Knee Defender™ (1 Viewer)

[moleculo]

When seated in a cramped airline seat, looking behind you and making a judgment call as to whether or not one can recline his seat without cramping the person behind is above and beyond common courtesy.

In fact, I'd argue that it's near impossible to make a proper judgment call regarding someone else's leg room.

If I do something that makes you uncomfortable and you don't say anything to me, I will be oblivious to your discomfort. If I was made aware of the situation, I would certainly move my seat up, no problem. However, if you retaliate by kicking my seat purposefully, you are now intentionally causing me discomfort, which makes you the bigger ****.

 

[BigJohn]

I can deal with the person who leans their seat back, but what about these people who think it's OK to just drop a fart on a crowded plane? Is there a product for that?

Febreeze?

 

[BigJohn]

When seated in a cramped airline seat, looking behind you and making a judgment call as to whether or not one can recline his seat without cramping the person behind is above and beyond common courtesy. In fact, I'd argue that it's near impossible to make a proper judgment call regarding someone else's leg room.If I do something that makes you uncomfortable and you don't say anything to me, I will be oblivious to your discomfort. If I was made aware of the situation, I would certainly move my seat up, no problem. However, if you retaliate by kicking my seat purposefully, you are now intentionally causing me discomfort, which makes you the bigger ****.

BULL####. Every bit of it.

 

[Sinn Fein]

When seated in a cramped airline seat, looking behind you and making a judgment call as to whether or not one can recline his seat without cramping the person behind is above and beyond common courtesy. In fact, I'd argue that it's near impossible to make a proper judgment call regarding someone else's leg room.If I do something that makes you uncomfortable and you don't say anything to me, I will be oblivious to your discomfort. If I was made aware of the situation, I would certainly move my seat up, no problem. However, if you retaliate by kicking my seat purposefully, you are now intentionally causing me discomfort, which makes you the bigger ****.

Please take this opportunity to eliminate your obliviousness. When you recline in your seat, you are creating discomfort for the person behind you.It is rude, and inconsiderate of you to recline your seat in almost all situations. Only a few that I can think of, would be First Class, and a red-eye from the west coast. Even in those situations, I make myself comfortable without reclining into the space of the person behind me. Its just a common courtesy imo.

 

[Osaurus]

This thread is peaking too early in the week.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I pretty much assume when I get on a flight that that the person in front of me is probably going to lean their seat back and I just need to deal with it....I'm 6'3"...it sucks....but that doesn't automatically make the person sitting in front of me an inconsiderate d-bag....heck I would like to put my seat back too....I look at it as though it is pretty much up to me to try and secure an emergency row seat or a seat in the first row if I want the room and don't want to worry about it.....

problem is, for some reason it is a "conversation" that really both sides want to avoid, because if I ask if it's ok that means I want to do it....so I have just put you in a tough spot where if you say "I'd rather you not" then you are a d-bag.....or if I just recline without asking and you ask me to move it back up and I say "I'd rather not" than I am the d-bag...

so really it is a battle of who doesn't want to be the first d-bag.....there are no winners...

 

[dfwboiler]

If you're going to recline your seat, a bit of warning would be nice.

I'm 6'3" and sometimes my knees are very close to the back of you seat. Hitting the recline button and going back as hard and fast as you can into my knees doesn't feel good. Then wondering why your seat isn't going back that far and trying to ram your seat back again also hurts. Give me a warning so I can move my knees out of the way... Also please don't recline back all the way or my knees will have no room and will be pushing into the back of your seat causing you discomfort.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I do agree that it is pretty much universal that if you recline your seat you are in some way putting the person behind you in discomfort, whether thats just personal space or whatever....unless it's just a small child or Snooki sitting behind you....

 

[shuke]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

When you do that, I am going to stick my knee up your ###, so that your back will be in even more pain from having invaded my space.Not many things more rude than a person who reclines the seat with no regard to the people around them.

you might try.ETA: why would you prefer to do this, as opposed to politely asking if I would position my seat up? what ever happened to civility? If I do something that makes you uncomfortable, IMO it's on you to seek redress. It's not on me to look behind me and ask if it's ok with you to recline.

"Civility"? You know damn well that NO ONE likes when the person in front of them reclines their seat, and your asking about civility?Yes, it is on you to ask if it's okay to invade someone's space.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

When seated in a cramped airline seat, looking behind you and making a judgment call as to whether or not one can recline his seat without cramping the person behind is above and beyond common courtesy. In fact, I'd argue that it's near impossible to make a proper judgment call regarding someone else's leg room.If I do something that makes you uncomfortable and you don't say anything to me, I will be oblivious to your discomfort. If I was made aware of the situation, I would certainly move my seat up, no problem. However, if you retaliate by kicking my seat purposefully, you are now intentionally causing me discomfort, which makes you the bigger ****.

You're trying to come off as the reasonable person now, but your earlier statement of your 'inalienable right' to recline your seat implied that you wouldn't care to accomodate someone who simply requested you not recline.I'm willing to go your route and concede that you should not be required to ask permission to recline, but if you decline to return your seat to its upright position after a polite request, then you (not you, you) deserve what you get.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

When you do that, I am going to stick my knee up your ###, so that your back will be in even more pain from having invaded my space.Not many things more rude than a person who reclines the seat with no regard to the people around them.

you might try.ETA: why would you prefer to do this, as opposed to politely asking if I would position my seat up? what ever happened to civility? If I do something that makes you uncomfortable, IMO it's on you to seek redress. It's not on me to look behind me and ask if it's ok with you to recline.

"Civility"? You know damn well that NO ONE likes when the person in front of them reclines their seat, and your asking about civility?Yes, it is on you to ask if it's okay to invade someone's space.

I disagree...I actually think everybody should go on the flight assuming the person in front of them will recline their seat....

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

Read the part about the stewardess. Skimmed that part about courtesy and respect. Perhaps you should have led with that part. The rest is very aggressive/passive aggressive.

 

[Rayderr]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

 

[Christo]

If you're going to recline your seat, a bit of warning would be nice.I'm 6'3" and sometimes my knees are very close to the back of you seat. Hitting the recline button and going back as hard and fast as you can into my knees doesn't feel good. Then wondering why your seat isn't going back that far and trying to ram your seat back again also hurts. Give me a warning so I can move my knees out of the way... Also please don't recline back all the way or my knees will have no room and will be pushing into the back of your seat causing you discomfort.

I just wedge my knees up against the seat so they can't even get started.

 

[Rayderr]

at people threatening to start #### on an airplane. That's probably the last place that you would want to start a physical confrontation.

I never said start a fight, but you would be told to take them off my seat

They're not on your seat. They're on the other person tray table.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I've kind of given up on expecting common courtesy from most people these days so I just assume the person in front of me will recline....before I recline I make the assessment, if I think it won't be an issue I recline....if I even think it might be a small issue, I don't....I don't even really want to ask because it puts the person I am asking in a tough spot.....

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

I can't tell you the number of accidents at the baggage claim the people that put their seat all the way back have. Oh I'm sorry did my steel cornered Samsonite just turn your shin into mother##### jelly? Enjoy your vacation hobbling around you dirty #####!

 

[moleculo]

When seated in a cramped airline seat, looking behind you and making a judgment call as to whether or not one can recline his seat without cramping the person behind is above and beyond common courtesy. In fact, I'd argue that it's near impossible to make a proper judgment call regarding someone else's leg room.If I do something that makes you uncomfortable and you don't say anything to me, I will be oblivious to your discomfort. If I was made aware of the situation, I would certainly move my seat up, no problem. However, if you retaliate by kicking my seat purposefully, you are now intentionally causing me discomfort, which makes you the bigger ****.

You're trying to come off as the reasonable person now, but your earlier statement of your 'inalienable right' to recline your seat implied that you wouldn't care to accomodate someone who simply requested you not recline.I'm willing to go your route and concede that you should not be required to ask permission to recline, but if you decline to return your seat to its upright position after a polite request, then you (not you, you) deserve what you get.

In my original post, I did state that I would move the seat up if requested. I've never said I would purposefully cause distress, and i'd agree that if one refused to move his seat up after being asked to, he would deserve to have his seat kicked.

 

[Wild Young Billy]

I usually point the air nozzle directly at the dude's head who puts his seat all the way back.

 

[cstu]

I've kind of given up on expecting common courtesy from most people these days so I just assume the person in front of me will recline....before I recline I make the assessment, if I think it won't be an issue I recline....if I even think it might be a small issue, I don't....I don't even really want to ask because it puts the person I am asking in a tough spot.....

How is it common courtesy to not put your seat back? I'm 6'4" and trying to sit straight up in coach on a long flight is a nightmare. If it bothers you, ask the person to switch places with you or lean your own seat back. BTW, even though I'm tall I'm liable to punch somebody to puts these on their seat.

 

[moleculo]

Maybe they should just outlaw reclining seats? Would that make y'all happy?

 

[Rayderr]

Maybe they should just outlaw reclining seats? Would that make y'all happy?

Actually, yes. But really, the way to go would be to change the way the seats recline. Instead of having it just lean the back of the seat back, have the base of the seat slide forward, pivoting the back of the seat to an angle. This way, if you want to recline, you take away you're own legroom, not the person's behind you.

 

[cstu]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

 

[mr fancypants]

If I wanted to recline, and you were using these, there would be a problem.

For you.

Not so much, I would take care of the "contraptions" myself if need be.

Good luck.

I guess I don't see what the problem is. Everytime I've seen or been part of a misunderstanding on a flight in regards to being able to recline, the stewardess always sides with the person wanting to recline. It's like what the seats were made for. I can understand the complaints from a courteous view point, but the airlines are going to side with the person wanting to recline.

 

[cstu]

Maybe they should just outlaw reclining seats? Would that make y'all happy?

Actually, yes. But really, the way to go would be to change the way the seats recline. Instead of having it just lean the back of the seat back, have the base of the seat slide forward, pivoting the back of the seat to an angle. This way, if you want to recline, you take away you're own legroom, not the person's behind you.

Blame the airlines for trying to cram as many people onto an airplane as inhumanely as possible, without regard for the fact that there may be someone over 5-8 on the airplane.

 

[Rayderr]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

I figure if you're inconsiderate enough to have your seat reclined before the people in the row behind you are even in, and ignore the stewardesses instructions, there's not going to be much of a chance of a civil discussion.

 

[Rayderr]

Maybe they should just outlaw reclining seats? Would that make y'all happy?

Actually, yes. But really, the way to go would be to change the way the seats recline. Instead of having it just lean the back of the seat back, have the base of the seat slide forward, pivoting the back of the seat to an angle. This way, if you want to recline, you take away you're own legroom, not the person's behind you.

Blame the airlines for trying to cram as many people onto an airplane as inhumanely as possible, without regard for the fact that there may be someone over 5-8 on the airplane.

I'd rather the airlines just remove that last row of seats, spread the rest of the rows out, and charge everyone $5 or whatever more.

 

[Dr. Gobbler]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

Why don't you giant ####### people buy a business class or first class ticket?Do you sleep in a twin bed inside a hamsters #### as well?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I've kind of given up on expecting common courtesy from most people these days so I just assume the person in front of me will recline....before I recline I make the assessment, if I think it won't be an issue I recline....if I even think it might be a small issue, I don't....I don't even really want to ask because it puts the person I am asking in a tough spot.....

How is it common courtesy to not put your seat back? I'm 6'4" and trying to sit straight up in coach on a long flight is a nightmare. If it bothers you, ask the person to switch places with you or lean your own seat back. BTW, even though I'm tall I'm liable to punch somebody to puts these on their seat.

I think it is pretty much a given that nobody likes to have the person in front of them recline their seat....ask a 100 people and I'd bet all of them would say given the choice, they would prefer the person in front of them not recline....but as I mentioned if it bothers me so much, I think it is up to me to do something about it....whether that is pre flight or initiating the conversation.....I choose to make the assessment before reclining, but I don't neccessarily think it is an obligation....common courtesy, yes....but an obligation....no...

 

[cstu]

"Civility"? You know damn well that NO ONE likes when the person in front of them reclines their seat, and your asking about civility?Yes, it is on you to ask if it's okay to invade someone's space.

I expect the person in front of me to recline their seat back and I expect to recline my seat back. It all works out. The one tip I would give recliners is to go to Seatguru.com before choosing your seat and make sure you don't get one in front of a seat that doesn't recline.

 

[bigbottom]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

She sounds like a major bizzatch. That said, shoot the lock off your wallet and buy your two-year-old a seat.

 

[BigJohn]

In the end, it's absolutely, not "above and beyond" common courtesy to simply look back, asses the situation and determine if it's appropriate to lean your seat back. If there are no obvious problems, it's on the other person to ask you to not lean back. Just assuming it's clear and leaning back is a major league #### move.

 

[Rayderr]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

Why don't you giant ####### people buy a business class or first class ticket?Do you sleep in a twin bed inside a hamsters #### as well?

1. No business class on commuter flights.2. Charging people for something they have some control (i.e. weight) is ok, but to charge extra for something they don't have control over (height, race) is ludicrous. 3. If they'd reserve the exit rows for the taller people, it would resolve a lot of this.

 

[Rayderr]

"Civility"?

You know damn well that NO ONE likes when the person in front of them reclines their seat, and your asking about civility?

Yes, it is on you to ask if it's okay to invade someone's space.

I expect the person in front of me to recline their seat back and I expect to recline my seat back. It all works out. The one tip I would give recliners is to go to Seatguru.com before choosing your seat and make sure you don't get one in front of a seat that doesn't recline.

How does it "all work out"? Leaning my seat back isn't going to get me my leg room back.

 

[Jewell]

at people threatening to start #### on an airplane. That's probably the last place that you would want to start a physical confrontation.

Mitt Romney threw down on a plane. He even applied a "Vulcan grip" on the guy.And it was for a fitting reason...

The Republican politician was sitting in the economy section waiting for the plane to take off when the incident occurred. The man sitting in front of Mr. Romney's wife dropped his seat back and when Mr. Romney asked him to move it upright for takeoff, the man became "physically violent."

 

[cstu]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

I figure if you're inconsiderate enough to have your seat reclined before the people in the row behind you are even in, and ignore the stewardesses instructions, there's not going to be much of a chance of a civil discussion.

I normally lean my seat back to the first (least recline position) once the plane starts to move and then lean it back right after takeoff. Obviously I wouldn't do it while people were still getting to their seats or on a small plane like that. I'm not trying to be a #### but it's just uncomfortable being tall and sitting straight up in those seats.

 

[marshall88]

I'll recline in my seat without asking the person behind me if it's o.k. But, if the person behind me politely asks me not to recline, I'd be happy to oblige. If they're rude or if they use those locking devices, I'll just call the stewardess over and let them handle the situation. I also don't care if the person in front of me reclines their seat.

For those of you who think it's rude when someone reclines their seat, or can't sit comfortably when the seat in front of you is reclined - you need to buy a business/first class ticket or make sure you get first row or exit row seats. You already know that airline seats recline, so don't act surprised when someone in front of you reclines their seat.

Edit to add: I always put my seat up during in-flight meals.

Another slightly related airline courtesy issue - On my last flight, the woman in front of me stowed her large purse underneath her seat (not the seat in front of her), thus taking away my legroom. Then she was offended when I asked her to move her purse underneath the seat in front of her, because that space was already taken by her other carry-on bag.

 

[cstu]

"Civility"?

You know damn well that NO ONE likes when the person in front of them reclines their seat, and your asking about civility?

Yes, it is on you to ask if it's okay to invade someone's space.

I expect the person in front of me to recline their seat back and I expect to recline my seat back. It all works out. The one tip I would give recliners is to go to Seatguru.com before choosing your seat and make sure you don't get one in front of a seat that doesn't recline.

How does it "all work out"? Leaning my seat back isn't going to get me my leg room back.

Being 6-5 you're never going to have any legroom anyway. Try finding a seat behind a kid or someone who doesn't have a need to recline their seat.Thanks for the thread though, I was never aware of the reclining issue. I'm flying on Thursday and will make sure to ask the person behind me if they mind if I recline it.

 

[Sheriff66]

I say complain to the airline, they put seats in that recline for a reason, if you are worried about being cramped, pay for first class.

 

[cstu]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

Why don't you giant ####### people buy a business class or first class ticket?Do you sleep in a twin bed inside a hamsters #### as well?

1. No business class on commuter flights.2. Charging people for something they have some control (i.e. weight) is ok, but to charge extra for something they don't have control over (height, race) is ludicrous.

3. If they'd reserve the exit rows for the taller people, it would resolve a lot of this.

This one really bothers me. If you're 5-6 and can fit into a regular seat just fine, don't get the exit row when there are tall people who could really use it.

 

[shuke]

What do those seats recline, 3 inches? I can understand if you are in the 6'3"+ range but c'mon.

For me it's not my height, but rather losing space to work on my laptop. Too crammed when person in front of me reclines.

 

[Jayded]

This was something that's always bothered me (people reclining into me), but the more I traveled the people who can't put their luggage above themselves drives me nuts even more. That especially goes to those people who sit in the back of the plane and decide to put their bag in row 11 even when there is room at the back of the plane for their bag. Then I get on with the last group and shockingly row 11 has no room and I have to check my bag or waltz all the way to the rear of the plane.

 

[bigbottom]

This was something that's always bothered me (people reclining into me), but the more I traveled the people who can't put their luggage above themselves drives me nuts even more. That especially goes to those people who sit in the back of the plane and decide to put their bag in row 11 even when there is room at the back of the plane for their bag. Then I get on with the last group and shockingly row 11 has no room and I have to check my bag or waltz all the way to the rear of the plane.

This was on my air travel pet peeve list of 2008:

GB biggie. I'd like to see that flying pet peeves list.

They are countless. Just off the top of my head, and in no particular order . . . 1) Kids in the row ahead of you that turn around in their seat and stare at you over the seat back.2) People who board early because they have seats in the back, but put their luggage in the front overheads so they don't have to carry them all the way to the back (thus screwing the later boarders who are actually seated in the front).3) People in the row behind you that have to pull on the back of your seat in order to haul themselves up out of their seat.4) Similarly, people that have to use the seat backs has handholds as they walk down the aisle (even when there isn't a lick of turbulence).5) People who bring smelly food onto the plane (tuna fish alert), particularly when it's an entire meal.6) People who refuse to switch seats to allow couples or family members to sit next to one another, even when the move wouldn't result in any less desirable a seat (note: I've never had to ask anyone to switch, but have happily switched at the request of others).7) People who brazenly violate the carry-on rules.8) Parents who bring DVD players for their kids without headphones.9) People at the back of the plane who try to haul ### up to the front after landing the second the seat belt light goes out.

 

[shuke]

This one really bothers me. If you're 5-6 and can fit into a regular seat just fine, don't get the exit row when there are tall people who could really use it.

Aren't the exit rows open to everyone? Get the airport earlier or rack up the miles. I expect everyone who is flying to know the rules, and I expect everyone to try to get the exit row seats if possible.

 

[bigbottom]

This one really bothers me. If you're 5-6 and can fit into a regular seat just fine, don't get the exit row when there are tall people who could really use it.

Aren't the exit rows open to everyone? Get the airport earlier or rack up the miles. I expect everyone who is flying to know the rules, and I expect everyone to try to get the exit row seats if possible.

But I thought the issue was courtesy? I don't think there's a rule against reclining your seat.

 

[Reaper]

Maybe I find sitting in an unreclined airline seat extremely uncomfortable, to the point of causing me back pain?It's my position that reclining my seat is my God-given, unalienable right, and any device preventing me from doing so is intruding on my rights.I will routinely, and unapologetically, recline my seat to the furthest extent as soon as possible, and won't move it back to the upright position until the stewardess instructs me to. If that's a problem for someone sitting behind me, and they were to ask politely that I not do as such, I will comply with of courtesy and respect. However, any attempt to prevent me form reclining without prior consent will be met with complaints to the stewardesses, dirty looks, and any other assorted passive-aggressive behaviors I can come up with.If it's that big of a deal to you long-legged-mack-daddies, I'd suggest you sit only in exit rows or in the front row where there are no seats in front of you.

Oh.I'm Reclining my seat.... And yeah, it hurts my back otherwise.I'm over 6ft and never had an issue with the person in front of me reclining.... If you're much bigger than that then it's your problem and you should do whatever you can to get an exit row or swap with someone else.MY SEAT was made to recline and that's what I paid for.BTW - my sister is a pilot for Continental who just happened to call - She says this is TOTAL BS!!!!!! I't syour seat - YOU RECLINE!!!! At 1st she went to the extreme of kicking some #### #### #### off her plane who tried to pull this... But, I'm not sure that would fly...

 

[jamny]

If you're going to recline your seat, a bit of warning would be nice.I'm 6'3" and sometimes my knees are very close to the back of you seat. Hitting the recline button and going back as hard and fast as you can into my knees doesn't feel good. Then wondering why your seat isn't going back that far and trying to ram your seat back again also hurts. Give me a warning so I can move my knees out of the way... Also please don't recline back all the way or my knees will have no room and will be pushing into the back of your seat causing you discomfort.

This was always my issue. At 6'3" my knees were always in the back of the seat to begin with. There is no reason to just slam the seat back without warning. A little glance back and slowly recline is appreciated. Those that would slam back would eventually move up after my knees would push the seat for a half hour or so. It's just a matter of being respectful. We only fly if we can afford business or first with money/miles. On the rare times we have to fly coach, our preferred status lets us get the exit aisles in advance or we get the first row.

 

[Reaper]

People who recline their seats on airplanes are inconsiderate ####s with no regard to anyone around them.

Last year, flew the kids to Maui. On the 5+ hour flight back from Maui to LA, this uppity old ##### in the seat in front of my wife had the audacity to lean her seat all the way back on my wife who was holding my 2 year old son. Then, on top of that, had the nerve to keep looking back and grunting every time he touched her seat. I have never gone MOP in public, but I still regret, to this day, not giving that #### an epic earful.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

When the seat is crammed in his face, he has nowhere to go. You want relaxing room, buy 1st class.

Fine, but there is not much worse than having a kid continuously bump your seat. And on a 5+ flight? Brutal.

But, do you think leaning your seat back is a constructive way to help the situation?

can you give me an example of a constructive way to help the situation?

Using your brain. "Well, she is holding a kid, so maybe I will be courteous an leave my seat upright. Also, there will be less chance he will hit my seat and disrupt me. Win - win." Basically, don't be an ###hole.

After 2 years old, that kid should have his own seat for safety alone and with the arm rest up you should be swimming with space and not bothering the person in front of you.

 

[moleculo]

This one really bothers me. If you're 5-6 and can fit into a regular seat just fine, don't get the exit row when there are tall people who could really use it.

Aren't the exit rows open to everyone? Get the airport earlier or rack up the miles. I expect everyone who is flying to know the rules, and I expect everyone to try to get the exit row seats if possible.

Out of courtesy, I typically do not take an exit row seat, even if available. I know that someone needs legroom more than me.

 

[Christo]

I actually have a pair of these. Only had to use them once (granted I don't fly very much.) Most people are considerate of the 6'5 man behind them. But on one small commuter flight (DC to Columbus) the guy didn't give a ####. Had his seat reclined before we even left the gate. Stewardess asked him once to put his seat upright for takeoff, as soon as she turned around, he reclined back again. Got told again seat in the upright position. I placed my hand on the back of his seat to prevent him from reclining again. Took off, I quickly put the tray table down and wedge them in. He tries to recline but can't. Surprisingly, he never said a word.

I do this too but it's never my intention to bother anybody. I would appreciate someone mentioning it to me politely instead of using one of these devices so we can work something out. There's no need to get all passive-aggressive with a pair of these. Besides if you're 6-5 most people aren't going to give you any trouble if you tell them it's causing you a problem.

I figure if you're inconsiderate enough to have your seat reclined before the people in the row behind you are even in, and ignore the stewardesses instructions, there's not going to be much of a chance of a civil discussion.

I normally lean my seat back to the first (least recline position) once the plane starts to move and then lean it back right after takeoff. Obviously I wouldn't do it while people were still getting to their seats or on a small plane like that. I'm not trying to be a #### but it's just uncomfortable being tall and sitting straight up in those seats.

It doesn't bother me.