Kubiak: "Domanic Davis will not be cut" (1 Viewer)

[gbill2004]

Texans coach Gary Kubiak says that Domanick Davis will not be cut."The idea of cutting Domanick has not even played a factor," Kubiak said. "I don’t know where that came from." Unless the team decides to use a roster spot to wait on Davis' troublesome knee, he'll likely be placed in IR.Source: houstontexans.com

 

[Interseptopus]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get Lundy

This is clearly a

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

IR

Doesn't that mean done for the year ??

 

[3C's]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

 

[gbill2004]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

Yes.

 

[massraider]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

Yep, but the wording there by the Texans website is sort of stupid. They have three choices:1. Keep him on the roster2. Cut him3. IR himKubiak has eliminated one of the possibilities. So, duh, if they choose to not use a roster spot they "likely" will IR him. No, I actually think they will "definitely" IR him.I think the most likely scenario is they keep him on the roster, and wait him out a bit.

 

[Bojang0301]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get LundyThis is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

 

[gbill2004]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get LundyThis is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

Kubiak already named Lundy the week one starter.

 

[redman]

Kubiak already named Lundy RBBC the week one starter.

Fixed.

 

[Ned]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get Lundy

This is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

Kubiak already named Lundy the week one starter.

only

 

[Gopher State]

looking more and more like DD out of the year. Lundy moving up the charts fast

 

[huckyoda]

Lundy Express departs week 1. Who's on board?

 

[massraider]

Lundy Express departs week 1. Who's on board?

Choo Choo!!(If he has a big game, he's getting traded so fast, there'll be a vapor trail)

 

[Beaumont]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

Yep, but the wording there by the Texans website is sort of stupid. They have three choices:1. Keep him on the roster2. Cut him3. IR himKubiak has eliminated one of the possibilities. So, duh, if they choose to not use a roster spot they "likely" will IR him. No, I actually think they will "definitely" IR him.I think the most likely scenario is they keep him on the roster, and wait him out a bit.

PUP?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

Yep, but the wording there by the Texans website is sort of stupid. They have three choices:1. Keep him on the roster2. Cut him3. IR himKubiak has eliminated one of the possibilities. So, duh, if they choose to not use a roster spot they "likely" will IR him. No, I actually think they will "definitely" IR him.I think the most likely scenario is they keep him on the roster, and wait him out a bit.

PUP?

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

 

[SteelerMurf]

DD will not be cut unless it is a career ending injury.

My guess is they put him on IR and try to get him fixed up for next year.

 

[Wheelhouse]

FWIW - I have been targeting the Texans RB situation all preseason. I elected to go with Morency in both of my drafts when Lundy was still on the board. Here's why...

Pre-season week 2 at STL

ATT YDS TD LGV. Morency 11 95 2 43W. Lundy 7 40 0 21D. Rhodes 2 9 0 7S. Rosenfels 1 -1 0 -1Keep in mind, Morency did not play PS-week 1 due to a hip injury. The race is very close, but I just think Morency and his experience will be enough to win the job sooner as opposed to later.

2006 pre-season

Player			No	Yds	Avg	Long	TDWali Lundy	26	143	5.5	25	1Vernand Morency	24	131	5.5	43	2

 

[DrJ]

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. Didn't Julius Jones get hurt in the regular season in his rookie year and go on PUP? Unless DD came to camp with a bruised bone in his knee, and passed the physical despite having a bruised bone in his knee, I don't see how this isn't a new injury that would make him eligible.

 

[wannabee]

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. Didn't Julius Jones get hurt in the regular season in his rookie year and go on PUP? Unless DD came to camp with a bruised bone in his knee, and passed the physical despite having a bruised bone in his knee, I don't see how this isn't a new injury that would make him eligible.

this was established (and confirmed by Kubik) in one of the many Davis threads going on right now

 

[duaneok66]

This is clearly a

that will NEVER get old . . .

 

[duaneok66]

FWIW - I have been targeting the Texans RB situation all preseason. I elected to go with Morency in both of my drafts when Lundy was still on the board. Here's why...

Pre-season week 2 at STL

ATT YDS TD LGV. Morency 11 95 2 43W. Lundy 7 40 0 21D. Rhodes 2 9 0 7S. Rosenfels 1 -1 0 -1Keep in mind, Morency did not play PS-week 1 due to a hip injury. The race is very close, but I just think Morency and his experience will be enough to win the job sooner as opposed to later.

2006 pre-season

Player			No	Yds	Avg	Long	TDWali Lundy	26	143	5.5	25	1Vernand Morency	24	131	5.5	43	2

Morency may be the better player, but you can't take preseason stats at face value . . . Lundy played primarily against 1st team defenses, while Morency played against a lot of people that will have 9 to 5 jobs this fall . . .

 

[kwille]

So, does this make Bush 1.01?

 

[wannabee]

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. Didn't Julius Jones get hurt in the regular season in his rookie year and go on PUP? Unless DD came to camp with a bruised bone in his knee, and passed the physical despite having a bruised bone in his knee, I don't see how this isn't a new injury that would make him eligible.

this was established (and confirmed by Kubiak) in one of the many Davis threads going on right now

Here is a news blurb:

Davis can't go on PUP

Published Tue Aug 29 10:53:00 a.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) Domanick Davis can't be placed on the physically-unable-to-perform (PUP) list.

Impact: Under league rules, anyone that passes a team physical to open camp and practices can't be placed on the PUP list. This means Houston would have to release Davis or place him on injured reserve if they don't feel they can use a roster spot waiting for him to get healthy. The most likely scenario is that Davis will be placed on I.R., ending his season. Stay away in fantasy leagues.

 

[tommyGunZ]

FWIW - I have been targeting the Texans RB situation all preseason.

 

[fsufan]

If DD is put on the IR how long is that for? Year?

 

[moondawg]

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I'm not entirely sure this is accurate. Didn't Julius Jones get hurt in the regular season in his rookie year and go on PUP? Unless DD came to camp with a bruised bone in his knee, and passed the physical despite having a bruised bone in his knee, I don't see how this isn't a new injury that would make him eligible.

JJ did get injured his rookie year but was carried on the 53 man roster until he could play again.Players can only be placed on the PUP if they do not pass their physical before training camp begins. A player who is still on the PUP list when the season begins must wait until after week 6 of the season before a team has to decide to put them on the active roster or IR.Teams have a three week window after week 6 to make the decision on the player. During that window the player can return to practice with the team but does not count against the 53 man limit. A player placed on the PUP list at the start of training camp can be removed from the PUP at any time during camp but cannot practice with the team while on the PUP list. They may rehabilitate their injury and participate in team meetings, etc . A player injured during the season can go on IR and be lost for that season or be carried on the 53 man roster until he is able to play again that season. That's what the Cowboys did with JJ his rookie year.

 

[3C's]

This is clearly a

that will NEVER get old . . .

It got old a while back

 

[Jmon]

Just wondering if Lundy can block in pass protection as this is likely a vital factor in whether or not he gets lots of touches. There have been a few rookies sat down for missing blocks as QB's are tough to replace. Morency from reports I've read is a pretty solid blocker. Can anyone shed more light on this?

 

[Bojang0301]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get LundyThis is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

Kubiak already named Lundy the week one starter.

 

[cantrell]

I dropped Davis and claimed Marion Barber off waivers.

 

[duaneok66]

Just wondering if Lundy can block in pass protection as this is likely a vital factor in whether or not he gets lots of touches. There have been a few rookies sat down for missing blocks as QB's are tough to replace. Morency from reports I've read is a pretty solid blocker. Can anyone shed more light on this?

Lundy looked horrible in week 2 in pass protection; on Sunday, Morency blew an assignment and almost got Ronsenfels killed . . . you make the call . . .

 

[djb916420]

Kubiak already named Lundy RBBC the week one starter.

Fixed.

 

[3C's]

Just wondering if Lundy can block in pass protection as this is likely a vital factor in whether or not he gets lots of touches. There have been a few rookies sat down for missing blocks as QB's are tough to replace. Morency from reports I've read is a pretty solid blocker. Can anyone shed more light on this?

Lundy looked horrible in week 2 in pass protection; on Sunday, Morency blew an assignment and almost got Ronsenfels killed . . . you make the call . . .

Morency is the better blocker, but Lundy hasn't been bad. And in the preseason Lundy has been going against the better defensive players.

 

[Bri]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

Yep, but the wording there by the Texans website is sort of stupid. They have three choices:1. Keep him on the roster2. Cut him3. IR himKubiak has eliminated one of the possibilities. So, duh, if they choose to not use a roster spot they "likely" will IR him. No, I actually think they will "definitely" IR him.I think the most likely scenario is they keep him on the roster, and wait him out a bit.

PUP?

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I don't believe this is true. I think a player must start camp with an injury. There's some wording like "start" or begins" in that rule

 

[Bri]

I dropped Davis and claimed Marion Barber off waivers.

deep league

 

[Bri]

DD is inelligible for the PUP list as he was in camp for a while.

I don't believe this is true. I think a player must start camp with an injury. There's some wording like "start" or begins" in that rule

herehysically Unable to Perform (PUP) List: A player who fails his club's pre-season physical at the start of training camp may be placed on the club's Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list. A player on PUP is eligible to receive his salary, but is ineligible for games and practices; he is, however, allowed to attend team meetings. For a three week period beginning with the day after the club's 6th regular season game and ending on the day after the 9th regular season game, a player on PUP may practice with his club and/or be restored to the club's 53 man roster (provided it is done before the day after the 9th regular season game).

 

[Bojang0301]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get LundyThis is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

Kubiak already named Lundy the week one starter.

I'm still waiting. Obviously the best play is to grab both but thus far it has been Morency ahead of Lundy on the depth chart... He also has more talent, IMO.

 

[CrossEyed]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get Lundy

This is clearly a

Morency is the play not Lundy, methinks.

Kubiak already named Lundy the week one starter.

I'm still waiting. Obviously the best play is to grab both but thus far it has been Morency ahead of Lundy on the depth chart... He also has more talent, IMO.

Here you go.

Regardless of what decision is made, Davis will not be available for Houston's opener against Philadelphia and rookie Wali Lundy will start in his place.

 

[Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly]

Same difference. Don't draft Davis, get LundyThis is clearly a

This is good schtick.

 

[BigRed]

Texans coach Gary Kubiak says that Domanick Davis will not be cut."The idea of cutting Domanick has not even played a factor," Kubiak said. "I don’t know where that came from." Unless the team decides to use a roster spot to wait on Davis' troublesome knee, he'll likely be placed in IR.Source: houstontexans.com

wow you mean this was some lame mediaspeak that some moron sports "reporter" threw out just to get attention, there's a shocker DD flying up the charts!

 

[Todem]

IRDoesn't that mean done for the year ??

That's what IR means.And it is looking more and more like that will happen.Just a guess here, but if he can't get on the field by mid-season they do it. Or they have a serious sit down before the final cut and do it then because they want to keep a fringe guy instead of letting him go on the hopes Davis can suit up very soon.I really think that is what it has come down to.

 

[Righetti]

I'm still waiting. Obviously the best play is to grab both but thus far it has been Morency ahead of Lundy on the depth chart... He also has more talent, IMO.

Here you go.

Regardless of what decision is made, Davis will not be available for Houston's opener against Philadelphia and rookie Wali Lundy will start in his place.

CrossEye.. you are a better man than I am... I saw that little angry link demand and thought to myself.. "this guy should look on page 1 of the sharkpool, it's only been discussed in about 10 threads since that Sunday Night game" to you Crosseye

 

[DWidmar]

I'm still waiting. Obviously the best play is to grab both but thus far it has been Morency ahead of Lundy on the depth chart... He also has more talent, IMO.

Here you go.

Regardless of what decision is made, Davis will not be available for Houston's opener against Philadelphia and rookie Wali Lundy will start in his place.

CrossEye.. you are a better man than I am... I saw that little angry link demand and thought to myself.. "this guy should look on page 1 of the sharkpool, it's only been discussed in about 10 threads since that Sunday Night game" to you Crosseye

 

[JayMan]

IR

Doesn't that mean done for the year ??

That's what IR means.And it is looking more and more like that will happen.

Just a guess here, but if he can't get on the field by mid-season they do it. Or they have a serious sit down before the final cut and do it then because they want to keep a fringe guy instead of letting him go on the hopes Davis can suit up very soon.

I really think that is what it has come down to.

Sorry if this is a honda but I've not seen it posted here after a few looks...Dom Davis placed on IR for '06? - per Sportsline.com:

News: The Houston Chronicle reports that Texans RB Domanick Davis, who has been suffering with a bruised knee and has missed all but two days of training camp with the club, is a candidate for the Injured Reserve list, according to head coach Gary Kubiak. "Domanick is a big part of this team, as I've said all along, but if his knee isn't healthy enough for him to play, then he's looking at injured reserve," Kubiak said. "I don't know what's going to happen. We've got to sit down as a group to discuss the situation." A day earlier, the newspaper suggested that Davis might be waived. Davis is not a candidate for the Physically Unable to Perform list since he passed the Texans' physical at the start of training camp. Kubiak also said earlier that if the season started now, rookie Wali Lundy would start at running back and second-year rusher Vernand Morency would also get some carries.

Analysis: Kubiak will meet with Davis, his agent and team doctors to discuss the running back's future. If the doctors feel like Davis' knee will be back to normal in a few weeks, he'll make the final roster. Otherwise, they'll ice him for the season, making him useless in seasonal Fantasy leagues. Since he's missed so much time already, and because Lundy and Morency have been impressive, we're thinking Davis won't play in 2006. If you have yet to draft, move up Lundy and Morency on your rank lists and drop Davis way down. If you own Davis, your best move is to try and trade for another running back (Lundy and Morency would be two good options) and wait to release Davis until his 2006 status is determined.

link

 

[Bri]

IR

Doesn't that mean done for the year ??

That's what IR means.And it is looking more and more like that will happen.

Just a guess here, but if he can't get on the field by mid-season they do it. Or they have a serious sit down before the final cut and do it then because they want to keep a fringe guy instead of letting him go on the hopes Davis can suit up very soon.

I really think that is what it has come down to.

Sorry if this is a honda but I've not seen it posted here after a few looks...Dom Davis placed on IR for '06? - per Sportsline.com:

News: The Houston Chronicle reports that Texans RB Domanick Davis, who has been suffering with a bruised knee and has missed all but two days of training camp with the club, is a candidate for the Injured Reserve list, according to head coach Gary Kubiak. "Domanick is a big part of this team, as I've said all along, but if his knee isn't healthy enough for him to play, then he's looking at injured reserve," Kubiak said. "I don't know what's going to happen. We've got to sit down as a group to discuss the situation." A day earlier, the newspaper suggested that Davis might be waived. Davis is not a candidate for the Physically Unable to Perform list since he passed the Texans' physical at the start of training camp. Kubiak also said earlier that if the season started now, rookie Wali Lundy would start at running back and second-year rusher Vernand Morency would also get some carries.

Analysis: Kubiak will meet with Davis, his agent and team doctors to discuss the running back's future. If the doctors feel like Davis' knee will be back to normal in a few weeks, he'll make the final roster. Otherwise, they'll ice him for the season, making him useless in seasonal Fantasy leagues. Since he's missed so much time already, and because Lundy and Morency have been impressive, we're thinking Davis won't play in 2006. If you have yet to draft, move up Lundy and Morency on your rank lists and drop Davis way down. If you own Davis, your best move is to try and trade for another running back (Lundy and Morency would be two good options) and wait to release Davis until his 2006 status is determined.

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How's he miss some time at the beginning of camp and pass the physical? Kubiak's gotta learn to fail alot of people like BB does.