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According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, WR Koren Robinson has submitted his application for reinstatement to the league.

The newspaper reports that it'll be at least five weeks before Robinson will hear whether he's being reinstated and he's not eligible to return before October 17.

Should he come back at that time, it would be 3 days after the game with the Skins and just prior to their bye week, allowing him almost 2 full weeks to get reacclimated.

I say the Packers should give him a shot....lets see, Ruvell Martin or Koren Robinson....I think I'll take Robinson.

 
if Robinson comes back Ruvell will be your #5 til the end of the year most likely.

be interesting to see Robinson, Jones, Jennings and Driver together. could be deadly. could also provide some nice insurance should one of them go down. gonna depend on what kinda shape he's in and how fast he can re-assimilate in to the offense.

 
Bump the GB defense as he'd probably be returning kick-offs and punts? Driver, Jennings and Jones are your top 3 GB receivers for the year.

 
Bump the GB defense as he'd probably be returning kick-offs and punts? Driver, Jennings and Jones are your top 3 GB receivers for the year.
Robinson has mad skill - if he were to be activated and in shape, I could see him bumping up as high as #2 receiver....
 
McCarthy will put the best players on the field - Robinson has more pure speed and skill than anyone except Driver on the current roster - it will be a matter of getting in rhythm with Favre.

No, Jones has done nothing to lose the spot, but they will do what puts them in the best position to win (which may even mean letting Robinson walk).

 
According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, WR Koren Robinson has submitted his application for reinstatement to the league. The newspaper reports that it'll be at least five weeks before Robinson will hear whether he's being reinstated and he's not eligible to return before October 17. Should he come back at that time, it would be 3 days after the game with the Skins and just prior to their bye week, allowing him almost 2 full weeks to get reacclimated.I say the Packers should give him a shot....lets see, Ruvell Martin or Koren Robinson....I think I'll take Robinson.
The team has welcomed him with open arms. Many players have bonded with him. GB may be a good place for him to stay clean. I say he'll be a kick returned at first if he is allowed back in. That isn't a given.
 
Bump the GB defense as he'd probably be returning kick-offs and punts? Driver, Jennings and Jones are your top 3 GB receivers for the year.
Robinson has mad skill - if he were to be activated and in shape, I could see him bumping up as high as #2 receiver....
So what makes you think Robinson will take full advantage of his talent (which I agree is quite strong) in Green Bay after failing to do so in Seattle and Minnesota? KRob is fool's gold. He's talented but lacks the drive to reach his full potential. I think it would be a major mistake to expect anything more out of him than help on special teams. If he's going to help the Packers at all, it will be as a return man in my opinion. I see no reason to bank on him outproducing Jennings or Jones barring an injury to one or both of them.
 
McCarthy will put the best players on the field - Robinson has more pure speed and skill than anyone except Driver on the current roster - it will be a matter of getting in rhythm with Favre.No, Jones has done nothing to lose the spot, but they will do what puts them in the best position to win (which may even mean letting Robinson walk).
Robinson also drops a ton of passes and always has a hammy acting up. He had one great season an aeon ago in Seattle--but don't go getting too excited.
 
I say the Packers should give him a shot....lets see, Ruvell Martin or Koren Robinson....I think I'll take Robinson.
The NFL has to give him a shot before the Packers can. I wouldn't be so sure it's a slam dunk he gets reinstated.
 
According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, WR Koren Robinson has submitted his application for reinstatement to the league. The newspaper reports that it'll be at least five weeks before Robinson will hear whether he's being reinstated and he's not eligible to return before October 17. Should he come back at that time, it would be 3 days after the game with the Skins and just prior to their bye week, allowing him almost 2 full weeks to get reacclimated.I say the Packers should give him a shot....lets see, Ruvell Martin or Koren Robinson....I think I'll take Robinson.
The team has welcomed him with open arms. Many players have bonded with him. GB may be a good place for him to stay clean. I say he'll be a kick returned at first if he is allowed back in. That isn't a given.
The exact same things were being said in MN, up until the day he decided to get drunk and drive.
 
So what makes you think Robinson will take full advantage of his talent (which I agree is quite strong) in Green Bay after failing to do so in Seattle and Minnesota? KRob is fool's gold. He's talented but lacks the drive to reach his full potential. I think it would be a major mistake to expect anything more out of him than help on special teams. If he's going to help the Packers at all, it will be as a return man in my opinion. I see no reason to bank on him outproducing Jennings or Jones barring an injury to one or both of them.

How much drive and work ethic did you have when you were 20 years old? He's just like a lot of young stupid kids. He could easialy turn it around as he grows up. Hangig around Brett Favre won't hurt either.

 
Favre talks to RobinsonQuarterback Brett Favre said he talked to teammate Koren Robinson this week and said the suspended receiver hopes to have his meeting with the NFL commissioner Roger Goodell this week.Robinson last October began serving a one-year suspension for a repeat violation of the NFL's substance abuse policy. He was arrested for DUI in August 2006, when he was a member of the Minnesota Vikings, and was released shortly after.Favre, who has dealt with his own alcohol issues in the past, supported Robinson when the Packers signed him and expressed similar feelings a day after the two spoke on the phone."I think he can offer a lot," Favre said today of Robinson, who could be reinstated next week. "In just my conversations with him -- and I don't doubt this -- his knee was hurt, he had a lot of off-field issues, whereas this year I think he knows where he stands, and not looking over his shoulder."He said physically-speaking, he feels great. He said ... 'the only shape I'm not in is game shape,' and the only way you get in that is you play."-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com
 
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/packers/250520

Packers: Robinson awaiting reinstatement

By JASON WILDE

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October 10, 2007

GREEN BAY — Even though his cell phone has call waiting, Koren Robinson wasn't taking any chances Wednesday afternoon.

"I've got to keep my phone lines open," Robinson said.

And having waited a year for this call, who could blame him?

With his one-year suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy expiring Oct. 17, Robinson was waiting to hear from Roger Goodell's office Wednesday to learn when he would be meeting the commissioner in New York City about his reinstatement.

Robinson said he had spoken with the NFL's management council earlier in the day, and he was looking forward to meeting with Goodell to tell the commissioner about the progress he's made in the past 12 months.

Robinson said he has complied with every requirement of his suspension and associated programs, so he is expecting the league to rule in his favor, clearing his way to return to the Green Bay Packers during next week's bye.

"Everything looks real good," Robinson said.

Favre weighs in

Robinson's agent, Alvin Keels, didn't respond to an e-mail Wednesday, and by NFL rule, the Packers cannot comment on Robinson until he's reinstated.

But quarterback Brett Favre, who was outspoken in his support for Robinson after his appeal was denied last year, said Wednesday that he spoke to Robinson this week.

"From my conversations with him, he sounds like he's doing outstanding off the field," said Favre, who called Robinson on Tuesday. "Everything seems to be going great for him, and that's fantastic. He's eager to get back, and says he's in tremendous shape.

"I'm not the commissioner, but I think there needs to be some positives. There hasn't been a whole lot of positives as far as suspensions and things of that nature, and it would be nice — now, I'm a little bit biased, obviously — but I think he's done everything he's been asked to do, and it's time to set a good example, that you can resurrect not only your career but your life. I mean, there's still a lot left for him to do on and off the field, but give the guy an opportunity."

Favre was highly critical last year of the NFL's rule that players serving one-year suspensions not only aren't allowed to practice or play in games, but they're not even permitted on team property to work out and cannot have any contact with team officials.

Favre said Wednesday that he stands by his comments.

"I haven't seen Koren, but (in) talking to him, he sounds great. And in some ways, I've been through a lot of the same things he's been through, and it doesn't make you a bad person," said Favre, who battled an addiction to painkillers and heavy drinking early in his career. "His visit with the commissioner, he's anxiously awaiting (that). Hopefully it gets done this week, where he can meet with him. He says, 'That's the thing I've been looking to more than anything, a chance to eye-to-eye sit down and talk with (Goodell) and he can see how confident I am in where I am.' "

Bumpy road

The Packers signed Robinson on Sept. 11, 2006, after he was released by the Minnesota Vikings following a high-speed chase during their training camp, an incident for which Robinson eventually would serve jail time.

The NFL suspension first was handed down on Sept. 18, 2006, but because Robinson appealed the ruling, he was able to keep playing until the league denied his appeal Oct. 17.

He ended up playing in four games last season, catching seven passes for 89 yards and averaging 21.1 yards on 12 kickoff returns.

Robinson was suspended for a year because the league determined he had violated the policy a third time.

Robinson was involved in multiple alcohol-related arrests, the last of which occurred on Aug. 15, 2006, when Robinson led police in Mankato, Minn., on a high-speed chase and was charged with having a blood-alcohol level of 0.11, above the Minnesota legal limit of 0.08.

Robinson was in private counseling and attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings when he was suspended, and he stayed in Green Bay for much of the season.

Sentenced to 90 days in jail for violating his probation from a previous alcohol-related arrest in Kirkland, Wash., Robinson served 45 days in a work-release program, then served the other 45 days in both Kirkland and Green Bay.

He also was jailed in Nicollet County (Minn.) from July 18 to Aug. 2 as part of the training-camp arrest.

Self improvement

Since his release from there, Robinson has been in the Phoenix area, working out at Athlete's Performance, a prominent training facility used by many NFL players.

Once Robinson is reinstated, the Packers likely would receive a one-week roster exemption for him, and he could be added to the roster in time for the team's Oct. 29 game at Denver.

Although the Packers have a solid foursome at receiver with Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Ruvell Martin, Favre said Robinson would be a welcome addition.

"I think he can offer a lot," Favre said. "The thing about Koren, he was born to play football. He understands the game. And I gathered that from him right away. He understands how to set guys up, how to run routes. The terminology, it'll have to come back to him, and that may take awhile.

"But he gives us a different dimension and an added dimension to what we have. If we want to go five wide receivers — and we've proven we can go empty (backfield) — it gives us another dimension of stretching the field. So, do we put him in right away and is he capable of 20 catches (in a game)? I seriously doubt it. But I wouldn't put it past him."
 
Favre talks to Robinson

Quarterback Brett Favre said he talked to teammate Koren Robinson this week and said the suspended receiver hopes to have his meeting with the NFL commissioner Roger Goodell this week.

Robinson last October began serving a one-year suspension for a repeat violation of the NFL's substance abuse policy. He was arrested for DUI in August 2006, when he was a member of the Minnesota Vikings, and was released shortly after.

Favre, who has dealt with his own alcohol issues in the past, supported Robinson when the Packers signed him and expressed similar feelings a day after the two spoke on the phone.

"I think he can offer a lot," Favre said today of Robinson, who could be reinstated next week. "In just my conversations with him -- and I don't doubt this -- his knee was hurt, he had a lot of off-field issues, whereas this year I think he knows where he stands, and not looking over his shoulder.

"He said physically-speaking, he feels great. He said ... 'the only shape I'm not in is game shape,' and the only way you get in that is you play."

-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com
1250 WSSP in Milwaukee had Jay Glazer on the air on Tuesday. Apparently he has been working out with KRob in Arizona and has also said that he is in spectacular shape, just needs to get into "game shape". Supposedly KRob appealed for early reinstatement at the end of Sept (see OP)LINK

Suspended WR Koren Robinson told FOX Sports this week that in meeting with the NFL he argued that he's paid his due by spending time behind bars and losing his freedom. But mostly he tried to convince them that he's been completely clean from alcohol, the reason he's in the middle of a one-year suspension.

"I've had my liver tested for a while to show that I've been clean," he said. "I also have been taking a pill given to me by my psychiatrist that makes me ill if I drink alcohol. I'm totally clean and have been. This was a rude awakening. I went to jail, I wasn't just suspended.

"I had my freedom taken away from me. If you can't wake up from that, nothing will help."
Their Packer insider said that the anniversary of the suspension is Oct 17 and that the Packers have been "mum" on the issue because that is what they are supposed to do...distance themselves from the situation until his is actually reinstated. He also speculated that is the reason that Will Blackmon who is out with a broken foot has not been put on IR yet. They MAY be waiting for KRob to come back so they can make those roster moves simultaneously.
 
Good on the field and problems off: Game shape is a whole different animal than practice shape. Don't rely on him for more than your 4 or 5 WR at best, if at all...

 
Good on the field and problems off: Game shape is a whole different animal than practice shape. Don't rely on him for more than your 4 or 5 WR at best, if at all...
Based on what? One season of over 1000 yards and a thousand dropped passes? Seattle would have beaten GB in the playofs if he'd held onto just 1 of his 4 drops in that game alone. , 2 TDs and 2 1st downs. He has potential on the field but has never been able to tap it without causing more problems than he solves. He's got an eye problem and stone hands, plus he's one drink away from another extended vacation.
 
Robinson won't be the #3 Wr....that's James Jones spot and he's done nothing to lose it EXCEPT FUMBLE AWAY THE BALL SO MUCH LAST WEEK HE WAS AIRED OUT AND BENCHED BY MCCARTHY HIMSELF.
Fixed.Robinson may have limited value this year unless there are injuries in the WR corps but he has better deep speed than Driver, Jennings or Jones so he would give Favre more options.

 
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Robinson won't be the #3 Wr....that's James Jones spot and he's done nothing to lose it EXCEPT FUMBLE AWAY THE BALL SO MUCH LAST WEEK HE WAS AIRED OUT AND BENCHED BY MCCARTHY HIMSELF.
Fixed.Robinson may have limited value this year unless there are injuries in the WR corps but he has better deep speed than Driver, Jennings or Jones so he would give Favre more options.
I have yet to see Robinson show he has better deep speed than any of those 3...much less Ruvell Martin.As another said, look for him to be #4-#5 WR and involved in the return game.

 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.

A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.

 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
Robinson's top-end speed is the only tool he's really ever shown. You are very wrong about that foot race. Robinson would run circles around all three of the other WR's assuming his knee is sound, which it reportedly is.
 
A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
ohh gimme a break :goodposting:
 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
Robinson's top-end speed is the only tool he's really ever shown. You are very wrong about that foot race. Robinson would run circles around all three of the other WR's assuming his knee is sound, which it reportedly is.
He might...though I have never seen him really show it. Especially not his time with Green Bay.And Driver is faster than some think.
 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
Robinson's top-end speed is the only tool he's really ever shown. You are very wrong about that foot race. Robinson would run circles around all three of the other WR's assuming his knee is sound, which it reportedly is.
He might...though I have never seen him really show it. Especially not his time with Green Bay.And Driver is faster than some think.
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.

A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
This has to be a joke. A 4th or 5th string WR is going to turn an offense that cant run the ball into an unstoppable offense by his mere presence on the sidelines? Im not understanding.....
 
Bump the GB defense as he'd probably be returning kick-offs and punts? Driver, Jennings and Jones are your top 3 GB receivers for the year.
I agree. Look at how he was used in Minnesota but he will see the field as a WR some too.
 
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.

A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
This has to be a joke. A 4th or 5th string WR is going to turn an offense that cant run the ball into an unstoppable offense by his mere presence on the sidelines? Im not understanding.....
They ran pretty well last week but gave up too soon. By week 8 or 10 they'll have a decent running game. Calling KRob a 4th or 5th WR is wrong. He is much more than that. If he can produce he will see the field often.

 
Robinson is a stud. If he weren't, he'd be long gone from the league. He has natural ability that very few have. His inordinate number of drops notwithstanding, he has incredible coordination. He matches his running tempo to coincide with the ball in the air with such ease. He leans in the proper direction to shield defenders from the ball, probably without even knowing that he's doing it.

He simply has "it". Honestly, if he didn't, he would be so far removed from the NFL that it wouldn't even be funny. But he has out-of-this-world natural talent and instincts. He might never be on active roster for the rest of his life, but he'll be in a training camp when he's 42.

 
Good on the field and problems off: Game shape is a whole different animal than practice shape. Don't rely on him for more than your 4 or 5 WR at best, if at all...
Based on what? One season of over 1000 yards and a thousand dropped passes? Seattle would have beaten GB in the playofs if he'd held onto just 1 of his 4 drops in that game alone. , 2 TDs and 2 1st downs. He has potential on the field but has never been able to tap it without causing more problems than he solves. He's got an eye problem and stone hands, plus he's one drink away from another extended vacation.
| 2001 sea | 16 | 4 13 3.2 0 | 39 536 13.7 1 || 2002 sea | 16 | 8 56 7.0 0 | 78 1240 15.9 5 |

| 2003 sea | 15 | 4 15 3.8 0 | 65 896 13.8 4 |

| 2004 sea | 10 | 1 3 3.0 0 | 31 495 16.0 2 |

| 2005 min | 14 | 4 27 6.8 1 | 22 347 15.8 1 |

| 2006 gnb | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 7 89 12.7 0 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 75 | 21 114 5.4 1 | 242 3603 14.9 13 |

Notice I said good, not great. No doubt he would contribute in GB with their injury issues...

 
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
I remember one game where Amato suspended him for the first half, and State was behind, and when the second half started, Koren ran the kickoff in for a touchdown. When State got the ball again, Rivers threw a bomb to him, and he blazed by people and scored again. State ended up winning that game. Koren had the ability to totally dominate a game. He has never been a bad person, just a bad alcoholic. I hope he stays sober now, and utilizes that natural talent he has. I'd like to see him succeed. It's not too late for him.
 
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
I remember one game where Amato suspended him for the first half, and State was behind, and when the second half started, Koren ran the kickoff in for a touchdown. When State got the ball again, Rivers threw a bomb to him, and he blazed by people and scored again. State ended up winning that game. Koren had the ability to totally dominate a game. He has never been a bad person, just a bad alcoholic. I hope he stays sober now, and utilizes that natural talent he has. I'd like to see him succeed. It's not too late for him.
Agree with all of that. I remember that game as well. Pulled this from statefansnation.com:
A watershed moment that foreshadowed Koren Robinson’s eventually wasted potential occurred during his final college season, when his N.C. State team took on Wake Forest. That day, the talented Robinson sat out the entire first half as part of a disciplinary suspension, and his team fell behind 14-3 to an overmatched Wake Forest bunch. When Robinson finally entered the game, he easily returned a punt 61 yards for a TD. Four minutes later, he caught a TD pass from freshman Philip Rivers, immediately sparking his team to a win. That particular effort displayed Robinson’s dominance, almost as much the first half-suspension displayed his growing inability to abide by rules.
 
Good on the field and problems off: Game shape is a whole different animal than practice shape. Don't rely on him for more than your 4 or 5 WR at best, if at all...
Based on what? One season of over 1000 yards and a thousand dropped passes? Seattle would have beaten GB in the playofs if he'd held onto just 1 of his 4 drops in that game alone. , 2 TDs and 2 1st downs. He has potential on the field but has never been able to tap it without causing more problems than he solves. He's got an eye problem and stone hands, plus he's one drink away from another extended vacation.
| 2001 sea | 16 | 4 13 3.2 0 | 39 536 13.7 1 || 2002 sea | 16 | 8 56 7.0 0 | 78 1240 15.9 5 |

| 2003 sea | 15 | 4 15 3.8 0 | 65 896 13.8 4 |

| 2004 sea | 10 | 1 3 3.0 0 | 31 495 16.0 2 |

| 2005 min | 14 | 4 27 6.8 1 | 22 347 15.8 1 |

| 2006 gnb | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 7 89 12.7 0 |

+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 75 | 21 114 5.4 1 | 242 3603 14.9 13 |

Notice I said good, not great. No doubt he would contribute in GB with their injury issues...
And I'm saying good is overstating his capabilities. All those numbers are based on him being the WR2, which he won't be. In addition, HE CAN"T CATCH. Do you know how many slants Hass hit him in stride that he dropped? IF he makes it into the rotation ahead of Driver Jennings and Jones then he MIGHT be of minor help. As a returner I'm sure he can contribute but throwing the ball to him is too much for him to handle. I think a lot of Favre's man love for Koren has to do with the addict bond. I watched him in MN after seeing every Seahawks game he was in and when he finally started playing WR for the Vikes he stone handed several passes, including one that turned into a pick that sealed the Queens fate that day. The man flat out can't catch, and a part of it is an eye condition which cannot be corrected. He's chattel.
 
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
I remember one game where Amato suspended him for the first half, and State was behind, and when the second half started, Koren ran the kickoff in for a touchdown. When State got the ball again, Rivers threw a bomb to him, and he blazed by people and scored again. State ended up winning that game. Koren had the ability to totally dominate a game. He has never been a bad person, just a bad alcoholic. I hope he stays sober now, and utilizes that natural talent he has. I'd like to see him succeed. It's not too late for him.
Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.

 
Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
 
Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
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Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
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Thank God. The way you're hatin' makes it sound like Koren stole your wife...
 
Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
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Thank God. The way you're hatin' makes it sound like Koren stole your wife...
I'm not hatin'. I'm just telling the truth based on watching the guy every week he's played since the Seahawks drafted him. Just because it's not something you want to hear you call it hatin'. That's a cop out. Provide me one single solitary piece of evidence that shows that Koren can be a viable fantasy or GB WR option or that anything I've said isn't the obvious and apparent truth. And I'll stand behind the paper trail of drops, disappointments and arrests.
 
The way #4 has been throwing the ball this year, I'd take a 4 wide set of Driver/Jennings/Jones/Robinson. If anything, it would open up running lanes. Let's not forget about the upgrade on special teams.

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ETA: Not much FF value barring injury. But value to this team... :thumbup: :thumbup:

 
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The way #4 has been throwing the ball this year, I'd take a 4 wide set of Driver/Jennings/Jones/Robinson. If anything, it would open up running lanes. Let's not forget about the upgrade on special teams. :lmao: :thumbup:ETA: Not much FF value barring injury. But value to this team... :thumbup: :thumbup:
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KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
Robinson's top-end speed is the only tool he's really ever shown. You are very wrong about that foot race. Robinson would run circles around all three of the other WR's assuming his knee is sound, which it reportedly is.
He might...though I have never seen him really show it. Especially not his time with Green Bay.And Driver is faster than some think.
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
How long ago was college?
 
sho nuff said:
Just Win Baby said:
sho nuff said:
Cheesedawg said:
sho nuff said:
KRob has better deep speed than any other GB WR. His presence on the field will require the opposing to take him into account. He probably won't be a fantasy contributor directly, but he should bump the greatest QB in NFL history, Favre, up a few notches and help the Packers win some games. The Packers should be pretty much unstopable and will challenge for the NFC Championship.A big difference between the Packers and the Vikings. The Vikings would take a chance on any bum and hope he pans out. Hence, they signed KRob the bum and he got arrested. The Packers are highly concerned with character, and would only sign somebody like KRob if he has reformed. The KRob the Packers signed was completely different from the KRob the Vikings signed.
Where is all this supposed deep speed?Is it the 13 career TDs?I would bet in a foot race between he, Driver, Jennings, and Jones...he would come in 3rd with Jones right on his tail.I see him more as the posession WR/return guy (which is where I saw him when they signed him).
Robinson's top-end speed is the only tool he's really ever shown. You are very wrong about that foot race. Robinson would run circles around all three of the other WR's assuming his knee is sound, which it reportedly is.
He might...though I have never seen him really show it. Especially not his time with Green Bay.And Driver is faster than some think.
Robinson ran a sub 4.4 40 in college. I have seen 4.32 to 4.38 mentioned in the past. Kiper had him rated as his #1 WR coming out, and he was absolutely explosive in college. I know he hasn't produced in the NFL, and he probably will never live up to his potential. But speed is a strength for him.
How long ago was college?
7 years ago (2000 was his final college season). He's only 27, so I wouldn't think he's lost much as long as he is healthy and working to stay in shape.
 
Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.

He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
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Thank God. The way you're hatin' makes it sound like Koren stole your wife...
I'm not hatin'. I'm just telling the truth based on watching the guy every week he's played since the Seahawks drafted him. Just because it's not something you want to hear you call it hatin'. That's a cop out. Provide me one single solitary piece of evidence that shows that Koren can be a viable fantasy or GB WR option
Prime example...Last week's game vs. Chi: GB is down by 7 and needing a late score. Jennings and Jones are out due to injury. Driver is paired opposite of Ruvell Martin?!? No disrespect to the Saginaw Valley State alums on FBG, but :football: ...Then Favre comes out this week saying about Robinson: "I think he can offer a lot"...probably wished he had him in there for that drive.

 
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Sorry, but flying around over 100 mph while drunk and several DUIs on record DOES make you a bad person. Repeatedly taking the lives of others into his hands, while a symptom of alcoholism, still makes you a bad guy because when you plan on getting drunk and driving hime, after all the times it's already gotten you in trouble, it shows that you just don't give a damn.

He was also suspended by the team (Seattle) at least twice in his stint there for disciplinary reasons, so the nice guy image is a bit thin.
I don't think Koren is a bad person. Why do you keep capitalizing some of your words?
emphasis and initials
Thank God. The way you're hatin' makes it sound like Koren stole your wife...
I'm not hatin'. I'm just telling the truth based on watching the guy every week he's played since the Seahawks drafted him. Just because it's not something you want to hear you call it hatin'. That's a cop out. Provide me one single solitary piece of evidence that shows that Koren can be a viable fantasy or GB WR option
Prime example...Last week's game vs. Chi: GB is down by 7 and needing a late score. Jennings and Jones are out due to injury. Driver is paired opposite of Ruvell Martin?!? No disrespect to the Saginaw Valley State alums on FBG, but :rolleyes: ...Then Favre comes out this week saying about Robinson: "I think he can offer a lot"...probably wished he had him in there for that drive.
We've established that Favre wants him out there, but I don't see how that proves that Koren is going to come in there and actually catch the balls thrown at him. Favre has had very few games with Koren to base his opnion on and he is going off what Koren has lived on for his entire career, potential. The proof is that when he is in the game, he drops the balls, period. Favre could wish for a new Reggie White but that doesn't mean some underachiever on his team is going to step up and be Reggie White. Sure it would be nice to have someone other than Ruvell Martin in there, but just wishing that Koren was in pads doesn't change the fact that HE CAN"T CATCH. So again, until you have some proof that Koren can be a viable (not to be confused with simply available) fantasy or NFL option... :rolleyes:
 
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