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KR/PR Info or Insight? (2 Viewers)
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Mike Herman
Footballguy
MIA"[brown and Chatman] will probably be our return guys. We want to focus Ted [Ginn Jr.] on punt returns. That takes a lot of work and I'd like to see him get a lot of work on that."- Cam CameronBAL - The Ravens continued to list Clayton on their depth chart for both up until recently, as they did last year, but that's very misleading. They briefly considered using him when B.J. Sams got hurt last year, but never did. Cory Ross and Corey Ivy got the call. This year B.J. Sams, Yamon Figurs, Cory Ross, Corey Ivy, and Donnie Johnson are all ahead of him for returns.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Wow. Not sure why the Phins would use Ronnie for KR but it's interesting.
Is Wes Welker indeed going to be the KR/PR guy? I've read Faulk could be the guy.
Is Wes Welker indeed going to be the KR/PR guy? I've read Faulk could be the guy.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
If I had to hazard a guess at this juncture, I'd say it will be return-by-committee for the Pats. Welker, Faulk, Morris, Hobbs, Andrews and/or Maroney.
Mighty Bruin
Footballguy
Mike Herman
Footballguy
HOU - Rookie WR Jacoby Jones had an 80 yard punt return TD in this week's game. He is also competing for the WR2 spot.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Jones has been impressive and at worst appears to be the #3 WR, even with McCardell in the mix. Mathis should be the kick returner while Jones does PR, and it's very possible Jones could unseat Kevin Walter at WR2 at some point...
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
We are in the opposite boat in terms of return production. Any defensive player that can return kicks/punts are golden in our league? Last year Justin Miller and T. McGee were studs. Any insight on defensive players returning kicks?
tombonneau
Footballguy
As a Pats homer, this is correct. BB uses situational strategy with his PRs. Depending on what he wants out of the return he uses different players.I wouldn't count on too much from Welker in the return game, unless he is taking back kicks, which I have seen no indication of that happening.Someone asked a question about using KR/PR yardage what happens to D/ST. In my league, I stripped ST points away from D so now they just get pure D points. Any return yardage goes to players only. Seems to work well and no complaints.I just picked up Hester in this league. Any Bears homers have any insight into how much he'll be worked into the offense?I crunched the numbers, and even if Hester's return production is cut in half (120 pts last year=WR40 in 14-teamer i.e. highly rosterable) that would give him about 60 pts returning, supplement that with some respectable WR3 numbers, and he's easily a WR3.But my question is will he even get consistent playing time, or will it be more of a 2-3 play a game gimmick situation? Everything I read says he looks real comfortable at WR. Any chance he becomes a legit slot guy?
purestrength
Footballguy
On the first page of this thread, I saw Ladell Betts listed as one of three names for Washington.
Anyone know what his return status is?
TIA
Anyone know what his return status is?
TIA
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Mike Herman
Footballguy
DET - Eddie Drummond is very likely on his way out in Detroit. Ellis, McDonald, and/or Walters would replace him.
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Mike Herman
Footballguy
MIAMI
''You get yards in this business going north and south. Very few guys can go east and west and get yards. And that's just part of the process. But we've only had two preseason games. We're halfway through the preseason games and these next two weeks will be a good opportunity for him.''
- HC Cam Cameron on Ted Ginn Jr.'s tendency to run laterally on punt returns
''You get yards in this business going north and south. Very few guys can go east and west and get yards. And that's just part of the process. But we've only had two preseason games. We're halfway through the preseason games and these next two weeks will be a good opportunity for him.''
- HC Cam Cameron on Ted Ginn Jr.'s tendency to run laterally on punt returns
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Yes, although WR Brandon Williams could also become more involved on kickoff returns.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
SAN DIEGO
RB Darren Sproles helped his job security odds with an 81 yard punt return TD at St. Louis... although the Rams tend to be generous in that department.
RB Darren Sproles helped his job security odds with an 81 yard punt return TD at St. Louis... although the Rams tend to be generous in that department.
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Mike Herman
Footballguy
BALTIMORE
"It was great blocking upfront. The fullback got his man, everybody blocked and kicked out the safeties and it just opened up for me."
- rookie WR Yamon Figurs after his 52 yard KR
"It was great blocking upfront. The fullback got his man, everybody blocked and kicked out the safeties and it just opened up for me."
- rookie WR Yamon Figurs after his 52 yard KR
Mike Herman
Footballguy
NY GIANTS
Signed safety/KR J.R. Reed. A fence climbing accident prematurely ended his career with Eagles the other year.
Signed safety/KR J.R. Reed. A fence climbing accident prematurely ended his career with Eagles the other year.
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Portis 26
Madden Freak
Is Sproles doing both kickoff and punt returns fulltime?
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Odds are that he will be the primary returner on both, although Craig Davis may handle some punt returns, and Norv Turner recently indicated that Antonio Cromartie will handle some regular season kickoff returns.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
This is a seriously underrated thread. Thanks to Mike Herman and others that are contributing.
Article about NE Return Men
This article lists the seven guys that are practicing returns for the Pats right now. They talk like they could send someone different out every game, though I would be surprised to see that actually happen. Regardless, none of them look like safe bets to me right now.
This article lists the seven guys that are practicing returns for the Pats right now. They talk like they could send someone different out every game, though I would be surprised to see that actually happen. Regardless, none of them look like safe bets to me right now.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Wow....a lot has been posted since I last looked in here.
A quick summary (correct me if I'm wrong):
-Ted Ginn is not going to do KR, but PR only...but Ronnie Brown & Chatman will do KR's for Miami.
-Wes Welker is not going to be an every return guy in NE.
-WR Jacoby Jones for Houston will most likely return punts, and could be the #2 WR for the Texans.
-Eddie Drummond is most likely not going to be a Lion.
A quick summary (correct me if I'm wrong):
-Ted Ginn is not going to do KR, but PR only...but Ronnie Brown & Chatman will do KR's for Miami.
-Wes Welker is not going to be an every return guy in NE.
-WR Jacoby Jones for Houston will most likely return punts, and could be the #2 WR for the Texans.
-Eddie Drummond is most likely not going to be a Lion.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Rock Cartwright and James Thrash are first in line for returning kicks for Washington. Betts would step in for one of them if needed.ARE is the PR.
To commish is my wish
Footballguy
And Bush, to a degree, methinks.mozzy84 said:
Mike Herman
Footballguy
ARIZONA
"I think it's pretty obvious that Steve [breaston] has just kind of distanced himself from everyone else. He looks comfortable back there, and the thing I like is he's not afraid to hit the hole."
- HC Ken Whisenhunt
"I think it's pretty obvious that Steve [breaston] has just kind of distanced himself from everyone else. He looks comfortable back there, and the thing I like is he's not afraid to hit the hole."
- HC Ken Whisenhunt
Will Breaston return Kicks, punts, or both? Also, what's going on with the Jets, is Brad Miller still the PR? And is Chris Gamble going to be returning punts this season or is Ryne Robinson taking over that too?
Gamble was horrible returning punts last year so I would say no to him. It seems that Ryne should be taking that position, at least he tries to run forward and not to the sideline like Gamble.ONE VERY VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is MJD the for sure KR in Jacksonville? He was like 6th RB in my yahoo league cuz he returned kicks. 1 pt for 30yds. I don't think most folks know that in my league.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
There are no sure things in this world, especially in fantasy football, but Jones-Drew should return kickoffs and Northcutt should return punts for the Jaguars.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Anything more definitive lately on his role since the page 1 July mentions?
greenline
Footballguy
Yeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
2006 KICKOFF RETURN YARDS1st, 1762 yards, Chris CarrYeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
10th, 1207 yards, Dante Hall
20th, 772 yards, B.J. Sams
30th, 546 yards, Tyson Thompson
2006 PUNT RETURN YARDS
1st, 600 yards, Devin Hester
10th, 322 yards, Nate Burleson
20th, 216 yards, Reggie Bush
30th, 155 yards, Mark Jones
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
What about team totals? We only get points for return yards by D/ST and not individual players. Anywhere to find D/ST rankings based on that and rankings based on that in conjunction with the other defensive scoring?2006 KICKOFF RETURN YARDS1st, 1762 yards, Chris CarrYeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
10th, 1207 yards, Dante Hall
20th, 772 yards, B.J. Sams
30th, 546 yards, Tyson Thompson
2006 PUNT RETURN YARDS
1st, 600 yards, Devin Hester
10th, 322 yards, Nate Burleson
20th, 216 yards, Reggie Bush
30th, 155 yards, Mark Jones
Jayrod
Footballguy
NFL.com carries the team stats and you can probably find a sorted list of team return yards in there.What about team totals? We only get points for return yards by D/ST and not individual players. Anywhere to find D/ST rankings based on that and rankings based on that in conjunction with the other defensive scoring?2006 KICKOFF RETURN YARDS1st, 1762 yards, Chris CarrYeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
10th, 1207 yards, Dante Hall
20th, 772 yards, B.J. Sams
30th, 546 yards, Tyson Thompson
2006 PUNT RETURN YARDS
1st, 600 yards, Devin Hester
10th, 322 yards, Nate Burleson
20th, 216 yards, Reggie Bush
30th, 155 yards, Mark Jones
Jayrod
Footballguy
OK, so I just looked and it looks like all of the team stats have been cleared out at NFL.com.It used to be there, but now everything is zeros. They still have the individual stats up. Sorry.NFL.com carries the team stats and you can probably find a sorted list of team return yards in there.What about team totals? We only get points for return yards by D/ST and not individual players. Anywhere to find D/ST rankings based on that and rankings based on that in conjunction with the other defensive scoring?2006 KICKOFF RETURN YARDS1st, 1762 yards, Chris CarrYeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
10th, 1207 yards, Dante Hall
20th, 772 yards, B.J. Sams
30th, 546 yards, Tyson Thompson
2006 PUNT RETURN YARDS
1st, 600 yards, Devin Hester
10th, 322 yards, Nate Burleson
20th, 216 yards, Reggie Bush
30th, 155 yards, Mark Jones
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Yahoo has ST totals for return yards but not combined. Plus with players moving around I'm not sure how accurate they are. Seems like return guys change a lot.OK, so I just looked and it looks like all of the team stats have been cleared out at NFL.com.It used to be there, but now everything is zeros. They still have the individual stats up. Sorry.NFL.com carries the team stats and you can probably find a sorted list of team return yards in there.What about team totals? We only get points for return yards by D/ST and not individual players. Anywhere to find D/ST rankings based on that and rankings based on that in conjunction with the other defensive scoring?2006 KICKOFF RETURN YARDS1st, 1762 yards, Chris CarrYeah I'd like to see legit projections across the board. I would if I had time but I cannot. Return yards are worth alot in my league. Mike you have been awesome with this info. Thank you so much.
10th, 1207 yards, Dante Hall
20th, 772 yards, B.J. Sams
30th, 546 yards, Tyson Thompson
2006 PUNT RETURN YARDS
1st, 600 yards, Devin Hester
10th, 322 yards, Nate Burleson
20th, 216 yards, Reggie Bush
30th, 155 yards, Mark Jones
ExtremeFajita
Footballguy
In my league you have to designate one player as your Returner and he ONLY receives stats for kick/punt returns. Scoring is generous:
1 point per return (kickoff or punt)
1 point per 10 return yards
Obviously players who handle punts and kickoffs are most valuable in this format. THe only ones I can think of are:
D Hester
D Hall
D Sproles
J Miller
N Burleson
S Breaston
R Robinson
C Finegan
Just wondering how I should rank my cheatsheet in this format...draft is tonight. Thanks!!
1 point per return (kickoff or punt)
1 point per 10 return yards
Obviously players who handle punts and kickoffs are most valuable in this format. THe only ones I can think of are:
D Hester
D Hall
D Sproles
J Miller
N Burleson
S Breaston
R Robinson
C Finegan
Just wondering how I should rank my cheatsheet in this format...draft is tonight. Thanks!!
Mike Herman
Footballguy
COMBINED KR/PR YARDS 20062299 Tennessee
2142 San Francisco
2046 Detroit
2027 Oakland
2004 Cleveland
1980 Chicago
1976 New England
1972 Seattle
1971 Washington
1927 Buffalo
1864 Minnesota
1863 Arizona
1853 Houston
1832 Atlanta
1827 Dallas
1792 Green Bay
1752 New Orleans
1730 San Diego
1694 NY Giants
1690 NY Jets
1666 Kansas City
1656 Tampa Bay
1619 St. Louis
1576 Indianapolis
1545 Philadelphia
1501 Pittsburgh
1497 Jacksonville
1482 Denver
1480 Miami
1447 Cincinnati
1428 Carolina
1395 Baltimore
turnit643
Footballguy
DETROIT
From Rotoworld:
NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports that Eddie Drummond has been released.
Drummond made the Pro Bowl as a returner in in 2004, but hasn't returned a kick for a TD since. His ability as a WR hadn't impressed and the Lions didn't want to keep him as just a returner.
From Rotoworld:
NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports that Eddie Drummond has been released.
Drummond made the Pro Bowl as a returner in in 2004, but hasn't returned a kick for a TD since. His ability as a WR hadn't impressed and the Lions didn't want to keep him as just a returner.
mozzy84
Footballguy
Grandville
Footballguy
Mike Herman,If you were to guess who was going to replace Drummond on PR/KRs would you say it's S. McDonald? What are the odds that he would get the job? I have a draft on Friday evening that this legue gives big points for return yards and some drafters won't be aware that Drummond was cut and I don't think anyone will know who is going to be the replacement.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
McDonald probably wouldn't handle both. If I had to guess today, I'd say Troy Walters. Devale Ellis chances' are being hurt by injury.Grandville said:
turnit643
Footballguy
Mike,
In Chicago, Hester is set to handle the punts, but do you expect him to get a majority of the kickoff duties this year with Davis/Manning/Wolfe getting some as well? Last year's final returnerguys info had a 32/20/8 KO return split (Davis/Hester/others) and I don't see Hester getting KO returns in the preseason boxes so far.
In Chicago, Hester is set to handle the punts, but do you expect him to get a majority of the kickoff duties this year with Davis/Manning/Wolfe getting some as well? Last year's final returnerguys info had a 32/20/8 KO return split (Davis/Hester/others) and I don't see Hester getting KO returns in the preseason boxes so far.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
So basically the inverse of the team defense rankings. Oof. Need to add those points to the rest of the defensive rankings and see where they end up I guess.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Keep in mind that Hester did not start returning kickoffs last year until the last third of the season. He will return kickoffs this year. The Bears are looking to lineup two returners deep on kickoffs, so they have less laterally running to get under the ball.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
OAKLAND
The return specialist competition continues. Against the Rams, incumbent Chris Carr had an 81 yard kickoff return. Challenger Johnnie Lee Higgins had a 56 yard punt return for an apparent score, although it was negated by a penalty.
The return specialist competition continues. Against the Rams, incumbent Chris Carr had an 81 yard kickoff return. Challenger Johnnie Lee Higgins had a 56 yard punt return for an apparent score, although it was negated by a penalty.
