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PHILADELPHIA -- Philadelphia Eagles running back LeSean McCoy refused to retract his online comment disparaging Denver Broncos running back Knowshon Moreno on Wednesday, three days after tweeting "Knowshon sucks" during the game Sunday between the Dallas Cowboys and Broncos.

In fact, he doubled down.

"What I said is what I meant," McCoy said, who added that he didn't regret the remark, either.

McCoy opened his comments Wednesday with a grin and a few words about his counterpart for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, this week's opponent.

"I just wanted to say I think Doug Martin is a heck of a running back," he said. "He's one of the better running backs, for sure."
 
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I'd be upset too if I got beat by 30+ points by Moreno's team.

 
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I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
I'm the opposite. I'm always impressed with the guys short on the physical tools (speed, size) but still able to produce with grit and determination. That HUGE chip in his shoulder doesn't hurt.

 
I like that Moreno took the high road, showed a lot of maturity, he has the right mindset at the moment. I am really shocked at how Moreno has turned it around even if it is the addition of all this talent.

 
A lot of what Moreno is doing is based on the fact that he's the trusted veteran getting the carries in a Peyton Manning offense, yeah.

But he's also obviously proving to be a late bloomer. He looks really good out there. He's breaking tackles, running really smart, showing great situational awareness. He's probably not going to be busting off 50+ yard highlight runs often, but he's doing his job and doing it well.

Of course he's not LeSean McCoy. But McCoy proves to be classless here. I love me some McCoy, but when you're losing, just shut up about players on winning teams. No matter how much less talented they are. It never looks good to bitterly talk down about people who have what anyone would want--success.

 
A lot of what Moreno is doing is based on the fact that he's the trusted veteran getting the carries in a Peyton Manning offense, yeah.

But he's also obviously proving to be a late bloomer. He looks really good out there. He's breaking tackles, running really smart, showing great situational awareness. He's probably not going to be busting off 50+ yard highlight runs often, but he's doing his job and doing it well.

Of course he's not LeSean McCoy. But McCoy proves to be classless here. I love me some McCoy, but when you're losing, just shut up about players on winning teams. No matter how much less talented they are. It never looks good to bitterly talk down about people who have what anyone would want--success.
Excellent post. I have never been a big Knowshon fan, but I have to disagree with the suggestion that Moreno has been nothing special; he is playing some very good football, and as ConnSKINS26 pointed out, Moreno is playing smart.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Spoken like a true Ball owner.

He won't sniff the field unless Moreno is not on it.

Moreno is the clear horse for the Broncos this season. And rightfully so. He looks like a veteran who has the complete trust of his QB.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Obviously Didn't Watch The Last Game
Pretty silly to make such accusations, and that surely doesn't contribute to the conversation. If you watched the game and loved what you saw, please post that here. I am just posting my opinion based on what I saw.

I re-watched every snap last night. He barrels into the line with a head of steam, often has HUGE lanes and gets the yards. Very little wiggle or creativity. This is nothing new. I think his production is merely a function of that offense. If Lance Ball or someone like Bilal Powell got those carries, they would do the same with them.

 
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Considering McCoy is a deadbeat dad who abuses women, is anyone surprised that class is something he lacks?
Something that Moreno has had his entire football career. I am not surprised he did not bother to respond to such garbage.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Spoken like a true Ball owner.

He won't sniff the field unless Moreno is not on it.

Moreno is the clear horse for the Broncos this season. And rightfully so. He looks like a veteran who has the complete trust of his QB.
Pretty useless accusation. I don't own Lance Ball, or know why anyone would. I am just stating what I saw with Moreno, and have seen in the past with Lance Ball.

I agree that Knowshown is a veteran who's value is due to the fact that he protects the ball and Manning. I have other posts here stating he was the likely starter this year due to that fact. But, he looks not much different than Addai did in his last couple of years.

So, does he suck? No. Noone starting in the NFL does. But he's not a special back. He's a lunch-pail guy that DEN can count on and yes, should keep that starting job until someone else shows they can do what he does.

 
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Shady is a great player but a complete moron as a person.

When I heard about this my reaction was, "Shady being Shady" and wasn't surprised one bit.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Obviously Didn't Watch The Last Game
Pretty silly to make such accusations, and that surely doesn't contribute to the conversation. If you watched the game and loved what you saw, please post that here. I am just posting my opinion based on what I saw.

I re-watched every snap last night. He barrels into the line with a head of steam, often has HUGE lanes and gets the yards. Very little wiggle or creativity. This is nothing new. I think his production is merely a function of that offense. If Lance Ball or someone like Bilal Powell got those carries, they would do the same with them.
That is a silly accusation.

You watched and re-watched the game...you obviously just don't know much about RB talent.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Spoken like a true Ball owner.

He won't sniff the field unless Moreno is not on it.

Moreno is the clear horse for the Broncos this season. And rightfully so. He looks like a veteran who has the complete trust of his QB.
Pretty useless accusation. I don't own Lance Ball, or know why anyone would. I am just stating what I saw with Moreno, and have seen in the past with Lance Ball.
:whoosh: He was talking about Monte Ball. You sound like a Monte Ball owner who thinks the more talented RB is not on the field. C'mon man.

 
I have not been impressed with Moreno. He runs hard, but he looks slow and doesn't seem that special. Lance Ball could get the yards Moreno is getting.
Obviously Didn't Watch The Last Game
Pretty silly to make such accusations, and that surely doesn't contribute to the conversation. If you watched the game and loved what you saw, please post that here. I am just posting my opinion based on what I saw.I re-watched every snap last night. He barrels into the line with a head of steam, often has HUGE lanes and gets the yards. Very little wiggle or creativity. This is nothing new. I think his production is merely a function of that offense. If Lance Ball or someone like Bilal Powell got those carries, they would do the same with them.
What kind of "wiggle or creativity" would you like to see when he has "huge lanes" to run through. Seems to me that the best backs "barrel into the line with a head of steam" when there are "huge lanes".

 
McCoy is still bitter from Moreno being the 1st RB taken in 2009. Moreno's rookie contract was worth like 17mil, and McCoy was only 3-4 mil iirc. McCoy has since re-up'd for 20mil or so, but one could see why he is bitter. He has been a much better RB but financially isn't that far ahead.

 
The only thing Moreno sucks at is letting down his fantasy owners this year. If that is what sucks looks like I want 5-6 rbs who SUCK on my roster ASAP

ETA: He is RB9 in one of my leagues rt now. That means he is a SOLID RB1. and that ain't changing any time soon barring injury. He is the most complete back on that roster and protects manning wonderfully.

McCoy should stop worrying about Moreno's career and start worrying about his team, which TRULY sucks.

 
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The only thing Moreno sucks at is letting down his fantasy owners this year. If that is what sucks looks like I want 5-6 rbs who SUCK on my roster ASAP

ETA: He is RB9 in one of my leagues rt now. That means he is a SOLID RB1. and that ain't changing any time soon barring injury. He is the most complete back on that roster and protects manning wonderfully.

McCoy should stop worrying about Moreno's career and start worrying about his team, which TRULY sucks.
yeah thats all fine but knowshon still sucks , shady has earned the right to be judge of that

people have short memories , this guy was arguably one of the worst rb in nfl before manning showed up... coincidence huh

 
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The only thing Moreno sucks at is letting down his fantasy owners this year. If that is what sucks looks like I want 5-6 rbs who SUCK on my roster ASAP

ETA: He is RB9 in one of my leagues rt now. That means he is a SOLID RB1. and that ain't changing any time soon barring injury. He is the most complete back on that roster and protects manning wonderfully.

McCoy should stop worrying about Moreno's career and start worrying about his team, which TRULY sucks.
yeah thats all fine but knowshon still sucks , shady has earned the right to be judge of thatpeople have short memories , this guy was arguably one of the worst rb in nfl before manning showed up... coincidence huh
"Shady" hasn't earned a freakin thing in this league. He was good 2 yrs ago and sucked last year. More importantly his team sucks and that should be his only concern right now. Loser.

 
McCoy is still bitter from Moreno being the 1st RB taken in 2009. Moreno's rookie contract was worth like 17mil, and McCoy was only 3-4 mil iirc. McCoy has since re-up'd for 20mil or so, but one could see why he is bitter. He has been a much better RB but financially isn't that far ahead.
Nail on the head here... He's resented Moreno for a long time.

 
RBM said:
jojoh07 said:
The only thing Moreno sucks at is letting down his fantasy owners this year. If that is what sucks looks like I want 5-6 rbs who SUCK on my roster ASAP

ETA: He is RB9 in one of my leagues rt now. That means he is a SOLID RB1. and that ain't changing any time soon barring injury. He is the most complete back on that roster and protects manning wonderfully.

McCoy should stop worrying about Moreno's career and start worrying about his team, which TRULY sucks.
yeah thats all fine but knowshon still sucks , shady has earned the right to be judge of thatpeople have short memories , this guy was arguably one of the worst rb in nfl before manning showed up... coincidence huh
"Shady" hasn't earned a freakin thing in this league. He was good 2 yrs ago and sucked last year. More importantly his team sucks and that should be his only concern right now. Loser.
Excellent point.

 
Considering McCoy is a deadbeat dad who abuses women, is anyone surprised that class is something he lacks?
Best post of the thread. Guy is a scumbag.

As for the players, there is obv. no comparison. Which is yet another checkmark in the "RBs don't matter much & Browns made a good trade" column.

 
A lot of what Moreno is doing is based on the fact that he's the trusted veteran getting the carries in a Peyton Manning offense, yeah.

But he's also obviously proving to be a late bloomer. He looks really good out there. He's breaking tackles, running really smart, showing great situational awareness. He's probably not going to be busting off 50+ yard highlight runs often, but he's doing his job and doing it well.

Of course he's not LeSean McCoy. But McCoy proves to be classless here. I love me some McCoy, but when you're losing, just shut up about players on winning teams. No matter how much less talented they are. It never looks good to bitterly talk down about people who have what anyone would want--success.
I'm an avowed Knowshon Moreno hater, and most here know it. With that said, Knowshon Moreno has never in his career looked anywhere as good as he looks right now. He's not Shady McCoy, but he is a genuine, bona fide, certified, GOOD runningback right now. Not a placeholder who's getting snaps because he can block and just taking advantage of 6-man boxes (which is what he was at the end of last year).

Honestly, I think Moreno's playing well enough that I think Denver's going to have a bit of a decision on its hands after this season as to whether they want to pick up the club option and keep him around next year. I never thought I'd see the day. Clearly, that was a failure of imagination on my part.

 

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