KO Moreno -- Best total package back since Faulk IMO (1 Viewer)

[The Moz]

I watch a lot of SEC football and this guy really has every single element you want in a top flight runner.

Rushing - has good cuts / moves , great game speed even if it didn't show on a stop watch , runs with power and will be a great shorty back as he runs with a mean streak in short yardage like beast mode.

Receiver - already known as a exceptional receiver for a RB and can catch as good ( or close ) as most 3rd down back in the league.

Blocking - a great blocker that enjoys it. Known for not shying away from blocking in pass protection. This puts him a step on almost every rookie back coming back as that's always the biggest issue.

Got great stats in the toughest conference to run in college football.

Only weakness in his game really is he doesn't do well with a stop watch. I think he 40 times at 4.56 - but in Game time situation watching him i saw him run away from almost everyone which is why his 40 time shocked many - so i don't know how much stock I really put in his 40 time.

I just love his total game - Like Faulk came right into the league as a total package back able to do everything. KO might not be another Faulk that's tough as Faulk is a first ballot HOFer and other than Sanders one of the best open field runners I have ever seen.

This guy will be going mid to late 4th in redrafts maybe as late as early 5th. IMO at least drafting this guy then will help many teams win their leagues or at least do well.

 

[Native]

Thats actually a great comparison. Hes slightly slower in the open field, but otherwise its a fair point. In the first 5-10 yards, Moreno is just as explosive as Faulk. And thats where plays develop...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Took him at the 3.12 in the SSL1 Survivor draft(16 teams) going on now over in the Mock Draft Forum...I'm not delusional but he was the 1st RB I took off the board and I think he will definitely be in the mix for top20 RBs. I do feel the coaching in Denver is going to want to showcase this guy to show everyone they know what they're doing. Will it payoff? We'll see.

 

[Banger]

No offense but I see these every year...Bush is the best since...Peterson is the best since...Moreno is the best since...

 

[shredhead]

Took him at the 3.12 in the SSL1 Survivor draft(16 teams) going on now over in the Mock Draft Forum...I'm not delusional but he was the 1st RB I took off the board and I think he will definitely be in the mix for top20 RBs. I do feel the coaching in Denver is going to want to showcase this guy to show everyone they know what they're doing. Will it payoff? We'll see.

I did my first mock of the season at fantasy footballcalculator.com last night and took RB's with my first 4 picks (DeAngelo,Portis,Grant,Pierre) My WR's sucked, but my point is that there are good RB's to be had later and if you go WR or QB early Moreno might be a great pick later as your RB2. Moreno was the 64th pick in that mock.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Actually the correct thread title should be "Moreno--Best total package back since Westbrook IMO"

 

[mikel0254]

Took him at the 3.12 in the SSL1 Survivor draft(16 teams) going on now over in the Mock Draft Forum...I'm not delusional but he was the 1st RB I took off the board and I think he will definitely be in the mix for top20 RBs. I do feel the coaching in Denver is going to want to showcase this guy to show everyone they know what they're doing. Will it payoff? We'll see.

I did my first mock of the season at fantasy footballcalculator.com last night and took RB's with my first 4 picks (DeAngelo,Portis,Grant,Pierre) My WR's sucked, but my point is that there are good RB's to be had later and if you go WR or QB early Moreno might be a great pick later as your RB2. Moreno was the 64th pick in that mock.

It's still early. If you're drafting around August or early September, he will be going much higher than 64th. People are always enamored with rookie RB's and tend to reach for them too often. That said, I think Moreno will be a viable RB2 this year, which means someone will try to reach for him as a high RB2 or low RB1 by the end of the summer (assuming all signs point to him starting)

 

[switz]

No offense but I see these every year...Bush is the best since...Peterson is the best since...Moreno is the best since...

In my opinion the closest thing to Faulk was drafted last year by Dallas. There are good RBs that come out, but their skillsets don't necessarily pair up with Faulks. Peterson may be the best runner in a long time, but I'd never compare him to Faulk, maybe Dickerson.

 

[Banger]

No offense but I see these every year...Bush is the best since...Peterson is the best since...Moreno is the best since...

In my opinion the closest thing to Faulk was drafted last year by Dallas. There are good RBs that come out, but their skillsets don't necessarily pair up with Faulks. Peterson may be the best runner in a long time, but I'd never compare him to Faulk, maybe Dickerson.

Choice?

 

[Sweet Love]

LT down?

 

[bcr8f]

Better than LT and Adrian Peterson?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

 

[Routilla]

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[Kleck]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Nothing biased about it. There are lots of unbiased people that would agree with you, and I'm one of them.

 

[switz]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Nothing biased about it. There are lots of unbiased people that would agree with you, and I'm one of them.

Agreed... Marshall had better moves and top end speed than LT, but LT had far more power, just as good hands, and was only minutely slower.

 

[The Moz]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Nothing biased about it. There are lots of unbiased people that would agree with you, and I'm one of them.

Agreed... Marshall had better moves and top end speed than LT, but LT had far more power, just as good hands, and was only minutely slower.

Sorry but LT was/is nothing close to marshall as far as being a receiver. Marshall is at his peak the best receiver RB I ever saw and thats including Walter and Westy.

 

[mggoilers]

Maybe it's the jersey number, but when I watch Moreno I see Cadillac Williams.

Is this unfair?

Waldman, i know you are in Athens...do they compare or do I have a mental block when it comes to Moreno?

Caddy as a rookie vs. Moreno

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[Tigerbot Hesh]

 

[switz]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Nothing biased about it. There are lots of unbiased people that would agree with you, and I'm one of them.

Agreed... Marshall had better moves and top end speed than LT, but LT had far more power, just as good hands, and was only minutely slower.

Sorry but LT was/is nothing close to marshall as far as being a receiver. Marshall is at his peak the best receiver RB I ever saw and thats including Walter and Westy.

LT has great hands... he's not as good at WR positions as Faulk, no, but it doesn't mean he's less good as a pass catching RB out of the backfield. I would probably rank the top pass catching RBs in this order:

Faulk

Westbrook

LT

Thurman Thomas

There are some other RBs that are good pass catchers (a la Larry Centers, Kevin Faulk) though I don't include them because they don't play a traditional RB role, they are more specialists than RBs

 

[bostonfred]

No offense but I see these every year...Bush is the best since...Peterson is the best since...Moreno is the best since...

Um, Bush and Peterson both had awesome rookie years.

 

[jbz]

Maybe it's the jersey number, but when I watch Moreno I see Cadillac Williams.Is this unfair?Waldman, i know you are in Athens...do they compare or do I have a mental block when it comes to Moreno?Caddy as a rookie vs. Moreno?

That's what came to my mind when I started reading this thread.

 

[millertyme1]

Maybe it's the jersey number, but when I watch Moreno I see Cadillac Williams.Is this unfair?Waldman, i know you are in Athens...do they compare or do I have a mental block when it comes to Moreno?Caddy as a rookie vs. Moreno?

Agree 100%. You likely will get called out on this comparison (since injuries have derailed Caddy's career & performance wise in general he didn't meet the expectations) but it's the guy I compare Moreno to also.

 

[Matt Waldman]

mggoilers: the first guy I thought of when I watched Moreno run was Williams. People easily forget what Williams was like at Auburn and why he made a coach like Gruden gush over him.

The RSP has Williams along the spectrum of backs I compare with Moreno.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think Moreno compares to Williams almost to a tee. Both have the exact same height/weight on the EXACT same build (thin through the mid-section with huge guns to raise their listed weight). Both look like they should be little elusive guys that rely on making people miss, but actually ran with a surprising amount of power in college. If you watch their college games they run through people as much as they run around them. In short, they both have the mindset that they have a ton of power, but don't have the body type to back it up.

I thought this was a plus for Cadillac coming out of college, that people underrated his power. What happened though is that that power just wasn't there to the same extent against NFL defenders. In college, having the mindset of a big guy is enough to run through tackles. In the pros, you actually need the body type to back it up.

Moreno has better vision and RB instincts than Caddy, but slightly less elusiveness. Other than that they are nearly identical.

 

[Sweet Love]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Nothing biased about it. There are lots of unbiased people that would agree with you, and I'm one of them.

Agreed... Marshall had better moves and top end speed than LT, but LT had far more power, just as good hands, and was only minutely slower.

Sorry but LT was/is nothing close to marshall as far as being a receiver. Marshall is at his peak the best receiver RB I ever saw and thats including Walter and Westy.

While this may or may not be true (and it probably is), Faulk on the other hand, could not hold a candle to LT's running abilities.

 

[Traders2001]

I compare him to Cadillac Williams , same type of player .

He will be good but not great .

 

[bcr8f]

While this may or may not be true (and it probably is), Faulk on the other hand, could not hold a candle to LT's running abilities.

Faulk couldn't hold a candle to LT as a runner? He could stop and cut on a dime in his prime. They were comparable. I don't mind disagreements but to say he couldn't hold a candle is Faulk could also line up as a WR and often did confounding defenses. Bush is the only other RB in recent memory that could do that as well. Moreno is good but not as good as either because he doesn't have the top end sped.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

In 25 years of watching NFL/college football, the best RB I ever saw was Barry, followed by Faulk and LT as 2a. and 2b., in my mind. Moreno looks very good, IMO, but not in the same stratosphere as Faulk. As everyone says, he is comparable to Caddy coming out of Auburn, although, to be honest, I was always a bit more impressed w/Caddy than KnoMo. Of course, caddy had a superior college RB sharing the load. Moreno is going to be given every opportunity to show if he's a stud. If he ends up being half as good as Faulk that would be excellent.

 

[kremenull]

I think Moreno compares to Williams almost to a tee. Both have the exact same height/weight on the EXACT same build (thin through the mid-section with huge guns to raise their listed weight). Both look like they should be little elusive guys that rely on making people miss, but actually ran with a surprising amount of power in college. If you watch their college games they run through people as much as they run around them. In short, they both have the mindset that they have a ton of power, but don't have the body type to back it up.I thought this was a plus for Cadillac coming out of college, that people underrated his power. What happened though is that that power just wasn't there to the same extent against NFL defenders. In college, having the mindset of a big guy is enough to run through tackles. In the pros, you actually need the body type to back it up.Moreno has better vision and RB instincts than Caddy, but slightly less elusiveness. Other than that they are nearly identical.

Excellent analysis. I'm hearing all this hype about Moreno is the best back since LT, Faulk, comparisons to Payton, etc. Please, stop this nonsense as the guy is pretty talented and all, works hard, and will probably be productive, especially for fantasy leaguers. But c'mon, this kid is nothing special by any means with regards to pure physical talent. LT and Faulk possessed far greater physical ability than Moreno, which helped them maximize their effectiveness. Not everyone has the desire, drive, will, and all other intangibles to be a Walter Payton and reach their absolute maximum potential. And with this receiving comparison, sure, I've seen enough of Moreno to say that yes, he should be a very good receiving RB in the NFL. But I can name about 4-5 young RBs in the league right now who are probably better receivers out of the backfield than Moreno.....one is in his own draft class1. Matt Forte2. Reggie Bush3. Darren McFadden 4. MJD5. Steve Slaton6. LeSean McCoy

 

[Football Jones]

It's really hard to compare Moreno to another RB. He has such a unique blend of skills. I will say this...I've never, EVER seen a better combination of lateral quickness, balance, vision, strength, & toughness (which results in some sick moves & exceptional runs). He's also an outstanding receiver & can pass-block.

Rank him however you want right now. Let's see what he can do, but the sky is the limit, IMO.

 

[kremenull]

It's really hard to compare Moreno to another RB. He has such a unique blend of skills. I will say this...I've never, EVER seen a better combination of lateral quickness, balance, vision, strength, & toughness (which results in some sick moves & exceptional runs). He's also an outstanding receiver & can pass-block.

Rank him however you want right now. Let's see what he can do, but the sky is the limit, IMO.

With this statement, then I assume you've never seen games, highlights, or clips of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, LaDanian Tomlinson, Bo Jackson, Gales Sayers, Jim Brown, or Adrian Peterson....and I'm sure there are several others.....Until proven otherwise, IMO, this kid is on the level of Cadillac (rookie year) and Marshawn Lynch, and not even in Ronnie Brown's class yet (Brown has much more power and speed, just as good of lateral quickness, vision, and toughness, but maybe a bit less balance than Moreno)......Again, this is no slight to Moreno just tempered expectations from the ultra-hype

 

[Liquid Tension]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Add in great vision!LT2 is without question in that group of top 5 to ever run in the NFL. It is so hard to compare different eras, styles and of course supporting cast which has a huge impact on results. Not a fan of the team, but one of the best pure runners (meaning not counting receiving skills) was Earl Campbell. I believe that if he were lined up with the same line as others that are the greatest and asked to run into the same defense as others in every scenario imaginable that he would be up there with anyone. His lousy OL makes people think he wasn't as good as he was; he was an absolute beast.

 

[RavensUNFL]

Another guy that had wr'ish hands but never was used that way as much was Marcus Allen, he could catch the ball as well as any of the above mentioned guys, he just did not get 75 chances a year to do it.

 

[Snotbubbles]

It's really hard to compare Moreno to another RB. He has such a unique blend of skills. I will say this...I've never, EVER seen a better combination of lateral quickness, balance, vision, strength, & toughness (which results in some sick moves & exceptional runs). He's also an outstanding receiver & can pass-block.

Rank him however you want right now. Let's see what he can do, but the sky is the limit, IMO.

With this statement, then I assume you've never seen games, highlights, or clips of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, LaDanian Tomlinson, Bo Jackson, Gales Sayers, Jim Brown, or Adrian Peterson....and I'm sure there are several others.....Until proven otherwise, IMO, this kid is on the level of Cadillac (rookie year) and Marshawn Lynch, and not even in Ronnie Brown's class yet (Brown has much more power and speed, just as good of lateral quickness, vision, and toughness, but maybe a bit less balance than Moreno)......Again, this is no slight to Moreno just tempered expectations from the ultra-hype

Sorry. Wasn't the knock on Ronnie Brown that he didn't have the elusiveness to be an effective NFL runner?

 

[duaneok66]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

 

[Snotbubbles]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

 

[Football Jones]

It's really hard to compare Moreno to another RB. He has such a unique blend of skills. I will say this...I've never, EVER seen a better combination of lateral quickness, balance, vision, strength, & toughness (which results in some sick moves & exceptional runs). He's also an outstanding receiver & can pass-block.

Rank him however you want right now. Let's see what he can do, but the sky is the limit, IMO.

With this statement, then I assume you've never seen games, highlights, or clips of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, LaDanian Tomlinson, Bo Jackson, Gales Sayers, Jim Brown, or Adrian Peterson....and I'm sure there are several others.....Until proven otherwise, IMO, this kid is on the level of Cadillac (rookie year) and Marshawn Lynch, and not even in Ronnie Brown's class yet (Brown has much more power and speed, just as good of lateral quickness, vision, and toughness, but maybe a bit less balance than Moreno)......Again, this is no slight to Moreno just tempered expectations from the ultra-hype

I'm probably a little older than you think, but yes, I've seen all those guys play. That said, I stand by my statement that Moreno has the best combination of those 6 tools I've ever seen. He's unique because the RBs that have more power don't have his lateral quickness & the few RBs that have his lateral quickness don't have his other skills.Like I said, put him in any class you want right now. Let's see how he does, but this kid has a rare combination of outstanding tools.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

What round was Tom Brady drafted in?

 

[PahtyTom]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

 

[kremenull]

It's really hard to compare Moreno to another RB. He has such a unique blend of skills. I will say this...I've never, EVER seen a better combination of lateral quickness, balance, vision, strength, & toughness (which results in some sick moves & exceptional runs). He's also an outstanding receiver & can pass-block.

Rank him however you want right now. Let's see what he can do, but the sky is the limit, IMO.

With this statement, then I assume you've never seen games, highlights, or clips of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, LaDanian Tomlinson, Bo Jackson, Gales Sayers, Jim Brown, or Adrian Peterson....and I'm sure there are several others.....Until proven otherwise, IMO, this kid is on the level of Cadillac (rookie year) and Marshawn Lynch, and not even in Ronnie Brown's class yet (Brown has much more power and speed, just as good of lateral quickness, vision, and toughness, but maybe a bit less balance than Moreno)......Again, this is no slight to Moreno just tempered expectations from the ultra-hype

I'm probably a little older than you think, but yes, I've seen all those guys play. That said, I stand by my statement that Moreno has the best combination of those 6 tools I've ever seen. He's unique because the RBs that have more power don't have his lateral quickness & the few RBs that have his lateral quickness don't have his other skills.Like I said, put him in any class you want right now. Let's see how he does, but this kid has a rare combination of outstanding tools.

OK! Then if you have seen them, I just don't see how that assertion is made. Let's just start with the most recent guy I mentioned. Adrian Peterson. Here's how I view it in a head-2-head- comparison.....as you'll see, IMO, it's not really that close using your 6-tool classification + some other key ingredients that I believe is often a big help towards greatness when combined with all the other vital traits and intangibles

1. Lateral Quickness.......Peterson >>> Moreno...by a mile

2. Balance.........Peterson = Moreno

3. Vision.........Peterson > Moreno

4. Burst (aka Acceleration)......Peterson >>>> Moreno......by two miles

5. Strength........Peterson > Moreno

6. Long Speed......Peterson >>>>> Moreno.....by 3.5 miles

7. Toughness......Peterson = Moreno.....much harder to judge this one at this time, but I'd still say it's a push

8. Receiving & Pass-blocking.......Moreno >> Peterson....big edge given to the rook

But each person views things through different lenses, I guess....Nice debate, and I see that some guys truly have their favorites and if you believe in Moreno that much to stand by your assessment, then I give much respect for that as it is definitely a strong assertion.....

 

[The Jacket]

1. Lateral Quickness.......Peterson >>> Moreno...by a mile2. Balance.........Peterson = Moreno3. Vision.........Peterson > Moreno

I think Moreno is pretty overrated in general, but I also think you're off here. Peterson is shifty and nimble for his size, but Moreno has a superior combination of lateral quickness and balance. As far as vision goes, Peterson could've been half-blind and produce in the situations he's been in. Moreno has exceptional vision and has proven over and over that he can get yards when there's little there in large part due to said vision.

 

[Nagle2998]

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

I agree but the reason Emmitt didn't go top 10 was because people worried he didn't have the break away speed. The reason Moreno didn't go top 10 is because of him forty time.

 

[duaneok66]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

thank you . .

 

[Tau837]

LT down?

I am biased but to me in his prime LT had the best combo of speed,power, and pass catching ever. Dude is money at the goalline and could take it to the house on the pass or run

Payton > LT

 

[FreeBaGeL]

OK! Then if you have seen them, I just don't see how that assertion is made. Let's just start with the most recent guy I mentioned. Adrian Peterson. Here's how I view it in a head-2-head- comparison.....as you'll see, IMO, it's not really that close using your 6-tool classification + some other key ingredients that I believe is often a big help towards greatness when combined with all the other vital traits and intangibles1. Lateral Quickness.......Peterson >>> Moreno...by a mile2. Balance.........Peterson = Moreno3. Vision.........Peterson > Moreno4. Burst (aka Acceleration)......Peterson >>>> Moreno......by two miles5. Strength........Peterson > Moreno6. Long Speed......Peterson >>>>> Moreno.....by 3.5 miles7. Toughness......Peterson = Moreno.....much harder to judge this one at this time, but I'd still say it's a push8. Receiving & Pass-blocking.......Moreno >> Peterson....big edge given to the rookBut each person views things through different lenses, I guess....Nice debate, and I see that some guys truly have their favorites and if you believe in Moreno that much to stand by your assessment, then I give much respect for that as it is definitely a strong assertion.....

I'm one of the biggest Peterson fans you'll find, but Moreno has better vision and instincts than Peterson. That's not to put them anywhere near on the same level, as the advantage in Peterson's athletic ability and strength is much larger than Moreno's advantage in vision/instincts, but I will say that Moreno has some of the best vision out there.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

And the super technical body analysis stuff is a little much too, imo.

 

[Snotbubbles]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

And for every LT, Manning or ADP drafted in the top 10 there's a Curtis Enis, Ryan Leaf or Troy Williamson. What's your point? Why use where a player is drafted to determine a guys potential contribution to the NFL. The NFL draft is a crapshoot, always had been, always will be.

 

[Ripleys]

can't we all just agree that Portis > AP & Monroe?........in Denver.

 

[Tanner9919]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

And the super technical body analysis stuff is a little much too, imo.

Moreno went to a QB-challenged team, one that has a new coaching staff that seems to be in love with RBBC> oh, and Moreno will split time with the other 5RB's on the roster.

for every LT2 and Faulk, there is a Ron Dayne, Blair Thomas, KiJana Carter...

Situation has a lot to do with RB success, type of offense, etc..

when McDaniels proves he's not married to RBBC then I'll believe Moreno landed with the right team.Great talent, but it might not be the best situation for him..

 

[Snotbubbles]

If this guy is so great, then why didnt he go in the top 10???

Emmitt Smith went #17. He sucks.

Can we just stop this already. Every guy that's slow or drafted late is either Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, or Jerry Rice. For the last time, guys like those 3 are the EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. It's so weak to throw them out as a reason why "so and so" will be good. There's 1000 scrubs for every 1 Smith, Brady, or Rice.

And the super technical body analysis stuff is a little much too, imo.

Moreno went to a QB-challenged team, one that has a new coaching staff that seems to be in love with RBBC> oh, and Moreno will split time with the other 5RB's on the roster.

for every LT2 and Faulk, there is a Ron Dayne, Blair Thomas, KiJana Carter...

Situation has a lot to do with RB success, type of offense, etc..

when McDaniels proves he's not married to RBBC then I'll believe Moreno landed with the right team.Great talent, but it might not be the best situation for him..

Denver is QB challenged? Orton was the same QB for Matt Forte who had 1700 total yards and 12 TDs. The Denver line is better then the Chicago line, and the Denver receiving corp is better then Chicago. I have no doubt that the 2009 Denver offense will be a better situation for a RB, then the 2008 Chicago offense.I also keep reading on these boards that McDaniels loves a RBBC. McDaniels never had a #1 RB to go to when he was in NE. The last guy NE had was Corey Dillon and when they had him they used him like a #1. Then they drafted Maroney to replace Dillon, and he just wasn't good enough to be the #1. I mean seriously, last year in NE they had Sammy Morris, Kevin Faulk and Lamont Jordan. The year before they had Maroney, Morris and Faulk. Who are you really going to give the ball to 250-300 times. He ran a RBBC out of personnel necessity, not philosophy.

Somebody on here wrote that McDaniels loves RBBC and everyone on here just went with it.