity, so hope they can keep it together until this situation settles down some under some new leadership.
Kiffin deserves the shot at coaching in a more congenial atmosphere, but hope he is more cognizant of the situation he placed himself into the next time around. Al's an easy target, but a lot of blame can be placed on both sides for this one.
Bottom line is that replacing a coach midseason is always disruptive, and the timing after a really tough loss makes it even harder. But this team seems to be playing as hard as it is able to through all of this distraction and adversity, so hope they can keep it together until this situation settles down some under some new leadership.
kaa
Footballguy
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8593236...-Kiffin-Monday-
Sources: Raiders' Davis to fire Kiffin Monday
By Jay Glazer
Updated: September 22, 2008, 12:16 AM EST
It appears the Lane Kiffin experiment in Oakland may really be over this time ... no really... seriously.
Kiffin has been informed by Raiders officials that Al Davis intends to remove him as the team's head coach as early as Monday, FOXSports.com has learned.
Davis blamed Kiffin for the Raiders' 24-23 loss on Sunday to the Bills, and told his underlings that he will make the move on Monday. This same move was widely reported to be made last Monday and Kiffin survived, although last week began after a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs.
Sources: Raiders' Davis to fire Kiffin Monday
By Jay Glazer
Updated: September 22, 2008, 12:16 AM EST
It appears the Lane Kiffin experiment in Oakland may really be over this time ... no really... seriously.
Kiffin has been informed by Raiders officials that Al Davis intends to remove him as the team's head coach as early as Monday, FOXSports.com has learned.
Davis blamed Kiffin for the Raiders' 24-23 loss on Sunday to the Bills, and told his underlings that he will make the move on Monday. This same move was widely reported to be made last Monday and Kiffin survived, although last week began after a victory over the Kansas City Chiefs.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Kiffin knew exactly what he was getting into...a boatload of money. Kiffin will get plenty more shots...and very few owners will hold this debacle against him...everyone knows how inept the Raiders have become.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Jay's source said that the old man blamed the head coach for today's loss. He then went on a long editorial about how they had a good game plan today, how the organization is a complete mess, and how the fallout is gonna be UGLY because most of the players like Kiffin. He did give the disclaimer that Al likes to change his mind, but Glazer would never go on record unless he had a 99.9% certainty that it wasn't BS.
They're reporting it on their update right now as well...he also talked about how his close friend Warren Sapp always raved about what a good guy Lane was, which is good first-hand insight, but also not surprising since Sapp has probably known Kiff since he was a teenager.
They're reporting it on their update right now as well...he also talked about how his close friend Warren Sapp always raved about what a good guy Lane was, which is good first-hand insight, but also not surprising since Sapp has probably known Kiff since he was a teenager.
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No. 16
Footballguy
Why didn't he just fire him in the off-season? Why do it 3 games into the season?
Sometimes I wonder why I'm a Raider fan.... Kiffin is the best coach we've had here since Gruden and probably will become a very good NFL head coach for anyone else but Al Davis.
Whowever the new coach is I hope they don't get rid of Tom Cable and teh ZBS because that's the only thing keeping us a float and our defense when they're not playing like little girls.
Sometimes I wonder why I'm a Raider fan.... Kiffin is the best coach we've had here since Gruden and probably will become a very good NFL head coach for anyone else but Al Davis.
Whowever the new coach is I hope they don't get rid of Tom Cable and teh ZBS because that's the only thing keeping us a float and our defense when they're not playing like little girls.
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SierraKiloBravo
Footballguy
Sadly, having Al Davis fire you is likely interpreted as a legitimate vote of confidence from the rest of the league. Al thnks Kiffin is crap, which in reality must mean that Kiffin is good. Al Davis is a complete joke.
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
LOL......considering the Raiders just handled the Chiefs, and then fired their coach, I would say KC is far below Oakland and it matters very little.Now, for Denver and San Diego...... yeah it might mean a little, but was Oakland gonna contend to begin with??The AFC West is a 2-team division in my mind...and not just for this season. Until Al Davis, Carl Peterson and Herman Edward leave, KC and Oakland are stuck.
kris
Footballguy
They lose at the buzzer to a very solid Buffalo team and that justifies pulling Kiffin? The Raiders look like they could have put 6-7 wins together the way they were rushing the ball.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How long until..... "ESPN's Chris Mortensen has learned Raiders coach Lane Kiffin will be fired."
SierraKiloBravo
Footballguy
I'm guessing about twelve hours after "Footballguy Raider Nation has learned that Lane Kiffin will be fired."
Twilight
Footballguy
I always hate to compliment the Raiders, but with a non-infighting coaching staff, they could have fought for a 8-8 season, IMO. Now, with Lofton as coach (Who I'm expecting), I'm betting on 3 wins.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Considering how hapless they looked against the Broncos in week 1, I have been surprised by how well they have played in the two games since, especially with all of the drama going on.
T Bell
Footballguy
Wat? Honestly, what grounds are there for optimism here?
RC94
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Speculation is starting up again about Kiffin going to Syracuse. As I've said before, why go from one bad situation to another? After he gets fired at Syracuse, maybe he can take over the Duke football program. Do the Washington Generals need a coach?
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
the not calling a time out at the end of the game was unforgivable.
Macho Camacho
Footballguy
Ooooh.... close."Sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Sunday that the Oakland Raiders owner intends to fire coach Lane Kiffin as early as Monday."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3601867
And for the record it was 2:11 a.m.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
UN! EFFING! REAL!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3601867No shame at all. Glazer had the source, Glazer had the scoop, and he broke it on FOX radio. ESPN is a joke.
EaglesNest
Footballguy
I thought the Rams coach was gonna be fired first
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
if you was defensive corridantor and knew u had a chance at the head job if you lost would you blow the win too?
Not if it was the Raiders head job.if you was defensive corridantor and knew u had a chance at the head job if you lost would you blow the win too?
massraider
Footballguy
Davis should have made the move last winter. If only to move on to the next guy.
Shed no tears for Kiffin, he made his play, raised his profile, and just skipped about 10 years of climbing the ladder. He gets a mulligan for the tenure, and credit for improving a lousy team. Davis will get ALL of the blame, and Kiffin will be seen as the bright young riser that had to put up with Davis. When in fact, the job never changed. Al never promised him something, and then not give it to him. Kiffin knew what he was getting into, then shuffled blame to anyone else except himself. He used the team for his own purposes, and Al being a senile old coot doesn't change that.
It was apparent when the Arkansas rumors started that Kiffin wasn't planning on sticking around, no matter what. Wish we could keep him, wish him well, but really, kind of like Gruden, he was always looking to the next job.
I will always believe that refusing to call a timeout on Sunday was Kiffin's final, "OK, now he has to fire me" move. And #### him for that.
Shed no tears for Kiffin, he made his play, raised his profile, and just skipped about 10 years of climbing the ladder. He gets a mulligan for the tenure, and credit for improving a lousy team. Davis will get ALL of the blame, and Kiffin will be seen as the bright young riser that had to put up with Davis. When in fact, the job never changed. Al never promised him something, and then not give it to him. Kiffin knew what he was getting into, then shuffled blame to anyone else except himself. He used the team for his own purposes, and Al being a senile old coot doesn't change that.
It was apparent when the Arkansas rumors started that Kiffin wasn't planning on sticking around, no matter what. Wish we could keep him, wish him well, but really, kind of like Gruden, he was always looking to the next job.
I will always believe that refusing to call a timeout on Sunday was Kiffin's final, "OK, now he has to fire me" move. And #### him for that.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
atleast its over
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
when al davis croaks on his deathbed, who will replace him? will the team pass to someone in his family or will someone else take over?
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Then you'd have whole division of ex-Raider (and current) coaches....That would be hilarious
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I wouldn't mind Kiffen to the Lions.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Ryan's D has been blowing leads for years, this is nothing new.if you was defensive corridantor and knew u had a chance at the head job if you lost would you blow the win too?
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
Scott Linehan really really needs to go. He can take Jim Haslett and Marc Bulger with him if he wants.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Just because he looks like the Crypt Keeper doesn't mean he's really dead.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
This is the best thing for Kiffen..he will get paid off, he will not have that lunatic Davis bird dogging his every move, and he will coach again. Maybe the Detroit Lions...lol
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
Don't be so sure about that. See: Shanahan, Mike.
T Bell
Footballguy
T Bell
Footballguy
Yeah, who here wants to defend Kiffin for wanting to leave that coaching Garden of Eden that is the Oakland Raiders? The irony of Al getting his Depends in a twist of coaches' lack of faithfulness is astounding and, I'm sure, completely lost on Al.
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T Bell
Footballguy
Not so fast, Lane. You've got to actually pry the money out of Davis' cold, dead fingers first.Kiffin on the news -->in front of Al Davis.
SharkBait
Footballguy
I heard a long diatribe from a caller on Sirius NFL radio pretty much giving Al Davis' side to the whole thing. He brought up a few bad calls draft and acquisition wise that were made but primarily reasoned that Kiffin gave signs he was ready to jump ship for a college coaching position and that once you demonstrated a lack of loyalty to the Raiders' organization, your days are numbered.It was a call in from a guy that basically sounded like a prepared speech. He didn't stay on the line to defend his arguments so there was no rebuttal. So I don't know if it was all accurate. Just the first time I've heard ANYONE defend Davis on this whole ordeal.
Hue G
Footballguy
Didn't see the game, what happened with the time out?
SharkBait
Footballguy
Last play of the game was winning FG, so I guess they wanted him to ice the kicker. I'm kind of torn on that one, but my gut says if in doubt go ahead and use the timeout just in case. Not doing so kind of makes you look like a quitter. Not good for the resume.
T Man
Footballguy
But with the Oakland Defense on the field, does Kiffin have the authority to call a timeout? Could be that Ryan has that authority since he has total control of the defense and the "ear" of Al Davis.As for Kiffin looking for another job, my guess is he did. He probably thought he would get a little slack as head coach, but that Ryan and the other Davis cronies undermined him even more then he imagined since he was so young. But don't shed a tear for Kiffin. He got a head coaching job on his resume and he may ultimately get paid by Davis. He'll be back with another team.
