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Kohl's has terrible customer service (1 Viewer)

TheIronSheik

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About a month ago, I ordered a pillow from Kohl's online. I had seen the pillow in their store but when I went back to get it, they were sold out. The pillow was $50. Nothing crazy, but noting cheap.

A week later, a box shows up at my house and I'm all excited to try out my new pillow. But when I open up the box, it's not the right pillow. Not even close. The pillow I wanted was a memory foam pillow and this thing was like alternative down or something. SKU numbers matched on the box and online, but obviously someone messed up at the shipping facility. No big deal. I email Kohl's and say that I'd like the pillow I ordered.

That's when the fun begins. The next day they email me back and tell me to check the SKU numbers. I tell them I did, and they match, but it's not the correct pillow. They send me back an email that says "Glad we could help you with that, let me know if you need any further assistance." :confused:

So I email them back and explain that the pillow I got is not the one I ordered, even though the SKU numbers on the box match. They reply back and say, "Oh. Then you can just bring that into a store and get my refund." No mention of the actual pillow I ordered.

At this point, my fiance says to me that she kind of liked the pillow, so she'll just keep it instead of driving to the store and returning it. So I email Kohl's back and say that I'm going to keep the pillow they messed up sending me, but I'd still like the pillow I ordered, and I wouldn't mind a little discount since they had made a mistake. In my mind, I felt like they messed up and because of it, they got 2 sales instead of 1.

They replied back, "Great! Please go to the website to handle any orders. I can not order anything for you." So I asked about the discount and they said "We'll take care of that when you order."

So I order again. Then I email them. The email I send says, "Here's the order number: XXXXXXXXXX What is the discount?

They reply, "Can I have your order number?"

I reply, "Sure. It's just below your last response in this email thread."

They reply back, "Perfect!"

A day goes by and no more correspondence. So I reply back and say, "Any word on what the discount is?"

Their reply says, "What discount are you referring to?"

So I write this lengthy email explaining how they messed up my order and inconvenienced me so I'd like some kind of discount to make up for their mistake.

This was the reply:

"Thanks for contacting us regarding your concern. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

I apologize about what happened to your order. As a customer myself, I understand how important hassle-free shopping is for you. I apologize for the trouble this has caused you. I also experienced the same thing before and it was a terrible experience. I know how much you value your time.

Thank you so much for your patience!"

WTF?

So I replied back, "No offense, but I don't give care about one of your bad shopping experiences. Although, I'd be interested to hear if they gave you a discount for the hassle. And if they didn't, was your bad shopping experience at Kohl's? Please escalate this to a supervisor, because I feel like I'm talking to an automated system."

So at this point, I should say that I shop a lot at Kohl's. Not spend a lot of money, but things here and there. Usually, no issues. Only one time before did I have a problem and it also took about 4 weeks of emails and phone calls to finally get some supervisor to credit me $20 for charging me full price during a sale. I figured it was an anomaly, and not the norm. Turns out I was wrong. So back to the current situation...

I get a reply back that says, " Thank you for contacting us. If you'd like a discount, please call the 800 number to file a request."

So I reply back, "So your solution after 10 emails is to have me waste my time calling you on the phone? How about instead of that, I just use that time to go on social media and the internet and just explain how helpful you've been so far?"

Amazingly, this email gets a reply within minutes.

A lady who says she is a supervisor says that she's sorry where things got to, but as a fix, she's willing to offer me 15% of my next purchase. Which means that they want me to buy more stuff in order to get a discount. Forget the fact I've already bought the first pillow they sent me in error.

I replied back:

"I already bought a second item. The 15% should go to the second pillow I ordered. I feel like anytime there's an issue with Kohl's, it could resolved in the first email where you admit your mistake, say you're sorry, and then give a small discount. Two of those three things cost Kohl's nothing, yet make the customer feel better. Instead, two weeks are wasted with emails that do nothing but infuriate a customer, then insult them by saying, "Fine. Spend more money at our store and I'll give you a tiny discount." It's like extortion.

So here we are, weeks later. I'm livid at your service that could have been easily resolved, and I'm being told to spend more money and you'll give me 15% off a new order. No thanks. If that's how this works, keep your crappy discount. There are plenty of stores that would love my business. And I'll make it my personal goal in life to educate everyone I know and everyone who'll listen on social media about the terrible customer service of your company.

It blows my mind how far a company will go to avoid doing the easy thing that keeps customers so that they can instead save $10. Seriously. You just lost customers because of around $10 to $15 dollars. That's good business, right?"

She replied back, "Sorry to hear that."

Ouch.

I swear to God, the replies must be automated. No way they can be a real person.

At this point, we are still going back and forth. I hate this ####### company so much.

Anyone else have any bad Kohl's experiences? Or am I just lucky?

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
isn't that true of pretty much all big box retailers?

 
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I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to Kohl's and thinking they're getting top quality stuff.

 
Do us all a favor and complain on the Kohls Facebook page so we can hope that the "hope this helps" troll customer service page can give you a great answer.

 
So how can we help you?
I was thinking maybe calling my buddy who can get some Tomahawk missiles cheap. Or, maybe just trying to spread the word that Kohl's is crappy. I always threaten to company's that I'll go to Twitter to call them out on their terrible business, and usually no one calls me on it. But Kohl's did this time. And unfortunately I was all in with a 7/2 off suit. I don't have a Twitter account.

I honestly don't know what the next step is. Thought I'd come here for a brainstorm session. The power of the FFA might be able to come up with something to make them realize they messed with the wrong powerless guy. :angry:

 
Never had a problem returning products at Kohl's. Bought some shoes that fit really well at first and then for some reason started pinching my achilles - returned the shoes with no question asked. Also did the same with jeans. Lost a bunch of weight and returned jeans that didn't fit anymore - again, no questions asked.

Kohl's is proud to offer our "No Questions Asked - Hassle-Free" return policy for all purchases*.
Above is from the website, not sure what the * indicates.

 
So how can we help you?
I was thinking maybe calling my buddy who can get some Tomahawk missiles cheap. Or, maybe just trying to spread the word that Kohl's is crappy. I always threaten to company's that I'll go to Twitter to call them out on their terrible business, and usually no one calls me on it. But Kohl's did this time. And unfortunately I was all in with a 7/2 off suit. I don't have a Twitter account. I honestly don't know what the next step is. Thought I'd come here for a brainstorm session. The power of the FFA might be able to come up with something to make them realize they messed with the wrong powerless guy. :angry:
We would love to help you with that today. Please hold while I get you to the correct department.

 
Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.

 
Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.
I get what you're saying. But this started as a small problem. An incredibly small issue. I figured an email would get it solved. Looking back, sure it's easy to say, maybe at this point I should have just called, but when it's happening, I still have the mindset of "it's a small problem."

 
Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.
This.

I have no prob how this went down from Kohl's end.

They are real good with returns for any reason (apparently my GF's lil brother gets shoes there, wears them for a few months and takes them back for a different new pair). Even if you don't have the receipt, if you bought it with a CC or Debit they can look up the transaction and refund you

 
I cant speak for the online service, but we (mostly my wife) always gets great service in the store.
In the store, my only complaint is that it always seems like they have one person during busy periods. I love how Target has a person that watches the lines and opens new registers if lines start to form. Other than that, the stores are good to me.

And 98% of the time, the online ordering is fine, too. It just seems that anytime I have an issue online, they go out of their way to piss me off.

 
Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.
This.

I have no prob how this went down from Kohl's end.

They are real good with returns for any reason (apparently my GF's lil brother gets shoes there, wears them for a few months and takes them back for a different new pair). Even if you don't have the receipt, if you bought it with a CC or Debit they can look up the transaction and refund you
:confused:

You think they handled this correctly?

 
So you didn't get very good communication via e-mail, could probably have called and solved this in 20 min, and instead spent the 20 minutes typing your story in this thread and want my sympathy?

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Their "regular" prices are hilarious.

I hit up Kohls 2-3 times a year. Never bought anything that wasn't on a clearance rack. It's pretty funny because you'll see something and say "hmmmm, $20 isn't too bad for this shirt...lemme check the original price...$68! Who pays that for Apt. 9 crap?"

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to Kohl's and thinking they're getting top quality stuff.
Yet you paid $100 for two pillows.

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is going to Kohl's and thinking they're getting top quality stuff.
Yet you paid $100 for two pillows.
:lmao:

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Their "regular" prices are hilarious. I hit up Kohls 2-3 times a year. Never bought anything that wasn't on a clearance rack. It's pretty funny because you'll see something and say "hmmmm, $20 isn't too bad for this shirt...lemme check the original price...$68! Who pays that for Apt. 9 crap?"
Hey! #### you! I saved over $250 the last time I was there!

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Their "regular" prices are hilarious.

I hit up Kohls 2-3 times a year. Never bought anything that wasn't on a clearance rack. It's pretty funny because you'll see something and say "hmmmm, $20 isn't too bad for this shirt...lemme check the original price...$68! Who pays that for Apt. 9 crap?"
:lmao: Yeah, that's good shtick. Amazon had a Black Friday deal on a women's watch, regular price $986.00, sale price $39.99.

 
I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Their "regular" prices are hilarious.

I hit up Kohls 2-3 times a year. Never bought anything that wasn't on a clearance rack. It's pretty funny because you'll see something and say "hmmmm, $20 isn't too bad for this shirt...lemme check the original price...$68! Who pays that for Apt. 9 crap?"
:lmao: Yeah, that's good shtick. Amazon had a Black Friday deal on a women's watch, regular price $986.00, sale price $39.99.
Did you buy it and then give it to your wife 2 years in a row?

 
So you didn't get very good communication via e-mail, could probably have called and solved this in 20 min, and instead spent the 20 minutes typing your story in this thread and want my sympathy?
I didn't want your sympathy. Sorry if that's what you thought. I was just venting in a public forum. I'll be calling them later when I get a moment. If there's anything else I can do to help clarify this issue, please let me know.

Please have a 20% discount coupon on your next purchase as a way of me saying I'm sorry.

 
I will not shop at Kohl's until this situation is resolved to the Ironsheik's satisfaction.

I go now to share his evangel across the web. His dissatisfaction shall reverberate throughout the land as it spreads from website to website. When their business model crumples they will know then that they should not have messed with our good buddy. They will know that it was he, one half of the World Tag Team champions back in the day, who camel-clutched them to submission.

 
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I hate kohls because of their coupon = primary pricing business model. Has anyone in the history of ever actually bought your ####ty Croft & Barrow store-brand pants for $69.99? Who do you think you're kidding with this 30% off promotion/coupon?

Also, my GF's company sells product to them and apparently they are epically cheap... forcing you to cheapen your product from the original version to meet their crappy price points. Rest assured, anything you're buying there is a ####ty value-engineered version of a similar model elsewhere.
Their "regular" prices are hilarious.

I hit up Kohls 2-3 times a year. Never bought anything that wasn't on a clearance rack. It's pretty funny because you'll see something and say "hmmmm, $20 isn't too bad for this shirt...lemme check the original price...$68! Who pays that for Apt. 9 crap?"
:lmao: Yeah, that's good shtick. Amazon had a Black Friday deal on a women's watch, regular price $986.00, sale price $39.99.
Did you buy it and then give it to your wife 2 years in a row?
:lmao:

 
Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.
This.

I have no prob how this went down from Kohl's end.

They are real good with returns for any reason (apparently my GF's lil brother gets shoes there, wears them for a few months and takes them back for a different new pair). Even if you don't have the receipt, if you bought it with a CC or Debit they can look up the transaction and refund you
:confused:

You think they handled this correctly?
No, probably not. But I think as consumers we have a crazy sense of entitlement anytime something goes slightly awry (and I'm totally guilty of this myself)... and I don't think you handled it correctly either.

You were inconvenienced by getting the wrong item... so this is like a catch in the the NFL... you have to "COMPLETE THE PROCESS" of the inconveniencing. That entails making a phone call or going to the store... complete the process of being fully inconvenienced and make a comment at the end and you'll get taken care of with a coupon or something nice to say "I'm sorry". Expecting to resolve this in a couple emails to your full satisfaction was naive.

 
Does Kohl's know we are in good with the ladies from the curlyboard and with the peanut moms. Between those two that has to be about half of their demographic, no? They ought to relent now, before we go to our allies for support. If those women join the crusade Kohl's will be like a ghost town inside of a day.

Imagine their low, low clearance prices in a going out of business sale.

 
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Have people really had so little electronic communication with large companies as still to expect personal service while dealing with a website? If I want to get a small issue resolved, I'll deal with a big companies website. If I feel like I need someone to go above and beyond, it has to be a personal interaction (phone call at the very least, face to face most likely).

I know that stinks and doesn't help resolve issues when you want to deal with an online interaction, but it is just reality IMO.
This.

I have no prob how this went down from Kohl's end.

They are real good with returns for any reason (apparently my GF's lil brother gets shoes there, wears them for a few months and takes them back for a different new pair). Even if you don't have the receipt, if you bought it with a CC or Debit they can look up the transaction and refund you
:confused:

You think they handled this correctly?
No, probably not. But I think as consumers we have a crazy sense of entitlement anytime something goes slightly awry (and I'm totally guilty of this myself)... and I don't think you handled it correctly either.

You were inconvenienced by getting the wrong item... so this is like a catch in the the NFL... you have to "COMPLETE THE PROCESS" of the inconveniencing. That entails making a phone call or going to the store... complete the process of being fully inconvenienced and make a comment at the end and you'll get taken care of with a coupon or something nice to say "I'm sorry". Expecting to resolve this in a couple emails to your full satisfaction was naive.
I couldn't go to the store because the pillow was sold out. Even if I took the original back, I'd still have to order the pillow again online. I respect your opinion, but I'm not sure exactly how I messed up in this situation.

 

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