Kurt Warner: Headed to Detroit ? (1 Viewer)

[azcards33]

The Cardinals have already expressed interest in keeping Warner, and it is believed that they have begun negotiations with Warner's agent as well in hopes of getting a new deal worked out prior to Free Agency.

However, I was listening to local sports talk out here in Arizona ('From the Bleachers' on KDUS 1060) and they were saying that Warner could possibly end up signing with Detroit, once he becomes an UFA (if he and the Cardinals cannot come to terms on a new deal.)

A move to Detroit would reunite Warner with Mike Martz, who was recently hired as the Lions' OC

Take it for what it's worth, but this move would make alot of sense to me and the speculation should make locking Warner up with a new deal even more urgent for the Cardinals

From the St. Louis Dispatch:

Could Mike Martz and Kurt Warner have a reunion in Motown? Don't rule it out. Martz, the Detroit Lions' new offensive coordinator, patched up his relationship with Warner after their falling out in St. Louis. Martz has confided to associates that if he ever needed a quarterback in his new destination - and he needs one in Detroit - he wouldn't hesitate to bring Warner in. Warner, who spent the 2005 season with Arizona, is a free agent.

And what does Warner think? He's open to the idea of rejoining Martz. This is what Warner told Jeff Vernetti of KSLG (1380 AM) in an interview that will air today between 10 a.m. and noon: "With what we did offensively, and his offensive mind, and just as an offensive football coach, I haven't been around any better (than Martz). That always would be intriguing. And knowing the (Martz) system, loving the system, and feeling like it plays into my strengths. All of those things would be plusses. They've got a lot of skill guys there (in Detroit), they've got a lot of talent there, similar to what we had in St. Louis. You look at it from that standpoint, and I think it would be really exciting. It would be fun. And I know we would play the game that I play. I would be doing what I feel comfortable doing. And it would be a lot of fun - similar to the kind of innovative things that we did in our time in St. Louis."

 

[MLBrandow]

They could still trade for Culpepper. Both teams have a very large cap cushion.... Certainly Culpepper would be better than Warner.

Then they can keep McCown to play until Culpepper is healthy perhaps....

just spouting off some more thoughts.

A Warner to Detroit move sounds pretty good to me.

 

[drpill]

Wasn't Martz's offense pretty much responsible for ten Kurt Warner concussions?

 

[Weiner Dog]

I would have to think Green is stalling for the remote possibility he lands 'Pepper. Warner's 2-8 record last year cannot give Green that "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06.

 

[The Tick]

Wasn't Martz's offense pretty much responsible for ten Kurt Warner concussions?

That and a horrible offensive line...I think this makes a lot of sense providing Warner is willing to play for Martz again and doesn't get signed before FA starts. Martz will want to run his offense, and he has always talked about how hard of an offense it is for quarterbacks, and wasn't even comfortable with Bulger the first couple years.

I don't see any way how he will be able to teach a full new team his offense without some help. Getting his old QB back to at least start the year will give him some help installing his offense, and give him time to look at his younger QB’s who may or may not suck as they slowly learn their way in.

 

[Fumbleweed]

I would have to think Green is stalling for the remote possibility he lands 'Pepper. Warner's 2-8 record last year cannot give Green that "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06.

The 2-8 record falls on the team as a whole, not just Warner. The team had no offensive line, no running game, and a porous defense at times. Many other starting QBs would have been 2-8 as well..........

 

[Aaronstory]

I would have to think Green is stalling for the remote possibility he lands 'Pepper.  Warner's 2-8 record last year cannot give Green that "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06.

The 2-8 record falls on the team as a whole, not just Warner. The team had no offensive line, no running game, and a porous defense at times. Many other starting QBs would have been 2-8 as well..........

Could not agree more. Good grief, the guy was putting up 300 yards every week. It doesn't help if you can't run the ball or stop people from scoring...

 

[cstu]

I would have to think Green is stalling for the remote possibility he lands 'Pepper. Warner's 2-8 record last year cannot give Green that "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06.

I can't imagine bringing in a QB coming off an ACL injury gives him a "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06 either.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

The 2-8 record is due to only one 100 rush game all season. I think Warner did a fine job given no running game.

 

[Blackjacks]

Wasn't Martz's offense pretty much responsible for ten Kurt Warner concussions?

That and a horrible offensive line...I think this makes a lot of sense providing Warner is willing to play for Martz again and doesn't get signed before FA starts. Martz will want to run his offense, and he has always talked about how hard of an offense it is for quarterbacks, and wasn't even comfortable with Bulger the first couple years.

I don't see any way how he will be able to teach a full new team his offense without some help. Getting his old QB back to at least start the year will give him some help installing his offense, and give him time to look at his younger QB’s who may or may not suck as they slowly learn their way in.

Horrible offensive line? That horrible offensive line got the rams to the playoffs 3 out of 3 years for the rams while Warner was the QB and twice tot he superbowl. The horrible oline gave the rams wr's time to get downfield and gave Marshall enough rrom to get over 2,500 1 year and over 2,000 in 2 out of 3. If that's a horrible line I'll take them back whenever possible. Yes, Martz's major problem with his system is it takes along time to develop and he like tot hrow the deep out patterns that makes his QB very open to injury. I don't think this will happen wilt Martz and Warner but it would be great drama if it happened. By the way I've never seen a team with a HORRIBLE oline be in the playoffs 3 straight years and in the superbowl for two of them and also have the best offense the NFL has ever seen.

 

[The Tick]

Wasn't Martz's offense pretty much responsible for ten Kurt Warner concussions?

That and a horrible offensive line...I think this makes a lot of sense providing Warner is willing to play for Martz again and doesn't get signed before FA starts. Martz will want to run his offense, and he has always talked about how hard of an offense it is for quarterbacks, and wasn't even comfortable with Bulger the first couple years.

I don't see any way how he will be able to teach a full new team his offense without some help. Getting his old QB back to at least start the year will give him some help installing his offense, and give him time to look at his younger QB’s who may or may not suck as they slowly learn their way in.

Horrible offensive line? That horrible offensive line got the rams to the playoffs 3 out of 3 years for the rams while Warner was the QB and twice tot he superbowl. The horrible oline gave the rams wr's time to get downfield and gave Marshall enough rrom to get over 2,500 1 year and over 2,000 in 2 out of 3. If that's a horrible line I'll take them back whenever possible. Yes, Martz's major problem with his system is it takes along time to develop and he like tot hrow the deep out patterns that makes his QB very open to injury. I don't think this will happen wilt Martz and Warner but it would be great drama if it happened. By the way I've never seen a team with a HORRIBLE oline be in the playoffs 3 straight years and in the superbowl for two of them and also have the best offense the NFL has ever seen.

Point taken, I'm probably looking at the more recent lines and thinking it was the same when Warner was there.

 

[Bob Magaw]

i don't think warner was getting a lot of concussions during the super bowl runs... or they probably wouldn't have been making super bowl runs... warner did get beat up more in 2002... see the 2003 opener when he had like half a dozen sacks & fumbles & lost his job for good to bulger... the OL was NOT as good AT THAT TIME as it was during super bowl years.

bulger does seem to get rid of the ball better than warner at this point & has better pocket presence, though he has taken a beating as well... bulger's last injury to the shoulder that resulted in him being shut down prematurely was after an INT & hard to blame on system... though all the system-related (deep outs that are slow developing) insults that led up to it could be.

 

[Weiner Dog]

I would have to think Green is stalling for the remote possibility he lands 'Pepper. Warner's 2-8 record last year cannot give Green that "warm, fuzzy" feeling for '06.

The 2-8 record falls on the team as a whole, not just Warner. The team had no offensive line, no running game, and a porous defense at times. Many other starting QBs would have been 2-8 as well..........

Really?? Josh McCown was 3-3 last year behind the same offensive line, no running game, and porous defense (...which, in fact, was #8 overall in total yards allowed).But I agree...a team's record (whether good or bad) cannot be placed on one individual player.

 

[Dancing Bear]

There is no way that Warner would go to Detroit and play with Martz IMHO.

Martz put Warner out to pasture prematurely; there is simply no way that Warner could trust Martz. Green clearly showed that Warner was the man and Arizona will sign him to another year with no question.

 

[Blackjacks]

There is no way that Warner would go to Detroit and play with Martz IMHO.

Martz put Warner out to pasture prematurely; there is simply no way that Warner could trust Martz. Green clearly showed that Warner was the man and Arizona will sign him to another year with no question.

If that's where the money was he'd go. They actually have a very good relationship now. Here in Stl. Martz was interviewed after he got fired and he actually was asked if he still talked to Kurt. He replied that he talked to him about once a month if not more and he would love to work with him again. I don't think this will happen but Kurt knows that Martz made his name what it is now and he would jump at the chance to rejoin him anywhere, especially in Det.

 

[rumblinbumblinstumbler]

I think it is great that Warner is getting some play now and is wanted around the league.

I think he got pushed out a little early with the Rams. He could still have done the job, but, his concussions and fumbling issues along with Bulger being ready lead to an early benching for him.

I thought Coughlin hosed him with the Giants to get Manning his experience in the first year. That team had no business being anywhere near a playoff spot in 2004 and they were 5-4 under Warner and in a wild card slot when Coughlin made the move to Manning after which they promptly went 1-6 the rest of the way. Now, don't get me wrong, this year has proved that that experience was invaluable to Manning. But, Warner got 0 credit for leading the Giants to a winning record.

There are also whispers that the Raiders may be interested in grabbing him for a year or two while they tutor a new QB as well.

I say good for him.